Antonio Pierce has a dirty play waiting for the Eagles

[Who Del]

http://www.nj.com/giants/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1157956720268110.xml&coll=1&thispage=2


It didn't take long for LB Antonio Pierce to start looking ahead to Sunday's game in Philadelphia. That's because he suffered a season-ending ankle injury on what he believes was a questionable hit by the Eagles last Dec. 11, during a 26-23 victory.

Pierce, the Giants' leading tackler at the time, suffered ligament damage and missed the final three regular-season games and the playoff loss to the Carolina Panthers.

"I owe them one," Pierce said. "They took me out. Everybody who was on the field when they hurt me last year has one coming. I feel like it was a dirty play, so I'll have one for them."

What a prick.

[jwebst1]

It seems like AP has had a stick up his butt ever since he left the Skins...

[carter23]

pierce says the dumbest **** all the time

i don't remember him being like that when he was with the skins

[chaos]

money done changed that feller

[Riggo#44]

MAybe this is why Gibbs let him go - he's an a-hole!

[Redskins Diehard]

What were the circumstances of his injury? Was it the same CS that took the cheapshot in the last regular season game? Who is that furry guy that plays on the line?

[paloosa]

The refs will be looking at him very closely next week and so will the Commissioners office. That is just a dumb statement by a dumb*** player. I understand that he is upset but don't make stupid comments like that especially in the media which will draw attention to yourself. Looks like a suspension just waiting to happen.

[Destino]

Speaking of dirty plays - anyone see the two in last nights giant game. The first came after one of the first Colts passing plays. Wide out was down and the Giant player comes over and appear to dig his elbow into the players neck. The Colt got up mad and shoved the guy.

Second was Jacobs in the end zone. After getting in he ripped the defender helmet off with a shove to the face after the play was blown dead. It sparked a shoving match between several players in the end zone.

Maybe Pierce isn't the only Giant looking to play dirty.

[poidog22]

That's pretty shocking, I always thought AP was a pretty stand up guy that played cleanly...I wonder if he would've even thought about making these comments if he was still under the Redskins coaching staff.
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[eagles78]

Good. Now league officials will be able to suspend him when said 'dirty play' occurs. Bring it Pierce.

[carter23]

What were the circumstances of his injury? Was it the same CS that took the cheapshot in the last regular season game? Who is that furry guy that plays on the line?


john runyan

[Mr. S]

pierce says the dumbest **** all the time

i don't remember him being like that when he was with the skins

Champ wasn't the smart mouth the way he is now in Denver when he played for us. Pierce is the same way. Smoot became an idiot too after leaving. I mean, seems like players we draft love to say dumb things once they leave, maybe it's a reason why Gregg Williams didn't want them back in the first place.

I think Pierce will realize he isn't that great soon enough, and beg to return to the Redskins.

[Alabama Man]

I didn't even remember him getting hurt, much less that particular play. But hell, Mike McMahon was starting that time last year, so there isn't much too remember about that game.

The giants like to start trouble any time they play the eagles though, because they think they have a big fierce rivalry. Like that whole bs thing where Barrett Green punched Trotter on the sideline a few years ago.

[rebornempowered]

john runyan

WHAT?

He's never done a dirty play in his life. :paranoid:

[OWUeagleMD]

That's pretty shocking, I always thought AP was a pretty stand up guy that played cleanly...I wonder if he would've even thought about making these comments if he was still under the Redskins coaching staff.
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Probably not. Jerks are relegated to the other 31 NFL teams. The Redskins always have and always will be completely exonerated.

[Monte51Coleman]

Probably not. Jerks are relegated to the other 31 NFL teams. The Redskins always have and always will be completely exonerated.

I'm glad to see you've figured it out, took you long enough.

[poidog22]

Probably not. Jerks are relegated to the other 31 NFL teams. The Redskins always have and always will be completely exonerated.
Well, it does seem that since the Gibbs' staff came back, the bonehead comments by Skins players have been kept to a minimum. Except for LaVar, and we all know how that turned out.
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[redman]

That's pretty shocking, I always thought AP was a pretty stand up guy that played cleanly...I wonder if he would've even thought about making these comments if he was still under the Redskins coaching staff.
:logo:

I agree. I will give AP some benefit of the doubt here in the sense that, whether you agree with him or not, he obviously believes that he was injured on a dirty play last year and is mad about it. If it was another player who ran his mouth incessantly (e.g. Joey Porter), I wouldn't be as prone to sympathy.

[APBT]

http://www.nj.com/giants/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1157956720268110.xml&coll=1&thispage=2



What a prick.

I feel him; I really do. :cheers:

[APBT]

WHAT?

He's never done a dirty play in his life. :paranoid:

Exactly. He did some dirty crap yesterday when he slapped a helmet and didnt get caught. HD tv gives it all away. :D

[cyfar]

With that statement alone, he has just earned his team a few extra penalties. Way to go AP!

[pointyfootball]

With that statement alone, he has just earned his team a few extra penalties. Way to go AP!

Good point. You would think a veteran would know better than to say something like that and be quoted on it. I would think he and his team wouldn't need a reason to get up for a divisional game, but I guess he needs other motivation.

And if it was Runyan, I wouldn't be at all surprised. That's one reason I love him. Defensive players always get to walk that fine line of physicality/dirty play, so I like to see an offensive player (especially a OL or RB) . As long as he's on my team!

[tr1]

Who do the Eagles have to replace Runyun?

[pointyfootball]

Who do the Eagles have to replace Runyun?

I would think Herremans would move from guard to a tackle position (his natural position) or else the rookie Justice.

I give the edge to Runyan though. He's started/played in almost 150 straight games and I'm sure players have been gunnin' for him in the past.

[OWUeagleMD]

Who do the Eagles have to replace Runyun?

Mid-game Herremans would move to tackle and Scott Young would come it at guard. If the injury was long-term, Winston Justice would start at RT and everyone else would stay in their normal positions.

[zoony]

It seems like AP has had a stick up his butt ever since he left the Skins...



You said it.

He went from hard working overachiever to annoying blabbermouth in a matter of days.

...

[moondog]

He's such a cocky ****. For someone that finally got their chance in the NFL and showed what they had, you would think he would be a better leader and not such a ********.

[Excel]

Pierce was on top of a pile and Steven Spach through him off. It wasn't cheap. Just stuff you see in every game. Unfortunately for Pierce his foot was caught underneath the pile. Spach didn't know he was caught.

Spach was a rookie FA whom never survived final cuts this year. Pierce over the last year has become quite the big mouth. Maybe he feels the Giants need extra motivation.

[TheLongshot]

Smoot became an idiot too after leaving.

Nah. Smoot always had a big mouth, even here. Nothing has changed about that.

In the end, the guys with the big mouths tend not to last long here. That includes Coles and Lavar. The closest thing to a big mouth right now is Portis, and he's more or less keeping things under control.

Jason

[CurseReversed]

I think hes trying to send the message that if your going to try and injure someone on purpose, expect a retaliation. If our best player was taken out by a obvious dirty cheapshot intended to injure I would expect some retaliation.

[OWUeagleMD]

Nah. Smoot always had a big mouth, even here. Nothing has changed about that.

In the end, the guys with the big mouths tend not to last long here. That includes Coles and Lavar. The closest thing to a big mouth right now is Portis, and he's more or less keeping things under control.

Jason

I see Portis as more of a goofball than a loudmouth.

[poidog22]

I see Portis as more of a goofball than a loudmouth.
:laugh: That's pretty funny...and true by the way.

[Tom [Giants fan]]

Pierce never actually says that he intends on injuring anyone. What he "owes" them is handing them their first loss which I am sure is clearly on his mind.

[pointyfootball]

From NY Daily News:



http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/story/451966p-380404c.html





"ONE-MAN SHOW: The Giants left their opener very impressed with Peyton Manning (25 for 41, 276 yards), but not so much with the rest of the Colts.

"They've got a great quarterback, one of the all-time greats and he made a lot of big plays for their team," said linebacker Antonio Pierce. "And he's basically going to probably have to carry them for the rest of the season."

[McMetal]

Please someone knock this clown out come Sunday. Every time I turn around he is running his mouth about some other team. What an ahole.

[Chachie]

With that statement alone, he has just earned his team a few extra penalties. Way to go AP!


Exactly. He'll get the "Sean Taylor Treatment" this weekend from refs.

[Chachie]

']Pierce never actually says that he intends on injuring anyone. What he "owes" them is handing them their first loss which I am sure is clearly on his mind.


"I owe them one," Pierce said. "They took me out. Everybody who was on the field when they hurt me last year has one coming. I feel like it was a dirty play, so I'll have one for them."

Re-read the quote, Tom. It's pretty clear what he means.

:whoknows:

[roanoker]

AP wasnt very bright in making those comments in public. Did he think that the refs arent going to be watching?

[praise_gibbs]

Maybe AP bought himself a pair of balls with all his money?

I can't wait until Sellers runs over him. In the meantime Philly, shut the punk ass ***** up! :D

[ciresolstice]

Kind of suprised ..thought Pierce was a bit classier than that.

[jac83]

i would say that on top of the suspension that he could receive from the league if he intentionally injures and eagles player that there would be some pretty heavy legal ramifications as well.

[bubba9497]

We all know that eagles are all Saints, never been any dirty players on their team :halo:

[illone]

What happened to Antonio?

We turn his career around and he becomes a total prick.

[DWinzit]

Kind of suprised ..thought Pierce was a bit classier than that.
He was, then he went to New Jersey! :doh:

[RDSKNfaithfull]

It seems like AP has had a stick up his butt ever since he left the Skins...

AP was a 15yd pealty waiting to happen before Gregg Williams came to Washington. The guy was always getting in peoples face and fighting in training camp etc.

[RDSKNfaithfull]

We all know that eagles are all Saints, never been any dirty players on their team :halo:

Runyan

cough cough

[ksun247]

Glad Pierce is gone. We sure could use his talent, but we don't need anymore crybabies. He needs to get over it and just play football. It's a violent sport. Things happen.

[Rdskn4Lyf21]

Pierce is an *******.

The refs will keep a close eye on him now, and when he does ANYTHING that appears blatant, he will be penalized for it.

What a ****er!

Im glad we got rid of that garbage and I hope when he gets suspended for something "dirty" he has "Mr. Nickles" to take care of him....

[OWUeagleMD]

We all know that eagles are all Saints, never been any dirty players on their team :halo:

It's also very common for our dirty players to advertise their deceitful intentions publicly before a game.

[tr1]

We all know that eagles are all Saints, never been any dirty players on their team :halo:

Well, yeah...except maybe for Runyan...

[Number5]

Why all the talk about Runyan......he may "play to the whistle" but he has never spat in a players face...let alone two! For all the bravado, people seem to forget instantly their own players faults.

[tr1]

Why all the talk about Runyan......he may "play to the whistle" but he has never spat in a players face...let alone two! For all the bravado, people seem to forget instantly their own players faults.

No, I guess chop blocks at the knees isn't as bad as spitting... :doh:

[Number5]

No, I guess chop blocks at the knees isn't as bad as spitting... :doh:

Chop blocks are illegal, but they are part of football meaning that they do happen.

Spitting in someone's face is disrespectful and thuggish. I've only spit in peoples faces on the street after I beat the sh*t outta them over money. It has no place in football.

There is a difference between the two.

[OWUeagleMD]

Chop blocks are illegal, but they are part of football meaning that they do happen.

Spitting in someone's face is disrespectful and thuggish. I've only spit in peoples faces on the street after I beat the sh*t outta them over money. It has no place in football.

There is a difference between the two.

I've never beaten the **** out of anyone for money.

Is it worth the effort?

[tr1]

Chop blocks are illegal, but they are part of football meaning that they do happen.

Spitting in someone's face is disrespectful and thuggish. I've only spit in peoples faces on the street after I beat the sh*t outta them over money. It has no place in football.

There is a difference between the two.

I guess I just have never seen a ball of spit end someone's career...

[OWUeagleMD]

I guess I just have never seen a ball of spit end someone's career...

Runyan has a reputation as a dirty player, but his reputation is not of a chop blocker.

He plays to the whistle, a bit after it sometimes, throws punches, elbows people in the throat when they're on the ground, all that stuff. But he has never been considered a chop-blocking player. Chop blocks are usually a strategy of an entire offensive line, not a result of the uncontrolled rage of one guy. I don't think I can recall a single Runyan chop block, now that you have me thinking.

Do you remember any?

[Number5]

I've never beaten the **** out of anyone for money.

Is it worth the effort?


I was in college and hustling to pay tuition after I lost my track scholarship. Seeing how this started me down a bad path, I'd say looking back....no....it wasn't.

[Number5]

I guess I just have never seen a ball of spit end someone's career...


Please name 2 players Runyan has...

1 - Chop Blocked
2 - Ended their careers

I ask because from what you've typed, proof would be a good thing to add to validate your argument.

[tr1]

Runyan has a reputation as a dirty player, but his reputation is not of a chop blocker.

He plays to the whistle, a bit after it sometimes, throws punches, elbows people in the throat when they're on the ground, all that stuff. But he has never been considered a chop-blocking player. Chop blocks are usually a strategy of an entire offensive line, not a result of the uncontrolled rage of one guy. I don't think I can recall a single Runyan chop block, now that you have me thinking.

Do you remember any?

Here's one where he was called for it...and the penalty was declined...
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/playbyplay/NFL_20030928_PHI@BUF

Shall I look for more?


Also, I still for the life of me can't think of one instance where a spit ball has caused a player to miss a game...

Do you remember any?

[OWUeagleMD]

Here's one where he was called for it...and the penalty was declined...
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/playbyplay/NFL_20030928_PHI@BUF

Shall I look for more?


Also, I still for the life of me can't think of one instance where a spit ball has caused a player to miss a game...

Do you remember any?

Did I ever suggest that it did? Did I ever bring Sean Taylor into the discussion?

[tr1]

Please name 2 players Runyan has...

1 - Chop Blocked
2 - Ended their careers

I ask because from what you've typed, proof would be a good thing to add to validate your argument.

1. See above, and

2. Maybe not yet...

[tr1]

Did I ever suggest that it did? Did I ever bring Sean Taylor into the discussion?

Right...that was N5.

[Number5]

Here's one where he was called for it...and the penalty was declined...
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/playbyplay/NFL_20030928_PHI@BUF

Shall I look for more?


Also, I still for the life of me can't think of one instance where a spit ball has caused a player to miss a game...

Do you remember any?


The conversation is about "dirty" players. While I admit, Runyan has a reputation for it, and it is well deserved....Taylor isn't a saint either. And in cases such as last Monday Night, his antics can be harmful as well as evidenced by the 2 4th Quarter penalties.

[Number5]

1. See above, and

2. Maybe not yet...
Gotcha.....

[tr1]

The conversation is about "dirty" players. While I admit, Runyan has a reputation for it, and it is well deserved....Taylor isn't a saint either. And in cases such as last Monday Night, his antics can be harmful as well as evidenced by the 2 4th Quarter penalties.

And now you've changed the conversation! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

N5, come on, man. You dragged ST into it. Unless ST tackles like RW of the pukes, he isn't a dirty player...you may have an argument that he's a punk, but, no, not as a dirty player.

[Number5]

And now you've changed the conversation! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

N5, come on, man. You dragged ST into it. Unless ST tackles like RW of the pukes, he isn't a dirty player...you may have an argument that he's a punk, but, no, not as a dirty player.


Attacking a WR who is halfway out of bounds with the crown of your helmet, after the ball has been overthrown....

How about intentionally dragging a WR by his facemask down to the ground out of frustration even though you out weigh him by 25 lbs.....

No tr1, ST can be considered a dirty player....

[Number5]

And now you've changed the conversation! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:




Also, I believe the title of this thread refers to "Dirty Plays"...thus, the conversation through out has been about.....


DING!!! Dirty Plays :doh:

[tr1]

Attacking a WR who is halfway out of bounds with the crown of your helmet, after the ball has been overthrown....

How about intentionally dragging a WR by his facemask down to the ground out of frustration even though you out weigh him by 25 lbs.....

No tr1, ST can be considered a dirty player....

You obviously didn't see the game.

The first one was a bad call. The second one should have been 5 yards.

Look at the video of the plays before you write such rubbish.

[tr1]

Also, I believe the title of this thread refers to "Dirty Plays"...thus, the conversation through out has been about.....


DING!!! Dirty Plays :doh:

You equated spitting with dirty play....as I pointed out above, one action is that of a punk, the other, chop blocking, is that of a dirty player.

[OWUeagleMD]

You obviously didn't see the game.

The first one was a bad call. The second one should have been 5 yards.

Look at the video of the plays before you write such rubbish.

The first one was a bad call, I agree.

But the facemask was clearly a fifteen yard penalty. Once a player grabs hold of the facemask he must immediately let go. Taylor not only held on, but twisted the player's head and essentially used his handful of facemask to make the tackle.

[tr1]

The first one was a bad call, I agree.

But the facemask was clearly a fifteen yard penalty. Once a player grabs hold of the facemask he must immediately let go. Taylor not only held on, but twisted the player's head and essentially used his handful of facemask to make the tackle.


He had a handfull of 'ear hole' that he quickly let go of...watch the film.

[OWUeagleMD]

He had a handfull of 'ear hole' that he quickly let go of...watch the film.

I have, a few times. He held onto the top of the face mask, where it meets the helmet, for the entirety of the play.

This is the first I've heard of anyone, Redskins fan/commentator or otherwise, suggesting that Taylor didn't deserve 15 yards.

[tr1]

I have, a few times. He held onto the top of the face mask, where it meets the helmet, for the entirety of the play.

This is the first I've heard of anyone, Redskins fan/commentator or otherwise, suggesting that Taylor didn't deserve 15 yards.


It's not what I saw...but I haven't looked at the play since the game.

[Number5]

You obviously didn't see the game.

The first one was a bad call. The second one should have been 5 yards.

Look at the video of the plays before you write such rubbish.


Please.....I lost 20.00 on that game!

[Who Del]

Sean Taylor must be doing something. He always gets dragged into these discussions.

[Alabama Man]

Your forgetting the 5 yard penalty is for INCIDENTAL face mask. Not when the player tries to do it.

[MondayNightCowboyKilla89]

Champ wasn't the smart mouth the way he is now in Denver when he played for us. Pierce is the same way. Smoot became an idiot too after leaving. I mean, seems like players we draft love to say dumb things once they leave, maybe it's a reason why Gregg Williams didn't want them back in the first place.

I think Pierce will realize he isn't that great soon enough, and beg to return to the Redskins.

I wish he would come back, better than Lemar

[Lurman]

Let's get something straight about Sean Taylor's two penalties.

You cannot make helmet-to-helmet contact (not just helmet-first contact) on a defenseless receiver. A receiver attempting to make a catch is by rule 'defenseless'. 15 yards.

You cannot grasp and pull a facemask, accident or not, on any established ball-carrier. That's not 'incidental'. 15 yards.

[paloosa]

Attacking a WR who is halfway out of bounds with the crown of your helmet, after the ball has been overthrown....

How about intentionally dragging a WR by his facemask down to the ground out of frustration even though you out weigh him by 25 lbs.....

No tr1, ST can be considered a dirty player....

The WR was not halfway out of bounds and also still had a chance at catching the football. He never lead with his helmet but gave him a good hard hit. If hustling and making sure that an opposing player does not catch the ball is illegal then the next time your player from your team does the same thing then don't cry and whine about it. Call him a dirty player. ST maybe a lit late but how do you tell a player to stop his forward momentum. Plus the ball was not anywhere past the receiver. You may want to go back and look at that play again. Plus later in the game a Viking player hit a Redskins player late but no flag was thrown. Even the guys in the booth were asking the same. The Officiating is still horrible, not just in the Redskins game but throughout the NFL. They are inconsistent and very flag happy now. I hope it doesn't cost too many games for the Redskins or any other team. It is sad to have a game decided by a non-participant of the game, namely a referee.

[Rdskn4Lyf21]

Let's get something straight about Sean Taylor's two penalties.

You cannot make helmet-to-helmet contact (not just helmet-first contact) on a defenseless receiver. A receiver attempting to make a catch is by rule 'defenseless'. 15 yards.

You cannot grasp and pull a facemask, accident or not, on any established ball-carrier. That's not 'incidental'. 15 yards.

I just watched it again, and I didn't see a helmet-to-helmet hit on the ST penalty.

And if he did hit him helmet-to-helmet, the receiver WOULD NOT have gotten up.

[sableholic]

apparently he wasnt the only one as Akers had a really cheap shot on one of the Giants coaches. Stupid stupid move.