Clinton Portis Trade Rumor

[funbunch87]

Clinton Portis - #26 - Running back - 5'11" - 205lbs
News: Houston may reportedly show interest in Clinton Portis this offseason.
Impact: Here we go. Along with Ron Dayne, Portis, who has a history in Gary Kubiak's scheme, would form one of the league's premier backfields. This would free up the Texans to choose a first-round defensive back, defensive end, or even quarterback. Re-working Portis' contract to make it tradable would be the biggest obstacle for a blockbuster like this. (Fri. Dec 29, 2006)

Courtesy Of FoxSports.com

[LiveStrongSkins]

:rolleyes:

[SkinsWizCubsDukes]

Come on, stop talking about trading our best player. Trade Betts over Portis.

[Grimm]

I would hope that if we traded Portis to Houston, they wouldn't have a first round anymore

[VegunN]

:bsflag: Need I say more?

[SackMachine]

For who? Mario Williams?
:laugh:

[PleaseGoForTheWin]

I would hope that if we traded Portis to Houston, they wouldn't have a first round anymore

Right, unless they gave us D.Robinson and a 2nd rounder......sound familiar?

[speedmike]

This idea is ridiculous.

IF it were even going to happen, the Texans would have to cough up quite alot. More than just their first rounder.

[funbunch87]

The SKins would prob. ask for The Texans 2nd Round This year, 4th Round This Year, And Second Round Next Year...

[REDPepper]

Well first of all the skins would never trade portis, and if they did, it wouldn't be for picks. The Texans don't have much talent, it would probably take an Andre Johnson, DeMeco Ryans type talent to get the trade done.... and even then.

[SkinsOrlando]

CP isn't going anywhere.

[CPstretch]

andre johnson and demeco ryans would fit in nicely...fill 2 holes in one trade.

[twenty-eight]

What would we get in return? What kind of BS rumor is this??

[tml6157]

Dunta Robinson, Andre Johnson, Mario Williams, a first rounder and a second rounder then we MIGHT consider it longer then 6 seconds

[TD_washingtonredskins]

The SKins would prob. ask for The Texans 2nd Round This year, 4th Round This Year, And Second Round Next Year...

Two 2nds and a 4th would be GREAT value for a running back. Especially when you have someone you know can play the position behind him.

I would take that deal in a heartbeat.

[TheDiplomat]

Man I love stability..............Let's hope this isn't true at all.

[redskinss]

I would hope that if we traded Portis to Houston, they wouldn't have a first round anymore

yeah no kidding. this became a ridiculous rumor the second he started talking about what they would get with there first rounder after aquiring portis

[NVskinsfan]

Chips to bargain with.....
we'll hear at least 1000 rumors involving the Skins.....

[E-Dog Night]

Clinton Portis - #26 - Running back - 5'11" - 205lbs
News: Houston may reportedly show interest in Clinton Portis this offseason.


Here's the link for all you linky people: http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/99275

Two things: (1) Lots of teams "may reportedly" show interest in Portis and/or Betts this off season. Happens every time a team has two good, productive players at the same skill position. This doesn't constutite a trade rumor, not until the Redskins are actually involved in talks. (2) This supposed rumor is listed under 'Fantasy News'.

Fantasy....like in...fantasy. Websters defines fantasy as (i) a supposition based on no solid foundation; visionary idea; illusion; (ii) A type of fiction that bends or transcends the rules of the known world.

Yeah. That kind of fantasy. Portis isn't going anywhere.

Can we plaease have an embargo on 'trade Portis' threads?

[RedskinzOwnU]

Would be worth it if we got DeMeco, a second rounder, and maybe something else thrown in.

[Uno Boss]

Two 2nds and a 4th would be GREAT value for a running back. Especially when you have someone you know can play the position behind him.

I would take that deal in a heartbeat.


Well im glad you are not our GM...:doh:

[Highway66]

I would hope that if we traded Portis to Houston, they wouldn't have a first round anymore


Amen!!!!!

[Sherlock Holmes]

Andyman ? ;)

[E-Dog Night]

Andyman ? ;)

Not quite. :)

If I see it from him, then I'll believe it.

[skinfan2k]

shaun alexander and edge were to be had for 2nd round picks and no1 wanted to give that up.. portis wont command that many pics

[Walking Deadman]

Not Happening.
Cap hits to both the Texans and Redskins would be too much alone.

But if it was hypothetical.........Portis for Mario Williams and their 1st rounder.

Frankly, I like Portis too much to even seriously consider trading him but that would be my terms.

[skinny21]

Right, unless they gave us D.Robinson and a 2nd rounder......sound familiar?

I don't want to give up CP, but this may not be too bad an idea (maybe if they threw in a 5th too)

But, yeah,this is all fantasy talk.

[jimster]

shaun alexander and edge were to be had for 2nd round picks and no1 wanted to give that up.. portis wont command that many pics


therefore not worth discussing trading our best player.

The Texans have a lot of need that it would be foolish for them to give up a lot for one position. Dominic Rhodes will be back next year, along with Lundy and Dayne, their RB's aren't that bad. - I'm guessing they'll keep their picks for bigger needs.

[d0ublestr0ker0ll]

:pooh: :stop:

Clinton Portis Baby.

[playboy1972]

When you are 5-10, I don't think there is one player on this team that I wouldn't trade. Half of them have been here less than 3 years so who gives a crap. I would trade half the team if it meant we would start playing like the 49ers, Titans and Jets. They were lousy last year and now they are up and comers. So y'all can worship these 5-10 bums if you want, I want results. Go Skins.

[E-Dog Night]

When you are 5-10, I don't think there is one player on this team that I wouldn't trade. Half of them have been here less than 3 years so who gives a crap. I would trade half the team if it meant we would start playing like the 49ers, Titans and Jets. They were lousy last year and now they are up and comers. So y'all can worship these 5-10 bums if you want, I want results. Go Skins.

This explains the "No New Threads" thing.

[Rolling Thunder]

Well if the Clinton Portis trade did happen, I'm sure our FO would find a way to give Denver another draft choice out of the deal.:doh:

[SkinsFTW]

andre johnson and demeco ryans would fit in nicely...fill 2 holes in one trade.

Thats what I'm saying. Screw the draft picks. Lets get this one done. They were 1sts and 2nds anyway.

[redsand521]

Please...make it stop...

[TheDiplomat]

When you are 5-10, I don't think there is one player on this team that I wouldn't trade. Half of them have been here less than 3 years so who gives a crap. I would trade half the team if it meant we would start playing like the 49ers, Titans and Jets. They were lousy last year and now they are up and comers. So y'all can worship these 5-10 bums if you want, I want results. Go Skins.

Constant turnover will not deliver results though. In the NFL, stability and chemistry are key components to success.....or atleast long-term success.

[the burgundy and gold]

it didn't even mention who we would get back in return, what kind of rumor is this?

[da#1skinsfan]

I love these "reports"

These guys just come up with a random thought and report on it. "Houston REPORTEDLY MAY..."

Terrible.

[flexxskins]

Would be worth it if we got DeMeco, a second rounder, and maybe something else thrown in.No, it wouldn't be.

When are we going to stop getting rid of players that produce for us? It wouldn't even matter if we got DeMeco, someone in the second round and something else thrown in, we wouldn't keep them around. :doh:

[NicholSkin]

Joe Gibbs would sooner sell his race team than trade Portis.

Not happening.

[S21Taylor]

:sucks:

CP isn't going anywhere

['Skins_&_'Stons]

Figures that a noob would start such a $%$%#%@^ thread. :mad:

[fuji869]

Along with Ron Dayne, Portis, who has a history in Gary Kubiak's scheme, would form one of the league's premier backfields. (Fri. Dec 29, 2006)

What about forming a premier back field with #46 where he is already at?!?!? :whoknows:

[ozskin]

I keep sayin don't be surprised if this happens. We may not agree with it, but look at the recent history of what our front office has done, and then tell me it's not possible.

['Skins_&_'Stons]

I keep sayin don't be surprised if this happens. We may not agree with it, but look at the recent history of what our front office has done, and then tell me it's not possible.


I would be glad to:


It IS NOT possible.

[seanyt]

I guess in some fantasy league this might happen...

[TD_washingtonredskins]

I would be glad to:


It IS NOT possible.

Oh wait, you increased the font size and changed the font color, nevermind then...it must not be happening. Close the thread! :rolleyes:

Guys, as much as some of you (who like big names and star power) might hate to admit this, it is very possible to get better by gaining draft picks for big-name players! Granted, we'd have to get good value for Portis and not just give him away, but you'd be foolish to be closed-minded toward the idea of a trade.

Keep in mind (and I know we wouldn't get this good an offer) that the hated Cowboys won 3 Super Bowls because they traded away their best player in the late-1980s.

[RWJ]

I will say this, if Betts runs for over a 100 yrds tonight it will make him very attractive to many teams. We have a very good OF line. If we do get a legit GM for next season, there may be some rumblings and a possible trade scenrio for one of the two backs to be trade bait. Just my thoughts, all. We resigned Betts for a song and a dance. If a team were to offer the right package for one of the two, it'd be pretty smart to listen to offers. Agreed?

[RWJ]

Oh wait, you increased the font size and changed the font color, nevermind then...it must not be happening. Close the thread! :rolleyes:

Guys, as much as some of you (who like big names and star power) might hate to admit this, it is very possible to get better by gaining draft picks for big-name players! Granted, we'd have to get good value for Portis and not just give him away, but you'd be foolish to be closed-minded toward the idea of a trade.

Keep in mind (and I know we wouldn't get this good an offer) that the hated Cowboys won 3 Super Bowls because they traded away their best player in the late-1980s.

Man, I'd be all for it, but remember that the salary cap didn't take affect until 1993, when Joe Gibbs got out of football and didn't have to worry about the salary cap. If we could get 2 1st round picks, one this year and next year, along with a 2nd round pick, for this year and next year, I'd do it in a heatbeat, but you know and I know it isn't going to happen.

[[[ghost]]]

I would hope that if we traded Portis to Houston, they wouldn't have a first round anymore


Thats what I was saying. How the hell do they expect to have a first rounder if the want portis.

Personally, they have NOBODY I would want on my team for portis. Mario is nice, but him plus a first isn't enough. Maybe Dunta Robinson.

[JCB]

Man, this is going to be a looooonnnnng offseason. Just saying.

[Smurf85]

Im just wondering how many Portis trade rumors are we going to see this year mods?:doh:

[airtime]

I think some of you are having a fantasy that Portis WILL be around next season. I think you might want to pinch yourself right now and wake up from that dream. There is a good chance the Mr. Portis will be with another team next season. You have three great backs in Portis, Betts and Duckett. Trade one, bring in a upcoming star to begin learning the system or draft one, free up the cap space for the future. Another injury riddled season for Mr. Portis will mean your calling for Gibbs to trade him anyway.

[Smurf85]

I think some of you are having a fantasy that Portis WILL be around next season. I think you might want to pinch yourself right now and wake up from that dream. There is a good chance the Mr. Portis will be with another team next season. You have three great backs in Portis, Betts and Duckett. Trade one, bring in a upcoming star to begin learning the system or draft one, free up the cap space for the future. Another injury riddled season for Mr. Portis will mean your calling for Gibbs to trade him anyway.

Your the one thats dreaming.Duckett is not under contract after this year.WTH would he sign with the Skins.He is the one thats going to be gone.

[Sticksboi05]

LOL Portis isn't going anywhere....this is just funny....he's too important in Al Saunders' scheme.

[RWJ]

I think some of you are having a fantasy that Portis WILL be around next season. I think you might want to pinch yourself right now and wake up from that dream. There is a good chance the Mr. Portis will be with another team next season. You have three great backs in Portis, Betts and Duckett. Trade one, bring in a upcoming star to begin learning the system or draft one, free up the cap space for the future. Another injury riddled season for Mr. Portis will mean your calling for Gibbs to trade him anyway.

AT, the thing of it is, is that Duckett is free to sign with whomever he wants next year, so you can cross him off the list. Now, with Betts sign and Portis sign for the next several seasons, it becomes a possibility especially if we get a GM in here, which I pray we do. Snyder, Gibbs and Cerrato whatever part he plays, simply in one word: "SUKS"!

[Smurf85]

LOL Portis isn't going anywhere....this is just funny....he's too important in Al Saunders' scheme.

While we get a new rumor every day.Its getting a little stupid around here.How many trade CP rumors do we need.

[RWJ]

AT, the thing of it is, is that Duckett is free to sign with whomever he wants next year, so you can cross him off the list. Now, with Betts sign and Portis sign for the next several seasons, it becomes a possibility especially if we get a GM in here, which I pray we do. Snyder, Gibbs and Cerrato whatever part he plays, simply in one word: "SUKS"!

Let me say before you all crucify me, We need Gibbs as our HC. We need Snyder as our owner because he spends the money, but Cerrato needs to go. We need a real GM in here to make a difference. We can't continue to rape the FA market and forget about the draft. We need someone in here that can evaluate talent.

[playboy1972]

This explains the "No New Threads" thing.

That explains the 4067 posts. No opinion, just judgement. Way to go skippy.

[playboy1972]

Constant turnover will not deliver results though. In the NFL, stability and chemistry are key components to success.....or atleast long-term success.

I agree with the high turnover issue, but when we picked up Griffin, Washington and Springs it was cool. I agree that sticking with a group long enough may get results but you know that this organization makes decisions on "We have to win now" instead of "Let's just get better".

[jtyler42]

If it will benefit the team I'd be all for it...I love CP and he is one of my favorite Redskins, but RB's are a dime a dozen and I LOVE THE REDSKINS more than any player...If we can get a windfall of picks, young talent or a combination of the two from the Texans I'd do it...

[Cooked Crack]

Never going to happen

[Smurf85]

This thread should be over im sick and tired of this crap.Its not going to happen so stop the threads.

[909997]

betts just fumbled thats 4 fumbles as a starter this year in 9 starts hmmm
and he has 5 fumbles this season

[Zazzaro703]

As betts just fumbles the ball in a crucial situation once again, how in the world can they even think of trading portis.

[SlinginSammy HOF '63]

I've been a Betts supporter all along but now I'm fully convinced that he's a good changeup to Portis and not the feature guy here. I feel sick for him but reality is setting in. He shouldn't be our feature guy.

[S21Taylor]

Betts homers can:stfu:

Portis is our starter

[Smurf85]

Betts homers can:stfu:

Portis is our starter


AMEN!:applause: :applause: :applause:

[manicd]

I've been a Betts supporter all along but now I'm fully convinced that he's a good changeup to Portis and not the feature guy here. I feel sick for him but reality is setting in. He shouldn't be our feature guy.

Agree, I like Betts a lot. Fumbling is fixable, ala Tiki, but it takes time. Portis is our man.

[SlinginSammy HOF '63]

Agree, I like Betts a lot. Fumbling is fixable, ala Tiki, but it takes time. Portis is our man.
True Tiki couldn't hang onto the ball to save his life 4-5 years ago. Ladell needs to learn to hang onto the damn ball. He'll finally learn. I do want him to stay though. Portis will go down quick if we make him pack the ball 25-30 times a game. Portis getting the ball 20 times and Betts a dozen times a game and we have a tough combo.

[jbowman]

Trading Portis would be like trading Moss. When you have one of the elite players at a position, you just don't get rid of them. While Portis has been out, the o-line has stepped up to create a pounding running attack for Betts. Once we have Portis back, we'll have an unstoppable run offense opened up by a deep threat offered by Campbell and one of the best wide receiver corps in the NFL right now. You don't trade that away.

[hitmandm]

Reed Doughty screwed up that play. They brought him up and his missed the hole plug.

[Vladimir L]

after watching Betts fumble again hahaha no chance

[JoeGibbsThickandthin]

Do you guys understand the Redskins do not have any other playmakers that can score on 1 play other than Santana Moss?

Not having Portis is the reason we do not score much even when running for 150 yards.

[ERIC THE REDskinsfan]

Never going to happen


THANK GOD!!! Can we PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE stop these ridic rumor threads?!? :mad: :mad:

[JoeGibbsThickandthin]

Betts should be traded in the offseason for some defensive help. I think Rock is a simular back to Betts.

[Vladimir L]

Yeah I say trade betts for some defensive help

[ciresolstice]

Exactly...Portis scores. who cares how many good runs you have between the 20's if you settle for field goals. Portis is elusive, has that gear and can punch it in..he's proven it.

I'm not a Betts basher either...sure the fumbles in the last two games haven't been good, and in this case, happened at really bad times...but Betts is still a good back, a hard runner and I'm glad he's a skin.(backing up Portis)

[Oldskool]

Shelve this under the "Rumor that someone heard so it must be true" section.

[JoeGibbsThickandthin]

Yeah I say trade betts for some defensive help


Yes this defense needs 4 to 5 impact players on defense.

If we get a top 4 pick we can trade that for two late first round picks.

Betts could be traded for a second round pick.


And start to build this defense. And add about 2 impact free agents at linebacker and corner in free agency.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

I am ready to admit I was wrong. I still think we can be an OK team without Portis, but I like us MUCH better with both of them.

I like LB but I can pretty confidently say now that his fumbling is not a fluke.

This is me admitting my mistake and hoping we do NOT trade CP!

[JoeGibbsThickandthin]

I am ready to admit I was wrong. I still think we can be an OK team without Portis, but I like us MUCH better with both of them.

I like LB but I can pretty confidently say now that his fumbling is not a fluke.

This is me admitting my mistake and hoping we do NOT trade CP!


Moss and Portis are the only two untouchables on the right now.

[OriginalWhizzinator]

cant w trade gregg williams instead?

[Tarpon75]

Moss and Portis are the only two untouchables on the right now.Campbell is on that list.

[Rafterman]

No one on a 5-11 team is untouchable.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if a deal is worked out for Portis.

[orneryone2]

I never understood why Ledell Betts kept making this team. He always seemed to be injured during training camp. My apologies Mr. Betts. If Houston wants Portis, lets get a couple of thos high draft picks, or maybe Mario Williams.

[JoeGibbsThickandthin]

Campbell is on that list.

And Campbell.

Portis is the Santana Moss of running backs. He can score a toucdown on any play.


Betts is a good back between the tackles. Portis is a hell of a blocker.

Plus he adds attiude to the team.

[DieselPwr44]

No one on a 5-11 team is untouchable.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if a deal is worked out for Portis.
And if this front office does work out a deal for Portis, then this fanbase should storm Redskins Park and burn it down.

Betts has ONE healthy year(a contract year mind you) for the first time since he's been here and this fanbase is ready to trade Portis and pin the offensive hopes of this team on Betts???

And if Betts goes down next year our feature back is...gulp...Rock Cartwright??

You people are certifiably insane........

[Smurf85]

And if this front office does work out a deal for Portis, then this fanbase should storm Redskins Park and burn it down.

Betts has ONE healthy year(a contract year mind you) for the first time since he's been here and this fanbase is ready to trade Portis and pin the offensive hopes of this team on Betts???

And if Betts goes down next year our feature back is...gulp...Rock Cartwright??

You people are certifiably insane........

I agree a 100% and i have already said it once this year.If we trade Portis im done with this team and i will find a new one.I have been a Skins fan my whole life,but you can only take so much.That would be it for me.

[Califan007]

You people are certifiably insane........
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[MartinC]

This idea is ridiculous.

IF it were even going to happen, the Texans would have to cough up quite alot. More than just their first rounder.

Portis is a great back - but fact is we would be lucky to get a 1st rounder for him coming off an injury and with a big contract etc. When the Rams traded for Faulk with the Colts he only cost a 2nd rounder as I recall - that about what we would get for Portis unless someone was desparate for him.

Personally I just do not see this happening. He is one of our best players, is young and can be part of what has the potential to be a very exciting offence next year.

Do not see this happening.

Now of someone came in with a mid to high econd rounder offer for Betts I'd be tempted.

[Bryan81]

I hope they don't trade Portis. I am glad Betts has done well racking up yrds the second half of the season, but he always fumbles at the most inopportune times. Say what you want about Portis- but he doesn't fumble nearly as much as Betts. Keep Portis as our starter.

[jivelikenice]

Today's game shows we need both guys...Betts is solid, not a gamebreaker and he tends to put the ball on the turf...Lets not forget how Portis carried us last year....

[VaK9Trainer]

I have mixed feelings about Portis. Yes, he can take it to the house at any given time, but he is an awful lot like Barry Sanders....A guy who breaks a run for 30 yards and the next five carries gets 1 yard per carry. The problem is that you dont keep moving the chains with that style of back. Portis is not physically able to be the workhorse back that this offense really needs because he's just too small to take the punishment week in and week out. Thats why he's hurt and why he's had a lot of "nicks" since he's been with us. No doubt that the guy has heart, but I think Betts gives us the best chance to win because he consistently gets the 5 or 6 yard carries. Having 2 great backs in todays NFL just isnt an option anymore because of the salary cap. If we can get good value for Portis, I say trade him.

[phatboy41]

How's everyone feel about Betts being so amazing now? I mean, I like the guy a lot, but in no way is he more valuable than Portis.

[jtyler42]

Nobody is getting the point...Everyone keeps talking about Portis is better than Betts or is more valuable than Betts and all of that is true, but if we were to trade one of them who would we get the best value for...Portis...I guess if we have the opportunity to improve the TEAM w/a trade of Portis we shouldnt do it b/c we cant let Portis get away...Like I said before I love the REDSKINS more than any single player on the team and I want the TEAM to do well regardless of who is on the field...

[Uno Boss]

Nobody is getting the point...Everyone keeps talking about Portis is better than Betts or is more valuable than Betts and all of that is true, but if we were to trade one of them who would we get the best value for...Portis...I guess if we have the opportunity to improve the TEAM w/a trade of Portis we shouldnt do it b/c we cant let Portis get away...Like I said before I love the REDSKINS more than any single player on the team and I want the TEAM to do well regardless of who is on the field...


It seems as if you are not geting the point.....


YOU DONT TRADE ANYONE PERIOD....



If you trade Betts you have no back up if portis goes down.....



If you trade portis you are stuck with a no home run hitting fumbler...:doh:


So please close this thread or it will go on and on till next august

[bmw2301]

There is no chance we will trade Portis......NO CHANCE

[Rskins06]

I am only hoping they signed L Betts extension to use him as trade bait. He can run for sure, he is also getting good at reversing field and running after the guy who just picked up his FUMBLE.
If the Redskins trade the heart and soul of this team, it only shows how poor the decision makers are.
Portis gets hurt and everyone wants to trade him, pathetic.

[Trillskinsfan]

I am only hoping they signed L Betts extension to use him as trade bait. He can run for sure, he is also getting good at reversing field and running after the guy who just picked up his FUMBLE.
If the Redskins trade the heart and soul of this team, it only shows how poor the decision makers are.
Portis gets hurt and everyone wants to trade him, pathetic.

:applause: thankyou man

[Xero21]

I'm sure any team would show interest in a guy like Clinton Portis

Doesn't mean we're giving him up though :2cents:

[hrpuffinstuff]

I am not sure why everyone thinks CP is so much better then Betts.
One player has the Redskins five game rushing record. Clue- it is not Portis.

Seriously though, if you do not see that Betts has great chemistry with the line and the team, you are nuts. Also he seems to take the big hits better then Portis.

Sure on any given ONE day you may want to take a HEALTHY portis over betts, however for 19 game season ( :) ), I think Betts is far more durable.
Yes, he needs to work on not fumbling, but Tiki had same problem five years ago, and he seems to be pretty decent.

If we could solve MANY defensive trouble spots- then trade away. As it is, we are going to waste ONE of them. I am not a fan of two-premier backs on same team.

Realistically, I see Betts asking for raise, or attempting to get more money elsewhere. He has proven that in a season where he did not get all the starts he can still churn out 1100 yards. I think alot of you have CP blinders on. I like him too, but his injury proneness and season toughness worry me.

[Trillskinsfan]

I am not sure why everyone thinks CP is so much better then Betts.
One player has the Redskins five game rushing record. Clue- it is not Portis.

Seriously though, if you do not see that Betts has great chemistry with the line and the team, you are nuts. Also he seems to take the big hits better then Portis.

Sure on any given ONE day you may want to take a HEALTHY portis over betts, however for 19 game season ( :) ), I think Betts is far more durable.
Yes, he needs to work on not fumbling, but Tiki had same problem five years ago, and he seems to be pretty decent.

If we could solve MANY defensive trouble spots- then trade away. As it is, we are going to waste ONE of them. I am not a fan of two-premier backs on same team.

Realistically, I see Betts asking for raise, or attempting to get more money elsewhere. He has proven that in a season where he did not get all the starts he can still churn out 1100 yards. I think alot of you have CP blinders on. I like him too, but his injury proneness and season toughness worry me.


sorry cant agree with you buddy:mad: meaning CP would tear the feild up by play cal,ls aND BLOCKING.bETTS CANT BREAK ANY TACKLES,AND INJURY PRONE LOL..THATS ALOT TO SAY FROM A GUY WHO LIKE HIS RB TO FUMBLE EVRYTIME THERE IS CONTACT:doh:

CP ANY WE GET ABOUT 1700 YARDS 16 TD'S
LB YOU GET 5 FUMBLES AND MAYBE 1000 YRDS AND 10 TD'S

[Monk in the Hall!]

1) As other have stated, most players on a 5-11 team are expendable. I would not be shocked if a trade occured. But I doubt it will happen.

2) The OL is really starting to gel under JC. Think what a healthy Portis will be able to do behind this line. This will be when CP really shines. The holes Betts has run thru with success can be magnified by CP, thats why he is a top 5 back.

3) We need the depth. The Betts resigning is a value for the skins. We need more of this (finding quality in the draft and resigning them to value deals). We are set at RB.

4) With that being said, RB is one of the positions it is easist to find decent quality for. If can get 2 high round draft picks, I would consider Betts trade. CP... I doubt it, but I would listen.

[fdarugar]

I am on the "trade one of em" bandwagon...it makes no sense to be having two starting calibur RB's with one of the worst defenses in Skins history.

[Badgerrocks]

I haven't read all 8 pages in this thread and I imagine I am not the only one smacking my head over this topic, but man would I be disappointed if Portis goes. In my mind he is a core Redskin, if not the 'face' of the team altogether. We have got to keep him!

[DieselPwr44]

I am on the "trade one of em" bandwagon...it makes no sense to be having two starting calibur RB's with one of the worst defenses in Skins history.
So if whoever we keep goes down next year, you are completely comfortable with Rock Cartwright or Nehemiah Broughton being the feature back?

Redskins fans complain the team has no depth. Once depth is acquired, same Redskins fans scream "Trade it away".

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and over and expecting a different result.

[da#1skinsfan]

If our defense was up to par this season, Betts would have carried us to the playoffs. I cant say the same about Nemo, TJ, or Rock.

There is NO REASON to trade the guy. For what, a 4th round pick? Right.

The trade Portis discussion is absurd. Not even in reality.

The trade Betts discussion is less ridiculous, but still makes no sense. I agree COMPLETELY with the guy above. I wish we had the same depth at every position. And I do NOT agree that Betts is a starting caliber back either.

[Trillskinsfan]

If our defense was up to par this season, Betts would have carried us to the playoffs. I cant say the same about Nemo, TJ, or Rock.

There is NO REASON to trade the guy. For what, a 4th round pick? Right.

The trade Portis discussion is absurd. Not even in reality.

The trade Betts discussion is less ridiculous, but still makes no sense. I agree COMPLETELY with the guy above. I wish we had the same depth at every position. And I do NOT agree that Betts is a starting caliber back either.


you're on point sir:notworthy

[robotfire]

I would hope that if we traded Portis to Houston, they wouldn't have a first round anymoreThe only thing I'd accept for Portis is Houston's ENTIRE draft. Anything less, and we're getting ripped off. Even then, it's an iffy trade.

[TheUSkins]

Realistically, I see Betts asking for raise, or attempting to get more money elsewhere. He has proven that in a season where he did not get all the starts he can still churn out 1100 yards. I think alot of you have CP blinders on. I like him too, but his injury proneness and season toughness worry me.


well, since he JUST signed a new contract, I don't reallu see that one happening

as far as CP, people seem to have betts bilnders on too...he was injured the past couple years as well. Plus, I think I remember CP having some minor injuries towards the end of last season but he was in there running all over the place, if that isn't toughness, what is?

Also, addressing Portis and durability, betts is the BEST possible answer to that! Prevents portis from rushing 30 times a game and keeps him healthy and durable

THe whole portis/betts combo seems like such a great solution for this team. our RB situation is solid. if it ain't broke, don't fix it.;..fix all the other crap that IS broken and NOT at the expense of our beastly RB situation

[flashback]

I think its going to be really difficult to get value for Portis. First of all, no trade partner is going to want to take on that contract the way its currently structured. Also, the Redskins have only $1M in cap space, so they couldn't trade him unless they redid the contract or freed up cap space by cutting/restructuring other players.

Secondly, no one is going to want to give up players/picks for a guy who's been injured, averaged about 4.1 ypc the past 3 years, and even though he's young, he's got over 1500 touches in the league already. The draft is a crapshoot, but you can find productive running backs even on the 2nd day.

IOW, Portis' value to the Redskins is probably higher than his value to any other team. And in the objective opinion of a Cowboy fan, the Skins are better off keeping Portis. Your offense is ranked 13th in the league in a year where your starter was benched for ineffectiveness. Your offensive line has gelled, and while they're not exactly dominant, they have played together at the same spots for a long time, and that's valuable.

You might not have a lot of draft picks, but draft for defense. Keep the nucleus of the team together for a change. You only won 5 games, but that number could double next year with a different schedule, the development of the QB, another year in Saunders system, etc. Things are not as bleak as they seem for the Redskins.

You do need to address that defense. Mostly at MLB. You need better play from your safeties, but you've got talent there. You need one more CB. McIntosh needs to take over Holdman's spot. Griffin, Golston and Carter are OK on the DL, you need an upgrade/rotation at the other end spot. But you can't play a 4-3 without a smart MLB. That's your #1 priority.

Sorry, this started as a trade Portis opinion, and turned into a whole off-season plan.

[TaylorPickSix]

I'd trade him for Demeco Ryans and a 2nd rounder...
Wait, what am I saying? I love CP! KEEP HIM!

[CustomApparelDirect]

:bsflag: Need I say more?





EXACTLY. Only a 'butt-wheeze' would even 'consider' trading-away a PREMIER RB, like CP (Portis is a 'BEAST/MEAST')!!! WTF?!? :doh: :mad: :(


Betts could NEVER make the following types of runs:


How dare ANY 'so-called' REDSKINS 'Fan' talk of trading-away CP (they SHOULD be 'KILLED')...:doh::doh::doh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29rXo44UbnM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29rXo44UbnM) :cheers: :applause: :helmet:

[FranchiseTY11]

No Thanks. CP is our LEADER

[TC4]

The regular season is BARELY over, and already the :pooh: has hit the fan!!!! :doh:

[mcarey032]

This is crazy talk. Particularly, if Betts fumbled again and cost the us the game again last night. I know that the defense didn't do that well. But they stiffened up in the end. The difference of both losses is 6-7 points.

[triple6mafia]

Don't do it, we need portis.

[atloldskin]

Portis is the heart and sole of this team. If you make a trade, you trade Betts.

[Drunken Master III]

I might disown this team if that happened.

[Drunken Master III]

I'd trade Betts for Demeco Ryans. That's all.

[HailSkinz1]

Portis is the heart and sole of this team. If you make a trade, you trade Betts.

Yeah, just like LaVar Arrington was the heart, soul, and face of this team huh?

Anything is possible. If anything, I think we all should have learned where there's smoke there's fire. Whenever the Redskins are rumored to be in some sort of trade talk or player acquisition, it often becomes reality, no matter how stupid it seems at the time.

If the Redskins can get something for either Betts or Portis, I'd be for a trade of either. No one on a team that went 5 - 11 and is 21 - 27 over the past three years is untouchable.

Some of you "fans" need to stop putting your preference for individual players over your allegiance to the team. It really puts into question who you cheer for.

Hail,

H

[XSean21TaylorX]

Yeah, just like LaVar Arrington was the heart, soul, and face of this team huh?

Anything is possible. If anything, I think we all should have learned where there's smoke there's fire. Whenever the Redskins are rumored to be in some sort of trade talk or player acquisition, it often becomes reality, no matter how stupid it seems at the time.

If the Redskins can get something for either Betts or Portis, I'd be for a trade of either. No one on a team that went 5 - 11 and is 21 - 27 over the past three years is untouchable.

Some of you "fans" need to stop putting your preference for individual players over your allegiance to the team. It really puts into question who you cheer for.

Hail,

H

please dont ever mention 56. in any disscussion... both guys are on two diffrent levels. in terms of wanting to be here, and what not. i would trade betts wayyyyy before i would trade portis, his potential alone is why we need him, hes the face of the redskins. im so sick of these trade portis threads. when its pretty clear portis is going to be our feature back. have u not seen the blunders of betts? fumbling in his last 3 games, one that cost us a game, again vs the giants. i dont need that as our feature back to fumble like that. the stats dont lie. so what is betts longest run? 20-25 yds, compared to portis 64 yds. betts can be our heavy carry back. clinton is going to be our home run hitter. and you might as well say your a so called "fan" beacuse its more than an individual player, he is clearly better than betts. when the ball is in portis's hands we have a chance every game. i dont feel the same way with betts.

[pR0JEkT 21]

WE ARE NOT TRADING PORTIS! You people are crazy..thats why its called a rumor..HELLLLLOOO! What kind of player would we get from that crappy team anyways come on guys think smart! :doh:

[Skins110]

Gibbs has said multiple times that both Betts and Portis will be here next year. And if there was a trade, trade Betts before CP!

[Smurf85]

Gibbs has said multiple times that both Betts and Portis will be here next year. And if there was a trade, trade Betts before CP!

Yeah and that alone should be why this thread should be closed.:doh:

[909997]

I am on the "trade one of em" bandwagon...it makes no sense to be having two starting calibur RB's with one of the worst defenses in Skins history.

betts is a backup he has more fumbles then tds thats not a starting rb

[skinfan2k]

Only idiots like in our front office and clueless fans who cant separate madden from reality think we are going to get a Hershel walker trade deal for Clinton Portis .

With the amount of young stellar running backs coming out this year and proof from the Patriots,Giants and Jaguars that you can get a RB in the second and third round you have to hope that GMs are completely ignorant.

people dont even research before they talk.. edge and SA didnot even get 2nd round picks when they were available.. portis is also coming off an injury and no team in their mind give up mroe than a 4th round pic

[Sportsmachine529]

cp isnt going anywhere. theyl probabally get rid of sellers and duckett before portis prob. in my opinion signing ladell betts to a 5 year contract extension was wrong, when in the past we have made clinton portis appear as our franchise player.

[CommishDC]

Fans:

Dont be surprised..........business is business in the NFL~

[Phixius]

WERE NOT TRADING PORTIS!!!! I dont want Portis traded. Imagine him doing the same cuts and read Ladell does, only difference is no one will catch him. All Portis needs to do is be patience.

[Lead Blocker]

Not going anywhere for a while
Portis... grab a snickers

Gibbs already said he has received several offers for both backs and neither is going anywhere.

[Combatant]

Gibbs already said he has received several offers for both backs and neither is going anywhere.

I must be out of the loop. When did he get offers for them? Do you have a link?

[deejaydana]

stop this nonsense.

[Lead Blocker]

I must be out of the loop. When did he get offers for them? Do you have a link?

He said it during his local radio show. After Betts signed the extension, he was asked what he would do if a team came along with a an empressive offer that was too good to turn down. In response he stated that he has already received offers in the past and that neither back was going anywhere.

He made it clear that he was not interested in losing CP or LB.

[Capt Rich Fla]

CP isn't going anywhere.I wouldn't be so sure about that.

[Combatant]

He said it during his local radio show. After Betts signed the extension, he was asked what he would do if a team came along with a an empressive offer that was too good to turn down. In response he stated that he has already received offers in the past and that neither back was going anywhere.

He made it clear that he was not interested in losing CP or LB.

Thanks

[joeknows]

ok this is in response to all the trade portis keep betts statements of the last 2 weeks. everyone trying to compare stats. im sick to death of the conversation but let me putr my 2 cents in again and ask this..... after betts fumbled again and arguably cost us this game...... does anyone really think betts could replace portis? if you still think he can ...... you are just stupid!!

[E-Dog Night]

That explains the 4067 posts. No opinion, just judgement. Way to go skippy.

Hmmmmm.....hypocritical irony, anyone? Did you even bother to look at my earlier posts from this thread alone?

Glad to see you're not bitter!

[DC_Native,NC_Fan]

CP and a 3rd rounder to Oakland for Warren Sapp. Gotta keep it consistent. :doh:

[phatboy41]

If we trade Clinton Portis it will be the biggest mistake this franchise has made.

[E-Dog Night]

CP and a 3rd rounder to Oakland for Warren Sapp. Gotta keep it consistent. :doh:

Nah...see, it's like this.

We restructure Portis' contract to the vet minimum (plus incentives, of course). Then we package him with Jason Campbell and trade him to the Texans for David Carr, Mario Williams, and their 1st rounder. Then we trade all that to the Chargers for LT. Then we trade Betts to the Jets & get Ramsey & Jonathan Vilma in return. Then we trade AA to Pittsburgh for Troy Palamalaalalalou. Dude, Sean Taylor and Troy Palamalaalalalou in the same defensive backfield. Epic!

Git R done!

[Gallntfox]

There was some speculation on 980 this past week that the Jets would make a run at Portis. After seeing Betts cough it up again in the Giants game I would say that it will remain just that...speculation.

[Stew]

Nah...see, it's like this.

We restructure Portis' contract to the vet minimum (plus incentives, of course). Then we package him with Jason Campbell and trade him to the Texans for David Carr, Mario Williams, and their 1st rounder. Then we trade all that to the Chargers for LT. Then we trade Betts to the Jets & get Ramsey & Jonathan Vilma in return. Then we trade AA to Pittsburgh for Troy Palamalaalalalou. Dude, Sean Taylor and Troy Palamalaalalalou in the same defensive backfield. Epic!

Git R done!


Im checking your math against Madden right now. :laugh: :D :silly: