Who was your Super Bowl MVP?

[rincewind]

I feel like this was one of those games where there was no clear cut winner or anybody that stepped-up above everybody else, so they give it to the QB by default. Plus, you know the NFL was dying to give it to their posterboy. But, personally, I think they should have given it to Dominic Rhodes. The guy was coming up with big run after big run. Averaged over 5 yards a carry and had a TD. But who the **** is Dominic Rhodes??? Something that bit Timmy Smith in the ass.

[Riggo-toni]

Rex Grossman, hands down!!!
He gave the Colts everything they could've asked for. Without him, well, the game might've been a different story.

[skinsfn]

I had co-mvps of Addai and Rhodes. 190 yds rushing between them and Addai had 10 catches. Compare that to 25/38 for 247yds passsing with 1 td and 1 int. As Boomer said before the game this was Peyton's Super Bowl. He managed the game well, and that was enough. He didn't need big stats with Rex on the field.

[no1fanofno21]

Rex Grossman, hands down!!!
He gave the Colts everything they could've asked for. Without him, well, the game might've been a different story.

beat me to it
ditto

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

Quesadilla.

Wait...we are talking about the Puppy Bowl, right?

[redskinsfanatical]

The coach :0

[stwasm]

I would have given co-MVPs to Rhodes and Addai. No way was Peyton Manning the best player out there Sunday. That's almost as criminal as Mark Rypien getting Super Bowl XXVI MVP.

[Die Hard]

I would have given co-MVPs to Rhoades and Addai. No way was Peyton Manning the best player out there Sunday. That's almost as criminal as Mark Rypien getting Super Bowl XXVI MVP.

No doubt. Just whitey keeping the black race down again.

[Brandon Lloyd Christmas]

we all knew it would be manning if the colts won, but dominic rhodes is the biggest reason they won that game. 21 carries for 113 i think and a TD, but the guy was getting so many key 1st downs to keep the clock running. even addai could have made a case with his 10 catches and 77 yards on the ground. the bears defense tried so hard to stop the deep ball, and gave up so many yards underneath. they never adjusted and got pwned.

[RedskinsNation]

The problem is both RB's played GREAT in my opinion so if you give the mvp to one u basically snubb the other. Manning controls that team and is the captain on offense and is a BIG reason the Bears safeties played that 2 deep cover shell to prevent the deep ball thus allowing the Run game to flourish.

Manning wasnt neccesarily phenomenal but the Bears defense is pretty good and he did what was needed and took advantage of what the Bears allowed. Kudos to him for that.

[stwasm]

No doubt. Just whitey keeping the black race down again.

Once again, Die Hard, you never cease to amaze me with how ignorant you make yourself sound.

[dockeryfan]

Well, Manning didn't play great enough to earn it, but giving it to anyone else would be a problem because it was such a team effort.

Actually, it isn't sexy, and it will never happen, but they could have given it to that rookie tackle Johnson and I would have been happy. After Diem went down, he played the rest of the game. That would have been pretty cool.

[Hero21]

No doubt. Just whitey keeping the black race down again.

Dude, please ... please ... PLEASE tell me you were joking

[Riggo-toni]

Dude, please ... please ... PLEASE tell me you were joking

Um...duh!!

What was so criminal about giving Rypien the SB MVP, anyways? He deserved it.

Guys who got it, but were less deserving:
Tom Brady in 01/02 - Should've gone to Ty Law
Deion Branch in 04/05 - Should've gone to Tom Brady.

[stwasm]

Um...duh!!

What was so criminal about giving Rypien the SB MVP, anyways? He deserved it.

Guys who got it, but were less deserving:
Tom Brady in 01/02 - Should've gone to Ty Law
Deion Branch in 04/05 - Should've gone to Tom Brady.

I thought Brad Edwards, channelling the spirit of Ronnie Lott, made a lot of bone-crushing hits and forcing Bills receivers into drops. Rypien's numbers were average at best, even though he did play a good game.

[Riggo-toni]

Okay, that's a valid point. Our D was PHENOMENAL that game.

[stwasm]

Okay, that's a valid point. Our D was PHENOMENAL that game.

Between Edwards and Wilbur Marshall, if you had the ball, you were going down!

[Henry]

Back on topic for a moment, I definately think Rhodes was the MVP. Considering the monsoon, Manning played pretty well, but the running game, and Rhodes in particular, broke the back of Chicago's D. Rhodes and Addai as co-MVPs work for me too.

[RedskinsNation]

I could care less about the Colts.....win or lose...but realistically if the Colts lose NO MATTER how...............it could have been a shootout and the d allowed 30+ pts and Manning still could have thrown for 300+ yards and 3 tds and the score would have been something like 37-34 ALL THE TALK would have been how Manning failed.

When they lose its his fault and when they win its because of him. Im ok with him getting the MVP. Their failure over the past 4 years or so has always fallen on his shoulders, heavily. I guess it was time for the NFL to give back....sort of speak LOL.

[GibbsFactor]

I thought Bob Sanders should have been considered. Two TO's, and was stout against the run!

[rincewind]

I thought Bob Sanders should have been considered. Two TO's, and was stout against the run!



Not to mention being the spark plug and leader for a newly revamped D. Good choice. :applause:

[EersSkins05]

My Rex Grossman joke is two pages too late. Damn.

[jrockster21]

I feel like this was one of those games where there was no clear cut winner or anybody that stepped-up above everybody else, so they give it to the QB by default. Plus, you know the NFL was dying to give it to their posterboy. But, personally, I think they should have given it to Dominic Rhodes.

I think Rhodes, Rhodes/Addai or Sanders all would have been better choices. I think the Manning MVP was a little bit of posterboyism, but he did play a good game. He made the throws he needed to make, and didn't feel the effects of his one turnover; he just shrugged it off and kept going with his game. However the Colts don't win without Rhodes shredding it up on the ground and Addai's 10 receptions. It was interesting, because their roles reversed for this game.

The guy was coming up with big run after big run. Averaged over 5 yards a carry and had a TD. But who the **** is Dominic Rhodes??? Something that bit Timmy Smith in the ass.

Well, Doug Williams did throw 4 TDs in one quarter...;)

[JCB]

Another vote for Bob Sanders.

[gimpy007]

The Offensive Line. They dominated against a very good Chicago Defensive Line.

[Number5]

Rhodes/Addai Co-MVPs.

If you had to pick on though, it would have to be Rhodes. He closed the second half out and probably had one of the best runs I've seen in a Super Bowl in a long time. He came in running hard, and only got stronger turning the normally sure tackling Bears into a bunch of wet paper bags tearing through them every snap.

[Number5]

The Offensive Line. They dominated against a very good Chicago Defensive Line.


Good point.....Saturday was awesome!

[DCsportsfan53]

I would've either split it between Addai and Rhodes or given it to the entire Colts O-line. I think those two choices were the most deserving and the biggest factors in the Colts victory........





well, other than Grossman. He actually did more than any one person to insure a Colts victory. God he sucks.

[TheFan]

Sanders, the RB's, Manning for game management and representing the entire offense, the OL... It was a team effort and none stood head and shoulders above the others IMO.

I understood and am fine with Manning, but I think this would have been a good SB to give it to the entire OL.

Sidebar on players that didn't get it that should have: James Washington for Dallas' second win against Buffalo. Emmitt got it but James was huge with an INT, a fumble recovery for a TD and a force fumble (Not positive on the FF).

TheFan

[DCSaints_fan]

Given the conditions he had to play in I totally understand giving it to Manning. If there was somoene who really stood out on the defense then I would have given it to them but there wasn't.

[bubba9497]

I thought Rhoades

but one point in Mannings favor being overlooked, Manning called the plays that controlled the clock and had the bears defense confused.

[rincewind]

Given the conditions he had to play in I totally understand giving it to Manning. If there was somoene who really stood out on the defense then I would have given it to them but there wasn't.



Bob Sanders had a pick and a forced fumble. Plus, he is THE guy on that defense. The reason they sucked all regular season was because he was out. He may very well be the most valuable defensive player in the league - not the best, but the most valuable.

[Skins247]

I feel like this was one of those games where there was no clear cut winner or anybody that stepped-up above everybody else, so they give it to the QB by default. Plus, you know the NFL was dying to give it to their posterboy. But, personally, I think they should have given it to Dominic Rhodes. The guy was coming up with big run after big run. Averaged over 5 yards a carry and had a TD. But who the **** is Dominic Rhodes??? Something that bit Timmy Smith in the ass.

Quit crying. They gave it to the right guy. As you said, no one really stood out from the rest. Rhodes played ok, sure. But his play wasn't any better than Manning's. And Manning is the guy that makes that offense work. Rhodes hadn't had a 100-yard game in about 5 years. With their play in this game about equal, why would he be any more deserving than a guy who's carried them for 9 years and has been one of the best players in the game?

[Skins247]

I had co-mvps of Addai and Rhodes. 190 yds rushing between them and Addai had 10 catches. Compare that to 25/38 for 247yds passsing with 1 td and 1 int. As Boomer said before the game this was Peyton's Super Bowl. He managed the game well, and that was enough. He didn't need big stats with Rex on the field.

Good thing they don't let guys like you vote. How were those two any more deserving than Manning? The game Manning had wasn't up to his standards, no. But it was pretty decent considering it came in such inclement weather. Btw, Addai had 10 catches, but wasn't it for only like 30-something yards? Big deal. It was all underneath stuff. I bet you just don't like Manning. Admit it. You finally have to give him his due and it bugs you.

[Major Harris]

^^^are you archie or eli?

[Folami69]

Btw, Addai had 10 catches, but wasn't it for only like 30-something yards?


Actually, it was for 66 yards. And, another 77 rushing. Addai had a really good game.

My choice would have been Rhodes. 113 yards on the ground, including 2 or 3 key runs for first downs to keep the chains moving and the clock running to keep the game out of reach for the Bears.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

I would have preferred if the Colts RBs split it. They combined for over 200 yards of total offense!

I don't have a problem with Manning winning it though. He engineered a good offensive effort and is the heart and soul of that team.

As for stwasm's opinion that Rypien had an average game in SB XXVII, he threw for 300 yards and two TDs...that's not average...at all...especially considering we were running the clock out for the final period of that game (up 37-10).

Now, others deserved recognition and consideration...but Rypien had the most to do with us winning.

[Capt'n Obvious]

I would have given it to Rhodes, or if able to, I would have given co-MVP's to Addai and Rhodes. Both had great games and Addai is only a rookie so that makes his performance all the more impressive.

:logo:

[Who Del]

http://deadspin.com/assets/resources/2007/02/rexshirt.jpg

Holla at the MVP

[Tom [Giants fan]]

I was going to say Grossman too for the Colts but was beat my several people. Good call.

[stwasm]

I would have preferred if the Colts RBs split it. They combined for over 200 yards of total offense!

I don't have a problem with Manning winning it though. He engineered a good offensive effort and is the heart and soul of that team.

As for stwasm's opinion that Rypien had an average game in SB XXVII, he threw for 300 yards and two TDs...that's not average...at all...especially considering we were running the clock out for the final period of that game (up 37-10).

Now, others deserved recognition and consideration...but Rypien had the most to do with us winning.

Rypien may have thrown for 300 yards and 2 TDs, he barely completed 50 percent of his passes. A lot of those yards were because of Art Monk (114 yards) and Gary Clark (113 yards) accumulating yards after their catches. Looking at that, I think receivers had more to do with that win than Rypien.

[GibbsFactor]

Tony Dungy and Dominic Rhodes got the Disney Commercial.

[Skins247]

Actually, it was for 66 yards. And, another 77 rushing. Addai had a really good game.

My choice would have been Rhodes. 113 yards on the ground, including 2 or 3 key runs for first downs to keep the chains moving and the clock running to keep the game out of reach for the Bears.

There was really no one player that stood out in this game. With that said, there's no way Manning wasn't going to get it. He directed his club pretty well in a driving rain. He didn't get rattled after the early bad interception. He's the main cog that makes that offense go. You guys can say what you want, but it would have taken a better game from Addai or Rhodes to prevent Manning from getting it. And I think alot of the moaning stems from the fact that most of you whining simply aren't Manning fans. You're what is typically referred to as a "hater". Manning finally won the big game. Get over it. Give the man his due.

[Skins247]

^^^are you archie or eli?

Nope. And im not even a Manning fan. I just get sick of all the people that constantly criticize the guy. He's a great ambassador of the game. He keeps his nose clean. He'll probably go down in history with all the passing records. And, more importantly, he finally won the big game which alot of folks thought he never would. It's high time you guys wake up and realize what a remarkable talent this guy is. You don't have to like the guy. But at least have the decency to respect what he's accomplished.

[Skins4481]

Quit crying. They gave it to the right guy. As you said, no one really stood out from the rest. Rhodes played ok, sure. But his play wasn't any better than Manning's. And Manning is the guy that makes that offense work. Rhodes hadn't had a 100-yard game in about 5 years. With their play in this game about equal, why would he be any more deserving than a guy who's carried them for 9 years and has been one of the best players in the game?

It doesnt matter that Rhodes hadn't had a 100-yard game in a long time. All that mattered is what he did in the Super Bowl. He had 113 yards and 1TD. Super Bowl MVPs should not be given to the player who has done the most for his team over the years. It should be given to the player who had the most impact in the Super Bowl. Dominic Rhodes had the biggest impact in the Super Bowl and he should've won it.

[cozmikbuffalo]

It wasn't Manning for sure !!! Why is it always the QB , is it because he has so many endorsement deals or because his Dad is Archie . Or is it because now he can go into the HOF on the first ballot because he has won the big one and so now he needs the MVP too ? It sucks .

I would have given it to both Colt RB's or I would have given it to the Indy Defense as a whole unit since they stepped up throughout the playoffs and did what none of the talking heads said they would do .

To me it was the Indy team that won not Peyton Manning , but that's not PC now is it .

The NFL is such a patsy for commercial dollars that it has become easy for me to predict who will be in the next SB . Think about it for one minute . 2 years ago before the start of the 05 season who's face and colors were everywhere . Pittsburg and Cower , Bettis and Rothlesberger !!! everywhere everyday all season long . There were stories about Bettis' career . There were stories about Cowher being the bridesmaid never the bride and all that ----!!!!!! NFL's network had Pittsburg on everthing before the season started !!

Who won ? Pittsburg !!!

Flash forward to last season of 07 who's face did we all see whether it was coffee or telephones ? Peyton Manning !!

Who won the SB . Colts . Who is the MVP? Peyton Manning !!!

The corporations own everything now . It's entertainment baby !!!!!

Coz

[Major Harris]

Nope. And im not even a Manning fan. I just get sick of all the people that constantly criticize the guy. He's a great ambassador of the game. He keeps his nose clean. He'll probably go down in history with all the passing records. And, more importantly, he finally won the big game which alot of folks thought he never would. It's high time you guys wake up and realize what a remarkable talent this guy is. You don't have to like the guy. But at least have the decency to respect what he's accomplished.

don't say YOU GUYS to me, because i happen to like the guy. i could have cared less about this super bowl other than wanting to see him win.

that said, there is definitely a case that he wasn't the mvp based on the statistics. but stats don't tell everything. and we all know which player, if taken off the colts roster, would cause them to have very little shot to win that game.

[Major Harris]

Rypien may have thrown for 300 yards and 2 TDs, he barely completed 50 percent of his passes. A lot of those yards were because of Art Monk (114 yards) and Gary Clark (113 yards) accumulating yards after their catches. Looking at that, I think receivers had more to do with that win than Rypien.
he completed over 54% of his passes and wasn't sacked. i'm sure there were times when he made a wise choice and got rid of the ball. rypien was the mvp of that game. fair or not, qb's of the winning team are mvp's going in, and someone else will have to clearly beat him in order to win it.

[GrimReefa]

Manning. He isn't just the quarterback - he runs the offense the way no other QB in the NFL does anymore. Manning is the MVP of every game the Colts win.

[rincewind]

There was really no one player that stood out in this game. With that said, there's no way Manning wasn't going to get it. He directed his club pretty well in a driving rain. He didn't get rattled after the early bad interception. He's the main cog that makes that offense go. You guys can say what you want, but it would have taken a better game from Addai or Rhodes to prevent Manning from getting it. And I think alot of the moaning stems from the fact that most of you whining simply aren't Manning fans. You're what is typically referred to as a "hater". Manning finally won the big game. Get over it. Give the man his due.

Nope. And im not even a Manning fan. I just get sick of all the people that constantly criticize the guy. He's a great ambassador of the game. He keeps his nose clean. He'll probably go down in history with all the passing records. And, more importantly, he finally won the big game which alot of folks thought he never would. It's high time you guys wake up and realize what a remarkable talent this guy is. You don't have to like the guy. But at least have the decency to respect what he's accomplished.


Wow, perfect example of talking out of your ass. I think Manning is the greatest QB of all-time and was pulling for the Colts this game just to see him win one. I just don't know if he deserved the MVP and figured I'd start a discussion about it. Objectivity does not equal hater.

[BigRay]

Joesph Addai and Dominic Rhodes should have split the Mvp honors that would have been my choice.

[fwo40]

Dominic Rhodes would be my choice.....that spin move to pick up the 3 and 1 inside the 15 was amazing and overlooked. He wore out Baltimore in the same way and he brutalized the Bears.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

Rypien may have thrown for 300 yards and 2 TDs, he barely completed 50 percent of his passes. A lot of those yards were because of Art Monk (114 yards) and Gary Clark (113 yards) accumulating yards after their catches. Looking at that, I think receivers had more to do with that win than Rypien.

So, in a game that we won 37-24, you'd elect to give the MVP honors to a DB over the QB who engineered all those scoring drives (other than the one to start the second half since that was a one-yard drive)?

No matter how you slice it, 300 yards is 300 yards. He hit Sanders deep with a perfect throw to set up our first score and hit Clark deep for game-clinching TD after Buffalo had pulled within 24-10...so let's not make it out like he was running the West Coast offense.

I'll grant you he didn't have his best game of the year in the Super Bowl, but when you spread the ball around so that two WRs gain over 100 yards and your RB catches a TD pass...you've done fine. No one else on offense could have been named MVP since it was such a team effort (two 100-yard WRs, a RB who scored two short TDs, another RB who caught a TD and rushed OK, etc.). In those situations, the honor goes to the leader of the offense.

As for our defense, it too was far too much of a team effort to name Marshall or Edwards the MVP.

The only logical choice for that Super Bowl was Mark Rypien...and he had a much better game than Manning did this year.

[grampi]

Rex Grossman.......for the Colts.

[stwasm]

So, in a game that we won 37-24, you'd elect to give the MVP honors to a DB over the QB who engineered all those scoring drives (other than the one to start the second half since that was a one-yard drive)?

No matter how you slice it, 300 yards is 300 yards. He hit Sanders deep with a perfect throw to set up our first score and hit Clark deep for game-clinching TD after Buffalo had pulled within 24-10...so let's not make it out like he was running the West Coast offense.

I'll grant you he didn't have his best game of the year in the Super Bowl, but when you spread the ball around so that two WRs gain over 100 yards and your RB catches a TD pass...you've done fine. No one else on offense could have been named MVP since it was such a team effort (two 100-yard WRs, a RB who scored two short TDs, another RB who caught a TD and rushed OK, etc.). In those situations, the honor goes to the leader of the offense.

As for our defense, it too was far too much of a team effort to name Marshall or Edwards the MVP.

The only logical choice for that Super Bowl was Mark Rypien...and he had a much better game than Manning did this year.

Not true. Rypien may have passed for more yards than Manning (292-247), the latter had a more efficient day, completing 25 of 38 passes (65.8 percent) versus Rypien's 18 for 31 (54 percent).

[Skins247]

It wasn't Manning for sure !!! Why is it always the QB , is it because he has so many endorsement deals or because his Dad is Archie . Or is it because now he can go into the HOF on the first ballot because he has won the big one and so now he needs the MVP too ? It sucks .

I would have given it to both Colt RB's or I would have given it to the Indy Defense as a whole unit since they stepped up throughout the playoffs and did what none of the talking heads said they would do .

To me it was the Indy team that won not Peyton Manning , but that's not PC now is it .

The NFL is such a patsy for commercial dollars that it has become easy for me to predict who will be in the next SB . Think about it for one minute . 2 years ago before the start of the 05 season who's face and colors were everywhere . Pittsburg and Cower , Bettis and Rothlesberger !!! everywhere everyday all season long . There were stories about Bettis' career . There were stories about Cowher being the bridesmaid never the bride and all that ----!!!!!! NFL's network had Pittsburg on everthing before the season started !!

Who won ? Pittsburg !!!

Flash forward to last season of 07 who's face did we all see whether it was coffee or telephones ? Peyton Manning !!

Who won the SB . Colts . Who is the MVP? Peyton Manning !!!

The corporations own everything now . It's entertainment baby !!!!!

Coz


This is ridiculous. So you're telling me the NFL is fixed? Is that the best you can come up with? Man, you sure are sad. Let me guess, you're a gambler, right? Those guys are always the ones thinking a fix is in when they don't win their bets. You need to get in the real world, guy. The reason Manning is doing all those commercials and his face is everywhere is because he is one the game's best players. He's had a great career and just might go down as the greatest to ever play the game. Your face isn't everywhere if you're not any good. You ever see Rex Grossman doing any commercials? If it's so easy for you to predict the SB as you say then tell us who is going to be the winner next year. That way I can put every dollar I own on said team and never have to work another day. Heck, you should already be retired and living it up, since you seem to be able to forecast everything.

[Skins247]

It doesnt matter that Rhodes hadn't had a 100-yard game in a long time. All that mattered is what he did in the Super Bowl. He had 113 yards and 1TD. Super Bowl MVPs should not be given to the player who has done the most for his team over the years. It should be given to the player who had the most impact in the Super Bowl. Dominic Rhodes had the biggest impact in the Super Bowl and he should've won it.

Sure it matters. You actually think they were gonna give it to a guy that hadn't rushed for 100 yards in 5,6 years over an icon like Manning, who has basically carried that franchise for nearly a decade? Get real, guy. And I wasn't saying Rhodes shouldn't have gotten MVP soley because of that. I said that he shouldn't have because of that AND the fact that no one else stood out in this game. Say what you want, but no player in this game had a bigger impact than Manning. Sorry, but the game Rhodes had wasn't spectacular, as some of you are making it out to be. The fact is, there were about 5 guys they could have given it to that all had about the same impact. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that Manning was going to come away with it.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

Not true. Rypien may have passed for more yards than Manning (292-247), the latter had a more efficient day, completing 25 of 38 passes (65.8 percent) versus Rypien's 18 for 31 (54 percent).

Exactly...I'd take the more yards and the more TDs over the higher completion percentage. Hell, didn't we see that this year with Campbell vs. Brunell?

Manning completed 10 passes to Addai alone, he was checking down all game. Rypien threw down the field...he's going to have a lower completion percentage.

I'm not going to nitpick this with you because I don't care THAT much about it, but Mark deserved the MVP of that game. Maybe if we'd have had a 100 yard rusher or a WR with multiple TDs it would have been different, but a team effort like we had in XXVII was properly attributed to Rypien.

You picked the one opinion out of my long post that you could massage and try to refute (though unsuccessfully). Why don't you take the entire post and tell me where I'm incorrect.

[pjfootballer]

Domanic Rhodes would have been my vote. I don't think they'd ever give it to a rookie. If my memory serves me correctly, no Rookie has won the MVP of the SB.

[Skins247]

Domanic Rhodes would have been my vote. I don't think they'd ever give it to a rookie. If my memory serves me correctly, no Rookie has won the MVP of the SB.


There was no one by that name playing in the SB.

[Skins247]

Exactly...I'd take the more yards and the more TDs over the higher completion percentage. Hell, didn't we see that this year with Campbell vs. Brunell?

Manning completed 10 passes to Addai alone, he was checking down all game. Rypien threw down the field...he's going to have a lower completion percentage.

I'm not going to nitpick this with you because I don't care THAT much about it, but Mark deserved the MVP of that game. Maybe if we'd have had a 100 yard rusher or a WR with multiple TDs it would have been different, but a team effort like we had in XXVII was properly attributed to Rypien.

You picked the one opinion out of my long post that you could massage and try to refute (though unsuccessfully). Why don't you take the entire post and tell me where I'm incorrect.

Let me put this silly argument to rest. Of course Rypien was deserving of the MVP that game. He played a very good game that day. Not up to his play during that regular season, but still good nonetheless. As someone already mentioned, their were two WR with 100+ yards that day. It would be silly to give it to one of those guys who had similar games. The Skins built a huge lead in that game and the defense ended up giving up 24 pts that day. Therefore it wasn't going to anyone on defense. Rypien was the ONLY guy the MVP could have or should have gone to. Plus he had a near-perfect season throwing the ball all year long. Like on Sunday, its going to the guy that has meant to the most to that team all year long if there were no other guy who had an outstanding game. Rypien then, and Manning on Sunday, were both deserving winners of the MVP. You guys need to get some new material.

[pjfootballer]

There was no one by that name playing in the SB.

???????? I have absolutley no idea what you are talking about.

[Terence Newman 41]

Rhodes / Addai :)

[Boss Hogg]

Rhodes / Addai :)
Ditto..Not even close

[Skins247]

???????? I have absolutley no idea what you are talking about.

The guy butchered Rhodes name in that post. He spelled it something like, "Dominac" or something ridiculous.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

Let me put this silly argument to rest. Of course Rypien was deserving of the MVP that game. He played a very good game that day. Not up to his play during that regular season, but still good nonetheless. As someone already mentioned, their were two WR with 100+ yards that day. It would be silly to give it to one of those guys who had similar games. The Skins built a huge lead in that game and the defense ended up giving up 24 pts that day. Therefore it wasn't going to anyone on defense. Rypien was the ONLY guy the MVP could have or should have gone to. Plus he had a near-perfect season throwing the ball all year long. Like on Sunday, its going to the guy that has meant to the most to that team all year long if there were no other guy who had an outstanding game. Rypien then, and Manning on Sunday, were both deserving winners of the MVP. You guys need to get some new material.

Thanks Skins247...I didn't want to continue to hi-jack the thread, but some of the points being made against Rypien were ridiculous.

Let's hope stwasm is willing to waive the white flag now!

[Major Harris]

Let's hope stwasm is willing to waive the white flag now!

i wouldn't bet the house. :)

[BWareofDWare94]

Rhodes and Adai were absolute no brainer CO- MVP's to me. I am not hating on Manning and the choice for him as MVP but The RB combo won that game.....Heck Hayden was more of a MVP then Manning as well. His pick six was a game changer for sure.

[BigRay]

Rhodes and Adai were absolute no brainer CO- MVP's to me. I am not hating on Manning and the choice for him as MVP but The RB combo won that game.....Heck Hayden was more of a MVP then Manning as well. His pick six was a game changer for sure.


I agree Rhodes / Adai should have gotten it or even like you stated Hayden his play really closed the deal for the Colts. I think the only reason why they gave it to Manning because it's Peyton Manning you know what I mean? .

Here is a quarterback that put up unbelievable numbers year after year but the knock on him was he could never win the big one . He had a solid game but I do not think it was a MVP performance by any means.

[BWareofDWare94]

I agree Rhodes / Adai should have gotten it or even like you stated Hayden his play really closed the deal for the Colts. I think the only reason why they gave it to Manning because it's Peyton Manning you know what I mean? .

Here is a quarterback that put up unbelievable numbers year after year but the knock on him was he could never win the big one . He had a solid game but I do not think it was a MVP performance by any means.


EXACTLY, Payton got the MVP for his reputation and for what he has done in his career but for the game he was not the MVP he was the fourth best player for his team.......I still think Washington was the MVP for Dallas in SB 28, but E.Smith got it. Now Smith had 132 yards and 2 TD's so it was not that bad, but Washington had a great game 2 T.O (1 pick 1 Fumble rec. and a TD)

[BigRay]

EXACTLY, Payton got the MVP for his reputation and for what he has done in his career but for the game he was not the MVP he was the fourth best player for his team.......I still think Washington was the MVP for Dallas in SB 28, but E.Smith got it. Now Smith had 132 yards and 2 TD's so it was not that bad, but Washington had a great game 2 T.O (1 pick 1 Fumble rec. and a TD)


I agree Washington did have a great game for you guys.

[stwasm]

Thanks Skins247...I didn't want to continue to hi-jack the thread, but some of the points being made against Rypien were ridiculous.

Let's hope stwasm is willing to waive the white flag now!

I'm sorry. I still don't think he was the "best" player out there. I'll give it to him that he "managed" the game well, didn't make any egregious mistakes and can't be faulted for his one interception. But, Super Bowl history aside, I just can't call him the MVP of that game. As for the defense "giving up 24 points," those last two touchdowns were in garbage time when then-defensive coach Petitbon called off the dogs.

[stwasm]

Exactly...I'd take the more yards and the more TDs over the higher completion percentage. Hell, didn't we see that this year with Campbell vs. Brunell?

Manning completed 10 passes to Addai alone, he was checking down all game. Rypien threw down the field...he's going to have a lower completion percentage.

I'm not going to nitpick this with you because I don't care THAT much about it, but Mark deserved the MVP of that game. Maybe if we'd have had a 100 yard rusher or a WR with multiple TDs it would have been different, but a team effort like we had in XXVII was properly attributed to Rypien.

You picked the one opinion out of my long post that you could massage and try to refute (though unsuccessfully). Why don't you take the entire post and tell me where I'm incorrect.

You pointed out that he had two long pass completions -- one to Sanders, one to Clark for the touchdown. Everything else was pretty much dink and dunk. The only reason he had all those yards, and I said this before, was because Clark and Monk were able to convert short passes into long gains. Yes, Rypien had more yards, but it wasn't because he completed a variety of deep balls.

Again, I'm not saying he didn't have a good game. I just don't believe he was the best player on the field that day.

[BWareofDWare94]

I'm sorry. I still don't think he was the "best" player out there. I'll give it to him that he "managed" the game well, didn't make any egregious mistakes and can't be faulted for his one interception. But, Super Bowl history aside, I just can't call him the MVP of that game. As for the defense "giving up 24 points," those last two touchdowns were in garbage time when then-defensive coach Petitbon called off the dogs.


Washington 0 17 14 6 -- 37
Buffalo 0 0 10 14 -- 24

WAS- FG Lohmiller 34, 1:58 2nd
WAS- Byner 10 pass from Rypien (Lohmiller kick),
5:06 2nd
WAS- Riggs 1 run (Lohmiller kick), 7:43 2nd
WAS- Riggs 2 run (Lohmiller kick), 0:16 3rd
BUF- FG Norwood 21, 3:01 3rd
BUF- Thomas 1 run (Norwood kick), 9:02 3rd
WAS- Clark 30 pass from Rypien (Lohmiller kick),
13:36 3rd
WAS- FG Lohmiller 25, 0:06 4th
WAS- FG Lohmiller 39, 3:24 4th
BUF- Metzelaars 2 pass from Kelly (Norwood kick),
9:01 4th
BUF- Beebe 4 pass from Kelly (Norwood kick),
11:05 4th

TEAM STATISTICS Wash. Buff.
Total First Downs 24 25
Rushing 10 4
Passing 12 18
Penalty 2 3
Total Net Yardage 417 283
Total Offensive Plays 73 82
Avg. Gain per Offensive Play 5.7 3.5
Rushes 40 18
Yards Gained Rushing (Net) 125 43
Average Yards per Rush 3.1 2.4
Passes Attempted 33 59
Passes Completed 18 29
Had Intercepted 1 4
Tackled Attempting to Pass 0 5
Yards Lost Attempting to Pass 0 46
Yards Gained Passing (Net) 292 240
Punts 4 6
Average Distance 37.5 35.0
Punt Returns 0 3
Punt Return Yardage 0 9
Kickoff Returns 1 4
Kickoff Return Yardage 16 77
Interception Return Yardage 79 4
Fumbles 1 6
Own Fumbles Recovered 1 5
Opponent Fumbles Recovered 1 0
Penalties 5 6
Yards Penalized 82 50
Total Points Scored 37 24
Touchdowns 4 3
Rushing 2 1
Passing 2 2
Returns 0 0
Extra Points 4 3
Field Goals 3 1
Field Goals Attempted 3 1
Safeties 0 0
Third-Down Efficiency 6/16 7/17
Fourth-Down Efficiency 0/2 2/2
Time of Possession 33:43 26:17

INDIVIDUAL STATISTICS
Rushing
Washington No. Yds. LG TD
Ervins 13 72 21 0
Byner 14 49 19 0
Riggs 5 7 4 2
Sanders 1 1 1 0
Rutledge 1 0 0 0
Rypien 6 -4 2 0

Buffalo No. Yds. LG TD
K. Davis 4 17 13 0
Kelly 3 16 9 0
Thomas 10 13 6 1
Lofton 1 -3 3 0


Passing
Washington Att. Comp. Yds. TD Int.
Rypien 33 18 292 2 1

Buffalo Att. Comp. Yds. TD Int.
Kelly 58 28 275 2 4
Reich 1 1 11 0 0


Receiving
Washington No. Yds. LG TD
Clark 7 114 34 1
Monk 7 113 31 0
Byner 3 24 10t 1
Sanders 1 41 41 0

Buffalo No. Yds. LG TD
Lofton 7 92 18 0
Reed 5 34 12 0
Beebe 4 61 43 1
K. Davis 4 38 12 0
Thomas 4 27 8 0
McKeller 2 29 21 0
Edwards 1 11 11 0
Metzelaars 1 2 2t 1
Kelly 1 -8 8 0


Interceptions
Washington No. Yds. LG TD
Edwards 2 56 35 0
Gouveia 1 23 23 0
Green 1 0 0 0

Buffalo No. Yds. LG TD
Jackson 1 4 4 0


Punting
Washington No. Avg. LG Blk.
Goodburn 4 37.5 45 0

Buffalo No. Avg. LG Blk.
Mohr 6 35.0 53 0


Punt Returns
Washington No. FC Yds. LG TD
Mitchell 0 2 0 ** 0

Buffalo No. FC Yds. LG TD
Hicks 3 0 9 7 0


Kickoff Returns
Washington No. Yds. LG TD
Mitchell 1 16 16 0

Buffalo No. Yds. LG TD
Edwards 4 77 24 0One of the greatest Def of efforts from coaches to players, but it was as a group not by individuals......There was no MVP canadate on the Def. for Washington, but as a group they were dominant....

[stwasm]

One of the greatest Def of efforts from coaches to players, but it was as a group not by individuals......There was no MVP canadate on the Def. for Washington, but as a group they were dominant....

You're right. I guess Edwards stood out in my mind for his hits and how he intimidated Buffalo receivers into alligator arms on more than a few occasions. He also had a couple of picks. And yes I note Rypien's numbers and he too had a good day.

[Skins247]

Rhodes and Adai were absolute no brainer CO- MVP's to me. I am not hating on Manning and the choice for him as MVP but The RB combo won that game.....Heck Hayden was more of a MVP then Manning as well. His pick six was a game changer for sure.


Oh, please. No they weren't. They both had similar games. Both were good, not great. Manning's performance was good also. I can't believe you guys can't understand the reasoning behind why the MVP went to Manning. This isn't rocket science, guys. As for Hayden's pick. Big deal. He picked off Grossman. I think my grandmother could have intercepted that pass. And the Colts were already up 22-17 with plenty of time left. One of two things are inevitable at that point. Either Manning was going to lead them to a TD to seal it or Grossman would throw a stupid pick that would lead to a score. That pick-six should have surprised no one. The guy absolutely sucks.

[Skins247]

I agree Rhodes / Adai should have gotten it or even like you stated Hayden his play really closed the deal for the Colts. I think the only reason why they gave it to Manning because it's Peyton Manning you know what I mean? .

Here is a quarterback that put up unbelievable numbers year after year but the knock on him was he could never win the big one . He had a solid game but I do not think it was a MVP performance by any means.


It was good enough to win MVP. Again, for the hundreth time, no one else's performance overshadowed what Manning did. For Manning NOT to win MVP that day it would have taken someone to outshine Manning. I'm sorry, but neither Rhodes nor Addai did this. They had good games, yes. But it would have taken just a lil better performance to snare that MVP from Manning.

[Skins247]

EXACTLY, Payton got the MVP for his reputation and for what he has done in his career but for the game he was not the MVP he was the fourth best player for his team.......I still think Washington was the MVP for Dallas in SB 28, but E.Smith got it. Now Smith had 132 yards and 2 TD's so it was not that bad, but Washington had a great game 2 T.O (1 pick 1 Fumble rec. and a TD)


It's a good thing guys like you don't vote. Btw, it's "Peyton". :doh:

[twenty-eight]

i missed the game, I watched puppy bowl III for thirteen hours

[BWareofDWare94]

It's a good thing guys like you don't vote. Btw, it's "Peyton". :doh:

my bad....Peyton, but hey we all have an opinion on it so whos to say. Manning won the award so there is no reason to argue it, but the thread asked for opinions of who we thought should have won it...."who was YOUR Super Bowl MVP"....and for me it was Rhodes/Adai.......

and its alweays a big deal to pick off a pass and return it for 6 when your team is up by 5. No matter who threw the darn ball....dont diminish the man for his great play.

[BWareofDWare94]

i missed the game, I watched puppy bowl III for thirteen hours


:laugh::laugh::laugh:


The puppy bowl was awesome...the boxer pup is definitly the MVP he was tearin the place up!:laugh::laugh:

[TD_washingtonredskins]

You pointed out that he had two long pass completions -- one to Sanders, one to Clark for the touchdown. Everything else was pretty much dink and dunk. The only reason he had all those yards, and I said this before, was because Clark and Monk were able to convert short passes into long gains. Yes, Rypien had more yards, but it wasn't because he completed a variety of deep balls.

Again, I'm not saying he didn't have a good game. I just don't believe he was the best player on the field that day.

Fair enough, we disagree.

My point is that Rypien distinguished himself the most in a total team win. He did so by running the offense and outscoring a good Buffalo team. If you think Edwards distinguished himself more than Mark, that's fine. No worries.

At least we have SB MVPs to debate about....

:eaglesuck :laugh:

When in doubt...find common ground!

[stwasm]

Fair enough, we disagree.

My point is that Rypien distinguished himself the most in a total team win. He did so by running the offense and outscoring a good Buffalo team. If you think Edwards distinguished himself more than Mark, that's fine. No worries.

At least we have SB MVPs to debate about....

:eaglesuck :laugh:

When in doubt...find common ground!

Amen!

[Skins247]

my bad....Peyton, but hey we all have an opinion on it so whos to say. Manning won the award so there is no reason to argue it, but the thread asked for opinions of who we thought should have won it...."who was YOUR Super Bowl MVP"....and for me it was Rhodes/Adai.......

and its alweays a big deal to pick off a pass and return it for 6 when your team is up by 5. No matter who threw the darn ball....dont diminish the man for his great play.

I never said Hayden's pick wasn't important. It was. Heck it pretty much sealed the win for Indy. All I was saying that you have to consider that it was a horrible pass by Grossman. Great play? How is that? He looked more like he was playing CF, where you camp under a lazy fly ball. I guess you could call it great by the way he was able to stay in bounds. Sure, I'll agree with that.

[909997]

everyone was awesome

but manning called the plays

[twenty-eight]

:laugh::laugh::laugh:


The puppy bowl was awesome...the boxer pup is definitly the MVP he was tearin the place up!:laugh::laugh:

I was EXTREMLY disappointed in the kitty halftime show. The kitties weren't even cute! TOTAL SNOOZEFEST