Does anyone keep records on 95 yard plus TD drives allowed

[Burgold]

If so, we are going to obliterate that record. How many times have we pinned a team back only to see them march or soar down the field. Right now, I think the only time we've held them after pinning themselves inside the five was the Dallas safety. This drives me crazy. We allow one or two of these per game!!

Also, I didn't see anything on the first page about Santana's first catch that was ruled out of bounds. FOX never showed a replay. It looked like his knee was down in bounds when I was watching it live. Does anyone no if it was a catch or not?

[TheLongshot]

Also, I didn't see anything on the first page about Santana's first catch that was ruled out of bounds. FOX never showed a replay. It looked like his knee was down in bounds when I was watching it live. Does anyone no if it was a catch or not?

They showed the replay in the stadium. I don't think it would have been overturned.

Jason

[kevinklein]

They keep records for everything. Someone is probably digging through the archives as we speak.

[grhqofb5]

If the object of the game was to give up as many long, time consuming, morale obliterating touchdown drives as possible, this team would be going to the Super Bowl.

[Burgold]

If the object of the game was to give up as many long, time consuming, morale obliterating touchdown drives as possible, this team would be going to the Super Bowl.

Well, at least yesterday's wasn't time-consuming :doh: I don't know what is worse. This year's tendency to permit a 90% third down success rate to our opponents or our tendency to make all-time highlight plays for our opponents. That run may be shown in Atlanta for twenty years. We made the guy look like Barry Sanders.

[Real Deal]

I have thought the same thing the entire football season. It actually has been going on for a couple of seasons however. This season it seems like it takes place alot more. We get a great punt and down it within the five yard line and the opponent marches right down the field. I think that we should just let the ball go into the end zone from now on for a touchback. That way the opponents will have a lesser chance of scoring. I just don't understand why on Earth we give up so many long drives. It is sickening to watch. How many times have we scored when we are pinned back to the end zone? Probably none. It is sooo hard to be a fan of this team. Heartbreak city!! But you just keep hoping that it will turn around. We had no business losing this game yesterday after the way we came out and took control. I was very impressed... but that was only the first quarter. The horror!

[Leonard Washington]

This year's tendency to permit a 90% third down success rate to our opponents or our tendency to make all-time highlight plays for our opponents. That run may be shown in Atlanta for twenty years. We made the guy look like Barry Sanders.

it wasn't that bad. i remember last season when priest holmes ran across the field after catching a screen pass and broke about 11 tackles in the route to the game winning TD.

[Brandon Lloyd Christmas]

we lost cause we gave up huge plays. i enjoy "redskins football" IE: pound the ball, play action pass, great defense. but all of the redskins 9+ play drives mean nothing when a team can turn around and go 95 yards in a few plays. the second i heard Sean Springs was inactive, i knew we'd lose. Kenny Wright CANNOT play man coverage against ANYBODY. i dont care how bad a WR you are, you WILL torch kenny wright. the guy is great in nickel/dime packages playing zone, i feel good when hes occupying a portion of the field, but man to man, my god is he horrendous.

[tennisacerg]

yeah, no joke, our defense doesn't even try unless the game is close or the opponent is about to score

[Burgold]

And that may be the reason why, though he is a good coach and most of us want consistency, Williams may need to be axed. His d does not fight for him. They play without fight or concentration.

[TheLongshot]

And that may be the reason why, though he is a good coach and most of us want consistency, Williams may need to be axed. His d does not fight for him. They play without fight or concentration.

Sorry, but they did fight very hard. Except for the couple of big plays, they pretty much stoned Atlanta. Vick didn't really beat the Skins in the air or on the ground, and Dunn didn't really have a great game.

BTW, Atlanta was under 50% for 3rd down conversions.

Jason

[pjfootballer]

I never have confidence in our D when we down the ball inside the 10. As soon as Jimoh touched it, I said to my wife, here they go...99 yards for a TD. I NEVER get excited when someone downs it inside the 10. Shame, because Frost has gotten better every week at doing that. It's just ho hum for me. We all know what's coming.

That goes back to the killer instinct, the foot on the throat mentality. We don't have it. Gibbs has never had it. He always shows too much courtesy to the other team. Even when the Skins were good in the 80's and early 90's, If we went up by more than 2 scores, he'd start running it. Luckily we had the players to make plays.

The only time I've ever seen it, was a Monday night game against the Iggels and we were up 20-0 and he kicked a FG with no time left because he was pissed at Buddy Ryan.

[Burgold]

Sorry, but they did fight very hard. Except for the couple of big plays, they pretty much stoned Atlanta. Vick didn't really beat the Skins in the air or on the ground, and Dunn didn't really have a great game.

BTW, Atlanta was under 50% for 3rd down conversions.

Jason

Could be just my perception, but the way I saw the game was first half-- good defense, second half horrible defense. Also, with zero turnovers, we only forced four punts for the entire game.

[Passizle]

we lost cause we gave up huge plays. i enjoy "redskins football" IE: pound the ball, play action pass, great defense. but all of the redskins 9+ play drives mean nothing when a team can turn around and go 95 yards in a few plays. the second i heard Sean Springs was inactive, i knew we'd lose. Kenny Wright CANNOT play man coverage against ANYBODY. i dont care how bad a WR you are, you WILL torch kenny wright. the guy is great in nickel/dime packages playing zone, i feel good when hes occupying a portion of the field, but man to man, my god is he horrendous.

Me too! When I saw SS on the sidelines, my heart sank. I dont know if its possible, but we should have had Randle El play CB. The guy has moves and plays hard. Anyone but Wright. Wright cant cover himself with a blanket at bedtime.:laugh:

[Passizle]

Sorry, but they did fight very hard. Except for the couple of big plays, they pretty much stoned Atlanta. Vick didn't really beat the Skins in the air or on the ground, and Dunn didn't really have a great game.

BTW, Atlanta was under 50% for 3rd down conversions.

Jason

R U High. They rushed for 256 yards against us. Oh yeah! They did not beat us on the ground.:doh:
8-16 122 py 2 TD's. They did not beat us in the air.:doh:

Wright got smoked and so did our run D. There were so many times I was screaming at the TV about the missed tackles. When Vick juked like 3defenders and broke 6 tackles to get that first down, he was 3rd and 15. How does anyone (even Vick) do that? That was luckily called back by a questionable holding call but come on! You have to tackle the guy. Take his legs out if you have to. I am so sick of the weak ass one arm tackles that ALWAYS miss. Our guys have forgotten their fundamentals.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

Sorry, but they did fight very hard. Except for the couple of big plays, they pretty much stoned Atlanta. Vick didn't really beat the Skins in the air or on the ground, and Dunn didn't really have a great game.

BTW, Atlanta was under 50% for 3rd down conversions.

Jason

We stoned Atlanta?

Do you realize that on Dunn's "not-so-great" day, he still ended up with 87 yards at a 4.1 per carry clip? Nearly every team in the league would be more than happy with a performance like that out of their starter. You do that for 16 games, you end up with nearly 1400 yards.

And he was the second leading rusher on the team yesterday!!!!

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

BTW, Atlanta was under 50% for 3rd down conversions.



They were at 41.7 percent. They would finish 8th in the NFL at 3rd down conversions at that clip. They went into the game converting at a 34.3 percent clip.

So, even on a supposed good day, we made a team 8 percent better than they normally are.

[TheLongshot]

Do you realize that on Dunn's "not-so-great" day, he still ended up with 87 yards at a 4.1 per carry clip? Nearly every team in the league would be more than happy with a performance like that out of their starter. You do that for 16 games, you end up with nearly 1400 yards.

And he was the second leading rusher on the team yesterday!!!!

Take away the two garbage rushes at the end of the half, and he comes down to 3.8 yards a carry

It isn't like he was continually getting first downs on us. Mostly, he'd occationally get a big gain, and get stoned later on.


They were at 41.7 percent. They would finish 8th in the NFL at 3rd down conversions at that clip. They went into the game converting at a 34.3 percent clip.

So, even on a supposed good day, we made a team 8 percent better than they normally are.

And ours was about the same. What was the difference? Oh yeah, we turned the ball over.

Jason

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

Take away the two garbage rushes at the end of the half, and he comes down to 3.8 yards a carry

It isn't like he was continually getting first downs on us. Mostly, he'd occationally get a big gain, and get stoned later on.



And ours was about the same. What was the difference? Oh yeah, we turned the ball over.

Jason

And we generated zero turnovers.

The fact that this team cannot overcome any turnovers is really depressing.

[Burgold]

Two consecutive ninety yard first half drives allowed in the Giants' game drove me nuts. Sadly, I think they were trying. They looked like they were hustling too, so, what is it and can it be fixed? I did note when the game caller was questioning why we never changed up the d to challenge the run...

[DCMONEY]

As soon as the special team downed the ball inside the five. I told my buddy it doesn't matter. Their still about to march right down. And thats just what happened. They did the same BS in the Falcons game.

[jimster]

One thing I am aware of, Vernon Fox had one tackle in the whole game. 2 of Barber's long TD runs started with Vernon Fox bouncing off him at the line of scrimmage like Barber was wearing Vernon repellent. He also bit badly on play action on that red zone TD pass.

For all the things said about Archuleta around here, at least he can tackle, just not from the sidelines.

2 TD's in St. Louis and 2 TD's against the Giants were compliments of Fox's inabilty to tackle.

What's amazing is how much Williams had Fox playing close to the line of scrimmage last night. Well, guess who is pretty good at that?

[tr1]

Do you mean referee-assisted 95 yard drives?

[Burgold]

True, but even so... they happened so often this year.

[Wow_we_actually_won]

Well, I'll put it in a nutshell for you. It's simple really. Redskins are great at getting teams in 3rd and long. 3rd and 10, 3rd and 18, hell 3rd and 25. Unfortunately, they are even better at giving up the first down.

How many times this year have we seen a 3rd and 25 in a crucial stop situation in the second half. No way on earth anyone gets a first down on 3rd and 25. If it was the Redskins on 3rd and 25, we would run a gut play to set up a punt. We would not even TRY to pass it because God knows, we can't "risk" an interception.

But no, 3rd and 25 on against the skins and you could pretty much expect to see a wide receiver running wide open (by this I mean no defender with 10 yards) across the middle for the easy first down.

I watched plays where as the receiver caught the ball for the impossibly long first, you could not even see a Redskins defender within the television frame.

I mean, who the hell gives up the 1st on 3rd and 25? - CONSISTENTLY?

What do I blame? Horrible defensive scheme. On top of that pyramid, GW allowing his corners to play 10-15 yards off receivers. It hasn't worked all season - no one else in the NFL does it, yet GW seems, for some psychotic reason to like it.

Who knows?

[Sticksboi05]

it wasn't that bad. i remember last season when priest holmes ran across the field after catching a screen pass and broke about 11 tackles in the route to the game winning TD.

Oh god, don't remind us!

[Sticksboi05]

Well, I'll put it in a nutshell for you. It's simple really. Redskins are great at getting teams in 3rd and long. 3rd and 10, 3rd and 18, hell 3rd and 25. Unfortunately, they are even better at giving up the first down.

How many times this year have we seen a 3rd and 25 in a crucial stop situation in the second half. No way on earth anyone gets a first down on 3rd and 25. If it was the Redskins on 3rd and 25, we would run a gut play to set up a punt. We would not even TRY to pass it because God knows, we can't "risk" an interception.

But no, 3rd and 25 on against the skins and you could pretty much expect to see a wide receiver running wide open (by this I mean no defender with 10 yards) across the middle for the easy first down.

I watched plays where as the receiver caught the ball for the impossibly long first, you could not even see a Redskins defender within the television frame.

I mean, who the hell gives up the 1st on 3rd and 25? - CONSISTENTLY?

What do I blame? Horrible defensive scheme. On top of that pyramid, GW allowing his corners to play 10-15 yards off receivers. It hasn't worked all season - no one else in the NFL does it, yet GW seems, for some psychotic reason to like it.

Who knows?

The Packers will forever remember the words "4th and 24 and this is the game."