View Full Version : You're the Head Coach of Offense for the first series.
dcsmooth
November-2nd-2006, 09:24 PM
If you were the head coach of offense, what would be your first series of play? On the first play, I would play action pass to a receiver downfield or to Cooley across the middle for 15 yards or more. If this play is successful, on the second play, I would play action pass again to a receiver downfield or to Cooley for 10 yards or more. I would do this play one or two more times but to other receivers. This would certainly open up the field a little more for passing and improve our chances of running the ball effectively.
What are your thoughts on the very first play...a play action pass? Even if it's not completed it would send a message that we are willing to go downfield. At some point during the first quarter, I believe it's important to establish the threat, the fear, or the possibility of throwing the ball downfield.
dcoles11
November-2nd-2006, 09:29 PM
I'd line Randel El up at QB, like back in his Indiana days and just freak everyone out :silly:
and then just hand the ball off to Portis :laugh:
worstSeat
November-2nd-2006, 09:30 PM
Portis, Portis, and on the second first down, Portis again. If there's something that drives me crazy about Saunders, it's how quickly he gives up on three yards and a cloud of dust -- up the middle of the line. Portis is great on the corner, but that's not smashmouth, Redskins/Gibbs football. As that NY Times piece said Parcells said, the Skins' O needs to start taking care of the Skins' D.
Will be interesting to see if Moss is healthy enough to play.
skinsrevival
November-2nd-2006, 09:31 PM
If you were the head coach of offense, what would be your first series of play? On the first play, I would play action pass to a receiver downfield or to Cooley across the middle for 15 yards or more. If this play is successful, on the second play, I would play action pass again to a receiver downfield or to Cooley for 10 yards or more. I would do this play one or two more times but to other receivers. This would certainly open up the field a little more for passing and improve our chances of running the ball effectively.
What are your thoughts on the very first play...a play action pass? Even if it's not completed it would send a message that we are willing to go downfield. At some point during the first quarter, I believe it's important to establish the threat, the fear, or the possibility of throwing the ball downfield.
Right along with you man. Play action because the Dallas D is in attack mode and will be playing to stuff the run and the screens. Play action for the first play and hit B.Lloyd downfield.
Of course they will hand the ball off to CP on the first play no matter how many people are in the box.
ejay183
November-2nd-2006, 09:32 PM
I'd line Randel El up at QB, like back in his Indiana days and just freak everyone out :silly:
and then just hand the ball off to Portis :laugh:
Yeah that would be nice and may work
redskin81
November-2nd-2006, 09:45 PM
If you were the head coach of offense, what would be your first series of play? On the first play, I would play action pass to a receiver downfield or to Cooley across the middle for 15 yards or more. If this play is successful, on the second play, I would play action pass again to a receiver downfield or to Cooley for 10 yards or more. I would do this play one or two more times but to other receivers. This would certainly open up the field a little more for passing and improve our chances of running the ball effectively.
What are your thoughts on the very first play...a play action pass? Even if it's not completed it would send a message that we are willing to go downfield. At some point during the first quarter, I believe it's important to establish the threat, the fear, or the possibility of throwing the ball downfield.
Am I getting paid the 4 mill?
Spaceman Spiff
November-2nd-2006, 09:47 PM
Rather be the defensive head coach, cause thats where the real problem with this team is.
redskin81
November-2nd-2006, 09:51 PM
Rather be the defensive head coach, cause thats where the real problem with this team is.
Not is not. Its all Brunell. Every bit of it. The whole team. All on Brunell. No tackling. Brunell. No blocking. Brunell. Injuries. You guessed it Brunell. Someone on Extremeskins stubs their toe. Brunell.
Spaceman Spiff
November-2nd-2006, 09:52 PM
Not is not. Its all Brunell. Every bit of it. The whole team. All on Brunell. No tackling. Brunell. No blocking. Brunell. Injuries. You guessed it Brunell. Someone on Extremeskins stubs their toe. Brunell.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Brunell taught Arch how to cover and Carter how to get to the QB!! He also taught Holdman how to play linebacker!!
dcsmooth
November-2nd-2006, 09:54 PM
Am I getting paid the 4 mill?
Of course, you would have to prove yourself...not that you're an offensive coach but that you are a true Redskins fan. Although your name says "redskin81" you could be a mole hired to infiltrate our organization. :laugh:
redskin81
November-2nd-2006, 09:54 PM
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Brunell taught Arch how to cover and Carter how to get to the QB!! He also taught Holdman how to play linebacker!!
Yes, yes he did spaceman. And if you think about it he caused global warming. And if you disagree with any of the above you know nothing about football.
mook_juice83
November-2nd-2006, 09:54 PM
SMASH.....MOUTH.......ALL......GAME. Redskins football baby:applause: :dallasuck
redskin81
November-2nd-2006, 09:55 PM
Of course, you would have to prove yourself...not that you're an offensive coach but that you are a true Redskins fan. Although your name says "redskin81" you could be a mole hired to infiltrate our organization. :laugh:
Id like to inflitrate the offense and defensive lines ans ask them if they realize the season has started.
Spaceman Spiff
November-2nd-2006, 09:56 PM
Yes, yes he did spaceman. And if you think about it he caused global warming. And if you disagree with any of the above you know nothing about football.
He also was the 2nd gunman on the grassy knoll. Look at the Zapruder film. He's there.
redskin81
November-2nd-2006, 09:59 PM
He also was the 2nd gunman on the grassy knoll. Look at the Zapruder film. He's there.
You know what? I thought i saw him when I watched the JFK assasination documentary. It was!!!!!!! We need to bench him and immediatly put Campbell in. Who cares if hes not ready or not. As long the the evil known as Brunell is benched then all is right with the world. Because dont forget about the future: It is now ya know.
dcsmooth
November-2nd-2006, 10:00 PM
Rather be the defensive head coach, cause thats where the real problem with this team is.
Spaceman,
Your comment is true. Our problem this year is mostly with the defense. With the return of so many key players, hopefully, we do see some improvement. But, if you were the head coach of offense...
Res_Novae
November-2nd-2006, 10:01 PM
Run..Run..Run..
redskin81
November-2nd-2006, 10:02 PM
Ok guys if we're goint to have a reazonable realistic converstion in this thread then I dont wanna post.
Blackest Eyes
November-2nd-2006, 10:07 PM
first play...deep down the right sideline to B Lloyd. they wouldn't expect a deep pass on the first play. they will probably expect run.
Spaceman Spiff
November-2nd-2006, 10:13 PM
Spaceman,
Your comment is true. Our problem this year is mostly with the defense. With the return of so many key players, hopefully, we do see some improvement. But, if you were the head coach of offense...
Run the goddamn ball.
This is a team without an identity, I think we can all agree on that. I'll say Brunell could be alright if he just trusted his arm. When he can plant his feet, wind up and unleash, he's still got it. Look at that pass to Patten in the Jags game. Look at the bomb to Lloyd in the Titans game. The game winner to Moss.
But he doesn't trust his arm. So either I'd call passing plays where all the receivers are running routes that are 10+ yards every time and FORCE him to throw the ball longer (which sounds silly), or I run the ball.
We've got Portis. And if the staff is still worried about his shoulder, we have Betts. And Duckett. And Sellers. Hell, ARE can run it if he has to. Reverses to Moss.
Holy ****, we could run teams right out of the building. We could win the time of possesion battle by having it 35-40 mins. We could wear down defenses like none other.
And why we don't do this, I have no idea. We're stacked at RB, yet don't use any of them. Duckett had a few real nice runs against Dallas in the first game and we haven't heard anything from him since.
Oh. And it keeps the defense off the field.
It's almost too simple.
You know what? I thought i saw him when I watched the JFK assasination documentary. It was!!!!!!! We need to bench him and immediatly put Campbell in. Who cares if hes not ready or not. As long the the evil known as Brunell is benched then all is right with the world. Because dont forget about the future: It is now ya know.
Big ****in number 8 there, you can see it through the bushes.
VegunN
November-2nd-2006, 10:15 PM
50 yard route down the sideline to B. Lloyd.
Digger
November-2nd-2006, 10:18 PM
1st down? hmmmm...I'd punt. They'd never expect it!
Doctorfro
November-2nd-2006, 11:16 PM
double reverse to ARE who throws major bomb to Lloyd for the TD
Doctorfro
November-2nd-2006, 11:17 PM
Run..Run..Run..
Honestly, I'd love to see us do that but since we have no passing game everyone is just going to stack the line and shut down our run.
OriginalWhizzinator
November-3rd-2006, 12:26 AM
1st down? hmmmm...I'd punt. They'd never expect it!
NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise.... I'll come in again.
sorry for the motnt python reference....Honestly, I'd like to see a CP stretch run (and give the man 25 carries) or a trick-or-treat ARE reverse pass...
mi6
November-3rd-2006, 12:28 AM
The Skins have been pretty vanilla this year! Their offense is too predictable. Grandma's could anticipate what's coming up next.
To throw everyone off guard I would try a gadget play. A flea flicker. Or, have Boonell throw a lateral to Antwaan who in turn throws it deep to Brandon Llyod.:gaintsuck
jtyler42
November-3rd-2006, 12:39 AM
I would utilize no-huddle offense...
I would go PA pass on first down and hit BLloyd on a deep crossing route for a 15-20 yard gain...
Next play I would run a toss sweep right to Portis(This is a smashmouth run) for 5yds...2nd down Toss sweep left to Portis for 5 more yds...
1st down I would run WR screen to Randle El on the left side for a 10yd gain...1st down I would run Portis straight up the middle for 3yds...
2nd down I would line Cooley up in left slot w/Randle El outside and I would run a fake WR screen to Randle El were Cooley runs out like he is going to block El's man but he slips past him, and Brunell pumps to Randle El to draw the D and lofts a pretty pass down the left sideline to Cooley for 6!!!!
AllAboutSkins08
November-3rd-2006, 12:41 AM
the annexation of puerto rico
rsanders
November-3rd-2006, 12:46 AM
Not is not. Its all Brunell. Every bit of it. The whole team. All on Brunell. No tackling. Brunell. No blocking. Brunell. Injuries. You guessed it Brunell. Someone on Extremeskins stubs their toe. Brunell.
Finally! Someone who gets it. If Brunell could manage to put an offensive series together, then maybe the defense would have time to rest. I am glad atleast 1 person gets it on here.
desioreo87
November-3rd-2006, 12:55 AM
Not is not. Its all Brunell. Every bit of it. The whole team. All on Brunell. No tackling. Brunell. No blocking. Brunell. Injuries. You guessed it Brunell. Someone on Extremeskins stubs their toe. Brunell.
It seems that you are joking which is cool and I know that you are a pretty ardent brunell backer but you are just as bad as those people who say it is all brunell's fault by saying that brunell shouldn't shoulder some of the blame.
Neways to the point of the thread. I would prolly go I formation and run it straight ahead. Its how we took out the jaguars and I think our O-line can make it work against anybody. Coulda worked in Indy but we had more east-west running plays which played to the colts strength which is speed.
peckerwood
November-3rd-2006, 02:54 AM
The Skins have been pretty vanilla this year! Their offense is too predictable. Grandma's could anticipate what's coming up next.
To throw everyone off guard I would try a gadget play. A flea flicker. Or, have Boonell throw a lateral to Antwaan who in turn throws it deep to Brandon Llyod.:gaintsuck
In the Jags game, first play we ran a flea flicker.
brunell threw an interception.
Park City Skins
November-3rd-2006, 03:50 AM
I don't have the 360 or Madden so I'm not sure what I would do that would work. :)
Though I guess I could try to figure out the defensive formations that Dallas likes to use typically on the first series. Maybe look at the game tapes from the first one and see what that D liked to do and what the players were keying on. Who lined up where and such. When they like to blitz. Maybe take a look a the game tape from Dallas game the other night and see what worked and what didn't against some of their defensive formations. Maybe take a look at a few plays they audibled to after an offensive audible. That kind of thing. Then go from there.
aussieskin
November-3rd-2006, 04:09 AM
Anyone who saw the Patriots game last weekend saw the perfect way to dismantle the COVER 2 system, spread the defence out from sideline to sideline, and have every receiver run a route away from the middle, then just pass the ball to the middle of the field where the receiver is one on one, simple but brilliant.
So if i was head coach
1st down: run up the middle
2nd down: play action pass to captain chaos in the middle of the field
then if we still need yards for the first down Portis again
hervoicehoneyed
November-3rd-2006, 04:24 AM
Surprise punt on first down to make a statement with the D!
Just kidding. :laugh:
kingfish50
November-3rd-2006, 05:40 AM
Not is not. Its all Brunell. Every bit of it. The whole team. All on Brunell. No tackling. Brunell. No blocking. Brunell. Injuries. You guessed it Brunell. Someone on Extremeskins stubs their toe. Brunell.
Okay, we all know that it's not all Brunell. Our O-line has pass protection issues. Our defense can't seem to, well...play defense.
Like it or not, it still comes down to Brunell. He's the so called leader of this team. Our defense gives up the big plays but what does that have to do with Brunell being unable to complete a 2-3 yard pass? Not being able to complete a pass over 10 yards? Over throwing and under throwing to his receivers on a consistent basis? Throwing out of bounds when there are usually 2-3 wide open receivers down field? Throwing into double and triple coverage when he's got an open reciever on the opposite side of the field with his thumb up his ass, hoping Brunell will throw to him?
Your going to sit here and tell me Brunell is not the problem? That's bullcrap. If for some reason Brunell plays a half way decent game and we win this Sunday, that still doesn't get him off the hook. That's been his signature since he's been here, inconsistent. He's good one week and then looks like the football has some kind of disease and just throws it away the next week. That's not going to change and if you think we can make a run for the playoffs, meaning we need to win at least the next 8 out of 9 games to at least be a wild card with Brunell as our starting QB, then give me whatever it is your smoking or popping, as your just hallucinating.
Aluadan
November-3rd-2006, 06:08 AM
With Brunell in there, punt.
christopher44
November-3rd-2006, 07:07 AM
FIRE Boonell.Period.
christopher44
November-3rd-2006, 07:08 AM
Anyone who saw the Patriots game last weekend saw the perfect way to dismantle the COVER 2 system, spread the defence out from sideline to sideline, and have every receiver run a route away from the middle, then just pass the ball to the middle of the field where the receiver is one on one, simple but brilliant.
So if i was head coach
1st down: run up the middle
2nd down: play action pass to captain chaos in the middle of the field
then if we still need yards for the first down Portis again
Tom Brady=Real qb
Boonell=Imposter.
Thats the difference.
dieselfan44
November-3rd-2006, 09:13 AM
hail mary, hail mary, hail mary
Beaudry
November-3rd-2006, 09:21 AM
I would stand there and ask Al what play he is calling, since that is his job.
skinfan13
November-3rd-2006, 09:24 AM
first and 10 from the 23. give to portis, right side, bounces through the hole for 4 yards.
2nd and 6 from the 27. handoff to portis up the middle gain of 3.
3rd and 3 from the 30. playaction pass short to cooley, gain of 6.
1st and 10 from the 36. mid field pass to santana moss, gain of 26, 3 YAC.
1st and 10 from the 35. handoff to clinton portis up the gut, breaks a tackle for a gain of 5.
2nd and 5 from the 30. handoff left side to clinton portis, turns the corner for a gain of 4.
3rd and 1 from the 26. QB sneak brunel, gain of 1. chain gang come out. first down.
1st and 10 from the 25. end around ARE, gain of 7.
2nd and 3 from the 18. pass intended for loyd, incomplete.
3rd and 3 from the 18. shotgun pass to james thrash, gain of 2.
4th and 1. novak splits the uprights for 3 points.
Skins 3 Pukes 0
dcsmooth
November-3rd-2006, 05:27 PM
I would utilize no-huddle offense...
I would go PA pass on first down and hit BLloyd on a deep crossing route for a 15-20 yard gain...
Next play I would run a toss sweep right to Portis(This is a smashmouth run) for 5yds...2nd down Toss sweep left to Portis for 5 more yds...
1st down I would run WR screen to Randle El on the left side for a 10yd gain...1st down I would run Portis straight up the middle for 3yds...
2nd down I would line Cooley up in left slot w/Randle El outside and I would run a fake WR screen to Randle El where Cooley runs out like he is going to block El's man but he slips past him, and Brunell pumps to Randle El to draw the D and lofts a pretty pass down the left sideline to Cooley for 6!!!!
Ahhh, nice...I like this play! :applause:
Hooper
November-3rd-2006, 05:32 PM
I would run the ball. Because even if you do call all those passes, and guys are open downfield, Brunell is just going to throw the ball to Betts in the flats.
redskin81
November-3rd-2006, 05:40 PM
Okay, we all know that it's not all Brunell. Our O-line has pass protection issues. Our defense can't seem to, well...play defense.
Like it or not, it still comes down to Brunell. He's the so called leader of this team. Our defense gives up the big plays but what does that have to do with Brunell being unable to complete a 2-3 yard pass? Not being able to complete a pass over 10 yards? Over throwing and under throwing to his receivers on a consistent basis? Throwing out of bounds when there are usually 2-3 wide open receivers down field? Throwing into double and triple coverage when he's got an open reciever on the opposite side of the field with his thumb up his ass, hoping Brunell will throw to him?
Your going to sit here and tell me Brunell is not the problem? That's bullcrap. If for some reason Brunell plays a half way decent game and we win this Sunday, that still doesn't get him off the hook. That's been his signature since he's been here, inconsistent. He's good one week and then looks like the football has some kind of disease and just throws it away the next week. That's not going to change and if you think we can make a run for the playoffs, meaning we need to win at least the next 8 out of 9 games to at least be a wild card with Brunell as our starting QB, then give me whatever it is your smoking or popping, as your just hallucinating.
I completely agree that Brunell is part of the problem. I have said that in may of my posts. But im telling you it doesnt matter who is back there JC or Brunell, if the team doesnt improve on both sides of the ball we're not going to win 6 games this year. Ironically I have been ready for a qb change fot a long time. The reason that i defend keeping Brunell as qb is because if JC we're ready Gibbs would have him in there. If the kids not ready then why throw him in there and ruin him. Some qbs sit for a couple of years and are better of in the long term for it.
Tastes Like Chicken
November-3rd-2006, 05:48 PM
1. QB naked bootleg.
2. QB sneak.
3. Hand off to Portis, Flea-flicker pitch back to QB.
4. Reverse to Randle El, with QB as lead blocker.
5. Go to Step 1 and repeat process until emergency QB needed, then resume normal playbook.
Hooper
November-3rd-2006, 05:49 PM
1. QB naked bootleg.
2. QB sneak.
3. Hand off to Portis, Flea-flicker pitch back to QB.
4. Reverse to Randle El, with QB as lead blocker.
5. Go to Step 1 and repeat process until emergency QB needed, then resume normal playbook.
LOL. Don't forget to use the QB as the wedgebreaker on kick returns.
VMAN911
November-3rd-2006, 05:50 PM
1st down? hmmmm...I'd punt. They'd never expect it! :laugh: :doh:
Phixius
November-3rd-2006, 06:44 PM
I would go deep to throw the D off.
WVUforREDSKINS
November-3rd-2006, 06:50 PM
I'd line Randel El up at QB, like back in his Indiana days and just freak everyone out :silly:
and then just hand the ball off to Portis :laugh:
I like! I like!!
I would come out and run a quick screen to Randle El hopefully he breaks breaks a big gain. If the defense is lined up close to him audible and run play action deep pass to Randle El.
Either way I think Randle El will have to give the Cowboys nightmares like moss has done in the past.
VAHOGFAN
November-3rd-2006, 07:44 PM
3 personal fouls in a row and punt out of the end zone......why break with tradition.
OFFCO FOR HIRE
November-4th-2006, 12:04 AM
Defense had plenty of time to rest against Indy. Oh that's right I forgot about how quickly they scored.:rolleyes: :doh: :laugh:
FedExFielder
November-4th-2006, 12:14 AM
I'd start out like my boy Charlie Weis, simple hand-off up the middle with Portis to start things, and if all goes well, won't need a second play.
fanfrompotomac
November-4th-2006, 04:54 AM
portis up the middle. then use the option and give it to portis ofcourse and than throw a short pass to cooley.keep running it and let the skins oline win the battle of the trenches and show the whole league what the skins are really worth.I still believe 9 in a row or we don't go. go skins. ill be listening and cheering from across the pond.
kingfish50
November-4th-2006, 05:01 AM
I completely agree that Brunell is part of the problem. I have said that in may of my posts. But im telling you it doesnt matter who is back there JC or Brunell, if the team doesnt improve on both sides of the ball we're not going to win 6 games this year. Ironically I have been ready for a qb change fot a long time. The reason that i defend keeping Brunell as qb is because if JC we're ready Gibbs would have him in there. If the kids not ready then why throw him in there and ruin him. Some qbs sit for a couple of years and are better of in the long term for it.
I see where you are coming from but being that Brunell is the problem and Campbell may not be ready to play, then go with Collins. We have nothing to loose but the game and with Brunell as our QB, that's a definite.
APBT
November-4th-2006, 06:58 AM
My first play would be a Three receiver set with Cooley in at TE. I would send Cooley wide. If the LB follows, I would give it to Clinton. That should get us at least 5 yards.
My second play would be set up the same way. This time the LB may not follow. If he does I will throw a screen to Cooleys way for a 10+ yard gain. If the LB does follow and the Safety sinks down, I will do a PA to the open receiver.
The third play I would come out in a 4 wide set with TJ Duckett running up the gut. There is no way in hell some 180 pound corner wants to bang with Duckett.
I could be wrong, but I thought football was about mismatches and exploits. :dallasuck
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