Boston Globe: Marketing Gambit Exposes Wide Generation Gap

[Mass_SkinsFan]

I'm sure that some of you have heard of the fuhror created yesterday in Boston when nearly a dozen 'packages' that were apparently part of an advertising campaign for a late-night children's program were mistaken for IED's and kept the Boston Police Department Bomb Squad running around the city for most of the day.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/02/01/marketing_gambit_exposes_a_wide_generation_gap/

News reports I heard this morning suggested that the city may have spent close to $750K yesterday closing roads, bridges, and parts of the river during these 'bomb' removals. I'm really hoping the city sends the Advertising company and Turner Broadcasting a bill for that money.

So, what do you folks think..... Was this the city over-reacting or was this one of the stupidest advertising ideas in human history?

[Larry]

It's one of those questions that doesn't have a "right" answer.

Was DHS Boston simply panicking and over-reacting?

Or were the other cities complacent?

(Either argument is simply a "maybe".)

[Mass_SkinsFan]

Here's what the Boston Herald had to say about the incident:

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=180378

[AsburySkinsFan]

10 cities had the "guerilla advertising" campaign and only 1 decided to pull a Chicken Little. Hmmmm. Interesting how Seattle knew immediately what it was all about, and Boston had better drop the charges against those guys.

http://blog.clickz.com/story.cartoon.adultswim.jpg
AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Al Queda is attacking us with bad cartoons!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RUN Forest RUN!!!

[Larry]

Problem with prosecuting the people who did it is: You have to prove that they intended people to think they were bombs.

Good luck, Mr. Prosecutor. You may be making things worse, here.

I'd recommend that the official reaction should be to wait a day or two.

[rincewind]

Boston needs more culture... or stoners.

[AsburySkinsFan]

Problem with prosecuting the people who did it is: You have to prove that they intended people to think they were bombs.

Good luck, Mr. Prosecutor. You may be making things worse, here.

I'd recommend that the official reaction should be to wait a day or two.

The mayor is PO'ed and embarassed and he's clearly overreacting, and he's making himself look like a fool in doing so.

[AsburySkinsFan]

Heck I'm out here in Kentucky just south of Lexington, in Redneck central. Our people are not what you would call up on pop culture, but this crap wouldn't have happened out here, people would have looked up and said, "Hmmm, look at that blinky thing, it looks like something from ATARI."

[rincewind]

On second thought these moon people are definitely dangerous. Listen to the recording they found - believed to be of two high ranking moon people while dropping the 'bombs' off in Boston:


http://www.mcpeepants.com/sounds/004mayhemofthemooninites/mayhemofthemooninites2.mp3

[chomerics]

The mayor is PO'ed and embarassed and he's clearly overreacting, and he's making himself look like a fool in doing so.

Actually, at first, I was like :wtf: IT WAS A FREAKIN CARTOON CHARACTER!!!

But you have to think about it from the prospective of the city. If there was a terrorist attack, would they not plan something like this? I think they did the right thing here, even if it was over reacting. When you run a major metropolitan city, you have to take EVERY threat seriously, EVERY one. Because if you do not, it could mean the lives of thousands of people.

The problem with this stunt was that they were placed on bridges and landmarks throughout the city :doh: not too bright in a post 9-11 world to place a circuit board, wires and batteries all over landmarks now is it?

[chomerics]

Heck I'm out here in Kentucky just south of Lexington, in Redneck central. Our people are not what you would call up on pop culture, but this crap wouldn't have happened out here, people would have looked up and said, "Hmmm, look at that blinky thing, it looks like something from ATARI."

And that is because in Kentucky you don't have to worry about a terrorist threat. Think about it for a while would ya. . .

[chomerics]

Boston needs more culture... or stoners.

Ummm, with a transient population of over 400,000 college kids, I don't think stoners is more of what Boston needs :laugh:

[Larry]

Heck I'm out here in Kentucky just south of Lexington, in Redneck central. Our people are not what you would call up on pop culture, but this crap wouldn't have happened out here, people would have looked up and said, "Hmmm, look at that blinky thing, it looks like something from ATARI."

Yep.

Al Qeda would never put LEDs on a bomb and plant it somewhere, unannounced, in a highly-traveled, public, high-profile location, and wait for a bunch of people to gather 'round it and state at the blinky lights.

And any "real" Police Officer (what percentage, you suppose, of police officers are former military or even reservists, who may, for example, have visited Iraq recently) would know that if he saw such a thing that he shouldn't even call it in and start things rolling, should he?

[Mass_SkinsFan]

Personally, I think that at the very least these people should be charged with Vandalism and Defacing Public Property. I'd like to see the book thrown at them, no matter what they are eventually charged with.

People need to remember that some of those planes that crashed on September 11th, 2001 started that morning at Logan International Airport in BOSTON, MA. The city has taken the concept of security much more seriously since then, and they don't tend to mess around anymore with anything that they can't readily identify.

Turner Broadcasting and the Advertising agency could have saved themselves a lot of grief by simply letting the Boston PD and Mayor's office know what was going on. they didn't. Now they're reaping the rewards of that lack of common sense.

[chomerics]

Turner Broadcasting and the Advertising agency could have saved themselves a lot of grief by simply letting the Boston PD and Mayor's office know what was going on. they didn't. Now they're reaping the rewards of that lack of common sense.

I think there in lies the issue of negligence. The entire viral marketing scheming that is rampant throughout society had a drawback as well, and we are seeing that side of it.

[AsburySkinsFan]

And that is because in Kentucky you don't have to worry about a terrorist threat. Think about it for a while would ya. . .

Yeah, no reason to attack out here, I mean we only have the second largest stock-pile of biological and chemical weapons in the country at the Bluegrass Army Depot (which just happens to be 15 minutes from my house). No reason any terrorist would want that stuff, I mean its Kentucky what do we have right?

http://www.pmacwa.army.mil/ky/

*edit* Bluegrass Army Depot Stockpile information */edit*
AGENT.......... ITEM........... QUANTITY..... POUNDS
HD-Blister 155mm Projectiles 15,492 181,260
GB-Nerve 8-inch Projectiles 3,977 57,660
GB-Nerve M55 Rockets 51,716 553,360
GB-Nerve M56 Rocket Warheads 24 260
VX-Nerve 155mm Projectiles 12,816 76,900
VX-Nerve M55 Rockets 17,733 177,340
VX-Nerve M56 Rocket Warheads 6 60

[chomerics]

Yeah, no reason to attack out here, I mean we only have the second largest stock-pile of biological and chemical weapons in the country at the Bluegrass Army Depot (which just happens to be 15 minutes from my house). No reason any terrorist would want that stuff, I mean its Kentucky what do we have right?

You really are clueless aren't you? do you even know WHY they attack us, or what their reasoning is behind everything? That place isn't on their top 1000 lists of places to attack, not even close.

Lets see, I can go to a heavily fortified Army base and try to attack a munitions dump, or I can attack unguarded bridges and tunnels in Boston. Yea, I'm going with the munitions dump :doh:

Think McFly THINK!!!


On more thing, seeing how Bechtel Parsons is responsible for building the chemical weapons destruction facility, you must feel REEEEALLLLL safe :laugh:

[AsburySkinsFan]

You really are clueless aren't you? do you even know WHY they attack us, or what their reasoning is behind everything? That place isn't on their top 1000 lists of places to attack, not even close.

Lets see, I can go to a heavily fortified Army base and try to attack a munitions dump, or I can attack unguarded bridges and tunnels in Boston. Yea, I'm going with the munitions dump :doh:

Think McFly THINK!!!

Heavily fortified?! Not hardly, the thing is guarded by a civilian security force. It's not an Army base like you're thinking. It has a few barbed wire fences at different levels, trust me this thing is not a "heavily fortified Army base". Not even close.

[chomerics]

Heavily fortified?! Not hardly, the thing is guarded by a civilian security force. It's not an Army base like you're thinking. It has a few barbed wire fences at different levels, trust me this thing is not a "heavily fortified Army base". Not even close.


Well then better pack up now because Al Qaeda's a comin after you :doh:

Do you HONESTLY believe they would go after a place like that??? honestly??? Or are you just pulling everyone's chain? Because if you HONESTLY believe that is on their list, or a high priority of theirs, you haven't a clue as to how the enemy operates.

[AsburySkinsFan]

On more thing, seeing how Bechtel Parsons is responsible for building the chemical weapons destruction facility, you must feel REEEEALLLLL safe :laugh:
When people move within so many miles of the Depot, the city supplies them with window plastic and duct tape in case of emergency. Every year or so an article appears in the paper about a new resident to the area freaking out about the "safety" measures. My town is actually in the hazard area, and if the winds are to the South West at the time of an accident, we would be evacuated. When I was on the Vol. Fire Department we used to practice running our evacuation announcements, which was us driving around town telling on our loudspeakers everyone to get out of dodge.

[AsburySkinsFan]

Well then better pack up now because Al Qaeda's a comin after you :doh:

Do you HONESTLY believe they would go after a place like that??? honestly??? Or are you just pulling everyone's chain? Because if you HONESTLY believe that is on their list, or a high priority of theirs, you haven't a clue as to how the enemy operates.

yeah, and Al Queda is infamous for their cartoon bombs. double :doh: :doh:

[Dan T.]

Chom, you're really coming across as an East Coast elitist snob. "My city is MUCH more likely to be attacked than your little backwater State." It's petty.

As to this viral marketing stunt- right now the bottom line, like it or not, is that it has worked WAY above Turner's or the ad agency's wildest expectations. Even if they have to reimburse the city of Boston's expenses for shutting down roads and finding the devices, they've gotten more publicity for their little cartoon than they ever expected.

[chomerics]

Chom, you're really coming across as an East Coast elitist snob. "My city is MUCH more likely to be attacked than your little backwater State." It's petty.

OK, so a person from Kentucky telling me that the city I lived in was foolish for actually taking a threat seriously, yet I am a snob for saying they would not want to attack Kentucky? Sorry, but being a city where one of the 9-11 planes was from, and having a friends father die on one of the planes kind of touches a nerve with me. Especially when I hear someone from Kentucky tell me that we are being foolish for taking precautions in a post 9-11 world.

If that is being elitist and snobbish, so be it. I honestly do not think a munitions dump 15 in the middle of nowhere in Kentucky is anywhere near the threat as a major metropolitan city, but hey maybe I am wrong. Maybe they want to kill all the bluegrass in KY, and make Louisville the next target, but for some reason I am not thinking it is high on their list. . .

[chomerics]

As to this viral marketing stunt- right now the bottom line, like it or not, is that it has worked WAY above Turner's or the ad agency's wildest expectations. Even if they have to reimburse the city of Boston's expenses for shutting down roads and finding the devices, they've gotten more publicity for their little cartoon than they ever expected.

Absolutely. The people around here are calling to have them all fired and fined, but if I am Time-Warner, I secretly hire these people back at double the money. They just got more publicity then they ever would have with their little viril marketing scheme.

[dfitzo53]

OK, so a person from Kentucky telling me that the city I lived in was foolish for actually taking a threat seriously, yet I am a snob for saying they would not want to attack Kentucky? Sorry, but being a city where one of the 9-11 planes was from, and having a friends father die on one of the planes kind of touches a nerve with me. Especially when I hear someone from Kentucky tell me that we are being foolish for taking precautions in a post 9-11 world.

If that is being elitist and snobbish, so be it. I honestly do not think a munitions dump 15 in the middle of nowhere in Kentucky is anywhere near the threat as a major metropolitan city, but hey maybe I am wrong. Maybe they want to kill all the bluegrass in KY, and make Louisville the next target, but for some reason I am not thinking it is high on their list. . .
He wasn't the only person in this thread who disagreed with you, but you latched onto his ass like a rabid chihuahua. Just take it down a notch dude.

By the way, I think you're seriously misunderstanding Asbury. He's not saying the terrorists want to destroy a cache of chemical weapons, which the U.S. isn't about to use any time soon. I believe he's saying terrorists would be tempted to take them and use them against other targets.

Frankly though, I don't understand why something like that isn't under stricter guard.

[AsburySkinsFan]

OK, so a person from Kentucky telling me that the city I lived in was foolish for actually taking a threat seriously, yet I am a snob for saying they would not want to attack Kentucky? Sorry, but being a city where one of the 9-11 planes was from, and having a friends father die on one of the planes kind of touches a nerve with me. Especially when I hear someone from Kentucky tell me that we are being foolish for taking precautions in a post 9-11 world.

If that is being elitist and snobbish, so be it. I honestly do not think a munitions dump 15 in the middle of nowhere in Kentucky is anywhere near the threat as a major metropolitan city, but hey maybe I am wrong. Maybe they want to kill all the bluegrass in KY, and make Louisville the next target, but for some reason I am not thinking it is high on their list. . .

EASY, woah, woah, woah, that was not my post.

[chomerics]

By the way, I think you're seriously misunderstanding Asbury. He's not saying the terrorists want to destroy a cache of chemical weapons, which the U.S. isn't about to use any time soon. I believe he's saying terrorists would be tempted to take them and use them against other targets.

Frankly though, I don't understand why something like that isn't under stricter guard.

Seriously why? Why would they even take the chance of getting caught? They would be better off smuggling stuff into the country through container ship then trying to break into a military facility.

If that is what he was talking about, then I think he was even further off the mark. . . The point I was trying to make was that the city was not foolish in doing what they did. I am GLAD they did what they did, even though at first I ALSO thought it made them look foolish.

You see, you HAVE to take every threat seriously, EVERYONE. Even if it appears to be something a childish as a lite brite with batteries and a few wires. This is the world we live in post 9-11, and we have to fact the consequences. Unfortunately, this stunt was not relayed to the police, and it got out of hand. i do think the city did the correct thing in taking every precaution necessary to insure the safety of its citizens, I would expect nothing less. This is what we have to deal with unfortunately, but it is the product of the world in which we live in.

[chomerics]

EASY, woah, woah, woah, that was not my post.

No, I was quoting Dan, not you. He was the one calling me an elitist snob, not you.

[AsburySkinsFan]

He wasn't the only person in this thread who disagreed with you, but you latched onto his ass like a rabid chihuahua. Just take it down a notch dude.
my butt still stings. :D


By the way, I think you're seriously misunderstanding Asbury. He's not saying the terrorists want to destroy a cache of chemical weapons, which the U.S. isn't about to use any time soon. I believe he's saying terrorists would be tempted to take them and use them against other targets.

Frankly though, I don't understand why something like that isn't under stricter guard.
That's exactly my point. And as far as the guard is concerned well, that matter is a constant topic for discussion. IMO there ought to be a regiment of Spec Ops sitting on those bunkers 24-7. And, imagine this if you will, last year's Presidential Budget suggested slashing the Bluegrass Army Depots budget by more than half, so much so that the combined budget for both of these type facilities (the other is in Colorado) would have been less than the previous budget for the Blugrass Depot alone! Needless to say there were several "strongly worded" letters sent to my elected officials about the matter. And thankfully in the end Congress upped their budgets instead of slashing them. So much for National Security eh?:doh:

[AsburySkinsFan]

Seriously why? Why would they even take the chance of getting caught? They would be better off smuggling stuff into the country through container ship then trying to break into a military facility.

If that is what he was talking about, then I think he was even further off the mark. . .
Trust me, if you could see the Depot you'd understand why its ripe for the picking. It is really sad actually, that place should have a massive show of force at all times. Instead you can walk off a golf course and be within 100 yards of the fence.

use mapquest, and look up Richmond, Kentucky. then zoom in on the depot, you'll see what I'm talking about.

[AsburySkinsFan]

No, I was quoting Dan, not you. He was the one calling me an elitist snob, not you.

Ok, thought that was aimed at me.:silly:

[Duckus]

If the city of Boston wants to REALLY punish the show they will do nothing and let this all die. Instead they will prosecute and sue, lose both cases and while doing so give the show billions of dollars of free publicity on a world wide scale.

This show is targeted to males in the 16-30 age range (a guess) – college stoners especially. Being processuted by the government is probably the best way to make them even bigger.

Rap and Ultimate Fighting are two recent things in recent years that the government has “gone after – and thrown the book at.” That worked out well – both of those have only grown 1000000% since they were threatened by authority.

The producers of this show are probably laughing and buying some big new houses and cars today.

[Dan T.]

No, I was quoting Dan, not you. He was the one calling me an elitist snob, not you.


Chom, I didn't call you an elitist snob. I said your posting came across as sounding like an elitist snob. A key distinction. I happen to admire much of what you write. But I think in this case your legitimate argument of Boston having an understandably higher sensitivity to threats of terrorism got muddled by attacking and ridiculing the notion that terrorists might strike in the hinterlands.

So continue the debate. I'll step back and listen. :cheers:

[Mass_SkinsFan]

Chom, you're really coming across as an East Coast elitist snob. "My city is MUCH more likely to be attacked than your little backwater State." It's petty.

Dan, I don't see Chom's posts, so I can't speak to their content explicitely; but I have to tell you that I'm pretty sure the City of Boston is a much bigger target than most rural areas of this country are. Even those areas that may have some industry are less of a target than major population and attention centers, from what I've read on the tactics of these terrorist groups.


As to this viral marketing stunt- right now the bottom line, like it or not, is that it has worked WAY above Turner's or the ad agency's wildest expectations. Even if they have to reimburse the city of Boston's expenses for shutting down roads and finding the devices, they've gotten more publicity for their little cartoon than they ever expected.

Maybe. Unfortunately, this is one time where bad press may not be better than no press. If the City of Boston and the Commonwealth of Mass. DO decide to go after these people for the higher level charges, this is going to stay around in the media as a dark spot on Turner's public image for quite a while. There were a WHOLE LOT of people in Boston who were inconvenienced by this yesterday. I'd guess that many of them have Cable TV in their homes. I wonder how many may think about getting rid of their Turner Network stations or just not watching them after this.

[Destino]

Sorry but the city over reacted and I'm going to be honest... they are humiliating the entire country. We have become such a scared population that when faced with a well positioned Lite Bright we run like smurfs during a Gargamel raid. I can see the terrorists now, gathered in their little death cultists cave wearing their finest curtains and dress sandals wondering how they can harness the awesome fear inducing power of The "Mooninites" (shown below)
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f308/jimmyisgay1/mooninites.jpg
Meanwhile Boston, the city of the famed tea party, sees it's brave citizens slowly starting to peek out of their homes now the the terrible 2-d threat has been elminated. I wonder if they have begun drafting a plan to deal with other potential threats?

What will they do when Oglethorpe and Emory show up:
http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/300W/large/indyart/indymisc/oglethorpe_and_emory.jpg
My guess is that they will be mistaken for Christmas trees and spark a city wide panic as enlightened Bostonians run for fear of being exposed to this holiday menace.


Irrational fear is no reason to put people in jail. It's a reason to laugh at fools afraid of Lite-brights, it's a great time to mock your moronic leaders that ran to their bunkers at the sight of small neon signs, and it's a good time for a gut check.

[Mass_SkinsFan]

If the city of Boston wants to REALLY punish the show they will do nothing and let this all die. Instead they will prosecute and sue, lose both cases and while doing so give the show billions of dollars of free publicity on a world wide scale.

We're talking about Massachusetts here, remember. I would suggest that if the State DOES decide to persue these charges, that the advertiser and Turner might want to settle out of court... before the Massachusetts Telecommunications Committee decides that Turner's programming is inappropriate and has it pulled from all Cable and Satellite providers doing business in the Commonwealth.

Oh, and before you tell me how that could never happen, remember that this is Massachusetts and these people will be fighting against the State Government. A state government that has never been limited by the concepts of Right or Wrong in the past.

[Mass_SkinsFan]

Sorry but the city over reacted and I'm going to be honest... they are humiliating the entire country. We have become such a scared population that when faced with a well positioned Lite Bright we run like smurfs during a Gargamel raid.

Meanwhile Boston, the city of the famed tea party, sees it's brave citizens slowly starting to peek out of their homes now the the terrible 2-d threat has been elminated. I wonder if they have begun drafting a plan to deal with other potential threats?

Destino, that's unfair. While Washington, DC and New York City took the brunt of the physical damage on September 11th, 2001; there was some serious damage done to Boston as well... psychological and emotional damage. I believe that BOTH the planes that hit the WTC originated from BOSTON that morning. Many of the people on board those flights were Bostonians or at least New Englanders. This region was hit very hard emotionally by what happened that day, and many of us still remember it.

The City of Boston has done a lot in the last five years to try and tighten up security and to make sure that attacks against the city would not be easy. When something unusual like these signs yesterday show up, the city IS going to react in the most aggressive way to ensure that these objects are not going to potentially harm people. As I said before, I hold Turner and their advertising agency responsible for not informing the City and the BPD of this campaign ahead of time. Then again, I don't even consider it an ad campaign. It's more like the 'tagging' that juvenile delinquints and gangs of thugs use to mark their territories so far as I'm concerned.


On a serious note, irrational fear is no reason to put people in jail. It's a reason to laugh at fools afraid of Lite-brights, it's a great time to mock your moronic leaders that ran to their bunkers at the site of small neon signs, and it's a good time for a gut check.

Hey, think about it this way.... They could have been caught actually putting the things up and had an aggressive cop put a bullet in them, thinking they were trying to plant or detonate a bomb. I'm sure your reaction would have been a lot less laise-faire in that case.

I actually have to give the City of Boston and its administration some serious respect and credit for how they've handled this. They took these devices seriously, and now that it's been proven they were not bombs, they're taking action against the people who caused the problem in the first place. We live in a place and time now where this sort of BS cannot and should not be simply ignored and allowed to go unchecked. The fact that the administrations and citizens of nine other cities didn't react to this stuff tells me that they're not paying much attention to security... or that they're staying up way too late at night watching brain destroying mush on a childrens tv station. Either way, I'm not impressed.

[Destino]

I could see the smoke from the Pentagon from my office in Arlington. I drove into work on the highway the plane that smashed into the pentagon flew over. I was in a city that was in a total state of panic that day as (false) reports came in of more explosions in DC (just across the bridge from my office). I know all about the fear that day.

I do not however use that day to justify any over reaction I might have. I don't seek to punish people for my own incorrect assumptions. The so called "post 9/11 world" is used as an excuse to justify every bone headed move leaders wish to make. These were lite-bright-like images of 2-d cartoon characters we are talking about here. Not ticking suitcases, not brown paper wrapped boxes left at bus stops.

Also this style of viral marketing isn't new, it's been written about in Wired Mag for the last 3 years. This is old stuff that is targetted at younger people that has been around for a good long while. The only thing different in this case is that someone over-reacted and officials wanting to avoid saying "my bad" are trying to hold someone accountable to heal their own wounded pride.

[dreamingwolf]

I am insulted that you call lite-brites by the disparaging term lite brights

[Mass_SkinsFan]

I could see the smoke from the Pentagon from my office in Arlington. I drove into work on the highway the plane that smashed into the pentagon flew over. I was in a city that was in a total state of panic that day as (false) reports came in of more explosions in DC (just across the bridge from my office). I know all about the fear that day.[/QUOTE

I do not however use that day to justify any over reaction I might have. I don't seek to punish people for my own incorrect assumptions. The so called "post 9/11 world" is used as an excuse to justify every bone headed move leaders wish to make. These were lite-bright-like images of 2-d cartoon characters we are talking about here. Not ticking suitcases, not brown paper wrapped boxes left at bus stops.

Ok, let's go with your way of looking at it. The next time one of these rag-headed Islamo-kooks decides he wants to plant a bomb, we just gave him the perfect way to do it. Hide it in a laptop computer, or some other relatively familiar and unmenacing looking device. Who knows, maybe they should hide it in a small gumball machine and give it to a child going into a daycare center. In this current world we cannot have TOO MUCH security so far as I am concerned. We need to get this idea that safety and security are easy, non-invasive things that never trouble our lives out of our heads. If we want to be secure, we're going to have to accept that at times things like what happened yesterday in Boston are going to happen, and are not necessarily a bad thing.


Also this style of viral marketing isn't new, it's been written about in Wired Mag for the last 3 years. This is old stuff that is targetted at younger people that has been around for a good long while. The only thing different in this case is that someone over-reacted and officials wanting to avoid saying "my bad" are trying to hold someone accountable to heal their own wounded pride.

I can understand why they call it 'viral' marketing... it's sick and disgusting so far as I'm concerned. At the very least it's littering/vandalism/or potentially destruction of public property. In the society this country now exists in, where security is FINALLY beginning to become important to at least some members of society, crap like this should not be tollerated, so far as I'm concerned. Again, I will say that IF these people had contacted the local officials and those officials had still responded this way, I would be on Turner's side. Since they DIDN'T, and they proceeded with this act anyway; I hope the city and state throws the book at them for whatever charges they can make stick.

[Destino]

You're right Mass... next time I spot someone installing a gum ball machine I'm going to jump him. He can't expect me to just tolerate him installing a potential child killing explosive device. Security isn't easy folks.

[Mass_SkinsFan]

You're right Mass... next time I spot someone installing a gum ball machine I'm going to jump him. He can't expect me to just tolerate him installing a potential child killing explosive device. Security isn't easy folks.

If he's installing a gum ball machine someplace where that gum ball machine seems seriously out of place, you would be very smart to check on his credentials and possibly alert the police if things don't seem to add up. Security is something that police departments and other agencies cannot do by themselves. They simply don't have the resources and carte blanche to do it. Therefore we as citizens need to keep our eyes open for things that seem seriously out of the ordinary as well, and report them when they seem to be a potential threat. I'm not sure who first reported these things yesterday, but I'd suggest they should get a huge pat on the back from DHS and the BPD for their foresight.

[twenty-eight]

Sorry but the city over reacted and I'm going to be honest... they are humiliating the entire country. We have become such a scared population that when faced with a well positioned Lite Bright we run like smurfs during a Gargamel raid. I can see the terrorists now, gathered in their little death cultists cave wearing their finest curtains and dress sandals wondering how they can harness the awesome fear inducing power of The "Mooninites" (shown below)
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f308/jimmyisgay1/mooninites.jpg
Meanwhile Boston, the city of the famed tea party, sees it's brave citizens slowly starting to peek out of their homes now the the terrible 2-d threat has been elminated. I wonder if they have begun drafting a plan to deal with other potential threats?

What will they do when Oglethorpe and Emory show up:
http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/300W/large/indyart/indymisc/oglethorpe_and_emory.jpg
My guess is that they will be mistaken for Christmas trees and spark a city wide panic as enlightened Bostonians run for fear of being exposed to this holiday menace.


Irrational fear is no reason to put people in jail. It's a reason to laugh at fools afraid of Lite-brights, it's a great time to mock your moronic leaders that ran to their bunkers at the sight of small neon signs, and it's a good time for a gut check.

:laugh::laugh:

Good old, Nic Noc...."I'm doing it as hard as i can"


http://www.ilpotereelagloria.it/images/immagini/AquaTeenHungerForce.jpg

We need to call these guys, they are a crime fighting team

[rincewind]

:laugh::laugh:

Good old, Nic Noc...."I'm doing it as hard as i can"


http://www.ilpotereelagloria.it/images/immagini/AquaTeenHungerForce.jpg

We need to call these guys, they are a crime fighting team



http://mcpeepants.com/sounds/004mayhemofthemooninites/mayhemofthemooninites13.mp3

[Predicto]

Weren't those lite-brite things up and running for several weeks already before, all of a sudden, people got panicky?

I understand that there would be some overreaction at times like these, but actually prosecuting anyone over this after having a couple of days to step back and take a deep breath would be ... well, stupid.

[RobertGoulet]

Mooninites!!!

[McMetal]

How come you stop us when you're "Cold as Ice"?

We smoke when we shoot the bird!

Wow, this thread was harder to find than I thought. Mostly I just wanted to re-affirm how much ATHF kicks ass. That show is the funniest thing on TV.

In retrospect, not the most sensible ad campaign. If I had come across one of those things I would have stolen it away to my house instantly. I'm already looking for 'em on eBay. Spacecatazz!

This better not jeopardize the movie release in any way.

[Mass_SkinsFan]

Wow, this thread was harder to find than I thought. Mostly I just wanted to re-affirm how much ATHF kicks ass. That show is the funniest thing on TV.

In retrospect, not the most sensible ad campaign. If I had come across one of those things I would have stolen it away to my house instantly. I'm already looking for 'em on eBay. Spacecatazz!

This better not jeopardize the movie release in any way.


^^^^^^THIS from a Thirty-Six year old (nothing personal) and people wonder why I think this country is going down the drain at an alarmingly fast pace.

[twenty-eight]

Ignignokt: Using a key to gouge expletives on another's vehicle is a sign of trust, and friendship.

Carl: Maybe you'd be a good person to ask who wrote "Da Moon Rulz #1" on my car with a key.
Ignignokt: If you have a problem with that, maybe you should take it up with Mister Laser.

[PokerPacker]

I'm sure that some of you have heard of the fuhror created yesterday in Boston when nearly a dozen 'packages' that were apparently part of an advertising campaign for a late-night children's program were mistaken for IED's and kept the Boston Police Department Bomb Squad running around the city for most of the day.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/02/01/marketing_gambit_exposes_a_wide_generation_gap/

News reports I heard this morning suggested that the city may have spent close to $750K yesterday closing roads, bridges, and parts of the river during these 'bomb' removals. I'm really hoping the city sends the Advertising company and Turner Broadcasting a bill for that money.

So, what do you folks think..... Was this the city over-reacting or was this one of the stupidest advertising ideas in human history?
HUGE!!! over-reaction.

its a freaking cartoon character made out of lights! hell, if i make a cartoon character with a night-brite and leave it on a street corner in DC, should i expect them to evacuate the white-house?

[Mass_SkinsFan]

HUGE!!! over-reaction.

its a freaking cartoon character made out of lights! hell, if i make a cartoon character with a night-brite and leave it on a street corner in DC, should i expect them to evacuate the white-house?

It's a cartoon character.... that's wonderful. If the police department is staffed with 12 year olds, they might have known that. However, in Boston they require people to be ADULTS to be on the police force, so I highly doubt any of them had ever even heard of Aqua Teen Hunger Force or whatever the hell the show is called.

These were electronic devices placed in visible locations on bridges, underpasses, etc... with nothing more than a pixelated quasi-demonic character on them. What the hell were these people supposed to think? If the Bomb squad HADN'T been called and these things HAD turned out to be some form of explosive device, how many people might have been killed or injured, and what would the media reaction have been?

[PokerPacker]

It's a cartoon character.... that's wonderful. If the police department is staffed with 12 year olds, they might have known that. However, in Boston they require people to be ADULTS to be on the police force, so I highly doubt any of them had ever even heard of Aqua Teen Hunger Force or whatever the hell the show is called.

These were electronic devices placed in visible locations on bridges, underpasses, etc... with nothing more than a pixelated quasi-demonic character on them. What the hell were these people supposed to think? If the Bomb squad HADN'T been called and these things HAD turned out to be some form of explosive device, how many people might have been killed or injured, and what would the media reaction have been?
just so you know, this cartoon is not aimed at 12 year olds. its aimed at teens to adults.

hmm... i think vehicles that have rubber wheels are suspicious and could be very good bombs. i see them near bridges and underpasses and even the most sensative of locations. i think we should call in a bomb-squad and blow every single rubber-wheeled vehicle to kingdom-come. because you never know, what if they DO turn out to be explosives. that would be really bad. :rolleyes:

[Mass_SkinsFan]

just so you know, this cartoon is not aimed at 12 year olds. its aimed at teens to adults.

I'm sorry, but so far as I'm concerned anyone over 12 who is watching cartoons has the mental capacity of a 12 year old. I have one such person as my roommate, so I am aware of what I speak.


hmm... i think vehicles that have rubber wheels are suspicious and could be very good bombs. i see them near bridges and underpasses and even the most sensative of locations. i think we should call in a bomb-squad and blow every single rubber-wheeled vehicle to kingdom-come. because you never know, what if they DO turn out to be explosives. that would be really bad. :rolleyes:

Packer, apparently you come from the same place mentally as these two disgusting looking hippie kooks who've been arrested and when put in front of a microphone this afternoon proceeded to start talking about hair stylists and other crap. If/When you finally decide to grow up and become an adult let me know. Until then please do us both a favor and go back to drinking out of your sippy-cup.

[19Skins72]

"United States of America
April 19, 1775 to November 7, 2006
A Victim of her own Beliefs
REST IN PEACE"

This was highly amusing! Thank you for the comedic intervention (intentional or otherwise =p)

[Art]

I'm sure that some of you have heard of the fuhror created yesterday in Boston when nearly a dozen 'packages' that were apparently part of an advertising campaign for a late-night children's program were mistaken for IED's and kept the Boston Police Department Bomb Squad running around the city for most of the day.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/02/01/marketing_gambit_exposes_a_wide_generation_gap/

News reports I heard this morning suggested that the city may have spent close to $750K yesterday closing roads, bridges, and parts of the river during these 'bomb' removals. I'm really hoping the city sends the Advertising company and Turner Broadcasting a bill for that money.

So, what do you folks think..... Was this the city over-reacting or was this one of the stupidest advertising ideas in human history?

Tax dollars provide a public service to taxpayers. While I would prefer a system where people who use services pay for them, the fact is, it's as inappropriate to think TBS should pay for the cost of the services in this incident as it is to charge any criminal for any effort to catch him or prosecute him or, hell, keep him alive on death row, whatever.

[Mass_SkinsFan]

"United States of America
April 19, 1775 to November 7, 2006
A Victim of her own Beliefs
REST IN PEACE"

This was highly amusing! Thank you for the comedic intervention (be it intentional or otherwise =p)

Buh bye. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

[19Skins72]

"Buh bye. Good riddance to bad rubbish."

You don't see the humor in your overly alarmist signature???

Relax my friend...perhaps you should switch to decaf. :laugh:

[AsburySkinsFan]

Buh bye. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Hey 19Skins72 this means that he put you on his ignore list, don't worry there are plenty of us on there, some of us voluntarily. Most of us wear it as a badge of honor.

Welcome to the club!!

[Mass_SkinsFan]

Tax dollars provide a public service to taxpayers. While I would prefer a system where people who use services pay for them, the fact is, it's as inappropriate to think TBS should pay for the cost of the services in this incident as it is to charge any criminal for any effort to catch him or prosecute him or, hell, keep him alive on death row, whatever.

Art, we fine many criminals for their behavior in addition to or in place of jailing them. Turner Broadcasting should have thought this campaign through a lot better. The 'advertising company' (they look more like a pair of unemployed hippies to me) should have known better as well. What they did is totally inappropriate and at best childish and at worst grossly negligent and criminal. Because of that inappropriateness & negligence the City of Boston racked up a bill totalling nearly $1 Million from what I hear today. I can't see how TBS and these punks SHOULDN'T be forced to pay for most of it.

[19Skins72]

Glad to be in the club!

Are there any other perks besides my alarmist friend not seeing my posts?

[Enter Apotheosis]

^^^^^^THIS from a Thirty-Six year old (nothing personal) and people wonder why I think this country is going down the drain at an alarmingly fast pace.

Seemed pretty damn personal to me. That would be like me saying...

"Goddamn, you dress up in historical re-enactments yet look strikingly similar to a smurf? How is that accurate? No wonder those things suck so much... no offense, or anything."

[PokerPacker]

I'm sorry, but so far as I'm concerned anyone over 12 who is watching cartoons has the mental capacity of a 12 year old. I have one such person as my roommate, so I am aware of what I speak.


and so far as i'm concerned, anyone as closed minded, ignorant, and hateful as you has no room talking



Packer, apparently you come from the same place mentally as these two disgusting looking hippie kooks who've been arrested and when put in front of a microphone this afternoon proceeded to start talking about hair stylists and other crap. If/When you finally decide to grow up and become an adult let me know. Until then please do us both a favor and go back to drinking out of your sippy-cup.
i come from a mentality where i can think for myself and don't need to be spoon-fed what i should think is entertaining. the mere fact that the characters on the TV screen are animated rather than live has nothing to do with the content of the show itself. while i do not think you would enjoy or approve of the show, i frankly just don't what society (or in this case, a man who wishes he controlled society) thinks is suitable for me to think or watch. now why don't you go back to your little hole in the ground shut-in where you curse at the world without bothering anyone else?

[Mass_SkinsFan]

Seemed pretty damn personal to me. That would be like me saying...

"Goddamn, you dress up in historical re-enactments yet look strikingly similar to a smurf? How is that accurate? No wonder those things suck so much... no offense, or anything."

The difference, EA is that I could not care any less what you think of me. If somebody really cares that much about my opinion of them, I'd be terribly surprised.

[PokerPacker]

"Buh bye. Good riddance to bad rubbish."

You don't see the humor in your overly alarmist signature???

Relax my friend...perhaps you should switch to decaf. :laugh:
he thinks humor is evil... or something like that.

[Enter Apotheosis]

The difference, EA is that I could not care any less what you think of me. If somebody really cares that much about my opinion of them, I'd be terribly surprised.

Thats not the point, though. Don't try to mask your opinion with "no offense" if it is more or less designed to be vaguely offensive.

[Redskins Diehard]

just so you know, this cartoon is not aimed at 12 year olds. its aimed at teens to adults.

hmm... i think vehicles that have rubber wheels are suspicious and could be very good bombs. i see them near bridges and underpasses and even the most sensative of locations.

And that is why you play absolutely no role in public safety:2cents:

[Mass_SkinsFan]

i come from a mentality where i can think for myself and don't need to be spoon-fed what i should think is entertaining. the mere fact that the characters on the TV screen are animated rather than live has nothing to do with the content of the show itself. while i do not think you would enjoy or approve of the show, i frankly just don't what society (or in this case, a man who wishes he controlled society) thinks is suitable for me to think or watch. now why don't you go back to your little hole in the ground shut-in where you curse at the world without bothering anyone else?

Entertainment is for CHILDREN. Adults have better and more important things to deal with than watching some mind-disolving cartoon on television at whatever late hour of the night that POS is on.

As I alluded to earlier.... I have a roommate who watches this sort of drivel. He's 32 year old, unemployable, has no social skills, and were he not married to a lady who allows him to be that way, would probably not be able to even take care of himself in anything even close to an adult manner. I KNOW this crap is stuff I would never watch. It kills braincells from the very small amount I've ever been exposed to.

As for going back into my little hole in the ground... I don't think so. Not with the large number of child mentalities in adult bodies running around trying to further destroy our society.

[Mass_SkinsFan]

he thinks humor is evil... or something like that.

Not Evil. Just pointless and useless.

[AsburySkinsFan]

Glad to be in the club!

Are there any other perks besides my alarmist friend not seeing my posts?

We have a secret handshake. BTW, I'll send you my address so you can mail in your membership dues. ;)

[Mass_SkinsFan]

Thats not the point, though. Don't try to mask your opinion with "no offense" if it is more or less designed to be vaguely offensive.

It was meant to be offensive to the mentality and personality characterized by the individual, not the individual themselves. That was what I was trying to explain, and obviously did a very poor job of.

[Enter Apotheosis]

It was meant to be offensive to the mentality and personality characterized by the individual, not the individual themselves. That was what I was trying to explain, and obviously did a very poor job of.

Extremely poor. Besides, by insulting the personality characterized by the individual you are insulting the individual whether you like to admit it or not.

[Bang]

Hey.
I kind of like cartoons.
Everyone should go watch some Bang Cartoons (http://www.bangcartoon.com) right now.

~Bang

[rincewind]

Entertainment is for CHILDREN. Adults have better and more important things to deal with than watching some mind-disolving cartoon on television at whatever late hour of the night that POS is on.



Then why do you dress up and play with swords if not for entertainment???

[Sarge]

Then why do you dress up and play with swords if not for entertainment???

Somehow I saw that coming. Still doesn't excuse what these two retards did

[PokerPacker]

Then why do you dress up and play with swords if not for entertainment???
oh no you didn't! :laugh:

[rincewind]

Somehow I saw that coming. Still doesn't excuse what these two retards did


oh no you didn't! :laugh:



I don't think he can see me anyway. So I'm kind of like a tree falling in the forest. :)

[Mass_SkinsFan]

In response to rince's comment, which I couldn't see until Packer quoted it...

I'm involved in the SCA to forward my research into medieval history (the events in general) and as a form of physical and mental exercise (fighting). To be dead honest, a lot of the time I don't consider the SCA a whole lot of fun. That's why I tend to only attend those events that have activities specific to what my interests are.

[rincewind]

In response to rince's comment, which I couldn't see until Packer quoted it...

I'm involved in the SCA to forward my research into medieval history (the events in general) and as a form of physical and mental exercise (fighting). To be dead honest, a lot of the time I don't consider the SCA a whole lot of fun. That's why I tend to only attend those events that have activities specific to what my interests are.



Was there any point whatsoever to him pointing out that he can't see my post? Hijacking, attention-whoring at its best, folks.

[AsburySkinsFan]

Was there any point whatsoever to him pointing out that he can't see my post? Hijacking, attention-whoring at its best, folks.

No! You don't say!! You mean a guy who creates a thread himself about himself, so that everyone can ask his opinion on all sorts of issues might do things to get attention! NEVER!! ;) I however, will not link to that un-named thread as I don't want it bumped, but someone will now bump it just to spite me. GRRRRR :silly:

*edit*
I had to bring this one back out again.
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3/ocujer/lookatme.jpg

[PokerPacker]

Was there any point whatsoever to him pointing out that he can't see my post? Hijacking, attention-whoring at its best, folks.
i think maybe he actually CAN see your posts, and saw your post afterwards about thinking he can't read your posts. and then used it as an excuse to reply. :silly:

[PokerPacker]

No! You don't say!! You mean a guy who creates a thread himself about himself, so that everyone can ask his opinion on all sorts of issues might do things to get attention! NEVER!! ;) I however, will not link to that un-named thread as I don't want it bumped, but someone will now bump it just to spite me. GRRRRR :silly:
i won't bump it if you won't bump it.

[AsburySkinsFan]

i won't bump it if you won't bump it.

I certainly ain't gonna bump it. I tried to kill that thing several times, but its like trying to throw away a trash can, it just wouldn't go away!

[PokerPacker]

We have a secret handshake. BTW, I'll send you my address so you can mail in your membership dues. ;)
might as well send me the address as well. :cool:

[PokerPacker]

I certainly ain't gonna bump it. I tried to kill that thing several times, but its like trying to throw away a trash can, it just wouldn't go away!
yeah, go to your desktop and try to drag the recycling bin to the recycling bin. it always seems to be a step ahead!

[WVUforREDSKINS]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G-D0F4Q9yk



Kids make fun of the boston police like no other

[Darth Tater]

I'd say the Boston is acting exactly the way Al Queda had hoped and maybe the way the advertisers hoped.

[WVUforREDSKINS]

I'd say the Boston is acting exactly the way Al Queda had hoped and maybe the way the advertisers hoped.

The show has gotten more publicity than they probably ever thought possible.

I've watched that show and I don't really see all the hype over it. I actaully find it kinda annoying. I hate how the meatball talks.

[Mass_SkinsFan]

I'd say the Boston is acting exactly the way Al Queda had hoped and maybe the way the advertisers hoped.

I'm not so sure that's true, Darth. Assuming that Al Queda was watching, they saw a city that reacted quickly, efficiently, and in a way that was quite good for the potential threat they believed might be there. I'm not sure that the terrorists are going to find a whole lot out of yesterday to hang their turbans on.

As for the advertisers.... I'm not sure they intended on spending the night in jail, having to post $2500 in bail, and potentially going to jail for an extended period of time.

[Darth Tater]

I'm not so sure that's true, Darth. Assuming that Al Queda was watching, they saw a city that reacted quickly, efficiently, and in a way that was quite good for the potential threat they believed might be there. I'm not sure that the terrorists are going to find a whole lot out of yesterday to hang their turbans on.

As for the advertisers.... I'm not sure they intended on spending the night in jail, having to post $2500 in bail, and potentially going to jail for an extended period of time.
Al Queda got the results it wants, disruption of a city and did not have to lift a finger or spend any money to do it. The purpose behind what they do IS to disrupt and what this shows them is they don't have to spend resources here and they can focus on other things. Their primary purpose is to win the hearts and minds of the Muslim people and then use those resources. The secondary purpose is to make us hate our own rulers so much that we'll submit to them.

[TMK9973]

I'm not so sure that's true, Darth. Assuming that Al Queda was watching, they saw a city that reacted quickly, efficiently, and in a way that was quite good for the potential threat they believed might be there. I'm not sure that the terrorists are going to find a whole lot out of yesterday to hang their turbans on.

As for the advertisers.... I'm not sure they intended on spending the night in jail, having to post $2500 in bail, and potentially going to jail for an extended period of time.

Really? You saw a city that reacted quickly? 3 weeks after these things were first put up? Efficiently? Really? That's what you saw?

hmmmmmm.... ok...

[WVUforREDSKINS]

MSF reminds me of Dwight Schrute from The Office...

[Mass_SkinsFan]

Really? You saw a city that reacted quickly? 3 weeks after these things were first put up? Efficiently? Really? That's what you saw?

hmmmmmm.... ok...

Yes. From the time these things were reported, the response was quite efficient. The fact that members of the public took so long to see and report them is disturbing, but then again the citizens of Eastern Massachusetts have been overlooking the Murder and Drunkeness committed by a US Senator for years so we can't really expect them to be that observant.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Yes. From the time these things were reported, the response was quite efficient. The fact that members of the public took so long to see and report them is disturbing, but then again the citizens of Eastern Massachusetts have been overlooking the Murder and Drunkeness committed by a US Senator for years so we can't really expect them to be that observant.

Zing!!

[Skinsfan1311]

Yeah, no reason to attack out here, I mean we only have the second largest stock-pile of biological and chemical weapons in the country at the Bluegrass Army Depot (which just happens to be 15 minutes from my house). No reason any terrorist would want that stuff, I mean its Kentucky what do we have right?

http://www.pmacwa.army.mil/ky/

*edit* Bluegrass Army Depot Stockpile information */edit*
AGENT.......... ITEM........... QUANTITY..... POUNDS
HD-Blister 155mm Projectiles 15,492 181,260
GB-Nerve 8-inch Projectiles 3,977 57,660
GB-Nerve M55 Rockets 51,716 553,360
GB-Nerve M56 Rocket Warheads 24 260
VX-Nerve 155mm Projectiles 12,816 76,900
VX-Nerve M55 Rockets 17,733 177,340
VX-Nerve M56 Rocket Warheads 6 60

Ummm.....hello??

You left out Kentucky's most precious resource, which I believe is distilled in Loretto........

:D

[AsburySkinsFan]

Ummm.....hello??

You left out Kentucky's most precious resource, which I believe is distilled in Loretto........

:D
We've got a couple of distilleries here in Kentucky, Jim Beam and Wild Turkey, plus a few smaller brands, always big targets on the terrorist hit list. :silly:

[RobertGoulet]

Entertainment is for CHILDREN. .

so why are u on a football team's fan site? seems like entertainment to me.

[PokerPacker]

so why are u on a football team's fan site? seems like entertainment to me.
ZING! :applause: :cheers: :notworthy :laugh:

[Mass_SkinsFan]

so why are u on a football team's fan site? seems like entertainment to me.

Not entertainment at all. To me sports is a very serious endeavour. About as serious as a heart attack. Maybe a little more serious, to be totally honest with you.

[TMK9973]

Not entertainment at all. To me sports is a very serious endeavour. About as serious as a heart attack. Maybe a little more serious, to be totally honest with you.

It must be very lonley being you....

[Mass_SkinsFan]

It must be very lonley being you....

Not really. I have a small group of very close friends that I see quite often, and I have the only three people I really need in my life with me at all times... Me, Myself, and I.

In my mind I'd rather have a small group of people that know and understand me than to have a large group of 'friends' who I am not close with and who don't really understand me.

[PokerPacker]

yeah mass, keep making excuses :rolleyes:

you seem to be bitter towards people for the same things you do, and you try to excuse yourself by claiming that its different for you. somehow you are the exception to the rule. you really need to get over yourself and quit blaming society for your problems.

[Enter Apotheosis]

In my mind I'd rather have a small group of people that know and understand me than to have a large group of 'friends' who I am not close with and who don't really understand me.

I dunno about you, but it seems to me that most people have both a small core group of friends they know they can rely on and a larger group of friends they can just go out have fun with if necessary.

[Mass_SkinsFan]

I dunno about you, but it seems to me that most people have both a small core group of friends they know they can rely on and a larger group of friends they can just go out have fun with if necessary.

Yes, it would seem that most people follow that pattern fairly closely, EA. I've just never really been able to acquire that second level of 'friends' for different reasons. I have a number of people that I see at different activities and events and interact with, but I wouldn't call them friends. 'Acquaintances' maybe, but not friends. Then again this probably comes back to my beliefs about fun as well.

[RobertGoulet]

Not entertainment at all. To me sports is a very serious endeavour. About as serious as a heart attack. Maybe a little more serious, to be totally honest with you.


i feel the same way about cartoons. without distractions and colorful amusements our world would look alot like "1984" or "fahrenheit 451" so im serious when i say i seriously love cartoons.

[PokerPacker]

i feel the same way about cartoons. without distractions and colorful amusements our world would look alot like "1984" or "fahrenheit 451" so im serious when i say i seriously love cartoons.
yeah, but what you're serious about doesn't matter, only what Mass is serious about. check that, what you're serious about is an excuse for him to make a condescending remark towards you.

[Mass_SkinsFan]

i feel the same way about cartoons. without distractions and colorful amusements our world would look alot like "1984" or "fahrenheit 451" so im serious when i say i seriously love cartoons.

We'll have to disagree on the cartoons thing; but to each their own. Personally, I'd like to see our world become a lot more serious. At least until we've cleaned up our societal issues. Maybe then, once people have earned the privledge of frivolity, and so long as it's within reasonable limits, I could go along with it. I just see today's society moving so quickly and completely away from seriousness that I wonder if there's any chance we can right the ship and get back on a proper societal course.

[rincewind]

Somebody needs to photoshop one of those pictures that says 'this thread has been hijacked' to say 'this thread has been Massjacked.' You know, for entertainment's sake. :)

[PokerPacker]

Somebody needs to photoshop one of those pictures that says 'this thread has been hijacked' to say 'this thread has been Massjacked.' You know, for entertainment's sake. :)
well what usefulness would that provide to societ? you are tearing down the social constructs that built this land!
[/mass rant]

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

Somebody needs to photoshop one of those pictures that says 'this thread has been hijacked' to say 'this thread has been Massjacked.' You know, for entertainment's sake. :)
What's funny to me is that he was able to "Massjack" his own thread. Now that takes true skill.