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GSF
November-30th-2006, 10:45 PM
With all of the talk about the Skins turnaround, the articles, and so on, there hasn't been alot of talk about Campbell. This kid is for real, and the players believe in him. I think the inpired play we saw from the whole team last Sunday was as much about Campbell's presence as it was about the article, Gibbs' meeting with the team, or anything else. The players, especially the oline, are rallying around JC and raising their games.

Now, we've got 5 games to go, and we probably have to win them all to get the playoffs. Hmm something feels familiar here, and our next 2 games are at home against 2 struggling teams.

I think we'll see inspired play from here on out. Gibbs is going to take back control of his team, and the players believe they have a chance again with Campbell in there. Will they run they table? I don't know, the Saints in New Orleans is looking like a pretty tough game right now. This is though, the beginning of the turnaround and getting back to greatness.

Despite all of the doom and gloom, and all the whining about the team needing a GM, the Skins are not near as bad off as many believe. Our first rounder will probably be used on the dline, and the team will look for veteran, blue collar FAs to add to the oline and secondary.

Next offseason, Gibbs will go back to his roots of physical, tough training camps, and the team will finally learn the whole offense. Campbell will have the whole camp as the #1 QB, and he and the Redskins will come back for the 07 season ready to go.

This is the beginning of an era, and it all starts with Campbell. This is going to be fun.

jferraro
November-30th-2006, 10:52 PM
let's wait til we get to 7-7

Guy_53
November-30th-2006, 11:00 PM
If they play out their string, like last Sunday they have a shot at a wildcard.

grhqofb5
November-30th-2006, 11:00 PM
With all of the talk about the Skins turnaround

Who is calling it a turnaround? I've heard a couple voices out there saying last week was a small step in the right direction, but no one has indicated that this team is turned around.

3sbs3diffqbs
November-30th-2006, 11:03 PM
With all of the talk about the Skins turnaround, the articles, and so on, there hasn't been alot of talk about Campbell.
Are you kidding? Campbell has received the most positive response from a 118 yard performance I have ever seen. No one has seriously criticized him. All posts I have read anoint him as the second coming (or as you put it in your post title, the messiah who will lead us to the promised land), or if they're feeling grouchy that day, at least call him decent to good. Campbell has more than enough support. Don't worry.

DoGood28
November-30th-2006, 11:49 PM
It's at least a comforting thought of Campbell going through all of training camp next year as the starter. It should really help his growth.

parchy
November-30th-2006, 11:52 PM
The guy is no Tony Romo, I know that...

grhqofb5
November-30th-2006, 11:57 PM
The guy is no Tony Romo, I know that...

And tony romo is no Tom Brady or Nich Lachey.

Chris Worthy
December-1st-2006, 12:00 AM
The guy is no Tony Romo, I know that...

And tony romo is not Troy ethier, cowboys fan. :)

grhqofb5
December-1st-2006, 12:08 AM
And tony romo is not Troy ethier, cowboys fan. :)

Closer to Danny White..... In a related matter, I hear Dexter Manley is available to knock the **** out of Tony Romo and leave his semi-conscious body/corpse lying on the 30 yard line at FedEx field. Dexter? Is that you?

fuji869
December-1st-2006, 12:16 AM
I am excited as any Redskin Fan with the Start of Jason Campbell's Redskin Career but it is kind of early to label him the messiah for the Redskins.

REDSKINS3000
December-1st-2006, 12:31 AM
Closer to Danny White..... In a related matter, I hear Dexter Manley is available to knock the **** out of Tony Romo and leave his semi-conscious body/corpse lying on the 30 yard line at FedEx field. Dexter? Is that you?

:applause: :applause: :applause: :cheers:

909997
December-1st-2006, 12:34 AM
we are going to miami?

MeNoRevs
December-1st-2006, 12:49 AM
You know we say the same thing every year?

Lombardi's_kid_brother
December-1st-2006, 12:58 AM
We're still 4-7.

Aghar
December-1st-2006, 07:10 AM
One game does not make a turnaround. I loved to see this team inspired but was disappointed it didn't come in Campbell's first start vs. Tampa. The defense laid yet another egg in that game. Why play inpired for a kid in his second start and not first? One word : Gibbs. :2cents:

ldysknzfn1
December-1st-2006, 07:28 AM
The guy is no Tony Romo, I know that...

It pains me to see this kind of post.....brainwashed already huh? It makes you want to:puke:

goldenster95
December-1st-2006, 09:10 AM
Let's hope it doesn't take the 40 years that it took the other folks to reach the Promised Land.

MartinC
December-1st-2006, 09:34 AM
We will find out a lot on Sunday.

The Falcs have a very good run D but struggle versus the pass. I have no doubt we will still try to establish the run but Campbell and the play calling is probably going to have to be more agressive than was the case against Carolina to move the ball and put up points versus Atlanta.

Of course if our defence plays as well as it did last week we can afford to be a touch more conservative but if the same D that turned up the previous 10 weeks is in town Campbell will have an opportunity to put the ball in the air.

We are a better all round football team than Atlanta - provided our D has its game face on we win.

kwitt
December-1st-2006, 09:42 AM
We're still 4-7.
The original post clearly states that his optimism is pointed at 2007.

skinfan2k
December-1st-2006, 09:43 AM
The original post clearly states that his optimism is pointed at 2007.

it clearly shows that most of the people want to respond without reading the post and just based on the title

CaptChaos86
December-1st-2006, 09:45 AM
The guy is no Tony Romo, I know that...

your right hes way better. i dont care about Romo stats or any of that crap. Romo is 4-1 and guess who that one loss was to???? thats right the skins. I think jason campbell will become a great quarterback. Romo will wish he could be as good as campbell.:dallasuck

Jerrod6002
December-1st-2006, 09:50 AM
The guy is no Tony Romo, I know that...

Remember this is Tony Romo's 4 year in the league and he has been in the same system for that entire time. Enough with the he's no Romo.

While I don't think Jason has been the "Messiah" I do believe he has shown promise and poise.


Let's not compare apples and orange's

cphil006
December-1st-2006, 09:58 AM
he's solid, but nothing fantastic yet.

take away Cooley's 66 yard TD catch and he passed for 50 yards...

skinfan2k
December-1st-2006, 09:59 AM
romo is the real deal.. the nfc east i believe have found their qbs of the future..

GSF
December-1st-2006, 01:47 PM
The original post clearly states that his optimism is pointed at 2007.
Correct and thanks. Man, this place sure is cynical these days.

The Full Monty
December-1st-2006, 01:53 PM
With all of the talk about the Skins turnaround, the articles, and so on, there hasn't been alot of talk about Campbell. This kid is for real, and the players believe in him. I think the inpired play we saw from the whole team last Sunday was as much about Campbell's presence as it was about the article, Gibbs' meeting with the team, or anything else. The players, especially the oline, are rallying around JC and raising their games.

Now, we've got 5 games to go, and we probably have to win them all to get the playoffs. Hmm something feels familiar here, and our next 2 games are at home against 2 struggling teams.
I feel that same kind of excitement - that same kind of hope - but right now it's not a very credible hope - if we beat Atlanta - the hope becomes credible. It shows that we can take care of business for two weeks straight and that confidence will get us through the Philly game, which honestly minus McNabb is looking like a chance to make some waves in the playoff hunt.

Still, playoffs or not 2007 will be a very exciting year.

NAILBOMB9
December-1st-2006, 01:57 PM
Who is calling it a turnaround? I've heard a couple voices out there saying last week was a small step in the right direction, but no one has indicated that this team is far from being turned around.Nice post!!

roanoker
December-1st-2006, 02:00 PM
GSF liked your post. Not in agreement with the title though. It's going to take more than JC. Mainly the D.

kevin11
December-1st-2006, 02:15 PM
he's solid, but nothing fantastic yet.

take away Cooley's 66 yard TD catch and he passed for 50 yards...

TRUE, but that's the same for Mcnabb and all the other "great" quarterbacks. That is one thing I hate about QB stats, The shuffle pass that went to portis went for 77 yards, so that gave Brunell 77 yards. Or a screen that goes for 80..
We need Tana in this game to be himself.

Dan T.
December-1st-2006, 02:27 PM
Sorry, it's too early for me to consider Jason the franchise savior, though I am optimistic about his NFL future based on the very little we've seen of him. His poise, his apparent unflappability, his arm strength, his ability to avoid pocket pressure bode well for the future. But the jury's still out on his accuracy and how he'll hold up over the long haul of a full season.

I am so glad he's finally getting real game experience. Looking ahead to 2007, he'll have nearly half a season of games under his belt coming into camp, which should give him great confidence.

As for this year, who knows, maybe it'll be deja vu all over again and they get on a 5-game roll, with JC riding the wave!

DieselPwr44
December-1st-2006, 02:39 PM
he's solid, but nothing fantastic yet.

take away Cooley's 66 yard TD catch and he passed for 50 yards...
You sound like Cowboy fans who say "Yeah Portis had 150 yards rushing but if you take out that 60 yard run..."

So Campbell making a good throw on time and Cooley catching it in stride to run for the TD now counts as bad against him??

Well, you really do see everything at ExtremeSkins.........:doh:

Geoff_K
December-1st-2006, 02:52 PM
I would not put him to that status until he wins us 15 or 20 games with very few losses mixed in.

illone
December-1st-2006, 02:59 PM
I've been so emotionally beat up by this team, GSF, I refuse to buy into ANYTHING as being a turn around until I see it first hand. Too much heartache with this team to take one modest win and take anything from it.

As far as I am concerned the Skins still suck until further notice.

GSF
December-1st-2006, 03:36 PM
I've been so emotionally beat up by this team, GSF, I refuse to buy into ANYTHING as being a turn around until I see it first hand. Too much heartache with this team to take one modest win and take anything from it.

As far as I am concerned the Skins still suck until further notice.

Ill,

Sure the first half of this season has been rough, but the last half of last season was incredible, and there's no reason to believe that the team can't get back to that level and exceed it.

Truthfully, it was foolish of us to think that the Skins were going to come in and win a bunch of games this season, The new offense, new players, the injury to Portis, but most importantly, we knew that Brunell was going to be a problem.

The uninspired play we've seen this season was due to the lack of belief on the part of the players and a big part of that was b/c of Brunell. If we knew deep down that Brunell was done, how do you think the players felt?

I think the team has gained a lot of confidence beating Carolina, and I think they're believing again b/c of Jason's performance. We might not run the table, but the team is going to end the season on a high note and take that momentum into the offseason and next year.

EersSkins05
December-1st-2006, 04:23 PM
Man, this board runs the full range of emotions.

bbuzz1962
December-1st-2006, 06:50 PM
The guy is no Tony Romo, I know that...

Thank god for that you cowpuke. Who wants Romo the homo anyway? Who the hell beat Romo? The Skins, and that was with the worst quarterback in the league. So go figure uh?

bbuzz1962
December-1st-2006, 06:56 PM
For those with the wait and see attitude. I think what your missing from JC supporters is just the way the quarterback position is now being handled. We still have issues that we need to address. The thing that we have noticed is that there is a swagger at the quarterback position that was missing all season.


Brunell just had that I know something bad is going to happen soon aura around him. You just knew he was going to do something, or in most cases not do anything good to help the team win.

JC just has that relaxed, attitude that great quarterbacks need. He may not make something happen on several drives, then bam! A 66 yard dart to Cooley to win the game!. You know we were missing that with Brunell. He had three memorable passes in three years. 2 were in Dallas last season, and 1 was this season against Jacksonville. Hey, 3 good passes in 3 years, that's worth about 45 million. What do you think??

redskin81
December-1st-2006, 08:05 PM
We need to win a few more before we start talking like this.

skinfan2k
December-1st-2006, 08:07 PM
For those with the wait and see attitude. I think what your missing from JC supporters is just the way the quarterback position is now being handled. We still have issues that we need to address. The thing that we have noticed is that there is a swagger at the quarterback position that was missing all season.


Brunell just had that I know something bad is going to happen soon aura around him. You just knew he was going to do something, or in most cases not do anything good to help the team win.

JC just has that relaxed, attitude that great quarterbacks need. He may not make something happen on several drives, then bam! A 66 yard dart to Cooley to win the game!. You know we were missing that with Brunell. He had three memorable passes in three years. 2 were in Dallas last season, and 1 was this season against Jacksonville. Hey, 3 good passes in 3 years, that's worth about 45 million. What do you think??

wow.. excellent post.. thats what im talking about.. swagger

bulldog
December-1st-2006, 08:14 PM
Campbell has played two games in which he has had no Portis and Moss at far less than 100%. And off of that people are going to make judgments about him beyond what we see on the field, ie what he COULD do in the future? :laugh:

let's give Campbell the same weapons healthy that Brunell had in 2005 during their run and then let's evaluate Jason by the same yardstick :D

GSF
December-1st-2006, 10:33 PM
For those with the wait and see attitude. I think what your missing from JC supporters is just the way the quarterback position is now being handled. We still have issues that we need to address. The thing that we have noticed is that there is a swagger at the quarterback position that was missing all season.


Brunell just had that I know something bad is going to happen soon aura around him. You just knew he was going to do something, or in most cases not do anything good to help the team win.

JC just has that relaxed, attitude that great quarterbacks need. He may not make something happen on several drives, then bam! A 66 yard dart to Cooley to win the game!. You know we were missing that with Brunell. He had three memorable passes in three years. 2 were in Dallas last season, and 1 was this season against Jacksonville. Hey, 3 good passes in 3 years, that's worth about 45 million. What do you think??

Yes! You understand what I'm talking about.

DonMagicJuan
December-1st-2006, 11:33 PM
The guy is no Tony Romo, I know that...

yeah...Jason's better....bottom line...118 yards or 811 yards....hes still the QB that will win us a SUPERBOWL...and i never say crap like that...im the last one to say things like that...hold me to it tho...

:helmet:

:logo:

georgiaredskin
December-2nd-2006, 11:29 AM
If we're going to the Promised Land, doesn't that make JC our Moses?

Gibbs is Moses. He had to get Gregg Williams to "Let his people go" first.

Redskins4ever
December-2nd-2006, 12:29 PM
A lot of what's gone wrong was because of Mark Brunell. Brunell has proven that he's a back up QB at best and his best days as an NFL quarterback are behind him. Jason Campbell should have gotten reps during the Colts game but Gibbs stuck with Brunell.

Campbell is only going to get better and better.

tonyriggins
December-3rd-2006, 04:40 AM
Campbell is not accurate enough yet. Another thing he is NOT as mobile as people are making him out to be!

SkinsFTW
December-3rd-2006, 05:23 AM
And to think back 2 weeks when everybody said the season was over and they just wanted to see Campbell start some games and get experience. :D

We've only won 1 game since he got bumped up. Chill people.

The Falcons are coming here with redemption in mind and this game today will not be easy. I would not be suprised to see us lose this one. If we win it will probably be because the defense stepped up again, not because of Campbell.

skinsmania123
December-3rd-2006, 06:47 AM
Really until we win the next 3 games I am not thinking playoffs or Messiah...look over at Dallas, Romo has already been dubbed the second coming...not sure what we are going to call Campbell if he is as good..

smitty71
December-3rd-2006, 07:20 AM
he's solid, but nothing fantastic yet.

take away Cooley's 66 yard TD catch and he passed for 50 yards...

Why take it away? I never understand why people say these things. BIG plays are a part of football. Every week, players around the week make big plays, it is what 's supposed to happen. If JC didn;t make the play then people would say, "Aww, he just threw short passes for 55 yards. Why don't they go deep?"

I know what you are trying to say but enoy the BIG plays when they come! :)

Longbomb
December-3rd-2006, 08:08 AM
"Messiah" Are you kidding? He's at best an upgrade over MB because of his youth. He has promise but he's not McNabb, McNair, Peyton Manning(thought I'd throw Peyton in there to confuse you). He's had two lackluster games. He has played OK at best...that's it. There is nothing brilliant about what he's done. Could I do it?...no. Then again I haven't played football my whole life. He's going to be a good QB, remember Troy Aikman's first year, Peyton Manning's first year? They sucked. JC is ahead of that curve because Gibbs is smart enough to not throw a young QB to the wolves. I hope he'll be a GREAT QB ...for us. But he's no messiah yet.:)

GSF
December-3rd-2006, 08:23 AM
"Messiah" Are you kidding? He's at best an upgrade over MB because of his youth. He has promise but he's not McNabb, McNair, Peyton Manning(thought I'd throw Peyton in there to confuse you). He's had two lackluster games. He has played OK at best...that's it. There is nothing brilliant about what he's done. Could I do it?...no. Then again I haven't played football my whole life. He's going to be a good QB, remember Troy Aikman's first year, Peyton Manning's first year? They sucked. JC is ahead of that curve because Gibbs is smart enough to not throw a young QB to the wolves. I hope he'll be a GREAT QB ...for us. But he's no messiah yet.:)

No, I'm not kidding. Campbell's first 2 games were better then those of the QBs you listed. Don't know why you thought you would confuse me by listing Peyton, but you didn't and there's no need to act like an arse.

I was talking about the future, not this season. I don't think we're going to the superbowl this year, but I think Gibbs and Campbell will get us there eventually, and I think the team will finish this season strong.

spagolli94
December-3rd-2006, 11:22 AM
Are you kidding? Campbell has received the most positive response from a 118 yard performance I have ever seen.

And don't forget, if it wasn't for the pass to Cooley, he would have ended up with 60-something yards. I can see talent & potential, but he has a long way to go.

SkinsFanAnt
December-3rd-2006, 11:24 AM
Ok..ok..before the hype and predictions ala COWBOY FAN...remember that anything can happen. He could get hurt. We could get Brady James or Troy Smith or Chad Henne. He could tank in the next several games.

However, I think he IS definitely promising and is a MAJOR upgrade from Brunnel.

Lets not get him to TONY ROMO STATUS THOUGH.........PLEASE!
Its disgusting that the Cowpuke fans are comparing him to their HOF QBs. Not even TOM BRADY is or was, SWEATED this hard and he's led his team to 3 SBs. All I have to say is the bigger they are the harder they fall.

And JC needs to win some more games first, and hopefully push for a playoff situation next year. HE ONLY HAS 1 WIN. LETS NOT JUMP THE GUN PLEASE!

SkinsFanAnt
December-3rd-2006, 11:31 AM
BTW....WHY IS IT THAT NFL FANS SWEAT the QB so much? I mean, look at VICK. He was to be the Falcon's SB QB. But the team has disentigrated due to injuries. A talented QB on a bad or injured team means this: NO PLAYOFFS, NO SB, LOOK TO NEXT YEAR.

A MEDIOCRE QB on a GOOD TEAM may win you a SB or 2.

Baltimore Ravens/Trent Dilfer
Tampa Bay Bucs/Brad Johnson

SkinsFTW
December-3rd-2006, 04:19 PM
I guess he isn't the Messiah anymore. Maybe next year.

IHOPSkins
December-3rd-2006, 05:29 PM
.....Campbell is only going to get better and better.

Heres HOPING

carter23
December-3rd-2006, 06:01 PM
why do a select few of redskins fans want to see Campbell fail so badly? just so they can come on this forum and say "i told you so?" brunell deserves 99% of the criticism, face it. I wish we were 8-4 with him still starting, but things didn't work out and he clearly needed to be benched. Get over it and root for our(?) quarterback

why can't people accept the fact that people are excited about JC? I don't really get it

IHOPSkins
December-3rd-2006, 06:14 PM
]...brunell deserves 99% of the criticism.....[/color]

You are so right (sarcasm)

Maybe its JC jock sniffers that need more REASON?

I will call what I see

JC took a step back today

I wanted to see him in for the Colts game (for the record)

But If I wanted a GUNSLINGER to "WIN a Game" I would still be cheering for Ramsey

BRAVEONAWARPATH
December-4th-2006, 10:47 AM
But If I wanted a GUNSLINGER to "WIN a Game" I would still be cheering for Ramsey
If I wanted a QB to just "MANAGE a Game", I would still be cheering
for Brunell.

IHOPSkins
December-4th-2006, 12:01 PM
If I wanted a QB to just "MANAGE a Game", I would still be cheering
for Brunell.

Run first....defend the run...and DON"T TURN THE BALL OVER

Its the Philosophy....and what got Ramsey canned

JC needs to get with the PROGRAM

I want a Manager...that will WIN games when needed

But first.....you should learn how not to LOSE games (turnovers)

SkinFan63
December-4th-2006, 12:58 PM
If they play out their string, like last Sunday they have a shot at a wildcard.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
Not gonna happen.
Sorry.

tone_dubbz
December-5th-2006, 12:16 PM
not anytime soon.

pjfootballer
December-5th-2006, 02:42 PM
I promised myself I'd get some land some day. But alas I can't afford it.