Wizards @ NJ Thread

[ACW]

Hopefully we can stop Kidd and Carter (you think Carter might be looking to pay back Gil for taking his starting spot?).

[DoGood28]

DAMNIT! It's not on TV down here in Norfolk again!

THAT'S IT! I'M GOING TO FLIP OUT. THIS IS PISSING ME OFF. THIS IS THE 4TH GAME IN THE LAST 7 THAT I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO WATCH YOU BASTARDS.

[Chachie]

News Channel 8 again. I have Direct TV. :(

[skinsfan07]

Channel 8, Damnit!

When is the next CSN game gonna be on? And why don't they have wiz local games on directv? Damnit!

[r2k64]

It's going to be a big test tonight for the Wiz, especially without Caron.
The Wizards have sent forward Caron Butler back to Washington from New Jersey to get treatment for lower back spasms. Butler will be a game-time decision for tomorrow's game versus the Heat at Verizon Center. Jarvis Hayes will again start in place for Butler who did not play in Sunday's loss at Minnesota.http://dc-wizards.blogspot.com/

Ugggghhhhhh, why??? :doh: Darius imo should start at the 4, and move Blatche down to the 3. Gil is going to have to have a better shooting effort tonight than he did vs. Minny. The Wiz will need lots of players to step their games up on both ends of the court, if we're going to leave NJ with a win. It's going to be a tough one, but go Wiz!!!

[kevin11]

is this game on TV? I checked comcast and the caps are on.

[skinsfan07]

Not Caron too? Man this sucks. Hopefully we pull out the W and Gil has like 50.

Deshawn will have to have a big game and Blatche, Songalia and Hayes will def. need to step up.

[LiveStrongSkins]

Another recipe for disaster game. I'll hope for a miracle but wont be surprised if we lose this one. Jarvis Hayes is garbage and hell shoot 20 shots to make 2, meanwhile giving NJ 18 extra possessions.

[mboyd784]

No comcast! Capitals instead? The tragic bloodsport known as "ice soccer" can't die quick enough for me.

[r2k64]

I mean I don't want to rush Jamison back, but with him practicing yesterday, that was a good sign. Maybe he'll surprise us and play tonight? I know, wishful thinking. We could sure use him with Caron out tonight.

[egtuna]

For you locals with directv, check out channel 659 (or 658 maybe) for the game. I've noticed that for games that channel8 broadcasts, directv has been putting them on 659 (and one time i believe it was 658).

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

My DirectTV guide shows it on 752. That's an NBA League Pass channel so maybe it won't be on there? I don't know. That's the only place I saw it though. 659, where it normally is on, says To Be Announced.

[Chachie]

No comcast! Capitals instead? The tragic bloodsport known as "ice soccer" can't die quick enough for me.



Amen, Brother.

[Chachie]

For you locals with directv, check out channel 659 (or 658 maybe) for the game. I've noticed that for games that channel8 broadcasts, directv has been putting them on 659 (and one time i believe it was 658).


Aaaaaaahh! Thank you, SIR!


:fingersx:

[phishisthegreatstuff]

i don't think caron is going to play...this one could be ugly.

[skinsfan07]

Aaaaaaahh! Thank you, SIR!


:fingersx:

It's not on either channell.

:mad:

[skinsfan07]

My DirectTV guide shows it on 752. That's an NBA League Pass channel so maybe it won't be on there? I don't know. That's the only place I saw it though. 659, where it normally is on, says To Be Announced.

Maybe it'll pop up at 7:30 on channel 659.

As for NBA TV, you have to buy the package to watch the games.

[twenty-eight]

Jarvis should start reading what is said about him in this forum.

Jarvis, if you can hear me...now is a PERFECT time to STEP UP!!!!! you can do it!



I think I'm gonna tivo the game and go play some ball...catch you all later. hope we win:)

[WizSkinsO's]

Did anyone else hear that Jamison may surprise everyone and play? Apparently he did a full-contact practice already.

[PCRoughrider]

Where's the game???

I'm about to set it off in here!!!

[PCRoughrider]

Where's the game???

I'm about to set it off in here!!!

It's a 7:30 start, not 7:05.

I was ready to lose it! :D

[Warhead36]

Butler and Jamison both out? Road game in Joisey where we never win?




Wiz win 120-95. :D

[boysetsfire]

Is this game on Comcast HD like last time?? PLEASE OH PLEASE SAY ITS TRUE

[Warhead36]

Is this game on Comcast HD like last time?? PLEASE OH PLEASE SAY ITS TRUE

NC 8

[Diablo23]

Butler and Jamison both out? Road game in Joisey where we never win?




Wiz win 120-95. :D


Ohhhh.. Daring

I'll be enjoying the game from the comfort of my couch.. See you all at halftime or after..

:cheers:

[boysetsfire]

NC 8

Dammit.

[MonkFan8]

Not gonna be around to watch this one but wanted to say go Wiz :)

[ACW]

Ugh-Butler a game-time decision tomorrow vs. Miami-at least it'll be a home game for us.

[SantanaClaus89]

Almost game time... let's go Wiz

[Diablo23]

Welp not coming on 659 :(

[mboyd784]

And Arvis Holdman starts with a miss!

Edit: Is Hayes guarding Carter? cause that could be very bad.

[SantanaClaus89]

Ugh... this could be a long night...

Get well soon AJ and CB...

[mboyd784]

Anyone wanna take a guess at Gil shooting % for tonite. I'll say 40%, no higher.

[SantanaClaus89]

LOL Hayes got OWNED...

[SantanaClaus89]

Is it too late for AJ to go in the locker room and get dressed?

LOL Ruffin is out tonight too after experiencing "dizziness."

Man I just wish everyone would get healthy and damn quick

[ACW]

This is turning ugly, quickly-and good lord, can anyone stop Vince?

[BayouBrave86]

Vince Carter 11 Wizards 3

[ACW]

Wow, AJ may return tomorrow.

[mboyd784]

Hayes 0-4? I never thought I'd say this but....Mason NOW!

[skinsfan07]

Come on wiz. Get it together.

[mad4comp]

Rofl, Hayes......why is he still on the team? Total waste.

[SantanaClaus89]

I CANNOT believe Hayes started this game...

How much more does he have to suck for EJ to realize he sucks? :doh:

[SantanaClaus89]

Rofl, Hayes......why is he still on the team? Total waste.

Whoa, where you been at man? Good to see you...

[Big C]

this is getting pretty rediculous...yet again not on comcast thats like 3 or 4 in a ro

[skinsfan07]

19-12 Nets and VC has 13 of em.

[mboyd784]

EJ needs to stop focusing so much on defense. It's clearly throwing Hayes off his game.

[SantanaClaus89]

LOL at Hayes... did anyone see him do that just now?

[skinsfan07]

Nets up 22-18 after one.

Hopefully we go into the half with a lead.

[SantanaClaus89]

It's not a good sign that Haywood is the teams leading scorer right now...

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

So I guess the game isn't on DirectTV. I've been through the guide about ten THOUSAND times now. I ****ing hate Comcast, who the **** cares about the Caps, and I ****ing hate DirectTV.

[ACW]

Man, I kinda feel bad for Hayes-you know this has to be frustrating for him like crazy.

We're still in it.

[Big C]

arenas and hayes are 2-10 combined from the field...not again...nooooooooooo

[DoGood28]

For those of you who cannot watch the game like myself, the game will be rebroadcast on CSN at 1:30 AM.

[SantanaClaus89]

Wow, way to step up, Roger... Keep it up

[ACW]

Man, I like what I'm seeing from Mason-hopefully he can do the same thing to Williams and Boone that the last Mason they faced did :laugh:

[DoGood28]

Blatche with 2 fouls already? Damn. He needs to work on that.

[ACW]

Wow, who playing now here played in the 80s?

[mboyd784]

Mason is a player.

[mboyd784]

Wow, who playing now here played in the 80s?

Mr. Robinson from Uconn.

[SantanaClaus89]

WOOT! Go 'head Roger!

[SantanaClaus89]

Mason is FEELING it boy!

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

Oh and **** Jerry Heller and the white super powers. Sorry, had to get my Cube on.

Yeah guess I'll catch it at 130. American Idol time. *sigh*

Go Wizards!!!

[DonMagicJuan]

WOW mason jr...i just turend onto cbssportsline.com and checked the game cast...(i dont have news channel 8) and O MY LORD...this guy just hit 2 straight 3's and he has like 11 points hahaha, man is EN FUEGO..

[ACW]

Wow, Mason!:yikes:

[skinsfan07]

So I guess the game isn't on DirectTV. I've been through the guide about ten THOUSAND times now. I ****ing hate Comcast, who the **** cares about the Caps, and I ****ing hate DirectTV.

I know right?

When the Wiz are on, the CAPS SHOULD BE OFF!

**** Hockey
It's all about them wiz!

[Thanos]

Darius needs to watch that complaining to the refs.

[SantanaClaus89]

Gotta love the no-calls :doh:

[skinsfan07]

Oh and **** Jerry Heller and the white super powers. Sorry, had to get my Cube on.

Yeah guess I'll catch it at 130. American Idol time. *sigh*

Go Wizards!!!

Dude, do like I do, catch it on sportsline, or

use this link to try to watch the games on TVU. The link is dead for me.

Watch NBA games online for free (http://www.myp2p.eu/NBA.htm)

[LiveStrongSkins]

Hard to win when the refs are on Carters nuts. A walk is a walk for god sakes.

[mad4comp]

Whoa, where you been at man? Good to see you...

Ton of homework mainly. Plus I have three midterms tomorrow....that reminds me, why am I here???? :doh:

[Big C]

donnell taylor with 5 assists in 4 minutes

[mboyd784]

I might have sat Gil for the rest of the half. The team was playing better ball without all the brick-laying.

[DoGood28]

I know right?

When the Wiz are on, the CAPS SHOULD BE OFF!

**** Hockey
It's all about them wiz!

I doubt that you're serious, but I'll comment all the same.

People like the Capitals including myself and they DO represent the Washington region. I'm a fan of ALL of my home teams and the Caps have the right to be on just as much as the Wizards do.

[skinsfan07]

Yes, I got it on TVU!

[Spaceman Spiff]

Hows Blatche look?

[mboyd784]

Yes, I got it on TVU!

Your sig rules.

[DoGood28]

Damn Gil. This whole 1-7 line is beginning to look awful familiar. You're better than this and now is the time to put this team on your back and win despite adversity.

[DoGood28]

Your sig rules.

Yes, except for the fact that I have to wait for it to load on every page.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Clifford Robinsons still playing? holy ****.

[DoGood28]

This looks like a good game judging from CBS gamecast. How is it going?

[thelarkascend1ng]

hahaha arenas and hayes with timely shots here

[Spaceman Spiff]

Wow, holy ****.

That'll be on sportscenter tonight. Saw that coming a mile away.

[Bounce]

Dude, do like I do, catch it on sportsline, or

use this link to try to watch the games on TVU. The link is dead for me.

Watch NBA games online for free (http://www.myp2p.eu/NBA.htm)

Holy crap, it works.

You, sir, are a god among men.

[ACW]

Man, Gil's not shooting well-maybe he should keep assassinating them with slashing daggers :laugh: :laugh:

[DoGood28]

Does anyone have an overview of the flow of the game for those poor souls among us that cannot watch it or hear it?

[mboyd784]

Gil now 7 of 34 in the last 6 qtrs. I wonder if he's playing internet poker at halftime. Time to change the shoes.

[SantanaClaus89]

Does anyone have an overview of the flow of the game for those poor souls among us that cannot watch it or hear it?

Hey man it's on TVU... you can watch it

[ACW]

Does anyone have an overview of the flow of the game for those poor souls among us that cannot watch it or hear it? Bad 1st quarter (Carter :doh: ), got a good 2nd quarter; Gil's been shooting not so well, but doing well driving to the basket.

http://www.nba.com/games/20070227/WASNJN/boxscore.html

[skinsfan07]

Yea Wiz! As soon as I get the game on TVU, we start winning! Woo!

[argentina_redskins]

TVU is amazing!

Jarvis Hayes ... OMG

Taylor :):):)

Songaila ... u suck ... I'm scared every time you touch da ball ... but ur a wizard ... so we gotta deal w/ u ..

[skinsfan07]

Gil now 7 of 34 in the last 6 qtrs. I wonder if he's playing internet poker at halftime. Time to change the shoes.

Yeah he was 4-22 last game. Dang, something's wrong with him. At least he is scoring though.

[B.Lloyd]

It's nice to see that we are beating a supposedly "playoff team" without our other two best players. Gilbert's cold streak will end pretty soon. He'll shoot his way out of it.

[mboyd784]

It's nice to see that we are beating a supposedly "playoff team" without our other two best players. Gilbert's cold streak will end pretty soon. He'll shoot his way out of it.

That's the only way out.:cheers:

[roadkill]

TVU is amazing!

Hell yeah. Too bad I didn't realize earlier though :(

[SantanaClaus89]

Butler and AJ PLEASE GET WELL!

[SantanaClaus89]

Hayes must have compromising photos of EJ and his wife or something...

That's the only legit explanation I can think of that he has 18 minutes and Mason has 7

[skinsfan07]

Originally Posted by argentina_redskins
TVU is amazing!


^^^ All thanks to me! I kid. LOL

:notworthy TVU! It's awesome.

[roadkill]

Hayes must have compromising photos of EJ and his wife or something...

Hayes makes me cringe everytime he touches the ball

[SantanaClaus89]

^^^ All thanks to me! I kid. LOL

:notworthy TVU! It's awesome.

Yep.. some of the other channels have some weird **** on them tho... :laugh:

[skinsfan07]

Too bad we can't listen to Buck and Phil on TVU though. Just Marv Albert and Mark Jackson.

[Big C]

rojadirecta.com has lots of games from the nba and from the soccer world, u need to download p2p programs to use most of them though

[SantanaClaus89]

Yep, you can't beat Buck...

[Spaceman Spiff]

Wonder if Joumana Kidd is sitting on the sidelines yelling obscenities at Jason.

[SantanaClaus89]

Uh oh... could he be heating up?

[skinsfan07]

Bull****! 3 str8 3's from Jason Kidd? He doesn't shoot like dat!

Oh well 60-58 Wiz. DS just went down. Hope he's OK,we dont need another starter out.

[Nighthawk]

I'll tell you what screwed Gil up, it was the 3 point contest he had with Stevenson. To many 1 armed shots. No his head is all screwed up... :munchout:

[skinsfan07]

Dang it Hayes!

tied up. Kidd is on fire!

[Spaceman Spiff]

Gil needs to stop this one on one ****.

[Mooka]

How about someone actually guard Kidd out there...

[skinsfan07]

Kidd with another ****ing 3!

Nets on a 19-5 run. Kidd has hit five 3's in a row. Nets up 68-62.

[SantanaClaus89]

Kidd with another ****ing 3!

Nets on a 19-5 run. Kidd has hit five 3's in a row. Nets up 68-62.

LOL.. Marv Albert must be going nuts..

[r2k64]

Damn, Kidd is quite on a hot streak. Hopefully that doesn't last. At least Carter has been quiet in the 3rd quarter so far, plus he just picked up his 3rd foul, so that's good.

[skinsfan07]

LOL.. Marv Albert must be going nuts..

He's trying to act like Buck. :D

Well lemme tell ya something, NO ONE can **** with Buck, not even you Marv. :notworthy

[roadkill]

Damn I hate Mikki Moore

[DoGood28]

TVU link didn't work for me.

[B.Lloyd]

is it possible to get a rebound?

[monkforhall]

TVU link didn't work for me.



Not worth watching right now. Getting out hustled

[LiveStrongSkins]

Well that could be it. New Jersey playing team ball while we look like a high school team.

[MorgantownHokie88]

This game is now over.

[TaylorPickSix]

What is up with Gil lately? 5 for 17? Not like him at all.
I'm pissed because this game was supposed to be on comcast for me but instead its the Caps.

[B.Lloyd]

This game is now over.It's 2:33 left in the 3rd quarter not the 4th silly:laugh:

[ACW]

This game is now over. :doh: :doh: :doh: ONE MORE QUARTER STILL LEFT:rolleyes:

[monkforhall]

This game is now over.

were going to win

[B.Lloyd]

lookin a lot better...gil especially

[SantanaClaus89]

TVU link didn't work for me.

Did you install TVU?

If so, it takes a minute or two for the stream to start

[B.Lloyd]

and we cut it to one.

[SantanaClaus89]

EXCELLENT run to end the third...

It's a new ballgame.. let's go Wiz CLOSE IT OUT!

[DoGood28]

Looks like a strong end to the 3rd.

[r2k64]

Great run to end the 3rd. Let's hope it carries over to the 4th. Go Wiz!

[skinsfan07]

Damn we should have taken the lead at the end of that quarter.

Mason is on fire BTW.

[Big C]

blatche seems to have really cooled off these last few games. also seems hayes has bounced back somewhat, hes near a double double

[Big C]

why is daniels getting no playing time lately?

[monkforhall]

intensity is way up for wiz

[skinsfan07]

nice move by Mason

He has 16

[SantanaClaus89]

why is daniels getting no playing time lately?

That is an EXCELLENT question that I would love to know the answer to...

He hasn't even been on the floor tonight.

[DoGood28]

nice move by Mason

He has 16

Is that a career high for him?

[skinsfan07]

Jarvis has 15.

[LiveStrongSkins]

Jesus come on Blatche catch the ****ing ball.

[skinsfan07]

Is that a career high for him?

18 is, 3 yrs ago vs. the nets. LOL

[B.Lloyd]

no rebounding = no win

[SantanaClaus89]

I hate to say it but I think it's over...

[B.Lloyd]

9 point lead for nets. in a blink of an eye they just may have sealed the game but you never know.

[LiveStrongSkins]

Booth is such a ****ing bum.

[PCRoughrider]

When the Wizards are defending, the lane always seems to be so clear! :doh:

[B.Lloyd]

we're ******* doomed. Gilbert's almost fouled out.

[skinsfan07]

down by 9 now!

Come on Wiz!

[SantanaClaus89]

Carter Just kicked Kidd in the nads.... lol

[roadkill]

5th ****ing foul

[PCRoughrider]

Jarvis hits a shot. :yikes:

[skinsfan07]

Gil better not foul out. WE need him!

[B.Lloyd]

wow we dodged a huge bullet when Kidd passed for an easy layup

[Spaceman Spiff]

I can't believe Arvis has 18 points.

He's like...doubled his season output in one game.

[thelarkascend1ng]

hayes with a 3!

[SantanaClaus89]

"Mr. 50" will be "Mr. 10" if he misses one more shot..

[B.Lloyd]

why does gilbert keep shooting 3's? It baffles me. He should be driving and either getting to the line or the and 1.

[LiveStrongSkins]

Arenas is shooting us out of the eastern standings. Please Antawn come back.

[roadkill]

Come on Gil you can take House. Get to the line

[skinsfan07]

This is bull****. The refs are favoring the Nets, calling every damn foul possible. f*** NJ.

[monkforhall]

we live and die with our shooting, need a big man scoring threat so bad

[CMonster]

why does gilbert keep shooting 3's? It baffles me. He should be driving and either getting to the line or the and 1.5 fouls.

[thelarkascend1ng]

why does gilbert keep shooting 3's? It baffles me. He should be driving and either getting to the line or the and 1.

i think the 5 personal fouls probably has something to do with it

[skinsfan07]

Wiz need a 6-0 run at least. Get back in it. Still plenty time to comeback.

[B.Lloyd]

GOD DAMMIT. Stop ******* fouling. We cut the damn lead and then foul. WTF? Where's the ******* rebounding? We're gonna lose.

[Spaceman Spiff]

The small lineup.

Cause getting rebounds here and pounding it inside and drawing fouls here doesn't help

:doh:

[skinsfan07]

Good Mason back in. We need the boost from 3's.

[B.Lloyd]

NO ******* DEFENSE. Obviously no one wants to win or they would have covered the damn shooter.

[SantanaClaus89]

I said it last game and I'll say it again...

Honestly you cannot expect to win with two of the "big 3" out...

Our team is built around offense, the offense is built around the "big 3."
I don't care if it's the Mavs or the Celtics, it's almost impossible to win without 2 of our best 3 players.

Get well CB and AJ! Hope you're both back tomorrow night...

[Mooka]

We need a stop and there's goes a wide open tre...

bleh

[PCRoughrider]

That was Jarvis that just left his man wide open.

[skinsfan07]

We get a ****ing 3 and that b**** Nacjgaber gets one back at us. I hate ****'s like that.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Cant we play good D for once!

[B.Lloyd]

I said it last game and I'll say it again...

Honestly you cannot expect to win with two of the "big 3" out...

Our team is built around offense, the offense is built around the "big 3."
I don't care if it's the Mavs or the Celtics, it's almost impossible to win without 2 of our best 3 players.

Get well CB and AJ! Hope you're both back tomorrow night...yeah, but can anyone including the big three contest a shot from the outside. Wide open shots galore. This is exactly why we will NEVER win an NBA championship with this group of players. No one wants to play defense.

[B.Lloyd]

10 point lead for Nets. Blindly fouling the Nets for no reason. Nice job idiots.

[skinsfan07]

Still just a 8 pt game! Plenty of time to win. We need a run but can't let these bastards keep running us!

[SantanaClaus89]

We win by outscoring... that's the way it has been for 3 years now... you ought to know the mentality of the team by now.

[PCRoughrider]

This team is just so unsound defensively.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Wow, Arvis drilled a three.

[skinsfan07]

f***ing Nacjcbad cvwcv wacjh asc

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[B.Lloyd]

another foul...and 1. Our players must have no will whatsover to play good basketball. I'd take a team that values dfense moreso then offense any day.

[B.Lloyd]

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we fell below .500 before the season ends. This team is an awful mess.

[monkforhall]

f***ing Nacjcbad cvwcv wacjh asc

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yep , ditto

[SantanaClaus89]

Well, have a good night guys...

Hopefully one or both of our guys will be back tomorrow night.

See you then.

[PCRoughrider]

I wonder does this team know how to play defense, technically?

[Spaceman Spiff]

Goddamn man.

I understand two of the big three are out, but we were in this game.

Getting blown out is one thing. Not being able to seal the deal is another.

[roadkill]

Every ****ing time a Nets player 'beats' his man he's immediately fouled. Every single time

[B.Lloyd]

I'm predicting we lose by atleast 10 tomorrow against the Heat.

[SantanaClaus89]

Goddamn man.

I understand two of the big three are out, but we were in this game.

Getting blown out is one thing. Not being able to seal the deal is another.

Yeah but the key was always the fact that when someone went cold, one of the 3 would carry the O...

That can't happen with them sitting in street clothes.

[argentina_redskins]

Ok guys ... we sucked ... but I have to admit that it's really hard to play w/out 2 of your best 3 players.

And if we keep shooting this low we ain't going nowhere.

The good part is that Caron and AJ are coming back in the next couple of games, and we are still sitting at #2 with this horrible team we are fielding rite now!

[Mooka]

Franchise record number of 3's for the Nets... :doh:

[Spaceman Spiff]

I wonder does this team know how to play defense, technically?

This teams concept of defense is standing around 6 feet inside the three point line while the other team shoots ****ing wide open and uncontested all ****ing game.

****.

[argentina_redskins]

And one more thing ...

STOP THE MOTHER****ING FOULING ...

EVERY TIME THEY DRIVE TO THE BASKET WE HAVE TO FOUL THEM???

[skinsfan07]

We suck.

Who the ***K are the nets to hit 16 mother ****ing 3's on us?!?!?!?

****!!!!!!!!!!!! Dang it!

[Warhead36]

**** that was such a frustrating as **** game. Once again it's close in the 4th quarter and once again we let it slip away. 3 straight games. UGH!

Didn't help that the Nets set a new franchise record for 3s. Get a hand in their face!

[skinsfan07]

Ok guys ... we sucked ... but I have to admit that it's really hard to play w/out 2 of your best 3 players.

And if we keep shooting this low we ain't going nowhere.

The good part is that Caron and AJ are coming back in the next couple of games, and we are still sitting at #2 with this horrible team we are fielding rite now!

We're #3 now b/c the ****ing Cavs won!

Damn I'm soooooooooo pissed!

***k NJ! Dang AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Fifty Gut]

**** Jersey

[thelarkascend1ng]

losing sucks so bad ughhh

[SantanaClaus89]

It will be OK everyone... Let our guys get back healthy before you predict doom and bury the team's chances..

[argentina_redskins]

2 good things:

- Roger Mason Jr. is coming along.

- Jarvis Hayes had a pretty good game.

Bad things:
- Defense. Not going into detail cuz it could take all nite
- Stevenson. Where r u Mr. 50%?
- Blatche.
- Arenas, (just in this game), u guys could disagree but we REALLY needed him to carry the team tonight. Although I agree that it's impossible to do it with THIS team.
- Songaila. Dude, you suck, please bail out of you contract ... pleaseee ?? :)
- Calvin Booth. You play 4 minutes a game and you get to mess up this much?

Ok guys ... I am really pissed cuz we really sucked tonite ... but it's just a game without 2 out of our Top 3 ...

[r2k64]

I wonder why Antonio didn't play tonight (not that it would have made a huge difference)? Jarvis probably had his best game of the season tonight. Mason tied his career-high with 18. Too many 3's allowed though. The Nets put on a 3-point clinic tonight. Hopefully the Wiz will regroup and come up with a much-needed win tomorrow tonight vs. the Heat.

[Spaceman Spiff]

This team may make the playoffs, and it might get to the 2nd round.

They need to learn to play defense though. At least they can make it ****ing look like they're giving two ****s.

[skinsfan07]

113-101 is the final.

We are now 31-24
5 ****ing games behind the pistons and 3rd in the conference since the travaliers won.

[PCRoughrider]

This wasn't a lack of the Big 3 loss. This was a horrendous defense loss.

HORRENDOUS!

[Warhead36]

I'm more upset at the way we ended this roadie. Three straight road games where the game could have been won in the 4th and Three straight times we fold. Yes I know we were missing two of our top three in the latter two but still. Gotta show more mental toughness and be able to finish out strong in road games.

[skinsfan07]

Once AJ and Tough Juice get back, it'll be on! We're gonna run through sorry a** teams like the nets who we should beat easy.

[Mr. Grundle]

Nice games from Hayes and Mason. Inability to guard to the perimeter lost this game.

[B.Lloyd]

This team is doomed from the beginning. They don't give a damn about defense, therefore, we will never get past the 2nd round. It's disturbing to see a coach as successful as EJ in the past 3 seasons, can't get his players to play an ounce of defense, nevertheless having the will to rebound. It's miraculous that we actually beat all those teams from the West this season as well as the Pistons twice.

[ACW]

They shot the lights out from beyond the arc (16-32). That is all :( :mad: :doh:

[Spaceman Spiff]

Nice games from Hayes and Mason. Inability to guard to the perimeter lost this game.

My single biggest gripe with this team.

I rant on this every game, I thought I was the only one who sees this but I'm glad I'm not.

I have NEVER seen another nba team give up so many wide open three pointers on a consistant basis.

****ing PATHETIC

[Warhead36]

I stopped caring about the Defense. It's atrocious but it isn't going to change now. We have to outscore and outpace teams to win and almost hope to get lucky to get stops.

[WizSkinsO's]

My single biggest gripe with this team.

I rant on this every game, I thought I was the only one who sees this but I'm glad I'm not.

I have NEVER seen another nba team give up so many wide open three pointers on a consistant basis.

****ing PATHETIC
Agreed completely. I don't even get how they do it. Does anyone here have extensive basketball experience or game-watching analytical ability that can tell us WHAT THE **** THE PROBLEM IS?!!!

It looks like we play solid defense when we don't have little lineups with no center to steal off the counter. But the Nets just dished the ball around so swiftly on the outside to pop a wide-open three every time. I don't get it. Is it effort? Who is not doing their job right? Can it be taught/corrected?

I never see us create threes with such ease. How can every team do it against us?

[jps36]

My single biggest gripe with this team.

I rant on this every game, I thought I was the only one who sees this but I'm glad I'm not.

I have NEVER seen another nba team give up so many wide open three pointers on a consistant basis.

****ing PATHETIC

Why is the team so bad defensively though? Is it coaching, a lack of effort, or just a lack of defensive talent?

[B.Lloyd]

They shot the lights out from beyond the arc (16-32). That is all :( :mad: :doh:every team does. nothing new.

[B.Lloyd]

Remember when Gilbert said he was gonna place a big emphasis on defense during the Team USA tryouts? Where the hell has that all went?

[Spaceman Spiff]

Why is the team so bad defensively though? Is it coaching, a lack of effort, or just a lack of defensive talent?

I don't think it's a lack of talent. All our guys are athletic enough and have enough energy.

IMO, its coaching and a lack of effort...the two kinda go hand in hand.

It's like they're afraid to get out on the perimeter because they're afraid they'll get beat inside. So they stand around in ****ing no mans land between the low post and the perimeter waiting to collapse on anything in the low post. The ball gets kicked out past the three point line and they're stuck too far in to do anything about it.

Thats my best guess.

[Sticksboi05]

Arenas..........7 of 25...That's not good enough. He is so inconsistent.

[PCRoughrider]

Somebody should be shot or fired for that defensive performance tonight. :mad:

[skinsfan07]

We need a defensive coach badly. Someone who can teach this team how to play the perimeter. And how not to foul EVERY TIME SOMEONE DRIVES ON US!

[TakeTheFG]

EJ reminds of donnie nelson and the old mavs with their big 3. No defensive committment and all offense. Now we see the evolution of the Mavs and Dirk's game to the next level with the defensive capability. They never did anything in the playoffs until avery took over..

[Chachie]

Wow. I'm so glad I couldn't watch this game. I'm anger-free right now. Subjecting one's self to a loss like this was only stressing at best. :)

Who the "F" is Bostjan Blach-blah? More importantly, who was guarding him?

[skinsfan07]

Wow. I'm so glad I couldn't watch this game. I'm anger-free right now. Subjecting one's self to a loss like this was only stressing at best. :)

Who the "F" is Bostjan Blach-blah? More importantly, who was guarding him?

Jarvis was guarding that prick.

He had like 14 FT's made. and like three 3's. Basturd.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Who the "F" is Bostjan Blach-blah? More importantly, who was guarding him?

Some euro trash dude.

And no one.

[MoochieDC_86]

One thing I noticed tonight is the Gilbert is selfish. Before you all blast me about being an Arenas hater, that I am not...I love Gil (no homo). But tonight it finally clicked. All that talk about how EJ said Gil is no leader, he was right. Even when Kobe knows his shot is off he passes. Possession after possession after possession Gil looked off Jarvis, Mason, Stevenson. All that kept popping in my head was "Quality Shots". He was taking fadeaway threes with hands in his face left and right. He needs to step it up. For us to consistently win, we need Gil to be a leader, not Antawn.

And don't think I'm a Kobe lover just because I reference that game a couple times. I can't stand him.

[Chachie]

Every game some no-name makes a new name off the Wizard's D. Maddening.

[Chachie]

One thing I noticed tonight is the Gilbert is selfish. Before you all blast me about being an Arenas hater, that I am not...I love Gil (no homo). But tonight it finally clicked. All that talk about how EJ said Gil is no leader, he was right. Even when Kobe knows his shot is off he passes. Possession after possession after possession Gil looked off Jarvis, Mason, Stevenson. All that kept popping in my head was "Quality Shots". He was taking fadeaway threes with hands in his face left and right. He needs to step it up. For us to consistently win, we need Gil to be a leader, not Antawn.

And don't think I'm a Kobe lover just because I reference that game a couple times. I can't stand him.

Gilbert NEVER has more than 5 assists. Point Guard. Shame.

[Warhead36]

Well this Offense is built more around isolation and guys being able to create their own shot. Gil is more of a hybrid PG/SG. What we need is a guy like Larry Hughes to play the SG, a tall guy with handles who compliments Gil. In 04-05 our starting backcourt was giving us near 10 APG.

At full health it works because we have so many guys that can beat the Defense. But if even one guy is out it throws the whole thing off. I'd like to see our Offense at full 100% health(as in including Songaila as well).

[PapaDRoc]

Every game some no-name makes a new name off the Wizard's D. Maddening.
NACHBAR!!!!



:doh:

[Chachie]

NACHBAR!!!!



:doh:






:)

[hands11]

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=270227017

Did Taylor really have 5 assists in 6 mins?

I know everyone is focused on the D but there is more I don't like about what we are doing.

I still don't like that we don't have a good PG. Gil is awesome on the fast break pass but there is something I have seen for years that I don't like. Its how he takes so many shots not in the offense. This dates back to the first year he got here. Its that he does it and then to make it worse, he does it over and over and over even if he is missing. Same thing he and Hughes used to do. Its so old. Just run the offense and shot when you get and open shot. That's the shot he was making.

I was shocked at the crap Hayes did last night because I was going to point about how he is going to make it and stick around. He rebounded nicely tonight. He also forces to many shots not in the offense but he hit the open ones tonight. He also rebounded well. 2 years off must be hard to recover from.

What this team lacks is organization and discipline. They lack it on both sides, offense and defense.

What we are good at is just street ball. That isn't going to work in the playoffs.

Gil is one of the most talented SG in the league, but he isn't efficient with this talent. At least not consistently which to me is part of being efficient. He doesn't play in a team concept enough of the time. He could be better then Nash if he would just play smarter. Right now he is more of an early Iverson to me.

I'm tired of watching other teams pass and pass and run an offense and get easy shots and then we just go one on one and take shots with 18 secs on the clock without passing.

We can be an awesome team, we just have to play as a team and play smarter and more efficient. Having a pure PG would help.

[fixer26er]

My single biggest gripe with this team.

I rant on this every game, I thought I was the only one who sees this but I'm glad I'm not.

I have NEVER seen another nba team give up so many wide open three pointers on a consistant basis.

****ing PATHETIC

But they protected the paint didn't they? Thats all they care about.

[Spaceman Spiff]

One thing I noticed tonight is the Gilbert is selfish. Before you all blast me about being an Arenas hater, that I am not...I love Gil (no homo). But tonight it finally clicked. All that talk about how EJ said Gil is no leader, he was right. Even when Kobe knows his shot is off he passes. Possession after possession after possession Gil looked off Jarvis, Mason, Stevenson. All that kept popping in my head was "Quality Shots". He was taking fadeaway threes with hands in his face left and right. He needs to step it up. For us to consistently win, we need Gil to be a leader, not Antawn.

And don't think I'm a Kobe lover just because I reference that game a couple times. I can't stand him.

Spot on.

I saw him come down the court a few times and not even pass it. Just try to take someone 1 on 1 or just hike up fadeaway threes.

The same thing that makes Gil great also makes him bad.

[fixer26er]

I don't think it's a lack of talent. All our guys are athletic enough and have enough energy.

IMO, its coaching and a lack of effort...the two kinda go hand in hand.

It's like they're afraid to get out on the perimeter because they're afraid they'll get beat inside. So they stand around in ****ing no mans land between the low post and the perimeter waiting to collapse on anything in the low post. The ball gets kicked out past the three point line and they're stuck too far in to do anything about it.

Thats my best guess.

Eddie said their philosphy is to protect the paint or rim(I forget which it was) and that they pretty much let the opposition get what they could from the perimeter.

Thats their defensive philosphy, don't get beat in the paint and take your chances on the perimeter. Teams know that and attack our perimeter every single game.

[TakeTheFG]

gilbert doesn't make anyone better. caron butler's game is all 1 on 1 and its the quick jab step that he takes..

[Spaceman Spiff]

Eddie said their philosphy is to protect the paint or rim(I forget which it was) and that they pretty much let the opposition get what they could from the perimeter

****ing dumb. Thats all that is.

Any team is gonna knock those shots down. If I was prepping a team to play against the Wiz, I'd send cutters down low to draw the defense in and just hike 3's all day.

[fixer26er]

****ing dumb. Thats all that is.

Any team is gonna knock those shots down. If I was prepping a team to play against the Wiz, I'd send cutters down low to draw the defense in and just hike 3's all day.

Kind of like what you see every game. It's great if a team isn't hitting shots because it helps the fast break game, but if they are hitting it looks bad.

[hands11]

Well this Offense is built more around isolation and guys being able to create their own shot. Gil is more of a hybrid PG/SG. What we need is a guy like Larry Hughes to play the SG, a tall guy with handles who compliments Gil. In 04-05 our starting backcourt was giving us near 10 APG.

At full health it works because we have so many guys that can beat the Defense. But if even one guy is out it throws the whole thing off. I'd like to see our Offense at full 100% health(as in including Songaila as well).

I think that is a poor design for a team. It require both to be on board each game doing that and both to be healthy.

This is the same problem we have had forever.... It was a problem when Hughes was PG and its a problem with Gil as PG. They arent PGs.

Every offseason I hope we keep or get a PG.

Kidd scored a lot of points, but he played PG the whole game. He was always in charge of the offense and working his team in. He just know when to take over for a spurt and when to step in with pts.

Gil is shoot first. That is a SG.

We had B Knight. We had Blake. But we let our PGs go because they are hell bent on one of the leagues best SGs being a PG. It isnt him. He doesnt want to be a leader and a PG is always a leader.

[hands11]

****ing dumb. Thats all that is.

Any team is gonna knock those shots down. If I was prepping a team to play against the Wiz, I'd send cutters down low to draw the defense in and just hike 3's all day.


Kind of like every team that plays us does :D

[TakeTheFG]

this team is banking on the fact that they will simply continue to outrun teams in the playoffs which wont happen.

[hands11]

this team is banking on the fact that they will simply continue to outrun teams in the playoffs which wont happen.


Well, with Gil, CB and AJ together, they all share the ball so it moves more. It just then we don't have a post game. Then, if one gets hurt, we are out of sync. This is why I want a good PG and a back up PG. That adds balance and stability.

I want us to run an offense that involves passing before shooting. Something that works for open shots as a team.

[twenty-eight]

Jarvis Hayes had a good/great game tonight, he was RIPPED throughout this thread. He took some terrible shots and missed a few open shots. Jarvis also hits the boards well. It would be great if we could get some consistency out of him. lets see how he follows it up against the heat

[Spaceman Spiff]

But they protected the paint didn't they? Thats all they care about.

I hope you're being sarcastic.

****in dumbest defensive strategy I've ever heard of.

[909997]

I hope you're being sarcastic.

****in dumbest defensive strategy I've ever heard of.

lolz our strategy is to protect the paint and hope they miss the open 3:laugh:

[twenty-eight]

lolz our strategy is to protect the paint and hope they miss the open 3:laugh:

:laugh::laugh:




We should run the pick and roll more

[Spaceman Spiff]

I just hate the fact they don't even ****in try on defense.

Excuse me, they do try, they just protect the paint. :rolleyes:

[Mooka]

I don't think it's a lack of talent. All our guys are athletic enough and have enough energy.

IMO, its coaching and a lack of effort...the two kinda go hand in hand.

It's like they're afraid to get out on the perimeter because they're afraid they'll get beat inside. So they stand around in ****ing no mans land between the low post and the perimeter waiting to collapse on anything in the low post. The ball gets kicked out past the three point line and they're stuck too far in to do anything about it.

Thats my best guess. No, it's lack of defensive talent. Look at who we're starting out there tonight.

It is what it is. When you have guys like Gil and Jamison playing 40+mins a game, you're just not gonna be a good defensive team. (especially in our case when we have no Bigs that control the paint)

Obviously it doesn't mean we have to play the worst defense I've ever seen, but even if we played great team defense, we still would never be a good defensive team. There are too many weak links on D.

Gilbert NEVER has more than 5 assists. Point Guard. Shame. Gil averages 6 a game...

[Big C]

its sad that a guy who played 6 mins lead our team in assists

[hands11]

Jarvis Hayes had a good/great game tonight, he was RIPPED throughout this thread. He took some terrible shots and missed a few open shots. Jarvis also hits the boards well. It would be great if we could get some consistency out of him. lets see how he follows it up against the heat

well he has 20-30 games to prove he can get it done.

I guess with all his injuries its almost like he is a rookie or 2nd year player. He was out for most of 2 yrs. That's missing a lot of ball for a guy that hadnt already established his game to start with.

[ACW]

The one good thing about NJ winning is it gets them closer to topping the Heat for that 8th playoff spot-even better if we beat them tonight.

[Spaceman Spiff]

It is what it is. When you have guys like Gil and Jamison playing 40+mins a game, you're just not gonna be a good defensive team. (especially in our case when we have no Bigs that control the paint)



I think Jamison is a weak link, however he does get rebounds. As a man up defender, you're right, he's not that great.

Arenas has all the talent in the world. There's no reason why he couldn't be a shut down defender if he really wanted to be one.

[ACW]

Arenas has all the talent in the world. There's no reason why he couldn't be a shut down defender if he really wanted to be one. I'd like to see him play defense like Kidd did last night.

Is there any way to combine the offensive talents of Jamison with the length, athleticism and defensive talents of Blatche? Any mad scientists? :laugh:

[Chachie]

Gil averages 6 a game...

I should have checked my facts before I posted but I can't believe he averages that many assists per game. I cannot remember ever seeing post-game stats for him where he had that many. Wow.

[jbooma]

well he has 20-30 games to prove he can get it done.

I guess with all his injuries its almost like he is a rookie or 2nd year player. He was out for most of 2 yrs. That's missing a lot of ball for a guy that hadnt already established his game to start with.

Good post, I do agree but he has to still be playing a little better. He can't just fall off that much??

Gilbert needs to learn to stop forcing his shot, if he is not on, then drive, how many 3's did he miss??