Romo has fallen to earth

[goldenster95]

He didn't have a particularly good game last week, running up a rating of 58.1. Were it not for a CB with a broken thumb, his numbers would 12/27, 187 yards (a lot of which came on one pass and a prevent like defense), 0 TDs, 3 INTs and a rating of 21.7.

[tr1]

Not a good time of the season to cool off...

[zoony]

Yah, that gift to TO will definitely skew his stats.

His performance last week was questionable as well. And it is important to note that the Giants and Saints are a FAR cry from the Bears and the Ravens on defense.

I think we've seen just about all we're gonna see out of the Cowboys this season. They will get into the playoffs by default, but they won't win a game.

[HeHateMe]

Dammit!

I cant beleive his run is over after 6 games.

Dallas should just mail it in since we all know one game defines a season.

[HeHateMe]

Yah, that gift to TO will definitely skew his stats.

His performance last week was questionable as well. And it is important to note that the Giants and Saints are a FAR cry from the Bears and the Ravens on defense.

I think we've seen just about all we're gonna see out of the Cowboys this season. They will get into the playoffs by default, but they won't win a game.

Come on Zoony, youre better than that.

Amazing what one bad game can do.

[tr1]

Come on Zoony, youre better than that.

Amazing what one bad game can do.

This is an ass whooping....

Why are you here...you should be embarrassed.

[zoony]

Come on Zoony, youre better than that.

Amazing what one bad game can do.



Well there have been a couple of bad games, and I think the fact that he is going against his old offensive coordinator and struggling tells me that SP might very well be laying down the blueprint on how to confuse Romo.

But of course I could be wrong.


As for my playoff prediction... I just don't think good teams get stomped like this going down the stretch.


However, I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is... sig bet for the Cowboy's losing their playoff game? 1 week.

....

[HeHateMe]

This is an ass whooping....

Why are you here...you should be embarrassed.

Because I dont hide when the going gets rough.

Another reason?

Its priceless seeing trolls like yourself turn this game into the Super Bowl for the Cowboys.

The sky is falling. Blah, blah. Really, its quite amusing.

Anything to make yourself feel better about yourself and your team.

[goldenster95]

Dammit!

I cant beleive his run is over after 6 games.

Dallas should just mail it in since we all know one game defines a season.

Please, it's more than just that, doll. Romo is getting exposed this game.

[zoony]

HeHateMe is about the only dallas fan I respect on this board. The fact that he is in here posting during a game like this speaks volumes imho :cheers:



Romo just threw into double coverage... AGAIN. WTF? It's not so much a bad night... it's very questionable decision making. Oh well, maybe it is just a bad game. But maybe not. :)

[HeHateMe]

Well there have been a couple of bad games, and I think the fact that he is going against his old offensive coordinator and struggling tells me that SP might very well be laying down the blueprint on how to confuse Romo.

But of course I could be wrong.


As for my playoff prediction... I just don't think good teams get stomped like this going down the stretch.


However, I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is... sig bet for the Cowboy's losing their playoff game? 1 week.

....

Colts got housed today and I think theyll win a playoff game or two.

As for Dallas, Zimmer got owned by Payton. Something I was a tad concerned about.

Romo couldve played lights out and it wouldve mattered not.

Dallas defense had no answer for Payton's playcalling and New Orleans offense.

Big plays, dink and dunks, whatever, they were owned. Period.

That aint happening again this season. This was the first and last time this season.

If we do end up playing New Orleans again in the playoffs, I assure you it wont be like this.

[tr1]

Because I dont hide when the going gets rough.

Another reason?

Its priceless seeing trolls like yourself turn this game into the Super Bowl for the Cowboys.

The sky is falling. Blah, blah. Really, its quite amusing.

Anything to make yourself feel better about yourself and your team.

Ummm...let's see...you're on a Redskins board, your team is taking a beating worse than the one we gave you here last year, and you're not concerned about your team?

How far from reality can you go.

No concern... :doh:

[HeHateMe]

Please, it's more than just that, doll. Romo is getting exposed this game.

And when either Manning has a bad game?

And Rivers?

The list goes on and on.

Its one game. I know Redskins fans want to make a mountain out of it, but it was bound to happen sometime.

[goldenster95]

Because I dont hide when the going gets rough.

Another reason?

Its priceless seeing trolls like yourself turn this game into the Super Bowl for the Cowboys.

The sky is falling. Blah, blah. Really, its quite amusing.

Anything to make yourself feel better about yourself and your team.

Sorry, but this is why you wait a whole season to make announcements about someone, good, bad, or otherwise. Payton knows Romo inside and out And he's just laid the gameplan on how to play this dude. Keep him contained like you do McNabb and either blitz him or force him to make the strong-armed throws.

[tr1]

If we do end up playing New Orleans again in the playoffs, I assure you it wont be like this.

Whistling in the dark.

Your team is average...look at your record...average.

[HeHateMe]

Ummm...let's see...you're on a Redskins board, your team is taking a beating worse than the one we gave you here last year, and you're not concerned about your team?

How far from reality can you go.

No concern... :doh:

Not at this moment.

Last time I checked, New Orleans isnt on the rest of the regular season schedule.

Payton pitched the equivalent of a perfect game in baseball.

Period.

[goldenster95]

And when either Manning has a bad game?

And Rivers?

The list goes on and on.

Its one game. I know Redskins fans want to make a mountain out of it, but it was bound to happen sometime.

Sorry, but this is game two, toots. And it's called a trend. And the trend ain't too good.

[tr1]

And when either Manning has a bad game?

And Rivers?

The list goes on and on.

Its one game. I know Redskins fans want to make a mountain out of it, but it was bound to happen sometime.

What will your excuse be next week?

[goldenster95]

What will your excuse be next week?

No, that was the excuse last week. The "it was just one game" excuse was the Giants game. Now, it's week two. That excuse doesn't fly today.

[HeHateMe]

Sorry, but this is why you wait a whole season to make announcements about someone, good, bad, or otherwise. Payton knows Romo inside and out And he's just laid the gameplan on how to play this dude. Keep him contained like you do McNabb and either blitz him or force him to make the strong-armed throws.

As I said before, it mattered not how well Romo did or didnt play.

This game was about Payton owning Zimmer.

And if Payton is this good, that just continues to speak volumes about Parcells' continued line of excellent assistants.

[tr1]

Not at this moment.

Last time I checked, New Orleans isnt on the rest of the regular season schedule.

Payton pitched the equivalent of a perfect game in baseball.

Period.

They just dismantled your team at your house...on national TV, no less.

And you pooh-pooh it.

Face reality...you have an average team.

[HeHateMe]

Sorry, but this is game two, toots. And it's called a trend. And the trend ain't too good.

Well, I guess Campbell is a bust since he hasnt even had one game that is near as good as what Romo's had.

[HeHateMe]

They just dismantled your team at your house...on national TV, no less.

And you pooh-pooh it.

Face reality...you have an average team.

And you have?

I understand you hate Dallas more than you love Washington, but Dallas will be in the playoffs.

Deal with it.

This was by far the toughest game of the last four for Dallas.

Please put up if you think any of the remaining games will be like this.

If not, back in your hole.

[Passizle]

Dammit!

I cant beleive his run is over after 6 games.

Dallas should just mail it in since we all know one game defines a season.

Yes you should. Romo is a *****. Just look at his face. He is about to cry!

[tr1]

As I said before, it mattered not how well Romo did or didnt play.


Uh, sure. Now comes the rationalizing...
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Classic.

[goldenster95]

As I said before, it mattered not how well Romo did or didnt play.

This game was about Payton owning Zimmer.

And if Payton is this good, that just continues to speak volumes about Parcells' continued line of excellent assistants.

Wow! You sound like Baghdad Bob.

It's not necessarily about Payton being that good, unless you want to say the same thing about Mr. Meltdown himself last week, Tom Coughlin.

And what's this stupid point about "Parcells' continued line of excellent assistants"? I guess Zimmer is holding up that tradition pretty, huh?

[SkinsHokieFan]

This is going to be the start of another December slide for the Cowboys under Parcells

4 years in a row now

[HeHateMe]

No, that was the excuse last week. The "it was just one game" excuse was the Giants game. Now, it's week two. That excuse doesn't fly today.


By the way, I've never proclaimed Romo as anything on this board as of yet.

I've liked what I've seen thus far. But thats it.

I've intentionally reserved judgment for situations just as this.

I'd like to see how he responds to this.

Thats what everyone else has been asking for. How will he respond to a bad game? To adversity?

Well, we'll see in less than a week.

[goldenster95]

Well, I guess Campbell is a bust since he hasnt even had one game that is near as good as what Romo's had.

I see . . . losing badly at an argument and you switch subjects . . . sorry, doll, but we'll see who's where when the dust settles in a couple of years . . .

[tr1]

And you have?

I understand you hate Dallas more than you love Washington, but Dallas will be in the playoffs.

Deal with it.

This was by far the toughest game of the last four for Dallas.

Please put up if you think any of the remaining games will be like this.

If not, back in your hole.

I never said we didn't have an average team.

You, on the other hand, are having a tough time being objective.

Your team is giving up...check it out.

[HeHateMe]

Wow! You sound like Baghdad Bob.

It's not necessarily about Payton being that good, unless you want to say the same thing about Mr. Meltdown himself last week, Tom Coughlin.

And what's this stupid point about "Parcells' continued line of excellent assistants"? I guess Zimmer is holding up that tradition pretty, huh?

Again, absolutely amazing what one game can do.

Hows that Hall of Fame coaching staff in DC doing?

Wait, stop, why even go there.

[goldenster95]

By the way, I've never proclaimed Romo as anything on this board as of yet.

I've liked what I've seen thus far. But thats it.

I've intentionally reserved judgment for situations just as this.

I'd like to see how he responds to this.

Thats what everyone else has been asking for. How will he respond to a bad game? To adversity?

Well, we'll see in less than a week.

Ummmm . . . maybe you outta brush up on your reading comprehension skills . . . he had some adversity last week . . . and then he lays some egg this week . . . you have your answer, at least for one week . . .

[tr1]

This is going to be the start of another December slide for the Cowboys under Parcells

4 years in a row now

It's very much a trend.

[HeHateMe]

I see . . . losing badly at an argument and you switch subjects . . . sorry, doll, but we'll see who's where when the dust settles in a couple of years . . .

Gee, I've never heard that on this board before.

[tr1]

Again, absolutely amazing what one game can do.

Hows that Hall of Fame coaching staff in DC doing?

Wait, stop, why even go there.

It's okay, man...admit your team is average...we'll still love you...

:laugh: :laugh:

[goldenster95]

Again, absolutely amazing what one game can do.

Hows that Hall of Fame coaching staff in DC doing?

Wait, stop, why even go there.

One game? Hey girly, did the Giants game qualify as a scrimmage during a bye? Are you this daft to somehow skootch past some obvious potholes in what you're masquerading around as reasoning?

And, as for our coaching staff . . . try that coaching staff with a healthy Portis, Springs, and Moss . . .

[HeHateMe]

Ummmm . . . maybe you outta brush up on your reading comprehension skills . . . he had some adversity last week . . . and then he lays some egg this week . . . you have your answer, at least for one week . . .

Adversity?

After having a below average game, he drove his team down the field in one minute on the road in the most important game of the season for the win.

Maybe you should brush up on your definitions.

[HeHateMe]

I've said my peace.

Thanks for listening.

[tr1]

One game? Hey girly, did the Giants game qualify as a scrimmage during a bye? Are you this daft to somehow skootch past some obvious potholes in what you're masquerading around as reasoning?

And, as for our coaching staff . . . try that coaching staff with a healthy Portis, Springs, and Moss . . .

Careful g95, you need to ease him into reality...it's been a difficult night for him...

[Passizle]

Gee, I've never heard that on this board before.

Not for nothing. But I love how I hear so many Cowboo fans booing their own team after one bad game. With fans like that...

You know the rest.

[goldenster95]

Gee, I've never heard that on this board before.

Maybe you outta pay attention.

Lemme make just one thing very clear here: Romo has suprised everyone, not the least of which is probably the bulk of the Cowboys faithful who probably had no idea he'd produce like this for any stretch of time.

But your logic in defending him -- particulary this idiotic notion that it's just one game since this is game two of Romo's Chicken Little escapade -- is laughably off-base.

[desioreo87]

The story of this game is Drew Brees not Tony Romo. Drew Brees absolutely owned the Dallas defense. Sure Romo has had a bad game but he still shows he can get the ball to his playmakers and such. Campbell kinda displayed that this afternoon with his good play in the Second half after a horrid first half. If Romo does this next game then sure jump all over him but as for right now hes trying to shoot it out with Brees so hes taking chances and its leading to bad plays, (also TO is just terrible).

I understand that you guys jump all over Hehateme after the pukes terrible defeat at the hands of Saints but he is clearly a more reasonable and realistic fan than the lot of you are despite being a puke fan. Smack talk is fun and all but at least respect others' serious opinions and look at them in an objective view.

[tr1]

I'm afraid he's taken his ball and gone home...

[goldenster95]

Adversity?

After having a below average game, he drove his team down the field in one minute on the road in the most important game of the season for the win.

Maybe you should brush up on your definitions.

I know my definitions pretty well, thank you. Do you? And do you see that "below average game" thingy up there? Thank you.

This is Game 2 of "below average game".

[HeHateMe]

The story of this game is Drew Brees not Tony Romo. Drew Brees absolutely owned the Dallas defense. Sure Romo has had a bad game but he still shows he can get the ball to his playmakers and such. Campbell kinda displayed that this afternoon with his good play in the Second half after a horrid first half. If Romo does this next game then sure jump all over him but as for right now hes trying to shoot it out with Brees so hes taking chances and its leading to bad plays, (also TO is just terrible).

I understand that you guys jump all over Hehateme after the pukes terrible defeat at the hands of Saints but he is clearly a more reasonable and realistic fan than the lot of you are despite being a puke fan. Smack talk is fun and all but at least respect others' serious opinions and look at them in an objective view.

Thanks.

But watching Payton get the Gatorade bath that a Parcells team invented is classic.

Good for Sean. He deserved it. He pitched a perfect game.

[goldenster95]

I'll say this about HeHateMe. She's usually pretty darn objective and reasonable. This is one rare exception.

[tr1]

I understand that you guys jump all over Hehateme after the pukes terrible defeat at the hands of Saints but he is clearly a more reasonable and realistic fan than the lot of you are despite being a puke fan. Smack talk is fun and all but at least respect others' serious opinions and look at them in an objective view.

It's obvious that you're new, so I'll be nice.

HHM is a sugar coated troll...

He makes you think he's engaging you in talk about football, but soon it seeps through that his intention is to promote the invincibility of his team...even when it sucks.

This is good medicine for him...especially on a Skins board.

[goldenster95]

Thanks.

But watching Payton get the Gatorade bath that a Parcells team invented is classic.

Good for Sean. He deserved it. He pitched a perfect game.

You deserve the kudos, HeHateMe. You're usually right on.

[desioreo87]

Thanks.

But watching Payton get the Gatorade bath that a Parcells team invented is classic.

Good for Sean. He deserved it. He pitched a perfect game.

No Prob. I hate when people dismiss others opinions just cause they hate they other dudes' team. I love the redskins to death but that doesn't mean I wont be objective in comparing them to other teams or how good our players really are.

[HeHateMe]

I'll say this about HeHateMe. She's usually pretty darn objective and reasonable. This is one rare exception.

Ahh, using the "she" that I originated and owned tr1 with.

Gotta be original there.

[desioreo87]

It's obvious that you're new, so I'll be nice.

HHM is a sugar coated troll...

He makes you think he's engaging you in talk about football, but soon it seeps through that his intention is to promote the invincibility of his team...even when it sucks.

This is good medicine for him...especially on a Skins board.

yea bro I have read you thread and posts quite a bit and with all due respect don't tell me about other posters. I will make the judgement myself. I'm all grown up now and can firmly base my judgments on posters by the tone, attitude, and content of their posts. Thanks anyway

[HeHateMe]

No Prob. I hate when people dismiss others opinions just cause they hate they other dudes' team. I love the redskins to death but that doesn't mean I wont be objective in comparing them to other teams or how good our players really are.

Oh, Im quite used to it on this board.

I entertain trolls like tr1 because its fun for a while.

But when reality and facts set in, I pay her no mind.

[HeHateMe]

yea bro I have read you thread and posts quite a bit and with all due respect don't tell me about other posters. I will make the judgement myself. I'm all grown up now and can firmly base my judgments on posters by the tone, attitude, and content of their posts. Thanks anyway

Oh, by all means, please, ask around about tr1.

I'm sure youll respect her opinion even more.

[Who Del]

yea bro I have read you thread and posts quite a bit and with all due respect don't tell me about other posters. I will make the judgement myself. I'm all grown up now and can firmly base my judgments on posters by the tone, attitude, and content of their posts. Thanks anyway

:laugh: :cheers:

[goldenster95]

Ahh, using the "she" that I originated and owned tr1 with.

Gotta be original there.

Wait, I actually thought you were female. Huh?!

[THEHEREAFTER]

The Saints have been dismantled this year. Tonight was our turn. What I love about skins fans is that you guys are estatic that the Boys were blown out completely ignoring your team.

:finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger:

To every skins fan on this board talking smack at 4-9. :mad:

[HeHateMe]

Wait, I actually thought you were female. Huh?!

Again, as I told you before, just give props when you tax my style.

[tr1]

The Saints have been dismantled this year. Tonight was our turn. What I love about skins fans is that you guys are estatic that the Boys were blown out completely ignoring your team.

:finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger:

To every skins fan on this board talking smack at 4-9. :mad:

Now there's the THA I know and love...

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I guess now you can say you showed up after a loss...

[Mooka]

The Saints have been dismantled this year. Tonight was our turn. What I love about skins fans is that you guys are estatic that the Boys were blown out completely ignoring your team.

:finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger:

To every skins fan on this board talking smack at 4-9. :mad: It's the Sunday night game buddy.

We're supposed to watch that ass kicking and not say anything? :laugh:

[goldenster95]

The Saints have been dismantled this year. Tonight was our turn. What I love about skins fans is that you guys are estatic that the Boys were blown out completely ignoring your team.

:finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger:

To every skins fan on this board talking smack at 4-9. :mad:

Yes, we certainly are. Can you blame us? We've got to somewhere for our little pound of flesh. lol

[goldenster95]

Again, as I told you before, just give props when you tax my style.

Say what?!

[tr1]

yea bro I have read you thread and posts quite a bit and with all due respect don't tell me about other posters. I will make the judgement myself. I'm all grown up now and can firmly base my judgments on posters by the tone, attitude, and content of their posts. Thanks anyway

Hey, I wasn't trying to be offensive.

By all means, keep reading this thread...you can see for yourself the quality of opposition fanbase we have here.

:cheers:

[THEHEREAFTER]

Now there's the THA I know and love...

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I guess now you can say you showed up after a loss...

I showed up to see if skins fans were reveling in our humbling blowout loss tonight and look what I found. We won last week and tr1 I didn't see you until Friday. Now THIS is the trdumb that I know and love.

[tr1]

:laugh: :cheers:

WD, so bitter...it's okay...
:laugh:

[Reic]

The Saints have been dismantled this year. Tonight was our turn. What I love about skins fans is that you guys are estatic that the Boys were blown out completely ignoring your team.

:finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger:

To every skins fan on this board talking smack at 4-9. :mad:

hmm something tells me if the roles were reversed we would be hearing the same thing for girls fans.

[HeHateMe]

WD, so bitter...it's okay...
:laugh:

Truth hurts dont it tr1.

Nary a soul of any worthy poster on this board respects you.

Poor kid.

[Who Del]

I'm in a great mood. The Cowboys and the Redskins lost today. What am I bitter about?

[HeHateMe]

I'm in a great mood. The Cowboys and the Redskins lost today. What am I bitter about?

Come on WD, you know her imagination.

She convinces herself of things and then believes they are true.

We all know this.

[tr1]

I showed up to see if skins fans were reveling in our humbling blowout loss tonight and look what I found. We won last week and tr1 I didn't see you until Friday. Now THIS is the trdumb that I know and love.

Um, you weren't paying attention...been here all week.

I didn't post much because of all of the masterbatory posts by puke fans...really sickening...yuck!

[Reic]

I'm in a great mood. The Cowboys and the Redskins lost today. What am I bitter about?

Just thank Mark Brunell that the Eagles won today, the loss is clearly because of him :laugh:

[tr1]

I'm in a great mood. The Cowboys and the Redskins lost today. What am I bitter about?

WD, we never talk anymore...I'm beginning to think you don't like me.

[Who Del]

Just thank Mark Brunell that the Eagles won today, the loss is clearly because of him :laugh:

Culpeper was where I was born, Reic. You ever go to Knackels? Best bakery ever.

[Who Del]

WD, we never talk anymore...I'm beginning to think you don't like me.

You will always be my favorite poster in the ATN. Don't you ever forget it.

[Reic]

Lived here for 16 years, of course I have been to Knackles, I don't like them that much, they make good muffins though.

[bubba9497]

Truth hurts dont it tr1.

Nary a soul of any worthy poster on this board respects you.

Poor kid.



too bad there's no worthy posters in ATN to not respect him :(

[HeHateMe]

You will always be my favorite poster in the ATN. Don't you ever forget it.

She's everyones favorite WD.

Anytime someone is feeling down and needs a laugh, they read a tr1 thread or post and then they immediately feel better about themselves.

Thanks tr1! Keep up the good work.

I was actually a little down after this one, but youve made it a lot easier.

[bubba9497]

I'm in a great mood. The Cowboys and the Redskins lost today. What am I bitter about?


but it shouldn't have been the Skins :cry:


oh well let JC take his lumps this season..... I'm already getting ready for '07 :fingersx:

[Reic]

I already have the 16-0 Division Champs 2007 poster in my room, Bubba!

[dwdj75]

Romo didn't allow the 42 to be put up on the board. Or does he lead the D too ?

Romo just got scholled by his coordinator over his first three years. But that's got nothing to do with it huh ?

And by the majority's logic on QBs here, JC is the biggest bust since Leaf. Right ?

[goldenster95]

Romo didn't allow the 42 to be put up on the board. Or does he lead the D too ?

Romo just got scholled by his coordinator over his first three years. But that's got nothing to do with it huh ?

And by the majority's logic on QBs here, JC is the biggest bust since Leaf. Right ?

Ummmm, then what happened last week when he put up the 58 rating? Did Sean Payton hop in on the Giants' sideline then?

As for JC, get a clue dude. He's virtually a rookie, playing without their playmaking RB, and learning in a dumbed down system.

[Reic]

Boys already making excuses.

[tr1]

Ummmm, then what happened last week when he put up the 58 rating? Did Sean Payton hop in on the Giants' sideline then?

As for JC, get a clue dude. He's virtually a rookie, playing without their playmaking RB, and learning in a dumbed down system.

When you throw facts at puke fans, they can't handle it...please, be gentle with them.

[tr1]

You will always be my favorite poster in the ATN. Don't you ever forget it.

I wish I could say the same, but there are just so many pals here, it wouldn't be right for me to say it is you...but you're definitely top 5 material...lately, though, you had dropped out of my top ten.

I'm glad you're back.
;)

[dwdj75]

Boys already making excuses.

Nope, no excuses we got whipped. Period.

All the way around, NOT JUST THE QB.

[Riggo#44]

The Saints have been dismantled this year. Tonight was our turn. What I love about skins fans is that you guys are estatic that the Boys were blown out completely ignoring your team.

:finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger:

To every skins fan on this board talking smack at 4-9. :mad:

Oh no, THA - we know we suck. Really, you can point out our crappy record all you want. There isn't anything you can say that is going to change the fact that we completely **** the bed.

It's also not going to change the fact that Romo has NOT played well the last 2 weeks. If I am a playoff team and my QB has played like that - I would be very nervous.

His numbers the past 2 weeks - 36/68 52.9% completion percentage, 1 TD 4 INTs. Ratings of 58.8 and 58.1. Has the league figured him out? I think it's a legitamite question. The Cowboys will most likely win the division, but they will have to play the Giants in the 1st round, as it stands right now.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

Oh no, THA - we know we suck. Really, you can point out our crappy record all you want. There isn't anything you can say that is going to change the fact that we completely **** the bed.

It's also not going to change the fact that Romo has NOT played well the last 2 weeks. If I am a playoff team and my QB has played like that - I would be very nervous.

His numbers the past 2 weeks - 36/68 52.9% completion percentage, 1 TD 4 INTs. Ratings of 58.8 and 58.1. Has the league figured him out? I think it's a legitamite question. The Cowboys will most likely win the division, but they will have to play the Giants in the 1st round, as it stands right now.

Though I wouldn't bail on Romo just yet, it should be pointed out that he should have 5 INTs and 0 TDs over the past two weeks. His only TD vs. the two playoff teams they've played over the past two weeks was a pass that went right through the hands of a Saints defender that TO made a nice play on and took to the house.

[Riggo#44]

Though I wouldn't bail on Romo just yet, it should be pointed out that he should have 5 INTs and 0 TDs over the past two weeks. His only TD vs. the two playoff teams they've played over the past two weeks was a pass that went right through the hands of a Saints defender that TO made a nice play on and took to the house.

I forgot about that one...interesting. They do not have an easy game going into Atlanta, although they should win it. I see Dallas winning out beating Atl, Philly and Detroit...and losing to a healthy Giants team in the 1st round of the playoffs.

[rdsknbill]

Last night was priceless. Romo crashed, TO was a nonfactor, and the Boys got punched in the mouth!

[Warhead36]

Whistling in the dark.

Your team is average...look at your record...average.

Damn I wish we could be average :(

[Skins4481]

I told all the Boys fans how Romo is not that good and is getting lucky. Watching the games, I have seen at least 4-5 sure INTs that defenders let go right through their arms. Not to mention that he is too short and his arm is not strong enough for him to be a good pocket passer.

All you have to do with Romo is keep him in the pocket. If you let him get on the outside, he'll make you pay. But keep him in the pocket and you wont see anything special from him. Payton knew this. Now the rest of the NFL knows this.

[IrishOrange15]

He didn't have a particularly good game last week, running up a rating of 58.1. Were it not for a CB with a broken thumb, his numbers would 12/27, 187 yards (a lot of which came on one pass and a prevent like defense), 0 TDs, 3 INTs and a rating of 21.7.

Actually Romo played well against the Giants last week. He had 5 dropped passes, 2 of which would've been for big yards and possibly 1 TD. One of those drops went off Glenn's chest and into Kiwanuka's hands. He also had a 27 yard pass interference that doesn't get recorded into his stats.

He was bad against the Saints though. Although the entire team was bad. It was a wakeup call for sure. Still, when you give up 500+ yards to an opposing team, that's your main problem there.


YAKUZA

[IrishOrange15]

Ummmm, then what happened last week when he put up the 58 rating? Did Sean Payton hop in on the Giants' sideline then?

5 drops had more to do with it than stellar Giants defensive play. You guys gave me grief when Campbell had 2 drops in the Carolina game.

The Giants tried to contain him in the pocket, but they don't have the discipline to do so. While the Saints aren't nearly as talented on defense as the Giants, they are one of the more disciplined defensive squads this season.

This was Romo's only bad start so far. But outside of Terry Glenn and Julius Jones (who still made a lousy attempt at a block) the rest of the offense didn't show up either.

Dallas is still in first place. I have no idea how they will beat the Saints if they have to face them again. Hopefully they won't.


YAKUZA

[Riggo#44]

Actually Romo played well against the Giants last week. He had 5 dropped passes, 2 of which would've been for big yards and possibly 1 TD. One of those drops went off Glenn's chest and into Kiwanuka's hands. He also had a 27 yard pass interference that doesn't get recorded into his stats.

He was bad against the Saints though. Although the entire team was bad. It was a wakeup call for sure. Still, when you give up 500+ yards to an opposing team, that's your main problem there.

YAKUZA

Romo's play the last 2 weeks is debatable (and can be explained away by drops, PI callse etc.) I am not going to debate 2 consecutive weeks at a sub-60 qb rating.

What's even more alarming is the in-fighting. Newman getting into a locker-room fight, Canty and Spears getting into seperate fights. It would be one thing if this team is losing and it can be chalked up to frustration, but they were riding a 4-game win streak. TO being TO (pick one - absurdly self-centered birthday bash; not paying attention to Parcells' "What-it-takes" message; the whole Irvin interview) What gives?

On a little sidenote - what a sellout Irvin is! Can you imagine, for example, Portis pulling that **** in an interview with Sonny or Riggins and getting away with it? If I was Staubach, Aikman, Emmitt or any self-respecting current of former Cowboy worth a salt I would be GRILLING Irvin right now.

[IrishOrange15]

Romo's play the last 2 weeks is debatable (and can be explained away by drops, PI callse etc.) I am not going to debate 2 consecutive weeks at a sub-60 qb rating..

Funny, if I even bring up Campbell's QB rating in 1 game, it's completely debatable.

I'm not the biggest fan of the QB rating system, but I've always said that it doesn't account drops. 2 drops in a game is nothing big....5 drops is, especially when one bounces off the reciever and goes into the defenders hands. He didn't play great against NYG, but in the end he played pretty well. Antonio Pierce thought so as well.


What's even more alarming is the in-fighting. Newman getting into a locker-room fight, Canty and Spears getting into seperate fights. It would be one thing if this team is losing and it can be chalked up to frustration, but they were riding a 4-game win streak. TO being TO (pick one - absurdly self-centered birthday bash; not paying attention to Parcells' "What-it-takes" message; the whole Irvin interview) What gives?

I'm more concerned about something that was worrying for quite some time. Dallas' inability to get a consistent pass rush and the cover skills of Bradie James and Kevin Burnett. Some teams have picked on those guys throughout the year, but the Saints outright exposed that as much as they possibly could. Unfortunately, the 3-4 defense (which I like) means you need big LB's which means that it's hard to find big guys that can also cover.

The fights could be more than nothing (seriously, like fights never break out on teams). I mean if was at the Gary Payton level of throwing barbells and chairs at each other, than it's a definite issue. But for now I think it's more of the Dallas media make a big stink to get fans riled up.


YAKUZA

[Riggo#44]

Funny, if I even bring up Campbell's QB rating in 1 game, it's completely debatable.

I'm not the biggest fan of the QB rating system, but I've always said that it doesn't account drops. 2 drops in a game is nothing big....5 drops is, especially when one bounces off the reciever and goes into the defenders hands. He didn't play great against NYG, but in the end he played pretty well. Antonio Pierce thought so as well.

Romo's number have dropped off the past 2 weeks for whatever reason. I am not going to debate why is all I am saying. It'll be interesting to see how he rebounds.


I'm more concerned about something that was worrying for quite some time. Dallas' inability to get a consistent pass rush and the cover skills of Bradie James and Kevin Burnett. Some teams have picked on those guys throughout the year, but the Saints outright exposed that as much as they possibly could. Unfortunately, the 3-4 defense (which I like) means you need big LB's which means that it's hard to find big guys that can also cover.

The fights could be more than nothing (seriously, like fights never break out on teams). I mean if was at the Gary Payton level of throwing barbells and chairs at each other, than it's a definite issue. But for now I think it's more of the Dallas media make a big stink to get fans riled up.


YAKUZA

Could be - but the Redskins blow this year, and there hasn't been very many, if any reports (other than Lloyd being a jackass) of in-fighting between the players. It could be something, it could be nothing - will be something to watch as they head to Atlanta.

[CrazyZeb]

Two weeks ago my friend the Cowboy fan said he would take Romo over Tom Brady (and basically any QB but P. Manning). Sadly, I'll bet he's not the only one.

[IrishOrange15]

Though I wouldn't bail on Romo just yet, it should be pointed out that he should have 5 INTs and 0 TDs over the past two weeks. His only TD vs. the two playoff teams they've played over the past two weeks was a pass that went right through the hands of a Saints defender that TO made a nice play on and took to the house.

Not exactly true. He had Fasano open on a TD that got flagged for PI and Witten dropped a TD before the next pass that Saints DB dropped. He also had Owens miss a wide open pass that probably would've led to a TD but for some reason Owens completely misjudged it. Not to mention his Kiwanuka INT hit Terry Glenn in the chest and bounced out and into Kiwanuka's hands. Saying he played bad against NYG means that a person probably didn't follow the game very closely. Although it's agreed he played poorly against the Saints.


YAKUZA

[THEHEREAFTER]

Romo's play the last 2 weeks is debatable (and can be explained away by drops, PI callse etc.) I am not going to debate 2 consecutive weeks at a sub-60 qb rating.

What's even more alarming is the in-fighting. Newman getting into a locker-room fight, Canty and Spears getting into seperate fights. It would be one thing if this team is losing and it can be chalked up to frustration, but they were riding a 4-game win streak. TO being TO (pick one - absurdly self-centered birthday bash; not paying attention to Parcells' "What-it-takes" message; the whole Irvin interview) What gives?


Great analysis. How are the skins doing? :rolleyes:

[SonnyJ]

Sorry, Irish. I saw the game last night. The Cowboys were fortunate to get their last 10 points because both of those drives should have been killed by interceptions of passes that were, at best, poor decisions that turned out extremely fortunately for the Cowboys. I don't recall any "should have been TD" passes in there. Not sure what play the PI on Fasano was last night - I remember one against the Giants but not last night. And that PI was just ticky-tack and completely irrelevant to the play - a bailout by the refs.

And don't get started on Owens. You know, every game Cowboy fans like to plug in drops by Owens as if they are anomalies. Maybe, just maybe, that's what he is and what you have to expect from him - some great plays and some real eye-rollers? At what point does it just become the norm and the exception is that he catches everything thrown his way?

The fact is that Romo has been very good - better than anyone could have imagined. I certainly give him props. Having said that, the thing that has been most amazing to me during this Romo run has been how OPEN they've been able to get their receivers. Don't get me wrong, Romo has made some stick throws, but he has also been the beneficiary of a design that has receivers running free - whoever is doing this on their staff has been doing a wonderful job.

But def. coordinators in the NFL are no dummies. Eventually, they were going to catch on to some of the bread-and-butter stuff that the Cowboys are doing w/Romo and make him get out of his comfort zone. I think you're seeing that right now. His next phase of development will be if he can make them pay for taking away his preferred plays.

The Cowboys have a tough road to hoe, though. The biggest thing that could assist Romo right now - a stout running game - is not a part of the Cowboy arsenal. Contrary to Parcell's rep, he's instituted a very finesse-oriented offense. The runs are of the draw, trap, misdirections - set up by the pass, definitely not smash-mouth. Consequently, I don't think teams are respecting the Cowboy running game very much (the odd long run doesn't count). ATL and Philly are susceptible to power running games that will open up their Ds for passing. The Cowboys are going to have to hope that their passing attack is good enough to do damage on its own w/o that assistance from the running game. It may very well be, but trends are suggesting otherwise.

The cracks that are showing don't forbode well against probable playoff competition, though. We saw last night what happened against the Saints - nothing to really hang your hat on there, I'm afraid. And forget about the Bears. The Bears D will eat the Cowboys offense alive. You need a strong running game to have a hope against the Bears in Chicago in January, and the Cowboys just don't have it. Awful matchup for the Cowboys. The Cowboys only chance against them is getting cheap points off of turnovers (not totally out of the realm of possibility given how generous Grossman has been of late).

[IrishOrange15]

Sorry, Irish. I saw the game last night. The Cowboys were fortunate to get their last 10 points because both of those drives should have been killed by interceptions of passes that were, at best, poor decisions that turned out extremely fortunately for the Cowboys.
I don't recall any "should have been TD" passes in there.

Then you missed Witten dropping a 5 yard pass that hit him right in the hands. That led to the next play where the ball was dropped by the Saints defender. So while you could say that he should've had a pick, if Witten catches the pass before the dropped pick never happens.


Not sure what play the PI on Fasano was last night - I remember one against the Giants but not last night. And that PI was just ticky-tack and completely irrelevant to the play - a bailout by the refs.

That's the play I was talking about. Pierce had his arms extended and grabbed Fasano's arms which knocked Fasano down. It was the correct call.


And don't get started on Owens. You know, every game Cowboy fans like to plug in drops by Owens as if they are anomalies. Maybe, just maybe, that's what he is and what you have to expect from him - some great plays and some real eye-rollers? At what point does it just become the norm and the exception is that he catches everything thrown his way?

He leads the league in drops. If he had half the drops this season he'd still have a lot of drops. This is a high drop season even by his standards. Most Cowboys fans I've talked to are frustrated with the drops for quite some time and think it's an issue. Nobody is expecting him to catch everything, just not dropping so many would be nice.



The fact is that Romo has been very good - better than anyone could have imagined. I certainly give him props. Having said that, the thing that has been most amazing to me during this Romo run has been how OPEN they've been able to get their receivers. Don't get me wrong, Romo has made some stick throws, but he has also been the beneficiary of a design that has receivers running free - whoever is doing this on their staff has been doing a wonderful job.

That's also due to him making reads. It's one thing if they are wide open on go routes, but when he's finding them wide open on routes across the middle or deep posts, it's good decision making. When it's on simple go routes, that's a pretty easy read to make. He's doing it by hitting his progressions for the most part.



But def. coordinators in the NFL are no dummies. Eventually, they were going to catch on to some of the bread-and-butter stuff that the Cowboys are doing w/Romo and make him get out of his comfort zone. I think you're seeing that right now. His next phase of development will be if he can make them pay for taking away his preferred plays.

I think you'll see more of the same, keeping him in the pocket. However, it's not as easy as it looks and if the team is somewhat sharp and Romo isn't making mistakes and getting impulsive, that puts the Dallas offense on the advantage since it'll be harder to sack him if they are working on just containing him in the pocket


Contrary to Parcell's rep, he's instituted a very finesse-oriented offense. The runs are of the draw, trap, misdirections - set up by the pass, definitely not smash-mouth.

Nah, they run mostly isolations. They've been using Oliver Hoyte a ton and running behind him. They average 52% of their runs up the middle which is above average. Their offense is actually more versatile than finesse. They can throw just about any type of formation at you and run or throw from that formation. With Romo's good play, that's one of the reasons why they've scored so many points this season.


The cracks that are showing don't forbode well against probable playoff competition, though. We saw last night what happened against the Saints - nothing to really hang your hat on there, I'm afraid. And forget about the Bears. The Bears D will eat the Cowboys offense alive. You need a strong running game to have a hope against the Bears in Chicago in January, and the Cowboys just don't have it. Awful matchup for the Cowboys. The Cowboys only chance against them is getting cheap points off of turnovers (not totally out of the realm of possibility given how generous Grossman has been of late).

I'm not all too worried about the offense other than they get off to sluggish starts for some reason. I'm extremely worried about the defense. Their play against the passes in the flats has been poor all year long and the Saints exploited it. And while I like the 3-4, that's a good way to attack it.

Think about it, Brees only threw 6 passes that traveled longer than 11 yards and they had 500 yards of offense. I don't care if Romo looks like the next Peyton/Unitas/Marino/and Montana. You simply don't win games playing defense like that.



YAKUZA

[SonnyJ]

Then you missed Witten dropping a 5 yard pass that hit him right in the hands. That led to the next play where the ball was dropped by the Saints defender. So while you could say that he should've had a pick, if Witten catches the pass before the dropped pick never happens.

That's the play I was talking about. Pierce had his arms extended and grabbed Fasano's arms which knocked Fasano down. It was the correct call.

Well, you'll have to explain to me how a dropped 5-yard pass from the 35-yard line is a dropped TD pass, as you stated in your original post. I suppose you're arguing that he should have gotten a first down, thus alleviating the need to go for it on 4th. Even so, judging how careless Romo was in the red zone all night, I wouldn't say with certainty that he would have avoided another pick. Besides, the point still stands that, though the Saint defender dropped the pick (which happens), the extremely fortunate part is that the ball just went straight to Owens who had all but given up on the play. I don't think that it's a stretch to say that that pass had no business being completed. Come on, you can't deny that that was a very fortuitous bounce, can you? As far as Fasano goes, we'll just agree to disagree - I'm not disputing the call, I just think it was minor, unnecessary, and don't think Fasano was going to make that grab.


He leads the league in drops. If he had half the drops this season he'd still have a lot of drops. This is a high drop season even by his standards. Most Cowboys fans I've talked to are frustrated with the drops for quite some time and think it's an issue. Nobody is expecting him to catch everything, just not dropping so many would be nice.

Owens is what he is. You say Dallas fans have been complaining about his drops all season even though he has consistently done it all season. At what point do you just accept that as part of the price of having the benefit of his presence on the field? It's like Redskin fans being shocked at a loss at this point of the season even though the team was so much more successful last year. At some point, realization has to set in that this is what you are getting for this season.


That's also due to him making reads. It's one thing if they are wide open on go routes, but when he's finding them wide open on routes across the middle or deep posts, it's good decision making. When it's on simple go routes, that's a pretty easy read to make. He's doing it by hitting his progressions for the most part.


And, yes, Romo is making good decisions on getting the balls to wide open players. Still doesn't mean that there isn't some great play design going on that is allowing that to happen. The Saints lit the Cowboys up last night, but I wasn't seeing Saints receivers open like I've seen Cowboy receivers open during this run. I don't profess to being an expert on coverages, but it seems that this becomes less and less likely as the playcalling tendencies with Romo under C becomes more apparent and the caliber of the defense increases.


Nah, they run mostly isolations. They've been using Oliver Hoyte a ton and running behind him. They average 52% of their runs up the middle which is above average. Their offense is actually more versatile than finesse. They can throw just about any type of formation at you and run or throw from that formation. With Romo's good play, that's one of the reasons why they've scored so many points this season.

As far as the running game goes, yours is probably the more accurate description. I still see it as being very Eagle-like in that it can look good on paper, but can't be leaned on to control a game. They could have used that last night - instead of trying to match the Saints score-for-score, a little keep-away might have been in order. This is actually why I think the Redskins will look a bit more competitive against the Saints next week than the Cowboys did last night.


I'm not all too worried about the offense other than they get off to sluggish starts for some reason. I'm extremely worried about the defense. Their play against the passes in the flats has been poor all year long and the Saints exploited it. And while I like the 3-4, that's a good way to attack it.

Well, you can profess confidence in the offense all you want, but a middling Saint defense stifled it in Texas stadium on a temperate evening. There is very little possibility that the Cowboy offense goes into Soldier Field in January and enjoys success against the Bears defense. It may be able to have some success in the Superdome, but your shaky defense (your description) seems like it will be at an even greater disadvantage there. These are the two front-runners in the NFC - while things can change quickly, if you're a team that has Super Bowl aspirations (and there was plenty of such talk regarding the Cowboys before last night), you're going to have to face at least one of those teams. Neither appears to present a favorable matchup to the Cowboys.

[Riggo#44]

Great analysis. How are the skins doing? :rolleyes:

Yep the Skins blow. Go ahead and use that to deflect the focus off the Cowboys seemingly crumbling right now.

And yes, it was good analysis, oh most thin-skinned one.