Portis on Cold Pizza [Thread Jacked & Moved]

[Folami69]

Good morning everyone,

I saw saw that Clinton Portis will be on Cold Pizza this morning so I thought I'd share in case anyone was interested in seeing him.:)

[H-O-G]

Please anyone update us.

[Skins4481]

Please anyone update us.

shouldnt you be in school?

[H-O-G]

I am.

My school gives us laptops :)

http://www.cait.scps.k12.fl.us/index.php

[Taylor 36]

I am.

My school gives us laptops :)

http://www.cait.scps.k12.fl.us/index.php

Thanks for pointing out how much taxes dollars are being wasted.

[CGSKINS]

Thanks for pointing out how much taxes dollars are being wasted. Come on man! Give the young whippa snappa a break.:silly:

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Recaps are appreciated!

[andyburd]

Thanks for pointing out how much taxes dollars are being wasted.
Funny as hell, I agree, when I was in school a long time ago, we were not allowed to use calculators. Now I pay for kids to be on laptops in class. Wow, how the world has changed

[Taylor 36]

Funny as hell, I agree, when I was in school a long time ago, we were not allowed to use calculators. Now I pay for kids to be on laptops in class. Wow, how the world has changed

I know. I'm a teacher now, and it blows my mind to see all f the things that students are able to use in class today. If the US was hit by a pulse bomb and all electricity was wiped out, I doubt more than 15% of the 18 and under crowd would be able to function and survive.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

That is horrible that kids are on-line surfing the net during school.

Also, can anyone relay what CP says on CP?

Thanks!

[ntotoro]

Funny as hell, I agree, when I was in school a long time ago, we were not allowed to use calculators. Now I pay for kids to be on laptops in class. Wow, how the world has changed

[WILD TANGENT]

I helped my Wife proctor SATs last Saturday. They are allowed to use TI Scientific Calculators, but aren't allowed to write down or have programmed any equations, etcetera.

One kid left his/hers behind accidentally and I looked at it to see if there was a name engraved on the plastic somewhere (that was what we did in HS). There was no name, but written down on the backside of the case was ever equation he/she would possibly need for the SATs.

[/WILD TANGENT]

[authentic]

I know. I'm a teacher now, and it blows my mind to see all f the things that students are able to use in class today. If the US was hit by a pulse bomb and all electricity was wiped out, I doubt more than 15% of the 18 and under crowd would be able to function and survive.

wait a minute, kids are allowed to use calculators and laptops in class now?!

[Taylor 36]

wait a minute, kids are allowed to use calculators and laptops in class now?!

In Virginia, they use them on the SOL Exams. It is crazy. I teach English 11, but when I was trying to show students about their averages for the semester, almost every junior in my class had to whip out a calculator or a cell phone in order to add two numbers and then divide by two. SAD!!!!!

[macnoke03]

A thread titled "Portis on Cold Pizza" turns into a discussion about calculators and SAT's :laugh:

[Skin Patrol]

Isn't it possible, even likely, that the kid in question goes to a private school?

So what'd CP say again?

[dreamshatterer]

A thread titled "Portis on Cold Pizza" turns into a discussion about calculators and SAT's :laugh:

Flat out amazing. :silly:

[Skins4481]

wait a minute, kids are allowed to use calculators and laptops in class now?!

Yea. Even when I was in high school we were allowed to use calculators and laptops(if we had them). Without calculators even the smartest kids couldnt do simple math.

BTW, Clinton Portis is coming up next on Cold Pizza. He is in costume again and said he's Jerome Bettis' replacement.

[Skins4481]

Isn't it possible, even likely, that the kid in question goes to a private school?

So what'd CP say again?

That's what I thought but at the bottom of the website it says Seminole County Public Schools. Pretty sweet ass school if you ask me.

[Patrick86L]

I had a feeling CP would be in costume, why else would they want to have him on the show?

Someone please recap.

[Sinclair]

so...i guess nobody saw it..?

[Skins4481]

so...i guess nobody saw it..?

he still hasnt come up yet.

[Park City Skins]

So here are the adults blasting away at how kids these days use calculators and laptops, ( where we used about 5 pages of scrap paper, rulers, and such back a few hundred years ago), and yet said adults can't keep track of exactly what the thread was about . :doh:

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Laptops? In school? Sigh. :cool: ( I admit I had to read the post above to go "Oh yeah. CP. cold Pizza." :silly:

[BigRay]

I am.

My school gives us laptops :)

http://www.cait.scps.k12.fl.us/index.php


Dang things certainly has changed since I been out of school:( :laugh: .

[H-O-G]

Isn't it possible, even likely, that the kid in question goes to a private school?

So what'd CP say again?

Its Public school :laugh:

Keep in mind, I do live in Florida.

Don't worry. I have 6 A's and a B right now.

Its not as bad as it seems, we actually use the laptops for projects and stuff.

[NewJerseySkinsfan]

A thread titled "Portis on Cold Pizza" turns into a discussion about calculators and SAT's :laugh:

i know.. made me laugh as well :laugh:

[terpfan]

Damn Ive been in public school my whole life and we hardly had money for books much less laptops. But I'm in college now so I can post from school whenever I want on my own laptop. (ie. now) :)

When does Cold Pizza air? I try to avoid that crap show. If someone could provide a recap that would be nice.

[Burgold]

It's kind of funny. The calcs in class thing began as an accomodation for kids with academic disabilities... a way to give them even footing for those who could conceptionally understand the math, but their processing was so slow. Then parents began to gripe that these kids were getting an unfair advantage and that their kid should be accommodated. Now, look where we are. A world where plagarism is research and mathematical computation is a matter of pushing buttons. No thinking allowed.

[Hiro]

Its Public school :laugh:

Keep in mind, I do live in Florida.

Don't worry. I have 6 A's and a B right now.

Its not as bad as it seems, we actually use the laptops for projects and stuff.

hahah while they didn't give us laptops here in montgomery county when i was in high school (only 2 years removed) they gave us a ton of resources that my parents were always amazed at that we were allowed to use them.

high school seems to have evolved even more though, as my sister (who's a freshman) is now learning how to write computer programs and how to build catapults!

[Skins4481]

Portis was just on. No costume and they asked him about Miami. NOTHING about the Redskins.

Oh and Portis, Edge James, and Frank Gore are having a pool party at the Bentley hotel tomorrow from 2-6. :)

[kevinklein]

Coconut Jones!!!

[CPortJGibbs89]

So from this thread I learned that Portis was eating a cold pizza that he ordered by using a labtop and had to use a calculator to figure out how much he owed for the pizza... is that what you guys got?????

[Mr. S]

they give more resources, but you are usually expected to do in-depth stuff as a result. TI-83 were standard when I was in high school, but now there is better, heh. Laptops, wow.

At the mentoring gig I do, I was helping a 5th grader with some integer problems. She had to rank 3 numbers from lowest to highest, -1, +1, and -4 or something. Well, the directions say use the given number line for help. She looks at it and tells me she cannot find -1 but she knows it's between 0 and -2. I look at the line, lo and behold, there is no -1 listed there...:doh:.

And people wonder what is wrong with our educational system. When one of the top 10 best national school systems in Fairfax County can't even give out a proper number line, I wonder what else goes wrong.

BTW, what did CP say :laugh: ?

[Jumbo]

CP was unable to perform due to a teleprompter malfunction.

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Portis was just on. No costume and they asked him about Miami. NOTHING about the Redskins.

Oh and Portis, Edge James, and Frank Gore are having a pool party at the Bentley hotel tomorrow from 2-6. :)

THAT'S IT??? :mad:

[skinsman4u]

Its Public school :laugh:

Keep in mind, I do live in Florida.

Don't worry. I have 6 A's and a B right now.

Its not as bad as it seems, we actually use the laptops for projects and stuff.

6 As and a B, wow that's great keep up the good work. Maybe soemday you'll be our GM and get this debacle straitened out.

[eb94dt15]

what did portis say ?

[D'Pablo]

From the look of things, Portis said something about taxes, laptops, and TI-83s.

[Santana_Fan]

LOL this is hilarious

[Park City Skins]

From the look of things, Portis said something about taxes, laptops, and TI-83s.
And a pool party. Which we hope isn't the same as a boat party. :paranoid: :doh:

:)

[Santana_Fan]

From the look of things, Portis said something about taxes, laptops, and TI-83s.


Hopefully he said the yards he'll gain this upcoming season, wont be able to be calculated :D.

[thesubmittedone]

From the look of things, Portis said something about taxes, laptops, and TI-83s.


:laugh: :laugh:

NFL players should stick to football and stop trying to be politicians... sheesh.

[War Paint]

That is horrible that kids are on-line surfing the net during school.



LOL. Hell, I wish I could have looked up Redskin news in high school. It probably would have made school a little more tolerable and I wouldn't have skipped class so much. :laugh:

[pjfootballer]

Thanks for pointing out how much taxes dollars are being wasted.

So true. God forbid we pay the teachers for actually TEACHING students. Eh, just sit em in front of screen and they'll teach themselves.

[TriangleSkinsFan]

Go ahead bash the kid with the laptop at school...I bet most of you are suppossed to be at work doing something else anyway.

My kids use computers and calulators in school too, but my 6th grader is doing pre algebra. I don't have a problem with using tools to get a job done as long as it furthers your progress and understanding. If it is a crutch then no...I understand how a Cosine is derived but that doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to press the "cos" button on my calculator when trying to solve calculus equations.

My guess is that most of the players are going to stay quiet during the superbowl week etc, maybe after the probowl settles down and there is that lull waiting for free agency then players will pipe up some and be heard

[gca61087]

shouldnt you be in school?

shouldn't you be at work? or at least able to make threads?:silly:

[Silencer6091]

...can we change the title to this thread...its misleading...

[H-O-G]

Hi-jacked thread of the year, hands down.

[DiscoBob]

If train A leaves from the city 1 at 1:00 traveling at 30 mph going south, and train B leaves from city 2 traveling north at 2:00 traveling 25 mph. City 1 and city 2 are 150 miles apart, what time do the trains cross?

[Mackdaddydean]

Thanks for pointing out how much taxes dollars are being wasted.

Thanks for showing how out of the loop the older generations are. Anyone who actually pays attention to how colleges are run now KNOWS that a computer and internet access is a 100% necessity now. Teachers post things online and only online, grades are no longer given out on paper report cards, many written papers REQUIRE internet sources, not to mention the more efficient ability to organize your notes, papers, and homework. I'd rather tax dollars go to helping out those who are ambitious enough to seek higher education than to some family who is poor due to their own laziness.

[TLusby]

.... when I was in school a long time ago, we were not allowed to use calculators.

They had very few calculators when we were in school (I am the same age). They had them around 1979 & 1980 when I was a Freshman in college and my scholarship bought a TI-52 for about $150.

[TriangleSkinsFan]

If train A leaves from the city 1 at 1:00 traveling at 30 mph going south, and train B leaves from city 2 traveling north at 2:00 traveling 25 mph. City 1 and city 2 are 150 miles apart, what time do the trains cross?


This should be if THREAD A heads south......

[TLusby]

Thanks for showing how out of the loop the older generations are. Anyone who actually pays attention to how colleges are run now KNOWS that a computer and internet access is a 100% necessity now. Teachers post things online and only online, grades are no longer given out on paper report cards, many written papers REQUIRE internet sources, not to mention the more efficient ability to organize your notes, papers, and homework. I'd rather tax dollars go to helping out those who are ambitious enough to seek higher education than to some family who is poor because due to their own laziness.

So if it's that much more efficient; why does only 33% of college kids graduate in FIVE years! This is pathetic! I graduated in four years and worked 15-20 hours per week, and so did my peers! We actually had to get up from the couch and go to the library and research our papers using the dewey-decimal system. We did not have the luxury of Google.

[Mackdaddydean]

So if it's that much more efficient; why does only 33% of college kids graduate in FIVE years! This is pathetic! I graduated in four years and worked 15-20 hours per week, and so did my peers! We actually had to get up from the couch and go to the library and research our papers using the dewey-decimal system. We did not have the luxury of Google.

Well you see, because we are able to get things done quicker and better, we are able to have more time for things that are social and fun therefore making it harder for us to leave that behind so quickly. Furthermore, If you really investigate, youll find that most people who stay a 5th year stay because they want to, not because they couldn't graduate in 4. Not to mention many study abroad programs that are available now that weren't back in the day offer not only a classroom education but a cultural one, often lengthening college careers by at least one semester. Any more quesitons?

[Sniffler]

So true. God forbid we pay the teachers for actually TEACHING students. Eh, just sit em in front of screen and they'll teach themselves.


Hey, watch it!!! I'm a teacher and from your comment you are implying that I don't do my job... thats not true.... I make my kids work hard while I "work" on my computer... :D

[Sniffler]

If train A leaves from the city 1 at 1:00 traveling at 30 mph going south, and train B leaves from city 2 traveling north at 2:00 traveling 25 mph. City 1 and city 2 are 150 miles apart, what time do the trains cross?


The same time.... thats a little old... my third graders know that one

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One time I was with Portis in the back of a pickup truck, along with a live deer. Portis goes up to the deer and says, 'I'm Clinton Portis! SAY IT!' Then he manipulates the deer's lips in such a way as to make it say, 'Clintonportis' ... It wasn't exactly like it, but it was pretty good for a deer!

[skinzfan112]

Will someone close this ridiculous THREAD!

[CPortJGibbs89]

One time I was with Portis in the back of a pickup truck, along with a live deer. Portis goes up to the deer and says, 'I'm Clinton Portis! SAY IT!' Then he manipulates the deer's lips in such a way as to make it say, 'Clintonportis' ... It wasn't exactly like it, but it was pretty good for a deer!No freaking way dude I dont believe that for one minute....;)

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

I know. I'm a teacher now, and it blows my mind to see all f the things that students are able to use in class today. If the US was hit by a pulse bomb and all electricity was wiped out, I doubt more than 15% of the 18 and under crowd would be able to function and survive.
This country wouldn't be able to survivie. Think about all the things that uses computers and such. So to be fair to the 18 and under crowd it's society as a whole now, not just them.

[Koolblue13]

4 damn pages i just had to go through just to find out portis is having a pool party,are you kidding me.i've got dial up here!this just wasted about 10 minutes of my day.it's more irritating then the drafting C.J. talk or how bad we need a g.m. talk!please delete this aweful thread!

[e16bball]

If train A leaves from the city 1 at 1:00 traveling at 30 mph going south, and train B leaves from city 2 traveling north at 2:00 traveling 25 mph. City 1 and city 2 are 150 miles apart, what time do the trains cross?


The same time.... thats a little old... my third graders know that one

And here I was being lame and trying to actually figure it out :laugh:

(BTW, I got a little after 4, but sorry for the lack of precision; didn't want to get hammered for using a calculator ;) )


So if it's that much more efficient; why does only 33% of college kids graduate in FIVE years! This is pathetic! I graduated in four years and worked 15-20 hours per week, and so did my peers! We actually had to get up from the couch and go to the library and research our papers using the dewey-decimal system. We did not have the luxury of Google.

Not saying that this would totally explain the phenomenon of the "5 year plan", but might a lot of it have to do with the fact that a much larger percentage of the population is now attending college? According to this article, over 60% of high school graduates now apply to college, as opposed to less than 50% in 1980, when I assume you and your peers attended college.

http://www.president.psu.edu/editorials/articles/2004demography.html

It seems fairly clear to me that a LARGE majority of these students would be kids who originally would not have been considered (or considered themselves) college material based on their academic performance. Certainly some would be top-notch kids who have benefited from extended financial aid, but I'd think the majority are probably slightly less able kids. I don't think anyone would say it's a bad thing to educate more kids, but it DOES seem possible to me that at least this new breed of college student would require a little more time to complete his degree. So maybe that explains a least a portion of the "5 year plan" phenomenon?

Just a thought.

[CPortJGibbs89]

4 damn pages i just had to go through just to find out portis is having a pool party,are you kidding me.i've got dial up here!this just wasted about 10 minutes of my day.it's more irritating then the drafting C.J. talk or how bad we need a g.m. talk!please delete this aweful thread!I see your new around these parts, welcome to ExtremeSkins my friend, just relax and have some fun....:cheers:

[manleyistheman]

If train A leaves from the city 1 at 1:00 traveling at 30 mph going south, and train B leaves from city 2 traveling north at 2:00 traveling 25 mph. City 1 and city 2 are 150 miles apart, what time do the trains cross?

At approximately 4:10 and 48 seconds.

[[[ghost]]]

I go to school, and, hoping to double major in psychology and computer graphic design, am on the computer a LOT. After I finish my work in Photography, my teachers let me either mess around on Photoshop, or Responsibly surf the net. Extremeskins.com and thelacrosseforums.com are two sites I often visit between 11:45 and 12:25. But I only do this when I finish my work. So I don't see the problem.

[andyburd]

So here are the adults blasting away at how kids these days use calculators and laptops, ( where we used about 5 pages of scrap paper, rulers, and such back a few hundred years ago), and yet said adults can't keep track of exactly what the thread was about . :doh:

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Laptops? In school? Sigh. :cool: ( I admit I had to read the post above to go "Oh yeah. CP. cold Pizza." :silly:
Just trying to have some humor smart arse, unlike our season

[blitzpackage]

]']But I only do this when I finish my work. So I don't see the problem.

That's because there isn't a problem. I'm getting paid at work to type this message. I think it might be a little more of a jealousy problem considering we couldn't even bring walkmans to school in my day!:D

[BKSkinsFan]

Another math question, if Clinton Portis is having a pool party at 8p.m. and Ray Lewis along with a few Cincinnati Bengals show up, what time are the cops called?

[DiscoBob]

At approximately 4:10 and 48 seconds.

I got 4:10:55, but hey, close enough, YOU GET A GOLD STAR!

[DiscoBob]

Another math question, if Clinton Portis is having a pool party at 8p.m. and Ray Lewis along with a few Cincinnati Bengals show up, what time are the cops called?

That depends. If the party is in Maimi and Shaq is the cop...I'd say about 12:00, just when the party starts hopping....

[G-Prime]

This thread has severely pissed me off..

CP is not happy.. CP doesn't care about the ****ing train. CP doesn't need a calculator. Cuz CP doesn't do math.. Math does CP.

[KingGibbs]

This thread has severely pissed me off..

CP is not happy.. CP doesn't care about the ****ing train. CP doesn't need a calculator. Cuz CP doesn't do math.. Math does CP.

Oh he does the math alright. Everytime he makes a withdrawal.

That's one Benjamin's, that's two Benjamin's......that's fifty Benjamin's. :)

[DiscoBob]

This thread has severely pissed me off..

CP is not happy.. CP doesn't care about the ****ing train. CP doesn't need a calculator. Cuz CP doesn't do math.. Math does CP.

huh huh huh.....is math a dude?

[Taylor 36]

Thanks for showing how out of the loop the older generations are. Anyone who actually pays attention to how colleges are run now KNOWS that a computer and internet access is a 100% necessity now. Teachers post things online and only online, grades are no longer given out on paper report cards, many written papers REQUIRE internet sources, not to mention the more efficient ability to organize your notes, papers, and homework. I'd rather tax dollars go to helping out those who are ambitious enough to seek higher education than to some family who is poor due to their own laziness.

Ignorance is bliss.....so you must be very blissful..

First, I am a high school teacher and I can tell you first hand that many of today's students are missing a lot of the fundamentals in their understanding and knowledge. My primary job is to prepare students for college, and I meet at least once a month with college deans and recruiters and hear the horror stories from their positions about today's college students. They, the students, are very handicapped when it comes to true understanding and analysis because of their limited basic knowledge and skills due to their reliance on technology.

Second, you are totally "out of the loop" if you think that the use of technology in college is the same as the use in grade school or high school. They expect you to know the basics by the time you get to college, hence them allowing and expecting the use the laptops and other technology. An engineer has many technological tools to help make his job easier, nonetheless, he is expected by his firm and peers to know how to handle his job and do calculations properly if his calculator breaks or fails.
Unfortunately, students these days only know how to press a button or two to find their answers. Take away their computer or calculator and they are screwed.

Third, stemming off of the loss of basic skills and knowledge, many of today's high school students can't do basic research on or off line. They are so used to finding websites and blogs to print information off of and use as their own that they know no other way, regardless of what they are taught to do in English class. They always fall back to their computers. Even though internet sources are required a lot in college, basic print sources are still required more times than not along with the electronic source.

I'm not saying that technology should not be used at all in grade school and high school, but students should not be given free reign over their academics with it. Plus, if the school board is furnishing all of this technology with tax money (which they are in public schools), it is pathetic that the technology is being used to surf the net instead of being used solely for educational purposes. Never mind the teacher, who is also getting paid with tax payer's money, that is being completed ignored, therefore unable to effectively do his/her job, because students are on a football message board instead of paying attention in class.

Basically, it is not the older generation that is "out of the loop" with technology; it is that there are many people who have no clue at all the process the human brain must go through to actually "learn" and not just be trained like a monkey's brain.

[cscmtp]

zzzzzzzzzzzzz, wake me up when someone talks about Portis....

[G-Prime]

huh huh huh.....is math a dude?

Math is a fine ass ho!

[Mr. S]

This thread has severely pissed me off..

CP is not happy.. CP doesn't care about the ****ing train. CP doesn't need a calculator. Cuz CP doesn't do math.. Math does CP.

CP doesn't care about proper grammar either, as referenced by his "we aint did nothin!" quote.

[Califan007]

What the...you mean they don't use an abacus in school anymore?

[Jahbird]

People go to school for five years because colleges change their degree requirements every two to three years. Everytime that change is made there are more than a handful of students who have to stay for an extra year to make up for the discrepancies between their catalogue year and current graduation requirements. Furthermore, budget cuts to education have caused many colleges to close their counseling programs which leaves professors to advise students on the courses to take. Many professors, though experts in their fields, are unable to properly maintain the everchanging degree requirements. On top of all that, a teaching certificate takes five years minimum these days as do a lot of other specialized degrees. As far as computers are concerned it was your adminastrative generation that allowed them in the class room. It was people from the older generation, who (at least in the state of Virginia) are highly trained on effective teaching techniques that made the decision to place these tools into the hands of students. How many of us still use sticks and tender to light the fires we cook with? How many of us use a crank to start our cars? The same kids who can not do a math problem without a calculator also cannot write a proper scentence without Microsoft Word. Yet, word is possibly the most used program in the real world today. Many of you, I suspect, would struggle with your spelling and grammar without the programs spell checker. Do we, the young and helpless, condemn you? BTW the chinese use calculators before the advent of electricity in the form of an abacus, would anyone argue that they dont know their math?

[Whiskeypeet]

Move this piece of **** thread to the tailgate where it belongs.

[DieHardWSHfan]

As a high school student in Anne Arundel County, i do believe we use technology a lot, but the only people who are absolutely dependent upon them are those that wouldn't understand the material even if calculators hadn't been invented. I for one have straight As, every marking period, every class, and every final, yet it is still much simpler to use a calculator on a timed test than freak out about every last detail of showing your work. My personal preference is doing the math in my head, as its shorter than taking time to hit buttons, but for those generations looking back at today's generation, also consider the class we're taking. Were you taking Pre-Calculus, AP Statistics, Honors Chemistry, French III, Honors English, AP European History, etc., all in the same semester your sophomore year? It gets extremely stressful, and stress can be relieved through making things easier.

[JaimeDeCurry]

Oh hey! A kitten!

http://www.knitemare.org/cats/cookieday.jpg



(Is that enough to warrant this thread being killed?)

[ntotoro]

Another math question, if Clinton Portis is having a pool party at 8p.m. and Ray Lewis along with a few Cincinnati Bengals show up, what time are the cops called?

7:56 PM

[EnFoRcEr_uPu]

7:56 PM

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:: laugh:

[TLusby]

Well you see, because we are able to get things done quicker and better, we are able to have more time for things that are social and fun therefore making it harder for us to leave that behind so quickly. Furthermore, If you really investigate, youll find that most people who stay a 5th year stay because they want to, not because they couldn't graduate in 4. Not to mention many study abroad programs that are available now that weren't back in the day offer not only a classroom education but a cultural one, often lengthening college careers by at least one semester. Any more quesitons?

I am glad my kid is graduating this May in four years. So who pays for all of this "social well being" and the fifth year? If the answer is your parents; I would say you have "raped them"!

[redskin81]

:doh: I just read the whole thread hoping to get some info on what CP said.

[H-O-G]

Wow, post of the year,


shouldnt you be in school?

It started the best hi-jacked thread I have ever seen :D

[southskinsfan]

Flat out amazing. :silly:

I agree. I thought I was the only SIMPLETON thinking this.:doh:

[OrangeSkin]

So if it's that much more efficient; why does only 33% of college kids graduate in FIVE years! This is pathetic! I graduated in four years and worked 15-20 hours per week, and so did my peers! We actually had to get up from the couch and go to the library and research our papers using the dewey-decimal system. We did not have the luxury of Google.

"Back in my day, we walked 15 miles barefoot through the snow to get to school! Uphill both ways!"

http://webnz.co.nz/checkers/grumpy.gif

[Skins4481]

Wow, post of the year,



It started the best hi-jacked thread I have ever seen :D

WTF have I done... :doh:

[Skins4481]

I am glad my kid is graduating this May in four years. So who pays for all of this "social well being" and the fifth year? If the answer is your parents; I would say you have "raped them"!

Your kid graduated in 4 years? That is pretty amazing. As for me, I'm on year 3 of the 8 year plan. :laugh:

[WVUforREDSKINS]

I'm graduating in 4 1/2. I changed majors 3 times and ended up with classes that I really don't need.

It is almost rare to graduate in 4 years now.


I just farted

[Skins4481]

I just farted


I think I just sharted. I'm not 100% sure though.

[skinsfan07]

I get on ES at school during 2nd, 4th and sometimes 1st and 7th period. My classes are all easy as hell and the only class that requires me do work which is web design, I don't ever do it. I just chill until like 2 weeks are left until the semester ends, and just cram it in there and turn it in. My teacher is cool so she always accepts it anyway and I stil get the A. LOL

[Enter Apotheosis]

I am glad my kid is graduating this May in four years. So who pays for all of this "social well being" and the fifth year? If the answer is your parents; I would say you have "raped them"!

Student loans?

[PSUHeckler]

In Virginia, they use them on the SOL Exams. It is crazy. I teach English 11, but when I was trying to show students about their averages for the semester, almost every junior in my class had to whip out a calculator or a cell phone in order to add two numbers and then divide by two. SAD!!!!!

It's not because we have to - at least in most cases - it's because we're too lazy.... that's all :)

[Mooka]

Good lord he goes to a technical school. Geeze, lighten up.

I think some of you are really overestimating the price the school pays for laptops anyway, I bet they get them cheaper then the average textbook.

[Enter Apotheosis]

Good lord he goes to a technical school. Geeze, lighten up.

I think some of you are really overestimating the price the school pays for laptops anyway, I bet they get them cheaper then the average textbook.

I dunno, school is essentially a function of the government... which overpays for everything. Considering the quantity of laptops being purchased it may be a deal, but not nearly as good a deal as it should be.

[Mackdaddydean]

Ignorance is bliss.....so you must be very blissful..

First, I am a high school teacher and I can tell you first hand that many of today's students are missing a lot of the fundamentals in their understanding and knowledge. My primary job is to prepare students for college, and I meet at least once a month with college deans and recruiters and hear the horror stories from their positions about today's college students. They, the students, are very handicapped when it comes to true understanding and analysis because of their limited basic knowledge and skills due to their reliance on technology.

Second, you are totally "out of the loop" if you think that the use of technology in college is the same as the use in grade school or high school. They expect you to know the basics by the time you get to college, hence them allowing and expecting the use the laptops and other technology. An engineer has many technological tools to help make his job easier, nonetheless, he is expected by his firm and peers to know how to handle his job and do calculations properly if his calculator breaks or fails.
Unfortunately, students these days only know how to press a button or two to find their answers. Take away their computer or calculator and they are screwed.

Third, stemming off of the loss of basic skills and knowledge, many of today's high school students can't do basic research on or off line. They are so used to finding websites and blogs to print information off of and use as their own that they know no other way, regardless of what they are taught to do in English class. They always fall back to their computers. Even though internet sources are required a lot in college, basic print sources are still required more times than not along with the electronic source.

I'm not saying that technology should not be used at all in grade school and high school, but students should not be given free reign over their academics with it. Plus, if the school board is furnishing all of this technology with tax money (which they are in public schools), it is pathetic that the technology is being used to surf the net instead of being used solely for educational purposes. Never mind the teacher, who is also getting paid with tax payer's money, that is being completed ignored, therefore unable to effectively do his/her job, because students are on a football message board instead of paying attention in class.

Basically, it is not the older generation that is "out of the loop" with technology; it is that there are many people who have no clue at all the process the human brain must go through to actually "learn" and not just be trained like a monkey's brain.

I'm glad you put so much thought into this but uh....did I EVER ONCE mention grade school or high school there bucko? College is what i was referring to. Nor did i mention any poor students who probably didnt do good in high school either. I simply said, the University requires a TON of information to be retrieved from their internet sites (i.e. Assignments, Grades, Lecture Notes, Study Guides, etc etc). In addition to that, it makes writting papers a ton better and a ton faster. Ahh to be humbled...

[Mackdaddydean]

People go to school for five years because colleges change their degree requirements every two to three years. Everytime that change is made there are more than a handful of students who have to stay for an extra year to make up for the discrepancies between their catalogue year and current graduation requirements. Furthermore, budget cuts to education have caused many colleges to close their counseling programs which leaves professors to advise students on the courses to take. Many professors, though experts in their fields, are unable to properly maintain the everchanging degree requirements. On top of all that, a teaching certificate takes five years minimum these days as do a lot of other specialized degrees. As far as computers are concerned it was your adminastrative generation that allowed them in the class room. It was people from the older generation, who (at least in the state of Virginia) are highly trained on effective teaching techniques that made the decision to place these tools into the hands of students. How many of us still use sticks and tender to light the fires we cook with? How many of us use a crank to start our cars? The same kids who can not do a math problem without a calculator also cannot write a proper scentence without Microsoft Word. Yet, word is possibly the most used program in the real world today. Many of you, I suspect, would struggle with your spelling and grammar without the programs spell checker. Do we, the young and helpless, condemn you? BTW the chinese use calculators before the advent of electricity in the form of an abacus, would anyone argue that they dont know their math?

:notworthy A logical and reasonable man. FINALLY.

[Mackdaddydean]

I am glad my kid is graduating this May in four years. So who pays for all of this "social well being" and the fifth year? If the answer is your parents; I would say you have "raped them"!

Unfortunately, I have been forced to pay with my own money, scholarships and loans. And you may be glad your kid is graduating in four years, but i promise you as soon as he leaves he'll wish he was back. Plus its just 1 year out of his ENTIRE LIFE...Remember friend, money comes and goes, jobs are just jobs, but great memories and times made with your friends in college...those never fade.

Hail the Victory Lap.

[G-Prime]

I think I just sharted. I'm not 100% sure though.

Check consistancy

[TD_washingtonredskins]

Unfortunately, I have been forced to pay with my own money, scholarships and loans. And you may be glad your kid is graduating in four years, but i promise you as soon as he leaves he'll wish he was back. Plus its just 1 year out of his ENTIRE LIFE...Remember friend, money comes and goes, jobs are just jobs, but great memories and times made with your friends in college...those never fade.

Hail the Victory Lap.

As much as I viewed college that way when I was 20, I am glad I worked hard to get through in 4 years. It took some loaded semesters and some classes during the summer one year, but I did it.

Agreed, the memories are wonderful, but I think working hard to accomplish a goal is much more valuable. I had a great time with all my friends and we still stay in touch. However, I think it's better to know that I was able to figure out a way to accomplish my 4-year goal even though I fell behind early on. That showed me and trained me to be able to attain a sense of urgency that has served me well in the workplace. The memories, though nice, have not helped too much in that department...

One more thing...though college is amazing, I found that the first couple years AFTER college were the most fun. You still have the same mentality when it comes to going out and all...but you have money at your disposal and more time on your hands. :2cents:

[Mackdaddydean]

As much as I viewed college that way when I was 20, I am glad I worked hard to get through in 4 years. It took some loaded semesters and some classes during the summer one year, but I did it.

Agreed, the memories are wonderful, but I think working hard to accomplish a goal is much more valuable. I had a great time with all my friends and we still stay in touch. However, I think it's better to know that I was able to figure out a way to accomplish my 4-year goal even though I fell behind early on. That showed me and trained me to be able to attain a sense of urgency that has served me well in the workplace. The memories, though nice, have not helped too much in that department...

One more thing...though college is amazing, I found that the first couple years AFTER college were the most fun. You still have the same mentality when it comes to going out and all...but you have money at your disposal and more time on your hands. :2cents:

Where did i say i wasn't working hard? I have 3.8 while being involved in Student Activites, a Fraternity, and Intramural sports. The point you are making is not about staying in college for an extra year, its simply working hard at college regardless of time spent. You say you're glad you got done in 4 because "you attained a sense of urgency that has served you well in the workplace." Once again missing my point. It's not that we CAN'T finish in 4, its that we WANT to stay. It's that we HAVE worked urgently enough to be able to say i can graduate next semester or I can lighten my load and go to Spain on a study abroad trip with my Best Friend for example. See because while im sure the working place is as "amazing" as you say it is....when we're old and grey....its those times we had that will matter. Not the "real world." Anyway I'm attending law school as well, so i've got plenty of time left in school, I'm going to milk being an undergrad because these people mean more to me than some false sense of urgency getting to a job.