Just one question: Why is Mark Brunell the QB of this team?

[smartestmaninamerica]

He has Moss and Randel El to throw to and he can't find either of them open - EVER? I think Moss had one catch and Randel none the whole first half?

He severely underthrew 3 WIDE OPEN RECEIVERS for easy first downs.

Why is he playing? Does Gibbs feel sorry for him because it is his birthday?

Does this team even have a deep pass in it's playbook?

Is this the amazing offense we have been waiting for.

And don't even get me started on the Defense. Has Bledsoe even been slightly pressured once?

[ctskinsfan]

This team has plenty of deep plays in the book. He just cant get it to them. This team is heading for some turmoil with disgruntled recievers if they dont make a change. Hes washed up, anyone can see it. Why not the coaches?

[chaz13]

29 yards passing and 1.8 yards per pass at the half. That is disgusting w/ the weapons we have. It's time to start getting Campbell ready to play.

[ctskinsfan]

Id rather have Campbell play and throw a couple of pics instead of throwing it OB every time. Without takin a risk you get nothing

[Skinz#28Rules]

Brunell looks exactly the same as what he did at the end of last season. Now granted we had alot of injuries at that point, but what's his excuse now?

[jmich001]

This is going to go on for game after game after game after game. I can hear it now, "Mark is our guy, we're real proud of him up here"

[UltimateSkins]

Brunell looks washed up, I pray they put in JC next game.

[Lavar5150]

If Campbell isn't ready then Gibbs is more to blame for that than the fact that he can't see in Bruhell what the rest of the world sees - a washed up loser with a rag arm

[ctskinsfan]

I dont know why only the fans realize this?

[Park City Skins]

I don't know. You're the smartest man and all. Figure it out.

[Zen-like Todd]

He has Moss and Randel El to throw to and he can't find either of them open - EVER? I think Moss had one catch and Randel none the whole first half?

He severely underthrew 3 WIDE OPEN RECEIVERS for easy first downs.

Why is he playing? Does Gibbs feel sorry for him because it is his birthday?

Does this team even have a deep pass in it's playbook?

Is this the amazing offense we have been waiting for.

And don't even get me started on the Defense. Has Bledsoe even been slightly pressured once?

If you're the smartest man in america, why are you asking us?

[honeydont]

I threw my socks and underwear at the TV when Brunell overthrew or threw out of bounds again..............this guy is killing us and our defense too. Andre Carter? what a free agent joke. this team is in big trouble. :mad:

[Saqs]

Been saying all along that Portis IS NOT the key to this team.

[ctskinsfan]

Its funny they were saying how he never gets a pass batted down, well... its kinda hard whe you throw a scree or dump it ob.

[Dead Money]

The answer be pressure.... He cannot think because of the percieved pressure. Not as bad on the last play but he's used to it being bad. OUr oline and backs are letting us down by not blocking well.

[Gibbit]

hes even older...avoid the hit, get a backup contract next year

[skinsaddict]

he is super smart

[DCMONEY]

I said from day pne that this management led everyone to believe that the problem was the WR's. Well Al Saunders is here and so called better WR's. Whats the problem with him now. He's still checking down.

[Skinz#28Rules]

This is going to go on for game after game after game after game. I can hear it now, "Mark is our guy, we're real proud of him up here"

Your exactly right. I like Gibbs because of his loyalty to his players but at some point he has to realize that MB is hurting this team more than helping it!

[jaysonx]

Don't make comments like this until the game is over. He could come out in the 2nd half and throw for 150 yards and 3 TD's.

[chaz13]

For being so super smart I love how Brunell runs right into Ware who is being blocked by a running back and gets an easy sack. That play was just stupid.

[argentina_redskins]

Brunell ... I liked u .... up to this season ... you have looked immobile today ... u can't throw it to anybody it is obvious you are not being able to lead this offense.

Please!! Play Campbell ... he can't do worse than Brunell!

We basically gave up our draft future to get this kid. MAKE HIM PLAY!!!

[ctskinsfan]

Yes I agree but cmon take a chance... hey maybe something good will happen

[RonArtest15]

I threw my socks and underwear at the TV when Brunell overthrew or threw out of bounds again

so, you're barefoot AND naked? jk....anyways, I'll reserve any judgement on Mr. Brunell till after the game...if there is no improvement, then I think JC should be at the helm next week...hell, we all saw the lift Rothlisberger gave Pittsburgh when he took over for Tommy Maddox....maybe that is the shot in the arm that we need....

[krsone]

here is the milllion dollar question.

does this guy brunell even realize that we have added two new weapons to make it easier for him this yr? i think he threw once to randle el and lloyd each. i think he threw it to moss twice and rest were to betts and cooley.

it seems like he is still scared or might not have the arm strength to throw it deep seeking short passes.

how many completions does he have? 5? LOL

[UltimateSkins]

Brunell is just painful to watch right now. The Cowboys are giving us tons of opportunities to stay in the game and the longest pass Brunell has managed to complete is 15 yards.

[macnoke03]

havent you heard, he is super-smart and fights his guts out :doh:

[JetSkins]

so the 'skins should put in collins? or campbell? what the hell difference would they do

[NAILBOMB9]

I say it over and over and over and over again....Brunell sucks!!!!! He's pathetic, now why can't Gibbs see that!!??

[RabidFan]

I threw my socks and underwear at the TV when Brunell overthrew or threw out of bounds again even if we lose, that is not an image I want to go to sleep with thanks. :silly: :laugh:

[bricucci]

The problem is as they pointed out tonight, he likes to throw outside the numbers, Al Saunders offensive is run between the numbers. I've been a big Brunnell defender, but I think its time for Cambell.

[GSF]

That was actually like 4 questions.

[ctskinsfan]

This team could be really good with a decent QB. Im gonna go watch the 2nd half and pray for a miracle, but if it turns out the way I think(you know 3 and outs a couple screens a punt......etc) then please JC next week. Enjoy the game yall.

[gex]

gibbs has too much faith in brunell! he never hesitated to bench ramsey! gibbs needs to realize that brunell is not the player he was with jacksonville!!!!!!!!!

[skinsrevival]

I hope everyone is convinced that MB is the problem. I watched McNabb throw and spread the ball around as well as Manning. It seems Brunell can't find anyone open other than Betts. I find it hard to believe that no one is open downfield. Did you see that crappy throw to Cooley?? He really sucks!! I don't care if we come back in this game like we did last year and win... He still sucks...

[DCSKINZ80]

He's playing not to lose and thats not going to work for this team cause our D isn't as reliable as last year.

[jaysonx]

Again, the problem is not Brunell, it is our O line.

[DCMONEY]

I saw Brunell's replacement in Jacksonville torch this same defense with 10 straight completions in a row. It would've been 11 had a Cowbum d-linement not bat the ball down. Leftwich was on fire struttin sown field

[krsone]

win or lose, this guy brunell is done. there is no way saunders offense is this lame and pathetic. its just that brunell takes the short pass routes instead of the long ones because he just cant go deep. the guy is freakin scared and probably has "free mistake plays or i'll get benched" mentality.

like madden said " brunelll has lots of weapons but he needs to get it to them," which he obviously cant do.

[RonBurgundy&Gold]

Mark is definitely a problem, but you guys will just be saying the same awful things about Campbell if we go with him. You really think he'll have no problems reading defenses w/ a shoddy O-line?

[God Help Me, I'm in Texas]

get a new name

[krsone]

Mark is definitely a problem, but you guys will just be saying the same awful things about Campbell if we go with him. You really think he'll have no problems reading defenses w/ a shoddy O-line?
whats wrong with out line tonight? i dont see anything wrong with our o-line? what game are u watching? u talking about those few rushed and hurries? that one sack? was it two?

[js79]

mark is the problem, oline hasnt been horrible, for once admit to the fact he stinks like hell

[jaysonx]

whats wrong with out line tonight? i dont see anything wrong with our o-line? what game are u watching? u talking about those few rushed and hurries? that one sack? was it two?

Pressure has been on all night. Brunell has had hardly any time to pass.

[krsone]

Don't make comments like this until the game is over. He could come out in the 2nd half and throw for 150 yards and 3 TD's.

who cares if he does that in the 2nd half. the man cant do it consistently. seriously dude, wake up

[krsone]

Pressure has been on all night. Brunell has had hardly any time to pass.
we must be watching the wrong game.

[DCMONEY]

whats wrong with out line tonight? i dont see anything wrong with our o-line? what game are u watching? u talking about those few rushed and hurries? that one sack? was it two?

I agree with you. One time Brunell could've bought a little more time, when Duckett blocked the rusher. Brunell instead of tryng to buy more time just let the guy come off the block and take the sack.

[MikeK]

One of the reasons is because the O-line isn't giving him enough time...he always seems rushed...he really hasn't had a chance to stay in the pocket comfortably.

[DCMONEY]

One of the reasons is because the O-line isn't giving him enough time...he always seems rushed...he really hasn't had a chance to stay in the pocket comfortably.

What? The O-line hasn't been great but its not as bad as you're saying either.

[krsone]

I agree with you. One time Brunell could've bought a little more time, when Duckett blocked the rusher. Brunell instead of tryng to buy more time just let the guy come off the block and take the sack.
yeah that one instance when brunell went out wide instead of inside when duckett blocked the rusher pissed me off. that sack was brunell's fault. horrendous

[skinsaddict]

if we had a better qb, the oline wouldnt have to block for as long

[jaysonx]

If Campbell was in right now, I seriously doubt be would be performing much better with this much pressure and coverage. This is the NFL, not the SEC.

[SkinzFan2456]

This team is balls, the defense can't tackle, Mark Brunell sucks @$$, and the playcalling looks like my 5-6 yr old little league team....we're F'ing pathetic and deserve to lose every game until we get our crap together.

[jaysonx]

This team is balls, the defense can't tackle, Mark Brunell sucks @$$, and the playcalling looks like my 5-6 yr old little league team....we're F'ing pathetic and deserve to lose every game until we get our crap together.

Eagles fan?

[krsone]

One of the reasons is because the O-line isn't giving him enough time...he always seems rushed...he really hasn't had a chance to stay in the pocket comfortably.


are u uhhh looking for mark rypien type protection we gave in 1992? LOL

look man, when a QB feels some heat or feels like he is being rushed, Qb shows some poise and makes plays, not what brunell does.

[Dowee]

I do not know what B-nell is going to do. I gave up on him in playoffs against the Seahawks. What we need is an A-Team.

[krsone]

"High Wobbler!" John Madden said.

[DCMONEY]

Triple coverage. Cooley wasn't even open. Smart?

[E-Dog Night]

Well that last pass doesn't help his cause. Ghastly.

[krsone]

nice brunell, throws to cooley that was tightly covered. high wobbler didnt help. gave enough time for williams to come and make the INT. nice job

[SantanaClaus89]

I was a big Brunell supporter but not anymore... he really looks bad. Seriously

[Emdrecent]

that guy stinks!

[krsone]

Triple coverage. Cooley wasn't even open. Smart?


im gonna ask again. Does this guy brunell realize taht we have acquired two new weapons for him?

[SlinginSammy HOF '63]

are u uhhh looking for mark rypien type protection we gave in 1992? LOL

.
You mean 1991. Our offense is looking more like the 1993 team.

[heatman28]

I hate this f**king guy!

[krsone]

to take the heat off of Brunell for a second. whats the deal with the A. carter guy? this freaking guy hasnt done jack s ***! im watching this guy and he is getting schooled by the dallas guard.

[NAILBOMB9]

Eagles fan?No, just a person who can see our ineptness

[36HAMMER]

reminds me of thiesman just before he got his leg broken. he was more concerned about getting hit than throwing passes, and it took a catistrophic injury to get thiesman out of the line up.

[DCMONEY]

nice brunell, throws to cooley that was tightly covered. high wobbler didnt help. gave enough time for williams to come and make the INT. nice job

That about sums it up.

[js79]

its time to let it go, brunell is finished... why cant u blind people see it? do u think he's going to all of a sudden snap out of his funk?

[Emdrecent]

hey you smell that???? Its Mark he stinks!

[macnoke03]

if MB is still the QB of this team next week I am going to lose a lot of respect for this coaching staff

[SkinsTerpsWiz47]

put in jason

[Destino]

I'm on the edge of my seat cheering for my team, but I agree... the only reason this game is close is because Brunell is just flat out terrible. He is absolutely killing this team.

[JStone2126]

whoopee another touchdown! im tired of sitting through this.

[dg28daman]

This season is over if we keep Brunell in. Saunders's offense can't do anything if we don't have someone that can be trusted to pass. It's time to give Campbell a shot already.

[Whiskeypeet]

It seems like there is either nobody open or Mark isn't seeing them. My gut is its the latter more than anything.............

[DCMONEY]

And thats game.

[SlinginSammy HOF '63]

well, now Brunell has to get us two TDs in one quarter. So far we have one offensive TD this year. :doh:

[dmurda]

one of the worst qbs in the league. i hope his legs fall off

[DCMONEY]

Lemar Marshall checking Terry Glenn??

[krsone]

if MB is still the QB of this team next week I am going to lose a lot of respect for this coaching staff


perfect time to put campbell in next week against the texans.

[bigredone]

this is the second game , where we are missing tackles, Kenny wright sucks, Brunell looks pathetic, can't get the ball to cooley.......Dallas scored we are headed for the basement of the NFC division.........This is hard to take!

[TC]

I have many things I could say right now...but I'll stick to the subject at hand.
Can we pay Roy Williams to take Brunell out of the game? Please?
He's freakin terrible. Awful. Miserable. Most of all, disappointing. Sad, but true.

[sag1277]

brusmell sucks i cant stand him

[skinsrevival]

Touchdowns wins games my friends... and Brunell can't sustain a drive long enough for them to score TD's.

[krsone]

u know whats the worst part about this whole thing? cowboys arent that good. matter of fact, they are at best average and we making them look real good. how many drop passed did they have? unreal.

[318 SKIN]

i want Ramsey!

[krsone]

he threw it to betts again! the hell man!

[SantanaClaus89]

This is so dissapointing... all that promise and excitement, and Brunell looks like he did in 2004

[SlinginSammy HOF '63]

I've always been a Brunell backer but 7/18 for 68 yards?!?! Campbell, regardless of how new he is couldn't do any worse.

[SkinzFan2456]

In the words of the great Jim Mora... "our offense sucks, our defense sucks, our special teams suck, the coaches suck, the play calling sucks, we suck, we can't do diddly poo--- we're terrible."

[DCMONEY]

I've always been a Brunell backer but 7/18 for 68 yards?!?! Campbell, regardless of how new he is couldn't do any worse.

:notworthy :applause: :rolleyes:

[Boss_Hogg]

In the words of the great Jim Mora... "our offense sucks, our defense sucks, our special teams suck, the coaches suck, the play calling sucks, we suck, we can't do diddly poo--- we're terrible."

agreed, I see them going 5-11 this year if this kind of effort continues.

[Craig]

Doens't this remind you of 2 years ago when it took Gibbs 9 games to pull Brunell? We wer eway of of playoff contention by then. The skins will go nowhere with Brunell at QB. He has lost it.

[SantanaClaus89]

You think theyll win 5 games playing like this? DAMN ur a homer... LOL

[skinsrevival]

Can someone please break this guys left arm??? PLEASE!! Like another poster said on this board. I'd rather see Campbell throwing picks rather than Brunell throwing the ball away and taking sacks. Especially the sacks that he walks right into.

[sashae]

The team looks disorganized, which is something I'd /never/ expect to say about a Joe Gibbs coached team. Brunell looks absolutely awful.

[krsone]

I've always been a Brunell backer but 7/18 for 68 yards?!?! Campbell, regardless of how new he is couldn't do any worse.


exactly. if brunell fans and homer skins fans cant realize this, it is sad indeed

[dsciambi]

In the words of the great Jim Mora... "our offense sucks, our defense sucks, our special teams suck, the coaches suck, the play calling sucks, we suck, we can't do diddly poo--- we're terrible."

I'm sorry, but that had me bawling!

When you're this bad, you just have to laugh.

[bricucci]

Dimensia has struck, get him out of there. What do you have to lose.

[cyfar]

Ya know. ... I believe that Mark Brunell is done.

[illone]

Moss was WIDE open on that previous play.

WIIIIIDE OPEN.

[COOLhandsCOOLEY]

Ever since last preseason I have been a Brunell supporter, but no longer. I do not know how it happens, but the man has forgotten how to throw the football. I just don't understand what's happend to the playoff team from last year.

[TheBeast36]

Get him off the field. Please dear god. Is there an official petition or something?

[MikeK]

OK...i'm officially sick to my stomach

[Skinz#28Rules]

Yeah, I definitily don't see them coming back to steal this one. They are horrible!!

[payCeSkin]

i've been a Mark Brunell supporter since the beginning, and now i'm officially on the bench him bandwagon. wow

[jambro]

So when is this miracle team ever going to show anything? Brunnell is spazing out in the backfield, panicking at every turn and taking this team down. Especially at Dallas. Why can't we get someone in at QB that can play!!!! Put Campbell in and let him learn under fire. This offense is very offensive. Dallas is not that good. After seeing this game the Redsins and Cowsh_ts aren't even in the same league with the Eagles and Giants. The defense is NOT as good as last year and expecting Brunnell to improve is just pissing in the wind. Collins would be doing a better job than Brunnell. Come on Gibbs, pull the string and quit embarrasing the Redskin fans. This is sickening! Making Dallas look good in front of a national audience. Kick Brunnell in the ass and set him on the damn bench. Happy 36th birthday!!! CHRIST!!!!

[krsone]

Ever since last preseason I have been a Brunell supporter, but no longer. I do not know how it happens, but the man has forgotten how to throw the football. I just don't understand what's happend to the playoff team from last year.


it was all portis and our Defense. the question we should really be asking tonight is "whats with our D that has been under williams for the past two yrs?" not brunell.

[B.A.M.F.]

I've always been a Brunell backer but 7/18 for 68 yards?!?! Campbell, regardless of how new he is couldn't do any worse.

I agree, I always said Gibbs makes the right choises... but you can't win games when you can't throw the ball. I think JC could only do better. (how could he be worse?)

[Sowers]

bench him, theres too many playmakers out there to have 68 yds passing.

[authentic]

i agree, this is really depressing. Our defense have given the offense opportunities and we couldn't capitalize. This is absolutely horrible. I think it time for JC.

[Drabus]

I've always been a supporter of Brunell....

....but I'm done. Roll out Campbell or Collins. The defense is on the field for 3/4 of the game...and there are open receivers that just aren't being thrown to.

I'm done with Brunell. Please make a change.

[RedskinsRoll05]

Again, the problem is not Brunell, it is our O line.

Wake up man, Brunell sucks

[JStone2126]

What ever happened to our gameplan of attacking downfield? it seems like Gibbs/Saunders has managed this game JUST LIKE LAST YEAR. im SICK OF THIS.
I honestly not alot of it is Brunells fault...but Saunders who is calling our plays. We havent gone downfield ONCE.

['Skins_&_'Stons]

bench him, theres too many playmakers out there to have 68 yds passing.

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[authentic]

bench him, theres too many playmakers out there to have 68 yds passing.

yeah, Brunell is playing scared. he never seems confident, and i can't believe that the recievers are always covered. its clear that Moss was open on the last possession. There is so much that the O-line can do when your QB holds on the the ball for 5,6 seconds.

[grampi]

I'm sorry in advance because I know this statement is going to draw a lot of fire, but Mark Brunell is not the QB who gives this team the best chance to win. Joe Gibbs is a football God and a legend, but he is dead wrong by keeping MB as the starter. Jason Campbell, even considering he is still a very young QB, I still think he gives this team a better chance of winning just because of his sheer athletisism. MB can do nothing outside the pocket. The time for the changing of the guard is now.

[JStone2126]

We suck sooooooo bad its not even funny.

[varvar]

Please get this joker out of there!!!!!! Im getting sicker by the minute......Httr...

[authentic]

What ever happened to our gameplan of attacking downfield? it seems like Gibbs/Saunders has managed this game JUST LIKE LAST YEAR. im SICK OF THIS.
I honestly not alot of it is Brunells fault...but Saunders who is calling our plays. We havent gone downfield ONCE.

honestly, last year was WAAAAAy better. I have to admit that it appears that we've taken a step backward. (maybe 2)

[Cooked Crack]

D
I'm sorry in advance because I know this statement is going to draw a lot of fire, but Mark Brunell is not the QB who gives this team the best chance to win. Joe Gibbs is a football God and a legend, but he is dead wrong by keeping MB as the starter. Jason Campbell, even considering he is still a very young QB, I still think he gives this team a better chance of winning just because of his sheer athletisism. MB can do nothing outside the pocket. The time for the changing of the guard is now.
Draw a lot of fire? I think everyone is all up ons on the start Campbell wagon.

[krsone]

i hope campbell goes in right now! dude, why is this freaking guy Brunell still even in the NFL? i forgot who said it but he said " brunell should be lucky that he is starting in the NFL because he probably wont start in any other NFL team!"

[318 SKIN]

I Want Ramsey

[JStone2126]

I must agree....time to get a more athletic QB in......and TIME for AL SAUNDERS to call some plays that recquire our recievers to get downfield other than Cooley. Its sad when Cooley has our longest downfield pass attempt.

[SlinginSammy HOF '63]

Just seeing Campbell going vertical with his passes would be refreshing.

[Skinz#28Rules]

it was all portis and our Defense. the question we should really be asking tonight is "whats with our D that has been under williams for the past two yrs?" not brunell.



If Brunell could move the damn offense down the field and score some points then the defense could afford to be more aggresive.

[authentic]

I'm sorry in advance because I know this statement is going to draw a lot of fire, but Mark Brunell is not the QB who gives this team the best chance to win. Joe Gibbs is a football God and a legend, but he is dead wrong by keeping MB as the starter. Jason Campbell, even considering he is still a very young QB, I still think he gives this team a better chance of winning just because of his sheer athletisism. MB can do nothing outside the pocket. The time for the changing of the guard is now.


nah man, i agree. MB is done. We can not beat teams with hitch passes and screens. That is not our game. We are a running team that runs effectively to se up the pass. Right now the offense can't even bust a grape, this is an absolute embarrassment!! :doh:

[JStone2126]

honestly, last year was WAAAAAy better. I have to admit that it appears that we've taken a step backward. (maybe 2)



Last year was way better because at this time we were sitting 2-0. Gentlemen, and Ladies...the time comes now to switch our Quarterbacks. Coming back in OUR division fro 0-2 is hard enough. We will see what the cozches do.

[REDMAN7]

Tonight was without a doubt one of the worst performances I've ever seen by a Pro QB. Only 64 yards passsing at this point, now in the 4th quater. WR's open all over the field, ALL night....Brunell has hit the end of the road. I pray the coaches wake up and make the switch before the season is lost.

[JStone2126]

and..........whenever he does throw a pass psat 10 yards...it hits a Cowboys players hands.

[krsone]

christ! this guy brunell takes 7 , 8 steps back then throws the ball. kills me watching that. taking those short little 7 or 8 steps just to drop back. horrendous!

[SlinginSammy HOF '63]

My god, it almost looks like Mark throwing a bomb to get the ball to go 10 yards. I've seen powderpuff QBs aith a stronger cannon than this.

[asacks]

It's time to see Jason Campbell. Period.

[Sid]

Like it or not.. Brunell is done. He cost us the game with his weak arm. I say play Campbell now because no team that started 0-2 has reached the playoffs. Or I may be wrong but I know its very little. BENCH BRUNELL! HE IS DONE!!

[DieselPwr44]

Posted this in the game thread, it fits here.......

To the theme of Desperado......

Mark Brunell....why don't you get off the field now..

you've been too afraid to throw now for soo long...

Oh..you're a has-been and you must have some dirt on the coaches...too remain the starting qb...and we'll lose once again.

Don't you throw the ball real deep now...because you know that you're not able... A dump off pass is always your best bet...

It seems to me some fine wideouts have been placed upon your table..you just can't see them...

Mark Brunell...oh man you ain't gettin no younger.. your arm and your instincts are so weak now..

And freedom...now that's just what you need now..to be cut from this team before all us fans go insane....

[krsone]

another pass to betts. whats taht like 8 catches for betts total of 40 yards?

[SlinginSammy HOF '63]

That looked effortless by the DE to sack Brunell.

[JStone2126]

another sack......wow...this is graphic

[DCSKINZ80]

Its time for Jason Campbell. He nees to learn the ropes and we're not winning a Super bowl with Brunell.

[authentic]

Tonight was without a doubt one of the worst performances I've ever seen by a Pro QB. Only 64 yards passsing at this point, now in the 4th quater. WR's open all over the field, ALL night....Brunell has hit the end of the road. I pray the coaches wake up and make the switch before the season is lost.

....to add to that it is not, and i mean NOT the friggin o-line's fault. They are giving him time. But he just can't make plays. I'm sorry you have to call things out for what they are. The defense hasn't been perfect, but they have given the offense to do its business, but the didn't do it. The Defense is clearly tired, what do you expect to be done when you get consecutive 3 and outs. This is just crazy man, oh well.....

[SHANT]

I can't wait to hear what these morons have to say in the post game press conference

[JStone2126]

oooohhh....moss made a good play....

[SlinginSammy HOF '63]

another pass to betts. whats taht like 8 catches for betts total of 40 yards?
Our running backs are piling up the receptions. Reminds me of some run oriented high school team. If he's just going to throw to the running backs we may as well run the straight T offense.

[grampi]

This whole team is a bust. What a disappointment after such a bright, hopeful off-season. I guess our motto is still "there's always next year."

[JStone2126]

man, Betts has like 4789524056240 cathces tonight

[DCMONEY]

Brunell's stats are getting padded and we're not gonna be misled.

[JStone2126]

annndd...a sack

[jambro]

Prayers are all we have if they keep Brunnell in the game. It is time for the fans to rally and let Gibbs know we have to have a change at quarterback. There is too much talent on this team not to have a vertical passing game. I don't want to hear about a new offensive scheme and time to learn. That is what preseason was about and we all saw Brunnell's performance during that miserable span. Wake up and smell the coffee folks. How can this team continue to be so bad with this talent? They need a new face at QB and that face is Jason Campbell. Goodnight and good-bye Brunnell. 0-2 start is too deep of a hole to dig out of in the east. We want CAMPBELL and we want him now!!!!!

[krsone]

damn, i didnt know betts changed his position to WR?

[Skinz#28Rules]

Brunell freaking has the same happy feet that Ramsey had when he was here. Gibbs let him go, why won't he make the change with mark.

[JStone2126]

Welll....its time for me to hit the sack, work in the morning. This will be another crappy work week.

[OaktonSkins/BushFan]

Um, I have a follow up question. Why is Jon Jansen still on this team? He sucks. And as much as you blame MB - and I do to an extent - equal blame must go to Jansen. Jansen is nothing short of a bum and a loser. Frankly, he shouldn't be worried about other NFL players and what they are taking. He should worry about his own game...and probably should be taking some steroids himself.

[JStone2126]

Another Sack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Redskins4ever]

Mark Brunell is the QB for the Redskins because he isn't prone to make mistakes and he has the experience. Plus he's Joe Gibb's handpicked QB. Gibbbs is not going to replace Brunell with Campbell or Collins probably at no point during the season.

[JStone2126]

Um, I have a follow up question. Why is Jon Jansen still on this team? He sucks. And as much as you blame MB - and I do to an extent - equal blame must go to Jansen. Jansen is nothing short of a bum and a loser. Frankly, he shouldn't be worried about other NFL players and what they are taking. He should worry about his own game...and probably should be taking some steroids himself.


Yeah..I was getting ready to say something about him.....so much for our bookend tackles.

[authentic]

Mark Brunell is the QB for the Redskins because he isn't prone to make mistakes and he has the experience. Plus he's Joe Gibb's handpicked QB. Gibbbs is not going to replace Brunell with Campbell or Collins probably at no point during the season.

in other words we are screwed!!!

[dsciambi]

Next week at Houston, I feel like this offense is really going to start clicking. :laugh: :rolleyes:

[brob2k1]

can someone please explain to me why we went for it on 4th and 7 when you need three scores? you kick the FG and then go onsides... granted there is no chance we come back even after the FG but come on now

[krsone]

Mark Brunell is the QB for the Redskins because he isn't prone to make mistakes and he has the experience. Plus he's Joe Gibb's handpicked QB. Gibbbs is not going to replace Brunell with Campbell or Collins probably at no point during the season.

didnt gibbs hand pick campbell?

[Sowers]

He's prone to plenty of mistakes, without the benefits of taking chances.

[PotomacSkinsFan]

ive been a brunell supporter, but I think I'm done with that. We need something else back there.

[authentic]

i apologize, for saying that the Oline is not to blame. They have been getting manhandled since the preseason.

[UltimateSkins]

We will never be good with him as our starting QB.

[krsone]

He's prone to plenty of mistakes, without the benefits of taking chances.


best post so far!

[TC024]

Say what you want Campbell should have been the man last year, then this year we would have a second year starter with the learning curve most of the way over. Brunell was a good qb and could teach Campbell alot of the little things that qbs need to know. MB is not the future. Everyone thought the Steelers were done when they had to start a rookie. JC might throw some picks but i bet they would atleast be a little more down field than bets in the flat. Plus Campbell could atleast scramble out of some of those sacks. :dallasuck

[wvuwhat]

Ok, I've held my tongue on this for long enough. Brunell, if he stays in as QB, WILL be the death of this team. All the players listed...Cooley, Randle El, Moss, etc...they are open and he can not hit them. I could and ex highschool teammate and he would make better attempts. He throws and unpressured "duck" to the endzone to Cooley, who he hasn't even looked at all year on the field, gives up an easy pic. I know you all may say it's one mistake...well it's his fault we can't allow those mistakes. Yes, he is a leader, but he doesn't match this offense. I feel as if they brought in Saunders to make this team better, but it's turning out I'm thinking that they brought him in, because we are WEAK in our QB position. Please...Football Gods...I beg of you to give Joe Gibbs a dream tonight to open his eyes to the fact that Brunell is HORRIBLE. I'm using very "nice" words about this and I've been a fan since I could stand on my own two feet. Please, just put Cambell in....

[jambro]

Just wait. Snyder will be putting on the heat to get either Campbell or Collins in next week. Brunnell will be replaced after this sickening performance. He has had time, but is afraid of getting hit. Dallas is mediocre at best and we are making them look decent. As I stated in an earlier post, neither one of these teams is in the same league with the Eagles or Giants. It will be pleasing to see Dallas miss the playoffs again this year. That is the only good thing I can see unless Brunell is replaced.

[SEANTAYLORISDAMAN]

I agree. Brunell doesnt have it. Give it to Campbell.

[skinshog]

ok, I was patient, I gave the benefit of the doubt. But now, there is no doubt. The Brunell era needs to end now. We have too good of a team to let him ruin it. Gibbs II cannot be ruined by this guy. How much worse would it be with Campbell?

[SkinzFan2456]

We couldnt do diddly-poo offensively. We couldnt get a first down. We couldnt run the ball. We didnt try to run the ball. We couldnt complete a pass. We sucked. It was a bull**** performance. Im totally embarrassed and totally ashamed. We got our ass kicked. It sucked. It stunk. They just blocked better, were tougher, more physical, coached better, did everything better. We sucked. I don't care who you play, whether its a high school team, a junior college team, a college team, much less an NFL team when you turn the ball over you aint gonna beat anybody. That was a disgraceful performance. We gave it away. We gave them the frigging game. In my opinion that sucked. Holy crap. I dont know who the hell we think we are when we do something like that. I mean its absolutely pitiful to play like that. Horrible. Just horrible. Playoffs? Dont talk about playoffs. Are you kidding me? Playoffs? I just hope we can win another game

[turbrn00]

Say what you want Campbell should have been the man last year, then this year we would have a second year starter with the learning curve most of the way over. Brunell was a good qb and could teach Campbell alot of the little things that qbs need to know. MB is not the future. Everyone thought the Steelers were done when they had to start a rookie. JC might throw some picks but i bet they would atleast be a little more down field than than bets in the flat. Plus Campbell could atleast scramble out of some of those sacks.

THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN:

2004: Ramsey should have been the starter with Brunell as the backup

2005: Ramsey 1, Brunell 2, Campbell 3

2006: Campbell 1, ? 2, ?? 3
--Brunell in a retirement home

[Emdrecent]

you guys feel that...that is the feeling of a long season. Just play madden, if you want to see the Skins get some W's

[AlmightySkins!]

Total TEAM break down...
Penalties
Awful QB Play (26.2 passer rating)
Awful O line Play
No RUN game
No PASS GAME grr
D Line - No pressure
Corners committing penalties and giving up the big play
Only good thing was Marcus Washington and Sean Taylor hit on T.O.

HEY but T.O. didn't get in the end zone
This sucks.

[zoony]

I have always been a Brunell supporter. Even his first year hear, I supported Gibbs' decision to stick with him.

Count me officially off the bandwagon. I've seen enough. Time to get the young guy in, see what our future is like. Is Campbell the real deal? I don't want to wait another year to answer that question.

Guys have been streaking thru the Dallas secondary all night. Brunell has been staring down the wrong receiver every time. When he does happen to see the right guy, he throws the ball short. Or he hesitates and takes a sack.


But thank you, Mark Brunell, for taking us to the playoffs last year. You had a helluva season last year, and I will always be appreciative for that, and a Mark Brunell fan. :cheers:

[Me luv skins long time]

I thought it was just me thinking that....I've completely lost faith in mark brunell:doh: :mad: :(

[Tulane Skins Fan]

brunell please die

[RED06]

I totally agree, Mark Brunell is a bum. If Todd Collins knows this GREAT HIGH POWERED OFFENSE that I have not seen yet, then let him run it and make Jason Cambell 2nd and Mark Brunell 3rd. Mark Brunell looks like he just doesn't have the arm or the awareness to get the ball to all of those wasted weapons we have. It is very frustrating watching them play and the play calling is totally amazing to me at this point.


I think the offense was better last year with Joe Gibbs calling the plays :applause: . I hope they make a fast decision and rest Brunell he can't move the offense missing open receivers and coming up short on passes.

[dinzelwashington]

brunell is just too conservative.. yes he doesnt ever throw much interceptionsin a game.. but if we take a look at brady, peyton mcnabb, the good qbs they throw 3-4 int once in a while.. they also have a great offense. the biggest risk is not taking one!..brunell is a chicken arm.. and when he takes the chances he lobs the ball up so high the safties can get there and get ints.. my goodness.. this is getting so annoying the way brunell throws the ball and how he tries to scramble and gets sack.. get campbell in already.. it would be a waste of a 1st rounder.

[Crakaplz]

Guys how do you not know why Mark Brunell is the starting Qb. Hes sick, literally sick. Hes so dirty that he can throw passes out of bounds. Hes really accurate, he sometimes say hmm should i throw the ball out of bounds or should i run into a defense tackle. This guy is so accurate he can throw to the same defense back twice than a wide open santana moss down the field. I mean he has so many options, he has the out of bounds to throw to, or the defense backs to throw to or he can just run into a linebacker and get sacked or chuck a fumble. He knows how to get the team started. That is for the other team. He has done things that no other qb has done. And that is too suck so bad but to still be the starting qb for a professional football team and get overpaid and trick all the staff of the redskins to believe that he can be successfull. My old highschool qb has a better arm than his chicken noodle arm.

[smartestmaninamerica]

Ok, I don't want to start a fight with this comment, but it needs to be asked.

Both Gibbs and Brunell are very strong Christians. Is it possible, just maybe that Gibbs stays with Brunell longer than he should due in part to this?

I'm not sayin this is it, but the thought has occured to me.

[turbrn00]

I have always been a Brunell supporter. Even his first year hear, I supported Gibbs' decision to stick with him.

Count me officially off the bandwagon. I've seen enough. Time to get the young guy in, see what our future is like. Is Campbell the real deal? I don't want to wait another year to answer that question.

Guys have been streaking thru the Dallas secondary all night. Brunell has been staring down the wrong receiver every time. When he does happen to see the right guy, he throws the ball short. Or he hesitates and takes a sack.


But thank you, Mark Brunell, for taking us to the playoffs last year. You had a helluva season last year, and I will always be appreciative for that, and a Mark Brunell fan. :cheers:



Brunell did not take us to Playoffs, Portis did!!

[COOLhandsCOOLEY]

brunell please die

ignorant ass comment. Please eat a turd burger and sit on pole. I am not happy with brunell either, but its just a game and that is about as ignorant as it gets.

[NorthFlaCane]

I don't get it

less than 2 minutes to play, no hope to win, why not at least let campbell see the field?

[318 SKIN]

Brunell freaking has the same happy feet that Ramsey had when he was here. Gibbs let him go, why won't he make the change with mark.

Because Ramsey was young and had a cannon for an arm! MB is old, can't throw, but he fights his guts out!

[authentic]

what the hell is going to say this time?

-"we fought our brains out"
-"Brunell is super smart"
-"Hall made his field goals"

yada yada yada...

[Cherokee]

I have never seen more confusion on offense than today. I have some knowledge of Saunders play calling, and the use of the screen. I imagined that Sellers and Cooley would be placed as a safety valve.
As I understtand it, the Oline is to block, release, and form the screen. All timed with the QB short passing to the likes of Betts or Cartwright. This group does not get it. John madden and Al Michaels asked the question, "Do they have the guys to play this system"? I think not.

[krsone]

all that annoying " its only the pre-season dude, its only the pre-season!"

man, get the fook outta here!

[81tothehall]

MY GOD!!!!! I would rather have Kyle Boller, maybe we can send the ravens a 1st rd. pick for him, oh yeah we don't have one to give b/c we have T.J. #$%^in' Duckett.

[krsone]

how appropriate to end that way. brunell taking 7 steps back with those happy feet, holding the ball and getting sacked. Die dude!

[authentic]

Damn it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the final play a mudda friggin sack!!!!!!!!!!!1

[NorthFlaCane]

well it was a tough loss, but at least we got to see campbell take the field tonight, he's the hope for the future

/oh wait

[UltimateSkins]

Another sack, this is just pathetic. Brunell holds onto the ball for wayyyyyyyyyy too long and when he finally throws a pass its a 2 yard dink or a 10 yarder at the WR's feet.

[SkinsFanAnt]

This sucks. This is horrible. I have seen 3 HUGE problems tonight....and its the same thing that happened with the Vikings.

#1. Brunnell. He's had it. Get rid of him. I don't care how good he might be with Portis on the field. Brad Johnson made him look old...WTH. We will not go anywhere in any kind of playoffs with him. He can't convert 3rd downs to keep our D off the field. He can't move. He can't stay cool. He's simply pulling a paycheck which should make him a backup at best. Which brings us too:

#2. The coaching. What the hell are we running for when we have 4 prime time receivers. Cooley, Moss, Lloyd, and Randel El. Yeah, we don't have Portis, but this offense sucks PERIOD. What is wrong with Al Saunders. Did he get Warren Sapp kind of money that he thinks he can take a back seat? Or is it that he really only knows what he's doing if he has the players he has had for the last 5 years? Or is it that he doesn't know what he's doing period and that he was just in a good situation in KC. I pick the last one. His play calling sucks. His plays suck. And worst of all, we put Brunnell to suck out there again. That is suck decision making.

#3. Penalties. Penalties. Penalties. Penalties. Penalties. Penalties. This is both the players and coaches fault.

Man this sucks. I hate it even thinking that a playoff team last year will now be considered at the power rankings close to the Browns and Packers.

[krsone]

brian mitchel telling it like it is. he said " get rid of brunell. man is old, he looks cripppled.... he made passes he cant get to recievers....Brian is pissed and mad!"

hell yeah!

[rcgamer]

He has Moss and Randel El to throw to and he can't find either of them open - EVER? I think Moss had one catch and Randel none the whole first half?

He severely underthrew 3 WIDE OPEN RECEIVERS for easy first downs.

Why is he playing? Does Gibbs feel sorry for him because it is his birthday?

Does this team even have a deep pass in it's playbook?

Is this the amazing offense we have been waiting for.

And don't even get me started on the Defense. Has Bledsoe even been slightly pressured once?

i said it after last week , and your right . brunell just isnt running this offense the way a good quarterback can. simply put , he looks like a backup QB who is just trying to not make many mistakes. he has had some pressure on him but ive seen way to many plays where the line is picking up blitz's and he just seems to panic like he just wants the ball away from him. either campbell or collins should be starting. i would prefer campbell, i mean if you are trying to build an offense why not go with the young QB and let him grow with it. if they dont change brunell everyone will start to question the whole offensive scheme and it shouldnt come to that because of loyalty to one player who is not getting the job done. believe me, this in no way shape or form is al saunders offenses fault.

[Blackest Eyes]

lol, i think i would rather have favre than brunell at this point. at least favre gets lucky.

[chesapeakehog]

We need to start cambell next game!

[krsone]

ignorant ass comment. Please eat a turd burger and sit on pole. I am not happy with brunell either, but its just a game and that is about as ignorant as it gets.

there always has to be that one person taking everything literally. yeah, im sure he wants brunell to die!. LOL

whats this world coming to!

[gobigred]

I want to say this Burnell is done. I think he looks a lot like he did his first year here. you know sometimes when you know you are the man and don't have the pressure behind you like you did when Ramsey was here you loose focus. I think the coaches need to revamp the QB spot or we will not even make the playoffs less on win the division. I will tell you this too our offensive line did not look as young as they are either, they looked like a bunch of old men who could not protect anybody. I feel the offense is loosing confidence in their QB. If things don't change Joe is going to kill everything he bragged on in the offseason such as attendance at OTA'S. In closing in reference to Andre Carter. Jullian Peterson made him look so good and that is who we should have went after.

[Yusuf06]

I expected some growing pains instituting the new offense. However, this is just atrocious. If Brunell is going to suck this badly, whether due to age or just not understanding the offense, I'd rather we just started Campbell and let him get some reps. At least he's got a chance of actually getting better.

[mammy487]

message to Mark Brunell: Dear Mark,
After failing numerous times to complete a pass to wide open recievers and evade the pressure, we die hard Redskins fans would like to ask you to hang up your gear and retire from the NFL. For one, the skins owe you a pretty chunk of change that you could help them save by retiring and two, your days are over and just SUCK to high heaven anymore. We would like to thank you for your cooperation and you will recieve your check in the mail at a later time!

[Hitman21]

that game was painful to watch....brunell you dissapointed me. greatly.

[SlinginSammy HOF '63]

Mark Brunell is the QB for the Redskins because he isn't prone to make mistakes and he has the experience. .
unfortunately I saw enough mistakes tonight to make him no more secure than a 2nd year player. Like another poster said. No risk/no reward. A person won't become a millionaire with Walmart stock in 2006.

[CHUBAKAH]

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[Lil Kenzo]

I have supported Brunell through thinck and thin. Even though I think that some of tonight's performance can be blamed on the o-line, Brunell looks terrible. There is nothing wrong with our receivers, they were open tonight. Brunell just did not find them.

[Rooblakas]

We want Campbell.

[SlinginSammy HOF '63]

Damn it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the final play a mudda friggin sack!!!!!!!!!!!1
what's sad is Brunell stood there and cocked his arm 2-3 times. For god sakes the game is over Mark. It was the last play. No time on the clock. Just force it in there. If it's intercepted the only thing that suffers is your fantasy owners.

[RedskinInExile]

Now HERE are the Redskins I remember. A good old fashioned qb controversy and a team struggling early. Brunell isn't all that bad. There were tons of problems out on the field tonight. Some of them were Brunell's. He had a hell of a time evading the rush and any time there was any pressure, he'd throw it away. But a lot of the blame belongs with the Oline too. I doubt Campbell or Collins could have done better.

And I don't know why we threw more to Betts than any of the other wideouts. Was it play calling, or just tight pass defense? Either way, I'm supremely disapointed in the offensive play calling.

Has Saunders really taken over the play calling this year? Not saying its a bad thing, but this looks an awful lot like a game called by Gibbs-- short passes, runs up the gut, 5 yard passes into the flats.

Tomorrow is gonna suck. God, I hate Dallas

[authentic]

brian mitchel telling it like it is. he said " get rid of brunell. man is old, he looks cripppled.... he made passes he cant get to recievers....Brian is pissed and mad!"

hell yeah!

one of a few times i've agreed with both B Mitch and Czabe, 100%... opps i'm about to puke.

[Jordash]

No good reason. He's awful.

[Omnishank]

Brunell is done,he was a good QB,still is perhaps,but not here,he is constantly looking at the pressure instead of downfield,and as was stated earlier...i would rather had campbell making risky passes going downfield than seeing brunell dancing around then throwing it out of bounds.Skins have big play receivers who can go up an get the ball,but brunell just medusa stares at one receiver (mostly a checkdown fb/rb) than throws it away stoning the play,you can say say its the o-line not giving him time,which is partially true,but in the end givin time,if you watch brunell alot,he stil does alot of the "play it safe,stare at one,nothings there..throw it out" routine.Joe gibbs has been reduced to a decision maker,the decision is obvious,get the future in and live with it,we cant expect portis to carry the team on his shoulders for another 14 games!!!

[thompsonbrood]

On a night when the O line is have some trouble, we need a QB that can move out of the pocket and make some plays with his feet, and when moving out of the pocket, the QB needs to move faster than a 90 year old with a walker. We need some younger legs and a younger arm in there..this offense will never take flight without a down field threat....please make a change at QB... :dallasuck

[authentic]

Brunell is done,he was a good QB,still is perhaps,but not here,he is constantly looking at the pressure instead of downfield,and as was stated earlier...i would rather had campbell making risky passes going downfield than seeing brunell dancing around then throwing it out of bounds.Skins have big play receivers who can go up an get the ball,but brunell jus medusa stres at on receiver (mostly a checkdown fb/rb) than throws it away,you can say say its the o-line not giving him time,which is partially true,but in the end givin time,if you watch brunell alot,he stil does alot of the "play it safe,stare at one,nothings there..throw it out" routine.Joe gibbs has been reduced to a decision maker,the decision is obvious,get the future in and live with it,we cant expect portis to carry the team on his shoulders for another 14 games!!!

nah man, his career is over.... last year was cool and all, but 12 o'clock has hit and cinderella has been exposed.

[rcgamer]

what's sad is Brunell stood there and cocked his arm 2-3 times. For god sakes the game is over Mark. It was the last play. No time on the clock. Just force it in there. If it's intercepted the only thing that suffers is your fantasy owners.
several times throughout the game i noticed he was loading up to throw deep then just kept double clutching and ending up throwing to running backs . the one time i saw him throw mediocre deep to cooley he threw a wobbling duck that gave cooley no chance to even try to make a play on it.

[FranklinNoble]

I'd love to see Brunell get benched. The offense is not moving. If it's not the QB, it's the coaching staff at this point. We have too much talent everywhere else to be playing this poorly.

[RedskinInExile]

I am curious, though: why didn't we throw deep at all? I know we wanted to. Was Brunell just being overly cautious and checked out of any deep balls, was the defense sooo good that there were no open WRs, or did Saunders 700 page playbook baffle the offense again. I mean, did Saunders not see the tape of last year's game at Dallas?

[MasterC1974]

i just love on 3rd down when he throws the ball 3 yards and we need 5.
c

[krsone]

Now HERE are the Redskins I remember. A good old fashioned qb controversy and a team struggling early. Brunell isn't all that bad. There were tons of problems out on the field tonight. Some of them were Brunell's. He had a hell of a time evading the rush and any time there was any pressure, he'd throw it away. But a lot of the blame belongs with the Oline too. I doubt Campbell or Collins could have done better. are u on crack dude?


And I don't know why we threw more to Betts than any of the other wideouts. Was it play calling, or just tight pass defense? Either way, I'm supremely disapointed in the offensive play calling.

are u on crack dude? u think throwing to betts was the only option on those plays? do u know how many options single pass plays have? brunell took those short passes to betts instead of looking at other options which were deep routes. the man has no arm. he cant throw far and he knows it.


Has Saunders really taken over the play calling this year? Not saying its a bad thing, but this looks an awful lot like a game called by Gibbs-- short passes, runs up the gut, 5 yard passes into the flats.

u must be on crack

Tomorrow is gonna suck. God, I hate Dallas[/QUOTE]

[DCdemolition]

i hate brunell.

I'd rather go 2 - 14 with Campbell getting game experience than go 7-9 or 8-8 with watching such poor, uninteresting offensive football from the Redskins. Watching Brunell is no fun. We pour our hearts and souls into the skins, at least show passion out there. if the other team makes better plays, fine, but come on. brunell is aweful.

[a_good_brotha]

all that annoying " its only the pre-season dude, its only the pre-season!"

man, get the fook outta here!

I confess. I was one that said "it's only preseason." I'm officially done with that argument. Brunell is not good. I don't think the O-line was poor. They weren't great either. There were times when Brunell should have recognized the pocket breaking down and scrambled to buy more time.

Sometimes I wonder what these coaches are thinking. For example, why aren't there any deep pass attempts? You can't tell me that the receivers aren't getting open. I don't think that Newman, Glenn, and whoever is Dallas' other CB can keep up with Moss, Lloyd and Randle-El one on one. Somebody will get open. Our WR's are too fast.

I think this coaching staff need to also get there act together and call better plays. I saw Sellers get 2 receptions; both for first downs. Why didn't they use him more often?

[rcgamer]

I am curious, though: why didn't we throw deep at all? I know we wanted to. Was Brunell just being overly cautious and checked out of any deep balls, was the defense sooo good that there were no open WRs, or did Saunders 700 page playbook baffle the offense again. I mean, did Saunders not see the tape of last year's game at Dallas?

even madden could see the problem, he didnt want to say it i dont think . but by the end of the game he flat out said "its the quarterback" when al michaels was asking him what he thought the real problem was. i said it last week and this week. this is not al saunders offense the way brunell is running it. it just isnt anywhere close to it.

[In Flames]

This is going to go on for game after game after game after game. I can hear it now, "Mark is our guy, we're real proud of him up here"

unfortunatley, you are 100% right with this statement. o-line or not, he just doesnt possess the talent to get the moss, lloyd, el, and the rest of our weapons the damn ball. gibbs needs to swallow his pride, and let campbell (or at least collins) give it a shot, from what i see, there can be no harm.

[FlaSk1nsfan]

i hate brunell.

I'd rather go 2 - 14 with Campbell getting game experience than go 7-9 or 8-8 with watching such poor, uninteresting offensive football from the Redskins. Watching Brunell is no fun. We pour our hearts and souls into the skins, at least show passion out there. if the other team makes better plays, fine, but come on. brunell is aweful.

i agree 100%

[NattyLight]

What I hate most about this whole ordeal is throughout preseason, Brunell exuded this whole "you don't know what we have comin'" type smile. Too bad this confidence hasn't been exhibited through week 2.

After his completions (however in consequential they may be) he looks relieved, not confident. I always knew this, but let it slide because of our success last year, but now I think it's time for a change.

I don't think a change is in the cards for two reasons: (a) Gibbs thinks Houston will be a staging ground for a Bunell Reemergence and (b) Gibbs thinks Brunell is supersmart. F-that. If Brunell was supersmart he could make quick decisions, instead of no decisions.

I'm putting the future of this season on two things, one of which is yanking Brunell...the other is for Gibbs to stop being such a pansy.

Yeah, that's right, I said it.

*Officially deflated and confrontational*

[krsone]

can u believe this freaking guy Brunell?

He gave a smile again after the last question. dude, what the hell are u smiling for u freaking bum u!

he also said " he couldve played better..!"



nah really? tell us something we dont know. U couldve?

If i was in your shoe, i would said " i had to play better. i sucked. i have to play better than what i did."

dude get this guy out of here now.


His post interviews make me sick

he said " look forward and get ready for next game....."

[Aston]

Our running backs are piling up the receptions. Reminds me of some run oriented high school team. If he's just going to throw to the running backs we may as well run the straight T offense.


I was thinking the same thing in the first half, lol! We might as well run jumbo all the way down the field.

[SlinginSammy HOF '63]

I think we're getting great use out of the clipboard holder we drafted in the first round last year. Is that a position?

[slappy434]

I aint reading this whole thing....I'm sure others have said it.

Start with the O-line...then ***** about brunell

[conkev12]

I aint reading this whole thing....I'm sure others have said it.

Start with the O-line...then ***** about brunell

...or he could hasten his release. If you hold on to the ball for ten fricken seconds, you're going to get sacked, PERIOD. :rolleyes:

[pigskinprophet]

Write off the multi-million dollar contract you gave Brunell....let Jason develope this year....win the Super Bowl next year. I think we would all enjoy watching this kid with a year under his belt. There is NO WAY we can win a super bowl with a first year offense anyway.

[Betterman]

Write off the multi-million dollar contract you gave Brunell....let Jason develope this year....win the Super Bowl next year. I think we would all enjoy watching this kid with a year under his belt. There is NO WAY we can win a super bowl with a first year offense anyway.

+1. campbell can do nothing but IMPROVE our team this year and build on next year. Get on with it already!:point2sky

[SlinginSammy HOF '63]

That's the bold step Cincy did with Palmer. After the great year Kitna had they went with Palmer the next season for one year of growing pains...but look what has come from that. Cincy has developed into a very, very salty team. <---- and I thought I'd never see the day that I'd say that.

[BossMayne80]

I'ma start out by saying that Im a diehard Redskins fan through thick and thin,but I have to admit that Mark Brunell scared the hell outta me tonight,and i'm not goin as far as saying i'm psychic but I can tell that Brunell is not goin to get us far this year.Before I get flamed I wanna say that last year when we had our losses and losing streak, I knew we would pull out of it and make it far and we did because at that time Brunell looked good,but I can't say that this year.Don't get me wrong I know it's only our 2nd game and we have a new off coordinator but you can't deny Marks horrible play,he never looked comfortable,even when he had time to throw he made bad passes.Just like I can tell by the first qrt of a game which team will win lose(I had a gut feeling that NY-Philly game was'nt over by a longshot!!),I can tell Brunell is not the man to continue to start,and what scares me the most is that our key players Santana,Lloyd,Randle El,Portis to name a few, might start to get discouraged if things don't change and want to move on too another team(i'm hoping they have more character than that but still....)..whether we go 0-16 or 14-2 i'ma still back my team(i'll never be a fairweather fan) but I'm just worried about our qb situation...And if Mark(and sometime the O-Line) somehow gets his act together and takes us on a decent ride then everyone reading this post remember my name because i'll officially apologize for having no faith in Brunell,but I highly doubt he will impress this year... just my:2cents: ...
:dallasuck

[skinthemboys]

another brunell thread.... Youre eyes must be tired if you cant see the other 13

[GibbsISourSavior]

Don't make comments like this until the game is over. He could come out in the 2nd half and throw for 150 yards and 3 TD's.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :doh: :doh:

[LoudMouth12thMan]

Ummmmm....I'm not the coach. Ask him what the hell Brunell is doing. I love Gibbs, and I think the world of Mark, but the time is getting close. I don't care if he racks up 300+ yards and 3 TD's next week, but rather I hope he get's his confidence back b/c he is playng scared. I know what that's like, I had my moments when I played sports and it eats at you the more you lose. He needs a boost, and hopefully he'll get it next week. Otherwise, it's time for a change. Sad but true.
HTTR!

[bdi]

Brunell hasn't got any ability to avoid the sack. Get a hand on him, he's going down. Look into the receivers' eyes and it seems clear that they've had enough. They are young, fast, and dangerous, but they don't have a quarterback to match.

[turbodiesel#44]

I threw my socks and underwear at the TV when Brunell overthrew or threw out of bounds again:mad:

If they stuck to the screen and blocked your view, good move!

:cheers:

[Mooka]

i hate brunell.

I'd rather go 2 - 14 with Campbell getting game experience than go 7-9 or 8-8 with watching such poor, uninteresting offensive football from the Redskins. Watching Brunell is no fun. We pour our hearts and souls into the skins, at least show passion out there. if the other team makes better plays, fine, but come on. brunell is aweful. 2-14 isn't sounding like much fun either...

[Darc Requiem]

Moss looked extremely pissed after the game. He knows what we know but he won't say it. I hope the coaches, no I PRAY the coaches start Campbell against Houston. If there is a team you would want a young QB playing against its Houston. Brunell is done.

[Boss_Hogg]

Moss looked extremely pissed after the game. He knows what we know but he won't say it. I hope the coaches, no I PRAY the coaches start Campbell against Houston. If there is a team you would want a young QB playing against its Houston. Brunell is done.

I saw that too, he looked so frustrated and upset. But he has class, he will not turn into a TO or Meshawn about it.

[#1Redskins]

He has Moss and Randel El to throw to and he can't find either of them open - EVER? I think Moss had one catch and Randel none the whole first half?

He severely underthrew 3 WIDE OPEN RECEIVERS for easy first downs.

Why is he playing? Does Gibbs feel sorry for him because it is his birthday?

Does this team even have a deep pass in it's playbook?

Is this the amazing offense we have been waiting for.

And don't even get me started on the Defense. Has Bledsoe even been slightly pressured once?
Its sad but I agree with you on this one!:(

[Alice]

The o-line sucks.

[Alice]

I confess. I was one that said "it's only preseason."

Doofus.

[scruffylookin]

Doofus.

Might be a good idea if you're going to have a response like that to add one of these :) or this :silly: to it.

Otherwise you're going to come off like a major league jerk.

[GOSKN5]

I am sure this will be merged... but i agree with you.. i have supported brunell through it all... but he doesnt look deep only looks to the out receivers.. never looks across the middle... and throws the ball away.....

this would really be the perfect time to start JC because we will be getting portis and springs back hopefully...and we should be able to beat the texans with those guys back.... it would give JC some confidence as well....

i dont see it happening though...

[Operations]

No way JC starts against the Texans. Gibbs won't throw in the towel at 0-2. It will take 1-5 or so, I think. Stick with Brunell, fellow suffering fans. He's all we'll have the next few weeks. Let's just hope he turns it around...

[Lead Blocker]

Moss looked extremely pissed after the game. He knows what we know but he won't say it. I hope the coaches, no I PRAY the coaches start Campbell against Houston. If there is a team you would want a young QB playing against its Houston. Brunell is done.

The calls for change at QB, under Gibbs, have to come exclusively from the coaching ranks. If the players call for it, expect the coaches to dig in and support Brunell, because old school coaches hate the impression that the players are making the important personnel decisions.

That said, let's hope they remember how they held LaVar, Patrick
Ramsey, Rod Gardner, Taylor Jacobs, and Robert Royale accountable for poor play and hold Brunell to the same standard.