Schefter on Frank Gore's Nuts.

[EnFoRcEr_uPu]

http://nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9800358

This article almost makes me want to laugh...

"Already this season, Gore has piled up 831 yards -- 247 more than James' 584, 252 more than McGahee's 579, and 318 more than Portis' 523."

Now don't get me wrong, I'm certainly not saying that Gore is a nobody. This guy can run, plain and simple. But to compare him to the 3 backs above, let alone talk as if he's above all 3 in talent, is laughable. No mention of the worst O-line in football for Edge, or McGahee's broken ribs, or Portis' numerous injuries keeping all 3 from doing much of anything.

Props to Gore, and I wish him a great future, but he's got a ways to go before he can be mentioned with the above(namely Edge and CP).

[909997]

i agree................

[TD_washingtonredskins]

He appears to be comparing productivity for this season, not talent.

Basically, Gore is doing a Hell of a job on a below-average team that usually finds itself trailing (not as much anymore).

[EnFoRcEr_uPu]

He appears to be comparing productivity for this season, not talent.

Basically, Gore is doing a Hell of a job on a below-average team that usually finds itself trailing (not as much anymore).

Very true. It just seems to me that he's putting too much stock into a single season that is only half-way over.

[thespaniard]

It's not like Gore has an OLine either..

[BigDFan5]

He never compared these guys talents at all, just pointed out that all of them came from Miami, and Gore was producing most this year

[Kevin101]

I give Gore his props, dude is a monster, but let him play 2 full seasons before being compared to those 3.

[BigDFan5]

I give Gore his props, dude is a monster, but let him play 2 full seasons before being compared to those 3.


He wasnt being compared to them

[jpyaks3]

Very true. It just seems to me that he's putting too much stock into a single season that is only half-way over.

What else does he have to put stock in? Gore is in his second year, and is lighting it up. The only negative was his earlier fumble problems. He has a good rookie year on fairly limited carries, and he is running great right now. At this moment I would take Gore over the other U runningbacks. In his second year he is outrushing the rest. If you watch some niners games he is great, if he can stay healthy he can be a top 5 back in this league. I am a niner fan so you can call me a homer, but this year he is 5th in rushing yards and has a helluva YPC. The only player in the top 20 in Rushing Yards that his YPC is behind is Westbrook by .2 and Barber by 0.1 ypc. And Westbrook has 200 less yards.

[OWUeagleMD]

Seems fine to me. Frank Gore is having a better season than all the guys mentioned. What's the problem?

[The-Rock]

Yeah and in 2003 Coles was more productive than Steve Smith. Therefore Coles > Steve Smith? I dont think so.

[jpyaks3]

Yeah and in 2003 Coles was more productive than Steve Smith. Therefore Coles > Steve Smith? I dont think so.

This is his second year in the league and he is outrushing these other players in their prime. Gore will only get better, right now he is on pace to get 1500+ yards. Just because Gore wasnt a 1st round pick doesnt mean he isnt talented. He is outplaying all those players this year, and its only his second year in the league. I am not saying he will be better then the other 3 but right now it looks like he definately has the potential to.

[jasimpson]

It's all about the U.

[OWUeagleMD]

Yeah and in 2003 Coles was more productive than Steve Smith. Therefore Coles > Steve Smith? I dont think so.

So in 2003 if you saw an article claiming Coles was better than Smith you would have taken exception to it?

Schefter is making a simple comparison. He doesn't say that Gore is a superior palyer to these three and will be for the next five years. He says only that Gore is outproducing them this year.

[canethang 305]

Hey guy's just a little tidbit of backround info, Portis and Mcgahee were behind Frank Gore on the depth chart until Gore tore his ACL in 2001, Portis took over then. Yet another knee injury put Mcgahee in the line up. Gore was a beast before all of those injuries. While it's a strectch he was compared to Barry Sanders when Barry was freshman at Okie State. I believe his coming out is in part to the time it takes to heel from those type of injuries. Looks like the Niners may have gotten a steal when many chastised them for drafting him so high.

[CPortJGibbs89]

He has had alot of knee problems and its good to see him really break out as a great running back this year. The only thing that I would take from this is that the U puts out great running back talent. Props to him, he is playing for the 49'ers and putting up great numbers.

[drowland]

He appears to be comparing productivity for this season, not talent.

Basically, Gore is doing a Hell of a job on a below-average team that usually finds itself trailing (not as much anymore).

It's productivity and talent. People forget that Gore was the star RB recruit at Miami. Portis and McGahee got their shots because Gore got hurt. Gore was always the #1 RB going into the season. If Gore can stay healthy he'll be a star in this league.

[anotherdallasfanindc]

Yeah and in 2003 Coles was more productive than Steve Smith. Therefore Coles > Steve Smith? I dont think so.

BigDfan and owueagle have said this alread and i hate to be a broken record, but for goodness sakes, he is not making a direction comparrison of Gore > any of the three....just pionting out the success he is having this season compared to the others......

[The-Rock]

Here's my new NFL.com article:

Drew Brees playing at the top

By The-Rock

This year, Drew Brees who was drafted lower in his draft than Peyton Manning and Donovan McNabb were in theirs, has thrown for more yards than either of them. In his first year with the New Orleans Saints Brees has thrown for 2,604 yards and 15 touchdowns. It goes without saying that Drew Brees has accumulated better statistics than both Peyton Manning and Donovan McNabb, players who were drafted higher up and were held at a higher regard going into this season. Yep. Brees is throwing for more yards than them. Thats it. Im not implying that he is better or had better value or anything. Nope. Just one person saying another person has been accumulating better stats than those who were supposed to be better than him, but arent statistically better. Yep. All this article is about is how Drew Brees has more passing yards. It isnt even coming close to hinting that he is better than the other QB's that he has better stats then. No way. Your crazy if you think so.

[OWUeagleMD]

Here's my new NFL.com article:

Drew Brees playing at the top

By The-Rock

This year, Drew Brees who was drafted lower in his draft than Peyton Manning and Donovan McNabb were in theirs, has thrown for more yards than either of them. In his first year with the New Orleans Saints Brees has thrown for 2,604 yards and 15 touchdowns. It goes without saying that Drew Brees has accumulated better statistics than both Peyton Manning and Donovan McNabb, players who were drafted higher up and were held at a higher regard going into this season. Yep. Brees is throwing for more yards than them. Thats it. Im not implying that he is better or had better value or anything. Nope. Just one person saying another person has been accumulating better stats than those who were supposed to be better than him, but arent statistically better. Yep. All this article is about is how Drew Brees has more passing yards. It isnt even coming close to hinting that he is better than the other QB's that he has better stats then. No way. Your crazy if you think so.

It seems that you are missing a few points:

The reason the other guys were mentioned is because they all went to the U. Thus Payton Manning, Donovan McNabb, and Drew Brees are not a reasonable analogy. As snide as you sounded in your response, you missed on the clever part you were shooting for because you entirely missed the basis of comparison that the writer began his article with.

Second, rushing yards are a much better statistic to judge a runningback with than are passing yards for a QB. Obviously.

Thirdly, everyone is aware of Drew Brees as a player, and more specifically, what he has done in and for New Orleans this season. Your mock article wouldn't be relavent because everyone already knows. Frank Gore, on the other hand, plays in anonimity because San Francisco is such a forgotten team currently. Using three players, all of whom attended Gore's college, and all of whom are recognizable names, to contextualize Gore's season is a reasonable thing to do. The writer's intent is clear.

It seems you are fighting against this article simply because you feel it slights your boy Clinton Portis.

[The-Rock]

It seems you are fighting against this article simply because you feel it slights your boy Clinton Portis.

You missed my point entirely. The author is stacking all the runningbacks next to each other and giving the impression: Look at high regarded runners Clinton Portis and Willis McGahee, and look they arent doing better than Frank Gore. That implies that Gore is a better runner. Whether they are from Miami or not has nothing to do with it, the author's statement still boils down to: Look at these supposed top tier runningbacks and look who is playing better than them. It isnt so much he is saying Portis and McGahee are bad, but how about mentioning the reason Portis and McGahee have fewer yards. Its hard to run the ball when you screw up your shoulder or your ribs, or now your hand. When you miss entire games or most of them and split carries with a healthier player that sometimes changes your stats just a little tiny bit.

[OWUeagleMD]

You missed my point entirely. The author is stacking all the runningbacks next to each other and giving the impression: Look at high regarded runners Clinton Portis and Willis McGahee, and look they arent doing better than Frank Gore. That implies that Gore is a better runner. Whether they are from Miami or not has nothing to do with it, the author's statement still boils down to: Look at these supposed top tier runningbacks and look who is playing better than them. It isnt so much he is saying Portis and McGahee are bad, but how about mentioning the reason Portis and McGahee have fewer yards. Its hard to run the ball when you screw up your shoulder or your ribs, or now your hand. When you miss entire games or most of them and split carries with a healthier player that sometimes changes your stats just a little tiny bit.

The article is comparing an overlooked player to three high-profile players to contextualize Gore's season.

Rather than saying "for anyone who didn't notice yet, Frank Gore is having a really good season out in San Fran," he instead says "Frank Gore, for those who haven't noticed, is actually outperforming three guys that everyone in the league considers top-tier players."

He uses them as a basis for comparison. It is a sign of respect to those other players. Writers do this alllllllllllllll the time.

[Who Del]

Gore has the best last name in football. Think of how many headlines can come out of his last name?

Gore-y Sunday for the Lions: San Fran RB rushes for X amount of yards
Gore-fest: San Fran RB sets highest total rushing mark in NFL history. Scary!

[EnFoRcEr_uPu]

This is his second year in the league and he is outrushing these other players in their prime. Gore will only get better, right now he is on pace to get 1500+ yards. Just because Gore wasnt a 1st round pick doesnt mean he isnt talented. He is outplaying all those players this year, and its only his second year in the league. I am not saying he will be better then the other 3 but right now it looks like he definately has the potential to.

The point I was making is the other 3 have injuries(especially CP), and Edge has crap for an O-line(not that SF is much better). But as for being a 1st round pick, that was never mentioned. Portis was the 51st pick.

[jpyaks3]

The point I was making is the other 3 have injuries(especially CP), and Edge has crap for an O-line(not that SF is much better). But as for being a 1st round pick, that was never mentioned. Portis was the 51st pick.

Well Gore is on pace to beat Mcgahee's best season, and be similar to Portis's in terms of yards, around 1500. He also has better YPC then all 3 and the only one that is close to him in YPC is Portis during his Denver days when he had 5.5 YPC, since he has come to Washington he hasnt been close to that number. Slipped my mind that Portis was picked mid second, but neverless he is playing better then these high profile guys, and although they are injured his stats are pretty close to the other 3's in their primes.

[skins84]

If he were never injured Gore would easily be mentioned with Ege, Mgahee and CP. You are obviously mis-informed. He woulda been a 1st round pick just like those guys. He's every bit as talented as them and that's why Cp and Mgahee were behind him on the depth chart at Miami until he got injured.

Look at SF's O line, arguably one of the worst in the NFL and Gore is getting the job done. He has a great YPC.

Now look at Edge who is having a terrible year without the benefit of playing for the colts.

Give Gore his props! This guy had 2 ACL injuries and is finally getting to show his talent.

-And this is coming from a FSU fan.

[scyber]

Now if only he didn't have 4 lost fumbles this year....

[ratbert_rizzo]

I'm pretty sure Gore is better than McGahee and James right now. Portis I'm biased on and not sure cuz the Skins don't know how to use him correctly. Gore is an absolute beast and doesn't have that many carries because they are always behind. He is averaging 5 yards a carry and last year he averaged 4.8 a carry. The Niners line has been awful this year out of talent and injuries. If you don't recognize then I will be able to get Gore in all 3 fantasy football leagues again in the 6th round and have him dominate. His only problem is that he is small and has some trouble at the goal line.

[REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE]

The title of this thread iz funny.

[RDSKNfaithfull]

http://nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9800358

This article almost makes me want to laugh...

"Already this season, Gore has piled up 831 yards -- 247 more than James' 584, 252 more than McGahee's 579, and 318 more than Portis' 523."

Now don't get me wrong, I'm certainly not saying that Gore is a nobody. This guy can run, plain and simple. But to compare him to the 3 backs above, let alone talk as if he's above all 3 in talent, is laughable. No mention of the worst O-line in football for Edge, or McGahee's broken ribs, or Portis' numerous injuries keeping all 3 from doing much of anything.

Props to Gore, and I wish him a great future, but he's got a ways to go before he can be mentioned with the above(namely Edge and CP).

You are aware Clinton Portis will be the first to tell you Gore was the best back at the U when him and Willis were there. He was always banged up with major knee problems.

[Mr. S]

First of all, I read the full article, and it's about the running backs of Miami. The headline on nfl.com a few days ago said as such. Schefter was basically talking about the backs of Miami and how Gore is showing to become the next good one.

Next, he compares yardage numbers to the other U backs to show how Gore is performing better thus far.

His overall point is that Gore could become another elite RB on the level of Portis, Edge, and McGahee. Im sure he would be the first to agree that those three are great backs as well.

[jpyaks3]

Frank gore 212 more yards today, broke the 1,000 yrd barrier. Only had 24 rushes too.

[jpyaks3]

Frank Gore NFC Probowler, 1491 rushing yards with 2 games to go, he is leading the league in rushing plays over 20 yards and has the highest YPC out of all starting RB's with 5.5 YPC, maybe there is a reason Schefter praised Gore. He is having the best sophmore season out of any of the Miami runningbacks, with the exception of maybe Portis and that would only be because of his TD's, but he ran in a system that is notorious for RB's putitng up huge numbers. Gore is a beast and is here to stay. For all of those who dont get to see him run week in and out here is a good little highlight clip of some of his runs from this year. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lygU_rJ3Fu0&eurl=

[Die Hard]

He caught my eye last year when we killed the 49ers.... but Gore pulled off a couple of impressive runs including a VERY long touchdown run. I didn't know he had that kind of ability..... but the speed was impressive. So I can't say I'm surprised.

That Norwood guy from Atlanta too.... I think he's going to develop into a good one.

[jpyaks3]

He caught my eye last year when we killed the 49ers.... but Gore pulled off a couple of impressive runs including a VERY long touchdown run. I didn't know he had that kind of ability..... but the speed was impressive. So I can't say I'm surprised.

That Norwood guy from Atlanta too.... I think he's going to develop into a good one.

Norwood has definately shown some flashes, I think he definately has the potential to develop into something real good. My favorite runningback from last year was DeAngelo Williams, he has had kind of an up and down season with injuries and splitting time but I think he could be real good as well.

[jpyaks3]

Gore ends the season with 1695 rushing yards, the NFC rushing title, a 5.4 YPC which leads all starting runningbacks, 485 recieving yards, 9 total touchdowns, 19 plays of 20 yards or more, is it fair to say that he may be the best runningback to come out of Miami?

[jrockster21]

You are aware Clinton Portis will be the first to tell you Gore was the best back at the U when him and Willis were there. He was always banged up with major knee problems.


A buddy on my rugby team was always talking up Gore, saying this year was the year and all that when he was at Miami, but he kept getting injured. Now that his injury issues are behind him, he's going to continue to dominate.

[Fergasun]

Frank Gore's nickname? Aptly enough, "Inconvenient Truth"....

[TSmithTheReal#36]

, is it fair to say that he may be the best runningback to come out of Miami?

Way to early for that talk it was only 1 season :doh:

Gore's First 2 Seasons
608 Yds 3 td
1695 Yds 8 td

Portis
1508 Yds 15 td
1591 Yds 14 td

Edge
1553 Yds 13 td
1709 Yds 13 td