one of the better monday night games in a long time

[Eagle091]

granted the skins lost, so it wasnt good for them, but all in all, it was a great game to watch. probably the best of week 1. one question though... where was duckett and where was lloyd. randel-el looked good and portis looks to be ok. brunell and saunders need to get more in synch though. also, taylor cost you guys some very bad penalties, but it was a great game to watch. the vikes looked impressive and may be a force in the nfc. time will tell.

[SlinginSammy HOF '63]

not on my end. :(

[skinsfan.uk]

Can't see the Vikes doing anything this year, this was just a shoddy performance. We have a few things to address before next week because at 0-2, there really is something to be concerned about.

[Eagle091]

yeah you are almost in a must win against the boys. 0-2 in the division is bad. it will settle down. the hype from the media about the skins can sometimes go against you. hell, it might be a wake up call.

[Warhead36]

Vikes will be good as long as they can remain close late in ballgames like tonight.

I don't see them winning many games in the 4th if/when they're trailing. We kept them in it with the score and we ****ed up field position too much.

[Ken]

tough loss for the Skins.

They miss Springs who I think would take a miracle for him to be 100% next week.

Not sure what they are going to do about TO, providing Bledsoe has some time.

0-2 and I believe the team is finished for the year. Both teams will be clawing. I am glad we are at home.

[bubba9497]

Dallas OL is not anywhere near the Vikes OL

but the Skins can't give up all those 3rd down plays next week, and must finish drives with TD's not fgs

[Warhead36]

I wouldn't say we're finished.

Lets assume we do lose, and lets assume the Giants can manage a win in Philly(very tough task mind you).

We'd still only be a game behind the division lead.

But yeah, next week's game is as must win as you can get in Week 2. Though I think it's moreso that case for Dallas because of the combustable egos and the fact that they're home, playing their rival that beat them on both extremes last year.

[zoony]

That Vikings OLine was friggin impressive.

They picked up everything GW threw at them. They gave BJ all the time in the world to throw.

GW had no choice but to sit back and play zone. And let BJ pick them apart, one third down throw at a time :doh:

[skins1972]

tough loss for the Skins.

They miss Springs who I think would take a miracle for him to be 100% next week.

Not sure what they are going to do about TO, providing Bledsoe has some time.

0-2 and I believe the team is finished for the year. Both teams will be clawing. I am glad we are at home.


The way our secondary played I would be jumping up and down if I was the pukes... our DL had no rush(what a suprise).... Its early in the season, 0-2 1-1 who knows but I sure cant get my hopes up after tonight!!

[Dirk Diggler]

tough loss for the Skins.

They miss Springs who I think would take a miracle for him to be 100% next week.

Not sure what they are going to do about TO, providing Bledsoe has some time.

0-2 and I believe the team is finished for the year. Both teams will be clawing. I am glad we are at home.

So if Dallas goes 0-2 you will declare them finished?

[Ken]

Dallas OL is not anywhere near the Vikes OL

but the Skins can't give up all those 3rd down plays next week, and must finish drives with TD's not fgs
And the Vikes Skill positions and Defense isn't as good as ours.

[WeownU]

Dallas OL is not anywhere near the Vikes OL

but the Skins can't give up all those 3rd down plays next week, and must finish drives with TD's not fgs


Yeah, but the the Vikes don't have our defense or TO, Glenn, Witten.....

[Ken]

So if Dallas goes 0-2 you will declare them finished?
That's what I said didn't i? It will be extremely difficult to dig out from. Your only hope at that point is that no one runs away with the division.

[zoony]

0-2 isn't a hurdle for either a Gibbs OR Parcells coached team.

Coughlin? Probably. But not these two coaches. I disagree on that.

....

[bubba9497]

And the Vikes Skill positions and Defense isn't as good as ours.


Their Qb is a lot better, the OL & DL are better... and that is what cost us was the DL couldn't get pressure


we moved the ball, just didn't score TD's

[Ken]

0-2 isn't a hurdle for either a Gibbs OR Parcells coached team.

Coughlin? Probably. But not these two coaches. I disagree on that.

....
Maybe not, but i don't want to be the team that tests that theory! :cheers:

[Eagle091]

philly has an easy 5 of their first 6 games to start. could run away with the division early.

[scruffylookin]

I'll try and pretend and picture myself watching this game as an objective viewer.

I think I agree with you Eagle091.

It was a close game.
There was an electricity in the air (mostly early).
There was "star power" in the audience with Cruise, Holmes and Foxx.
But most of all, I thought Kornheiser was very good and entertaining and he brought a different flare to this game.
Contrast the "feel" of the Skins/Vikes game to the ho-hum vibe going on right now with the Chargers/Raiders.

With all that said, too bad the wrong team won tonight. :) :( :cry:

[bubba9497]

Yeah, but the the Vikes don't have our defense or TO, Glenn, Witten.....


The Jags offense isn't that great... and they had no problems with your defense

24 pts, over 300 yards

[Ken]

Their Qb is a lot better, the OL & DL are better... and that is what cost us was the DL couldn't get pressure


we moved the ball, just didn't score TD's
OL is better. DL is debateable. But I will give them it because I'm not thrilled with our rush.

LBs and secondary to us.

We will see.

[bubba9497]

philly has an easy 5 of their first 6 games to start. could run away with the division early.


nah, it's how you finish... ask Dallas last year

McNabb has always looked good against bad teams, we will see how good the eagles really are next week.

[Eagle091]

gotta agree with you bubba. ugh, bad taste in my mouth, lol.

[Ken]

philly has an easy 5 of their first 6 games to start. could run away with the division early.
Sorry....Dallas and NY are better than you. I wouldn't clasify them as "easy".

4 easy in 6 isn't bad though.

[bubba9497]

OL is better. DL is debateable. But I will give them it because I'm not thrilled with our rush.

LBs and secondary to us.

We will see.



You DBs are not that good

[Eagle091]

lol ken, how do you figure they are better than philly?

[Ken]

nah, it's how you finish... ask Dallas last year

McNabb has always looked good against bad teams, we will see how good the eagles really are next week.
Still throwing jabs after losing at home bubba?

:munchout: :hungry:

[Ken]

lol ken, how do you figure they are better than philly?
How do i figure?

Gee, if we started with Houston, we would not be having this conversation.

Seriously, talk to me after you play the Giants this week. Please.... :doh:

[Eagle091]

i'll be here. we can chat.

[Chachie]

tough loss for the Skins.

They miss Springs who I think would take a miracle for him to be 100% next week.

Not sure what they are going to do about TO, providing Bledsoe has some time.

0-2 and I believe the team is finished for the year. Both teams will be clawing. I am glad we are at home.

I was thinking the same thing throughout the game. Owens and Glenn will torch us. Carlos Rogers simply isn't ready for regular season football, it seems and no Springs means no chance. I also am beginning to consider Taylor a liability. His fersonal fouls and conduct penalties negate any positive. I thought he'd mature but he clearly hasn't. At all.

I wouldn't say 0-2 damns a team to no playoffs even though stats would probably prove me being homeristic. I think it happened to New England and they won the Bowl that year. I also think it happened to Philly once and they reached the NFC Championship game. I do know that we have our backs to the wall next week being in Texas Stadium. It's unfortunate for both teams (Dallas, Wash) to be in this spot for week 2 because they both showed they can move the ball and neither team had the defense they were hyped to have. I favor your Cowboys next week and have knots in my gut already.

This one was tough to swallow because we had a winnable(sp?) game despite being low on depth (no Springs, no Prioleau) and our safeties decided to face mask everyone they tackled. Shameful.

For both Washington and Dallas a victory will launch new hope and a loss could prove disasterous.

[Dirk Diggler]

I was thinking the same thing throughout the game. Owens and Glenn will torch us. Carlos Rogers simply isn't ready for regular season football, it seems and no Springs means no chance. I also am beginning to consider Taylor a liability. His fersonal fouls and conduct penalties negate any positive. I thought he'd mature but he clearly hasn't. At all.


So a BS call on a "late hit" and a face mask means Taylor is a liability? :doh:

[Ken]

I was thinking the same thing throughout the game. Owens and Glenn will torch us. Carlos Rogers simply isn't ready for regular season football, it seems and no Springs means no chance. I also am beginning to consider Taylor a liability. His fersonal fouls and conduct penalties negate any positive. I thought he'd mature but he clearly hasn't. At all.

I wouldn't say 0-2 damns a team to no playoffs even though stats would probably prove me being homeristic. I think it happened to New England and they won the Bowl that year. I also think it happened to Philly once and they reached the NFC Championship game. I do know that we have our backs to the wall next week being in Texas Stadium. It's unfortunate for both teams (Dallas, Wash) to be in this spot for week 2 because they both showed they can move the ball and neither team had the defense they were hyped to have. I favor your Cowboys next week and have knots in my gut already.

This one was tough to swallow because we had a winnable(sp?) game despite being low on depth (no Springs, no Prioleau) and our safeties decided to face mask everyone they tackled. Shameful.

For both Washington and Dallas a victory will launch new hope and a loss could prove disasterous.
That Prioleau injury was freaky! That was absurb. That really hurt your secondary depth even more. It was unfortunate.

I agree with most of what you said. I believe Dallas won the super bowl in 93' after an 0-2 start. Not the normt though.

I believe that the Cowboys defense is better than what it showed week 1. This could be my homer viewpoint, but we controlled the game early and then started beating ourselves with dumb penalties. Jags had 2 td drives of 38 and 40 yards.

I expect this weeks game to be hard fought and exciting. Good luck. (but not to much)

[Ken]

So a BS call on a "late hit" and a face mask means Taylor is a liability? :doh:
That was definitely a bs call, but Taylor does seem to do stupid things alot.

[McNabbOwnsFedEx]

I was thinking the same thing throughout the game. Owens and Glenn will torch us. Carlos Rogers simply isn't ready for regular season football, it seems and no Springs means no chance. I also am beginning to consider Taylor a liability. His fersonal fouls and conduct penalties negate any positive. I thought he'd mature but he clearly hasn't. At all.

I wouldn't say 0-2 damns a team to no playoffs even though stats would probably prove me being homeristic. I think it happened to New England and they won the Bowl that year. I also think it happened to Philly once and they reached the NFC Championship game. I do know that we have our backs to the wall next week being in Texas Stadium. It's unfortunate for both teams (Dallas, Wash) to be in this spot for week 2 because they both showed they can move the ball and neither team had the defense they were hyped to have. I favor your Cowboys next week and have knots in my gut already.

This one was tough to swallow because we had a winnable(sp?) game despite being low on depth (no Springs, no Prioleau) and our safeties decided to face mask everyone they tackled. Shameful.

For both Washington and Dallas a victory will launch new hope and a loss could prove disasterous.

Eagles started out 0-2 in '03 with two bad home losses to TB and NE. They finished 12-4

[Eagles_Legendz]

Sorry....Dallas and NY are better than you. I wouldn't clasify them as "easy".

4 easy in 6 isn't bad though.

That's a bold statement Ken.

I wouldn't classify them as easy, but I do think the Eagles are better than Dallas this year. NY I'm not sure about, but I honestly think Philadelphia is a better team than Dallas. I guess we'll find out soon enough...

[Seabee1973]

im not worried what is gibbs record in openers now 7-9?

[Ken]

That's a bold statement Ken.

I wouldn't classify them as easy, but I do think the Eagles are better than Dallas this year. NY I'm not sure about, but I honestly think Philadelphia is a better team than Dallas. I guess we'll find out soon enough...
I don't think it is bold at all.

We are a better team than we were last year, we beat you twice.

I realize you guys are better than last year as well, but hardly a bold staement.

Do you agree that this week is a huge test for you guys?

[tr1]

Well, the way I see it is that NFCE teams really have little to gloat about in the first game. Philly won big, but it was against one of the worst teams in the league.

As for the Skins, Gibbs' teams rarely play well at the beginning of the season. And if it's not a 1:00 Sunday game, I always dread it.

But we're great closers.

[tr1]

Do you agree that this week is a huge test for you guys?

Well, this is an easy statement to make isn't it? Playing a division rival at their place is always a disadvantage to the visitor.

But, we did pull one out last year, remember?

[hkHog]

The Vikings will win the NFC North. They're by far the best team in that division.

[Who Del]

The Vikings will win the NFC North. They're by far the best team in that division.

The Bears might beg to differ with you.

Is this what you guys say to lighten the pain of a loss or something? Come on. You got beat by a team that didn't even win it's division or make the playoffs last year. They simply played a great game. You have to take your hats off to them. I didn't think they'd have a chance in hell. They certainly aren't the best team in their division though.

[hkHog]

The Bears might beg to differ with you.

Is this what you guys say to lighten the pain of a loss or something? Come on. You got beat by a team that didn't even win it's division or make the playoffs last year. They simply played a great game. You have to take your hats off to them. I didn't think they'd have a chance in hell. They certainly aren't the best team in their division though.

In case you didn't realize, the Bears have an abysmal offense.

[Eagles_Legendz]

I don't think it is bold at all.

We are a better team than we were last year, we beat you twice.

I realize you guys are better than last year as well, but hardly a bold staement.

Do you agree that this week is a huge test for you guys?

Sure, I think this week is a big test for the Eagles. I think there is a flawed logic in stating that Dallas was better than Philadelphia last year, and thus they are better this year, but we shall soon see. At this point in time, New York is the team I am most worried about in the division. If Philadelphia can beat them I think it's a sign of very good things to come.

[tr1]

In case you didn't realize, the Bears have an abysmal offense.

Don't discount the Bears. If Grossman produces just a little bit, they'll win the North.

Minny's lines are very strong. WRs are very weak...and the 0-line makes their running game look better than it is.

We should have beat the Vikes...plain and simple.

[WeownU]

I also am beginning to consider Taylor a liability. His fersonal fouls and conduct penalties negate any positive. I thought he'd mature but he clearly hasn't. At all.



I wouldn't go that far Chachie. The facemask was unfortunate, but the other personal foul, I thought was a bad call. This is football, people get hit when they go for the ball.

I thought ST was having a GREAT game up until those 2 calls.

I think his problem, as is RW's problem, is they go for the "knockout punch", too often, instead of playing the ball, or the runner.

I think sportscenter and "jacked up", has more to do with this than anything.

[WeownU]

The Jags offense isn't that great... and they had no problems with your defense

24 pts, over 300 yards

We turned the ball over 3 times, twice deep in our own zone, and we only give up 24 points? I'll take that every time bubba.

[WeownU]

We should have beat the Vikes...plain and simple.

If Troy Williamson didn't come down with a case of the dropsies, Minny could have beaten you by 17.

[ksun247]

In case you didn't realize, the Bears have an abysmal offense.


Can't agree with you on this one. I think the Bears have a decent running game with Thomas Jones. Cedric Benson is still a big question mark (???). Mushin Muhammed is a very nice receiver. The only question is can the qb get the ball to the WR's. Grossman is finally healthy, so just maybe they'll be OK. Their DEFENSE will carry them anyhow. Just my :2cents:

[be5112]

should of, would of, could of, if we did'nt kick three feild goals in the red zone the game would have been totally different

[tr1]

If Troy Williamson didn't come down with a case of the dropsies, Minny could have beaten you by 17.

If Bledsoe hadn't thrown 3 INTs, you would have won. :doh:

Pretty stupid of me to say, eh?

You never fail to make me laugh, WU.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[WeownU]

If Bledsoe hadn't thrown 3 INTs, you would have won. :doh:

Pretty stupid of me to say, eh?

You never fail to make me laugh, WU.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


LOL.

You say that you shoulda won the game, I say it could have been worse if Williamson doesn't get the dropsies, and this is what you come up with????

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Classic.

Here's one for you then.............Oh yeah, well my dad can beat up your dad.

You amuse me tr1. Its like taking candy from a baby. :silly:

[tr1]

LOL.

You say that you shoulda won the game, I say it could have been worse if Williamson doesn't get the dropsies, and this is what you come up with????

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Classic.

Here's one for you then.............Oh yeah, well my dad can beat up your dad.

You amuse me tr1. Its like taking candy from a baby. :silly:

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
You get better and better... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Had we scored every time we were in the red zone, we would have won that game easily...and our D only gave up 16 points.

It'll be tough to win in Dallas, but if

Bledsoe plays like he did last week, we'll kill you.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

You're a funny man.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[WeownU]

Had we scored every time we were in the red zone, we would have won that game easily.




Oh my God, stop it, I'm in stitches over here. HAHAHAHAHAHA :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

How's this one...........

If we score everytime we get the ball, we'll win the superbowl....HAHAHAHA


Classic tr1, classic.

I love your posts. :silly:

[Goaldeje]

Oh my God, stop it, I'm in stitches over here. HAHAHAHAHAHA :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

How's this one...........

If we score everytime we get the ball, we'll win the superbowl....HAHAHAHA


Classic tr1, classic.

I love your posts. :silly:


Do you not get how dumb this makes you look? :doh:

[jbooma]

Can't see the Vikes doing anything this year, this was just a shoddy performance. We have a few things to address before next week because at 0-2, there really is something to be concerned about.

The vikes have so much talent on the lines, on the D etc... they have two good CB's in Smoot and Winfield, have a great Safety in Sharper, their OL and DL are up there with the best in the league. Brad is a very good QB and now they have a RB. Young but very good WR's this team is going to surprise this year.

Remember since Brad took over they were 6-1, and ended up 9-7 with all the issues including the boat they were still respectable and doing this with and idiot of a coach. Do not be surprised if Minny is fighting the Bears for the division.

[Goaldeje]

The vikes have so much talent on the lines, on the D etc... they have two good CB's in Smoot and Winfield, have a great Safety in Sharper, their OL and DL are up there with the best in the league. Brad is a very good QB and now they have a RB. Young but very good WR's this team is going to surprise this year.

Remember since Brad took over they were 6-1, and ended up 9-7 with all the issues including the boat they were still respectable and doing this with and idiot of a coach. Do not be surprised if Minny is fighting the Bears for the division.


I would also add that they get 4 games against the Packers and Lions. They very well may surprise people this year.

[Ken]

In case you didn't realize, the Bears have an abysmal offense.
In case you didn't realize, their defense is perhaps the best in the league.


:cheers: