VIDEO- Haynesworth stomping on Gurode [Archive]

tr1

October-2nd-2006, 09:25 AM

Yes, because they should have eyes in the back of their heads. Once they figured out what happened they went after him.

Why are you in this thread trolling TR1 shouldnt you be off finding articles on the Cowboys to post?

Eyes behind their heads? :laugh: Nice excuse.

I don't think most NFL linemen would let Haynesworth walk off the field after that happened...oh, yeah, he did get shoved. :laugh:

I don't think I'm wrong.

Bigredskin77

October-2nd-2006, 09:26 AM

Thats how you are suppose to treat cowboys

Jett

October-2nd-2006, 09:30 AM

Disgusting display of sportsmanship. What do you believe will the suspension/fine will be?

tr1

October-2nd-2006, 09:32 AM

Disgusting display of sportsmanship. What do you believe will the suspension/fine will be?

He's probably gone for the season...very blatant. Very un-called for.

IrishOrange15

October-2nd-2006, 09:34 AM

Eyes behind their heads? :laugh: Nice excuse.

I don't think most NFL linemen would let Haynesworth walk off the field after that happened...oh, yeah, he did get shoved. :laugh:

I don't think I'm wrong.

I don't think anybody knew what happened. Jones was already in the endzone, past Gurode and Haynesworth and everybody was pointed towards that direction. It wasn't in open view for everybody to see. Kind of surprised the officials saw it.

YAKUZA

tr1

October-2nd-2006, 09:36 AM

I don't think anybody knew what happened. Jones was already in the endzone, past Gurode and Haynesworth and everybody was pointed towards that direction. It wasn't in open view for everybody to see. Kind of surprised the officials saw it.

YAKUZA

Then why did he get shoved? The man is on the ground bleeding, and the puke O-Line gives him a push...

Pretty weak.

Streater101

October-2nd-2006, 09:39 AM

The guy took his extra shot, okay, that was dirty, but nothing we haven't seen before. Then this clown pulls his helmet off to stomp on his bare face - then takes off his helmet to protest to the officials?????? WTH? I would have luved to have heard that one "but but but he ____ me first ref" wow...

Whats crazy tho, is that he didn't get ejected till he started screaming at the ref, I would have thought his actions alone would get him tossed immediately. The same way Taylor was tossed for spitting, or Trotter was tossed last year vs. Atlanta.

Also, I'd like to point out if he had of tried that **** vs. the Skins then Chris,Jon,Casey, and Randy - even Clnton would have made sure he wouldn't have been leaving that field under his own power.

Kosher Ham

October-2nd-2006, 09:40 AM

Thats how you are suppose to treat cowboys

:nono: :nono:

Don't be that guy.

EDIT: I understand that this is the video, but why not add it on the existing thread about this subject ?

Throwin64

October-2nd-2006, 09:48 AM

He's probably gone for the season...very blatant. Very un-called for.

I've hated the Cowboys (and no play on that word in this topic) for nearly 40 years, but even I have to say that was an absolutely disgusting cheap shot more reminiscent of the NHL than the NFL. That being said, wasn't one of the provisions of the new CBA (resulting from the TO incident) that the maximum first time disciplinary penalty is 4 games without pay? If so, Haynesworth is getting off light!

IrishOrange15

October-2nd-2006, 09:54 AM

Then why did he get shoved? The man is on the ground bleeding, and the puke O-Line gives him a push...

Pretty weak.

Go to the video at 1:53 mark.

Colombo(75) is in the end zone facing the field goal post with his left arm up in the air.

Flozell (76) is behind Gurode when he gets stomped, but is facing towards the right.

Rivera is off to the right but looking towards the end zone. Later on he's the first to notice Gurode on the ground

Kosier, Jones and Witten are all in the end zone celebrating. Owens was out of the screen shot over to the left.

Bledsoe was far behind Gurode, jogging in looking at the end zone to help celebrate.

Claiming that Dallas wasn't "there for Gurode" is ludicrous. They simply didn't know what happened. Hell, when I originally saw Gurode on the ground I figured he had a knee injury or something like that. Haynesworth was adamant from the time the flag was thrown, could've said something and that's why he may have been pushed. But it's exceedingly clear that none of the players saw what happened to Gurode and probably didn't know what happened until the refs made the call and Haynesworth was already ejected.

YAKUZA

Jett

October-2nd-2006, 09:59 AM

I've hated the Cowboys (and no play on that word in this topic) for nearly 40 years, but even I have to say that was an absolutely disgusting cheap shot more reminiscent of the NHL than the NFL. That being said, wasn't one of the provisions of the new CBA (resulting from the TO incident) that the maximum first time disciplinary penalty is 4 games without pay? If so, Haynesworth is getting off light!

I thought that was for a team punishing a player not the league.

tr1

October-2nd-2006, 10:06 AM

Claiming that Dallas wasn't "there for Gurode" is ludicrous. They simply didn't know what happened.

YAKUZA

He was assaulted twice.

It's obvious when he said something to a teammate about what happened, some 'shoving' took place.

The guy is on the ground in a pool of blood, tells his teammates he's been stomped on, and they 'shove' Haynesworth.

I think these are the facts.

slackermike

October-2nd-2006, 10:08 AM

That was a terrible cheap shot. No player (even those on the Dallas Cowboys) deserve that treatment. I'm wondering -- was the Titan player provoked at all, or is he just a sore loser?

IrishOrange15

October-2nd-2006, 10:12 AM

He was assaulted twice.

It's obvious when he said something to a teammate about what happened, some 'shoving' took place.

The guy is on the ground in a pool of blood, tells his teammates he's been stomped on, and they 'shove' Haynesworth.

I think these are the facts.

1. Gurode wasn't in a pool of blood at that point. He was on his knees with his face down on the ground. When I first saw Gurode, I thought he had injured his knee. Once Haynesworth has been ejected and is walking away, then Gurode sits on the ground and the blood from his face is visible.

2. You don't know and I don't know what Gurode told his teammates.

Perhaps one of the Cowboys players saw what happened to Gurode, but it would've been out of the very corner of their eye since most of the teammates were in the end zone celebrating and the others were standing and looking towards the endzone while Gurode was on the ground.

YAKUZA

IrishOrange15

October-2nd-2006, 10:14 AM

That was a terrible cheap shot. No player (even those on the Dallas Cowboys) deserve that treatment. I'm wondering -- was the Titan player provoked at all, or is he just a sore loser?

Nothing points to that. Gurode's *block* was completely clean. None of the Dallas O-Linemen have dirty player reputations. There weren't many penalties or any other types of skirmishes up to that point. Not sure why Haynesworth decided to do that.

YAKUZA

Angie

October-2nd-2006, 10:14 AM

WOW- it is very hard to understand why some people on this thread is cheering that this guy got stomped. Some of the SKins fans are so STUPID to think this was about another human being. TERRIBLE!

tr1

October-2nd-2006, 10:15 AM

WOW- it is very hard to understand why some people on this thread is cheering that this guy got stomped. Some of the SKins fans are so STUPID to think this was about another human being. TERRIBLE!

Who's cheering he got stomped?

Try reading the thread.

:doh:

Angie

October-2nd-2006, 10:16 AM

Well saying that the team should had jumped in to defend the Oline guy.

Angie

October-2nd-2006, 10:18 AM

Who's cheering he got stomped?

Try reading the thread.

:doh:

Read bigredkin77 comment " that is how you treat a cowboy"....

Switchgear

October-2nd-2006, 10:18 AM

illone

October-2nd-2006, 10:20 AM

You guys are REALLY reaching if you think the other olinemen saw it and didn't respond properly. Regardless of bias against the Cowboys, had they seen that they would have tackled Haynesworth to the ground and beaten him with helmets, repeatedly.

Haynesworth did apologize and admitted he made a HORRIBLE decision, but he should still be fined and suspended.

tr1

October-2nd-2006, 10:22 AM

Give it a rest, tr1. Sure, we'd all like to think that the Skins O-line would lay a beatdown on a guy that did that to one of their own, but even if they (or the Cowboys) did, it doesn't fix what has happened. In fact, it just means penalties and likely fines and suspensions for your own team. The center still has 30 stitches in his head either way.

I can understand you wanting to give the Cowboys hell for not sticking up for one of their own guys, but it really doesn't seem warranted here. The league will do plenty to make sure guys know this sort of behavior won't be tolerated. It would actually be stupid for these guys to take matters in their own hands.

Actually, I heard former Redskins commenting on what happened. They couldn't believe the pukes O-Line let the guy walk off the field...

It's a player thing...guys supposed to stick up for your own guys...obviously, the boys' o-line doesn't get it.

Not that I'd condone it...but it seems to say something about their line.

Mooney

October-2nd-2006, 10:24 AM

Claiming that Dallas wasn't "there for Gurode" is ludicrous. They simply didn't know what happened.

After Taylor spit on Pittman last year, Rod Woodson said something like, "If he spit on me, I wouldn't care if I was on the field, in the locker room, or in line at the grocery store, we're fighting."

This is one of those times that a fight should have broken out in the locker room after the game.

Tastes Like Chicken

October-2nd-2006, 10:25 AM

Gurode said that they weren't even talking trash during the game. This was a frustrated Haynesworth who completely lost it. He should be suspended without pay for at least 6 games.

tr1

October-2nd-2006, 10:25 AM

BTW, there were two kicks:

Gurode looked like a fighter who had just gone 12 rounds. He was kicked twice Sunday by Tennessee's 6-foot-6, 320-pound defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth, the second kick being a stomp on Gurode's forehead after the lineman's helmet had come off. Gurode needed several stitches to fix multiple cuts on his forehead and underneath his left eye. His vision was blurred, and his eye was almost closed from the swelling.

http://www.montereyherald.com/mld/montereyherald/sports/15658864.htm

tr1

October-2nd-2006, 10:26 AM

After Taylor spit on Pittman last year, Rod Woodson said something like, "If he spit on me, I wouldn't care if I was on the field, in the locker room, or in line at the grocery store, we're fighting."

This is one of those times that a fight should have broken out in the locker room after the game.

I believe this is what I was alluding to...a player code.

Apparently, the boys' o-line doesn't subscribe to it.

CowboyinDC

October-2nd-2006, 10:33 AM

I believe this is what I was alluding to...a player code.

Apparently, the boys' o-line doesn't subscribe to it.

If you look at the clip I think its pretty safe to say that they didn't even see what happened, they just saw him on the ground.

Henry

October-2nd-2006, 10:34 AM

You guys are REALLY reaching if you think the other olinemen saw it and didn't respond properly. Regardless of bias against the Cowboys, had they seen that they would have tackled Haynesworth to the ground and beaten him with helmets, repeatedly.

I agree with this. We don't need to fabricate reasons to bash the Cowboys.

Bottom line is that was a horrible act and I hope Haynesworth is dealt with appropriately.

tr1

October-2nd-2006, 10:34 AM

If you look at the clip I think its pretty safe to say that they didn't even see what happened, they just saw him on the ground.

I think they gave him a little shove after they found out what happened...check the video.

JMac

October-2nd-2006, 10:36 AM

That was the most pathetic cheapshot I have ever seen. Gurode should be able to file a civil claim a large sum of $$ for that.

I also stood there wondering why no Cowboy took to his defense. I hate the Cowboys but darn, help your boy out.

jpyaks3

October-2nd-2006, 10:40 AM

If you look at the clip I think its pretty safe to say that they didn't even see what happened, they just saw him on the ground.

Tr1 is just trolling he has to try and find a way to spin everything against the cowboys or in the redskins favor.

IrishOrange15

October-2nd-2006, 10:41 AM

After Taylor spit on Pittman last year, Rod Woodson said something like, "If he spit on me, I wouldn't care if I was on the field, in the locker room, or in line at the grocery store, we're fighting."

Apples and oranges. If I get spit on, I can retaliate since spit isn't likely to harm me. If I have a 300+ pound man stomp on my head and create a gash that causes me to get 30 stitches, I think me retaliating takes a back seat for now until I protect myself first.

This is one of those times that a fight should have broken out in the locker room after the game.

Yes, because it's so easy to start a fight in a locker room that is on the opposite side of the field.

But the big point is that the other Titans players (some of whom where standing by Gurode to see if he was okay) shouldn't be punished for Haynesworth's actions.

YAKUZA

Number5

October-2nd-2006, 10:45 AM

I agree with this. We don't need to fabricate reasons to bash the Cowboys.

Bottom line is that was a horrible act and I hope Haynesworth is dealt with appropriately.

I agree 100%! Any attempt to try and spin this into a "well, my team would have done this or that" is just trash and has no place in our society. A man could have been killed....KILLED, yet some of us are more concerned about what wasn't done in retailation then having a concern for his health. :doh:

IrishOrange15

October-2nd-2006, 10:45 AM

Tr1 is just trolling he has to try and find a way to spin everything against the cowboys or in the redskins favor.

I don't have a problem with thinking this way. And if I felt that the Cowboys players saw it happen and did nothing, I could see the point being made. But like I said, go to the video at 1:53 and freeze it and you'll see most of the Cowboys players in the end zone celebrating with Bledsoe, Flozell and Rivera behind Gurode, but looking up towards the end zone. Plus, the "Gurode was lying in a pool of blood" claim is just false. By the time his head really started to gush with blood, the medical staff was helping him out and Haynesworth was already ejected and walking towards Jeff Fisher.

YAKUZA

Mooney

October-2nd-2006, 10:51 AM

Yes, because it's so easy to start a fight in a locker room that is on the opposite side of the field.

I'll bet Randy White and Harvey Martin would have found the locker room.

Alabama Man

October-2nd-2006, 11:23 AM

tr1 you are disgusting. The only thing you have to take away from this is whats wrong with the cowboys.

SkinsGlory

October-2nd-2006, 11:25 AM

Ugh, after watching the video for the first time and reazliing how hurt the Center was, that was just awful.

Zguy28

October-2nd-2006, 12:17 PM

Dude should be put in jail. Felony assault and battery.

BigDFan5

October-2nd-2006, 12:31 PM

tr1

October-2nd-2006, 01:58 PM

Seriously tr1 to take something this disgusting and unwarranted action against Gurode, and to try and make it about the Cowboys is a new low for you. Most everyone here already knew you were a troll, but now you have shown them something worse. You not only a troll, but a bad person. This is not about the Cowboys or the Redskins or the rivalry, its not even about you tr1. This is about Gurode and waht happened to him. For you to try and inject this garbage into it, is pathetic

BigDFan...I love you, man.

Re-read the thread. I said it before, I'll say it again: Haynesworth should be suspended for the season.

Now, what you failed to understand is that I was surprised at the mild response to Haynesworth by Gurode's fellow linemen. I think that was a pathetic response.

And yes, I'm bad...very, very bad.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

tr1

October-2nd-2006, 02:00 PM

I think the Dallas O-Line should wear dresses next week...

JPM285181

October-2nd-2006, 02:04 PM

Disgusting display of sportsmanship. What do you believe will the suspension/fine will be? Hopefully the remainder of the season.

Henry

October-2nd-2006, 02:09 PM

I think the Dallas O-Line should wear dresses next week...

You're trying way too hard.

Riggo#44

October-2nd-2006, 02:34 PM

Go to the video at 1:53 mark.

Colombo(75) is in the end zone facing the field goal post with his left arm up in the air.

Flozell (76) is behind Gurode when he gets stomped, but is facing towards the right.

Rivera is off to the right but looking towards the end zone. Later on he's the first to notice Gurode on the ground

Kosier, Jones and Witten are all in the end zone celebrating. Owens was out of the screen shot over to the left.

Bledsoe was far behind Gurode, jogging in looking at the end zone to help celebrate.

Claiming that Dallas wasn't "there for Gurode" is ludicrous. They simply didn't know what happened. Hell, when I originally saw Gurode on the ground I figured he had a knee injury or something like that. Haynesworth was adamant from the time the flag was thrown, could've said something and that's why he may have been pushed. But it's exceedingly clear that none of the players saw what happened to Gurode and probably didn't know what happened until the refs made the call and Haynesworth was already ejected.

YAKUZA

Honestly - I was surprised at the lack of a reaction as well. Case in point - the '99 playoff game. Recall when Robert Porcher (I believe it was Porcher) tried to go after BJ? And BJ threw him down? As I recall, that was behind the play - and the ENTIRE Redskins offense and some of the Defense were pushing, shoving, grabbing face masks - Tre got ejected - the entire Redskins offense and some of the defense got fines after that game. I am not condoning fines or fighting or anthing like that - except in a case like this. They were standing up for their teammate over a much smaller infraction.

By contrast the next year in Dallas - Alonzo Spellman sacks Jeff George, grabs him by the jersey and drags him like a sack of potatoes (w/o a call - which sent me spewing a list of expletives that would make a sailor's whore blush) and the rest of the team did nothing.

I didn't see the amount of fire from Gurode's teammates than I would have liked if I were a Boys fan.

EDIT: This, in no way whatsoever, condones what Hayneworth did. He should be suspended for the season and given the Todd Bertuzzi treatment. That was battery, plain and simple.

tr1

October-2nd-2006, 03:00 PM

You're trying way too hard.

It still seems to be getting a reaction...but, okay. I'll stop.

Who Del

October-2nd-2006, 03:17 PM

tr1 for your own sake just focus on the Eagles gameday today. I'm sure there is some sort of injury news on Stallworth or Westbrook that you can spin into a 4-6 week injury. And then for the rest of the week focus on the Giants.

Haynesworth is dumb. That is all.

#284ever

October-2nd-2006, 03:21 PM

Thats how you are suppose to treat cowboys

I feel sorry for you Bigredskin77 and your parents, I will pray for your children and hope that they are never injuried in any sport.

KARMA

TODD

October-2nd-2006, 03:53 PM

Nice way for your players to come to your guy's defense...

Haynesworth was able to walk off the team.

Golic was saying the same thing this morning.

Mooney

October-2nd-2006, 04:24 PM

Alonzo Spellman sacks Jeff George, grabs him by the jersey and drags him like a sack of potatoes and the rest of the team did nothing.

I have never been as disgusted or disappointed with a Redskin team as I was at that moment. I completely expected a full blown riot.

DallasCowboyFan156

October-2nd-2006, 04:31 PM

I for one am happy that the Cowboys didn't retaliate. Then they would have had to suspend some of our guys to.

As for not helping out Gurode. It's pretty obvious the Cowboys had no idea what was going on. Most were in the end zone celebrating.

And tr1, seriously dude. Stop trying to turn this into a bash against the Cowboys. A mans sight and potentially his life are more important than football any day any time.

Tom [Giants fan]

October-2nd-2006, 05:38 PM

This is the first time I'm actually seeing it. What a cowardly act by a pathetic human being if you can call him that.

And tr1, what did you want, a riot to start between the teams? I did not see any Cowboy on that replay that saw it fast enough to even react. I'm sure they would have severely which probably makes it lucky that they didn't see it when it happened.

BigRay

October-2nd-2006, 05:42 PM

That was truly pathetic what a coward as much as I hate the Cowboys he did not deserve that not even a little bit.

RiggoReincarnated

October-2nd-2006, 05:47 PM

[QUOTE=Riggo#44]
By contrast the next year in Dallas - Alonzo Spellman sacks Jeff George, grabs him by the jersey and drags him like a sack of potatoes (w/o a call - which sent me spewing a list of expletives that would make a sailor's whore blush) and the rest of the team did nothing.

QUOTE]

I think the players name was Ebenezer Ekuban, not Spellman. But yes, that was an infamous day...typical of the lack of pride we had when we played under Norv.

Riggo#44

October-3rd-2006, 11:50 AM

By contrast the next year in Dallas - Alonzo Spellman sacks Jeff George, grabs him by the jersey and drags him like a sack of potatoes (w/o a call - which sent me spewing a list of expletives that would make a sailor's whore blush) and the rest of the team did nothing.

I think the players name was Ebenezer Ekuban, not Spellman. But yes, that was an infamous day...typical of the lack of pride we had when we played under Norv.

Was it Ekuban? Anyway - it doesn;t matter the point was - you saw how much chemisty-closeness that team had. That is why they unravelled after a 6-2 start - depsite the injuries. A situation not entirely different from the Cowboys slide last year. It'll be interesting to see how it develops.