View Full Version : Denver Post: Bly's agent doesn't exactly squash rumor
Manasseh
March-7th-2007, 04:55 PM
Found this article posted this afternoon in the Denver Post:
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_5375358
Bly's agent doesn't exactly squash the rumor that Bly wants to come to the Redskins. Here's the primary quote:
"I have had nothing but positive dialogue with Mike Shanahan and Ted Sundquist about Dre. Dre understands that it is a compliment to be wanted. Neither Dre nor myself have said publicly that he is disenchanted. I understand why certain teams only allow the head coach to speak publicly. If Dre is so miserable or unhappy it hasn't been publicly said by Dre or myself. "
So let's see if we can translate. They haven't said anything publicly - although they may be talking a lot off the record. Denver only allows head coaches to speak publicly, or else they may have already said something publicly. Notice he doesn't say Dre isn't miserable or unhappy. He just said it hasn't been said publicly.
SEANTAYLOR=HITMAN
March-7th-2007, 04:58 PM
i still say bly is coming to washington
WorldBFree76
March-7th-2007, 05:01 PM
Damnit, I just want to know why the Skins FO is in love with Bly.
I just don't see it...
Oldskool
March-7th-2007, 05:03 PM
Agent speak: "I have had nothing but positive dialogue with Mike Shanahan and Ted Sundquist about Dre. Dre understands that it is a compliment to be wanted. Neither Dre nor myself have said publicly that he is disenchanted. I understand why certain teams only allow the head coach to speak publicly. If Dre is so miserable or unhappy it hasn't been publicly said by Dre or myself. "
Internet speak : "LOL hey STFU gusy we arnt unhappy. Denver jus needs 2 pay us, k?"
AKM311
March-7th-2007, 05:03 PM
Damnit, I just want to know why the Skins FO is in love with Bly.
I just don't see it...
Because he is a playmaker and we don't have one on our team. He causes turnovers and he is above average in coverage. Him and Smoot can cover the fast WRs and Rogers can cover the aggresive ones.
Springs is good to, better than Bly, but the business part comes in there as well as injury concerns.
Sekhmet187
March-7th-2007, 05:04 PM
Bly can also tackle and hits pretty hard for a CB. Hes cause quite a few fumbles each year in his career, another thing the Redskins lack.
ThePreciating
March-7th-2007, 05:05 PM
I wish youtube had clips, because on ESPN I have seen some NASTY dre bly clips. You gotta realize, he's not getting thrown at 90% of the time on the Lions.
AKM311
March-7th-2007, 05:05 PM
Bly can also tackle and hits pretty hard for a CB. Hes cause quite a few fumbles each year in his career, another thing the Redskins lack.
He actually is a pretty poor tackler. But he is good at causing strips which is why he is great at creating turnovers. Kind of the way Sean Taylor does.
SkinsNoles21
March-7th-2007, 05:07 PM
as long as we dont give up Betts, get bly, swap first rounders, and pick up two picks I am satisfied with this.
Then we move Springs, to denver even, and pick up two more picks.
Then we trade our first rounder and another pick or two and move up to get Akoye.
So in the end we get:
Bly, Akoye, plus two extra picks.
Ill take that allll day.
Smoot Point Really
March-7th-2007, 05:09 PM
Damnit, I just want to know why the Skins FO is in love with Bly.
I just don't see it...
Perhaps because we'd be giving up a #6 pick and getting Bly and picks in return. We picked Carlos at 9? Bly is better than Carlos "right now"... This makes sense for us. We can't expect to find a player as good as Bly at the #6 (for next year), and we may land pretty young depth (or even starters) in the draft.
I'm not infatuated with Bly, but the Redskins would have to be stupid not to make this deal. Of course, there might be benefits to making this trade on draft day when you are on the clock... you might be able to jack up the value of the pick even more.
Ernie5
March-7th-2007, 05:10 PM
Damnit, I just want to know why the Skins FO is in love with Bly.
I don't know that they're in love with Bly. They like him & they should; he's good. With Springs either fragile or on his way out, this move would be smart. I don't think you have to be in love with a player to make a deal for him or even give him a contract extension.
jrfriedm
March-7th-2007, 05:13 PM
If we were smart we wouldn't go anywhere near this guy. He's only looking for a pay day.
0mega
March-7th-2007, 05:16 PM
as long as we dont give up Betts, get bly, swap first rounders, and pick up two picks I am satisfied with this.
Then we move Springs, to denver even, and pick up two more picks.
Then we trade our first rounder and another pick or two and move up to get Akoye.
So in the end we get:
Bly, Akoye, plus two extra picks.
Ill take that allll day.
Will you please explain to me why we would trade Betts to Denver when they JUST signed Travis Henry?
thinker
March-7th-2007, 05:20 PM
Clearly if Denver gave Bly a phat contract he'd be happy. Denver wants to see him play for a year. Makes sense. It didn't work out at all for us when we gave Lloyd a new contract when he still had a year left.
HEavyJumbo85
March-7th-2007, 05:22 PM
as long as we dont give up Betts, get bly, swap first rounders, and pick up two picks I am satisfied with this.
Then we move Springs, to denver even, and pick up two more picks.
Then we trade our first rounder and another pick or two and move up to get Akoye.
So in the end we get:
Bly, Akoye, plus two extra picks.
Ill take that allll day.
yeah that's my felling as well. especially if we do get okoye then it's a steal. I don't know about moving Springs to Denver though, because they won't have any picks left if they make the Bly deal. I'm sure we could find another trade partner for Shawn.
ZoEd
March-7th-2007, 05:24 PM
Just spoke to a buddy of mine who lives in Colorado Springs and he says it's all over talk radio that a Betts/Bly trade is in the works. I told him that rumor was circulating here a few days ago but was shut down. Here's hoping we're right and the Denver fans are wrong.
TdD12fox
March-7th-2007, 05:30 PM
Clearly if Denver gave Bly a phat contract he'd be happy. Denver wants to see him play for a year. Makes sense. It didn't work out at all for us when we gave Lloyd a new contract when he still had a year left.
Yea, except that we can see how good Bly is from all of his years in the league. Granted, giving Lloyd that big contract while still unproven was a bad idea...so far...but giving an extension to Bly now wouldn't be the same thing.
REDMAN7
March-7th-2007, 05:32 PM
I'm monitoring Bly's website message board...the Denver fans are lobbying him hard.
http://drebly32.com/phpbb2/viewforum.php?f=2&sid=6004117dc590051ffc0c3ebd3be4b16b
:dallasuck
Midnight Judges
March-7th-2007, 05:33 PM
Just spoke to a buddy of mine who lives in Colorado Springs and he says it's all over talk radio that a Betts/Bly trade is in the works. I told him that rumor was circulating here a few days ago but was shut down. Here's hoping we're right and the Denver fans are wrong.
I thought they signed Travis Henry, what would they need Betts for at this point?
bedlamVR
March-7th-2007, 05:37 PM
Okay what I think in Bly is still using the skins as a leverage tool. Rumours are exactly that and 90% of the time amount to nothing but I would not be supprised if at least some of these things are not comming from Blys camp. I still don't see how a team can give up two starters and a draft pick for a player in the last year of his contract and not have plans to extend him.
As for Springs and the Bly talk I do not see them related. I see the Springs situation being more of a continuation of what Gibbs said in the offseason of having Springs move to safety and right now Springs money is a medium priced starting CB but extremly hight for a saftey. Now moving springs to safety may add years to his career as it did with Troy Vincent but does nothing for the anual take home pay so while both sides agree this might be for the best Springs says well I can still play CB at least for this year and I still have money owed on my contract. The FO takes the contry oppinion.
The point is with Smoot on board and Springs and Rogers all playing CB it would hamper Carlos to bench him now and when the defence played well so did Rogers. That meens there would be log jam at the CB slot and we would find ourselves again top heavy making a non essential trade.
ZoEd
March-7th-2007, 05:37 PM
I thought they signed Travis Henry, what would they need Betts for at this point?
That's what I said but you know Denver likes the 1-2 punch. Who knows what they're up to but I don't think Betts is even a possibility.
1. He just signed a team friendly 5yr contract
2. I think Gibbs is all giddy about the Portis/Betts tandem.
TdD12fox
March-7th-2007, 05:38 PM
I want this trade to go down sooo badly....On the Broncos message board, all of their fans are calling this trade a horrible idea for them...i want to let them know how it feels
CooleyNaMean
March-7th-2007, 05:40 PM
I'm monitoring Bly's website message board...the Denver fans are lobbying him hard.
http://drebly32.com/phpbb2/viewforum.php?f=2&sid=6004117dc590051ffc0c3ebd3be4b16b
:dallasuck
That's cool Bly actually posts on there
chaz13
March-7th-2007, 05:44 PM
I don't think we are in love w/ Bly, but moreso the draft picks in the deal. Plus we can get a similar corner in talent to Springs, that is 2 years younger w/o the injury history. What's not to like about that.
TGibson810
March-7th-2007, 05:49 PM
That's what I said but you know Denver likes the 1-2 punch. Who knows what they're up to but I don't think Betts is even a possibility.
1. He just signed a team friendly 5yr contract
2. I think Gibbs is all giddy about the Portis/Betts tandem.
The Broncos can forget about Betts, but they can have Springs and our 1st, for Bly and their 1st 2nd 4th and 5th
FunBunch7
March-7th-2007, 05:50 PM
I want depth at corner like the next guy and Dre Bly would probably start for us which would make CR our 3rd corner assuming that Springs is not here...
But...
I just wonder if we really want a T.O. -type player that has a contract then tries to force his hand into being traded or released...That whole fre agency thing where T.O. agent supposedly didn't submit the papers for free agency then T.O. gets trade to Baltimore but then goes to probate over it and then forces a trade to Philly or whatever...
I'm glad Bly wants to come here...I'm just not sure this is the best fit. Bly should have told Detroit he wanted to come here then maybe there would have been talks to where both the Lioans and Redskins could work something out.
Dana87
March-7th-2007, 05:56 PM
Damnit, I just want to know why the Skins FO is in love with Bly.
I just don't see it...
I don't think it's a matter of being in love with Bly, They are probably looking to trade down and Bly is what the Broncos are trying to entice us with because they know we probably don't want to trade all the way down to 21. So they are trying to sweeten the pot with someone they knew we were trying to get from Detroit. But make no mistake this deal is about the 6th pick for a package of picks, not Bly.
skinfan31
March-7th-2007, 05:57 PM
I really don't think Gibbs will trade Betts. He is what I consider a "core player". Sure Denver would want him. They love running backs (But don't forget so does Gibbs). I would look good in that system.
If a trade does go through, I think it will involve picks. Having the 6th pick is huge. I'm not sure what holes they have other than corner and qb. But at 6 if they wanted another back so bad they could get Lynch.
Rb is the one position on the team that I love our depth.
REDMAN7
March-7th-2007, 05:57 PM
That's cool Bly actually posts on there
Exactly. I'm hoping he cannot resist and makes a post.
thinker
March-7th-2007, 06:09 PM
Yea, except that we can see how good Bly is from all of his years in the league. Granted, giving Lloyd that big contract while still unproven was a bad idea...so far...but giving an extension to Bly now wouldn't be the same thing.
WE have to give him an extension so that he will agitate to make it happen. The reason to not ordinarily give an extension when there is still time left on the contract is so that the player bears the risk of injury. Of course there is also the risk to the team of the player getting away for nothing the next year. That's why extensions are more often done a little later in the year. There is all of the OTAs, Mini-camp, training camp, pre-season to get hurt. After the guy gets through all of that and shows that he fits in you give him an extension mid season. Then the team assumes the risk of injury so the player will take less to get the money now.
Denver also doesn't want to give Bly an extension just yet because they need their cap room to sign - let's say Daniel Graham etc. They would almost certainly be prepared to talk extension later on. Remeber that they want to trade up in the draft as well. Getting the #6 pick or higher also requires cap room. Denver now, likely sees this as a pain in the butt and if Bly can help them get our #6 pick and they can find another acceptable cb - then the trade makes sense for them.
clietas
March-7th-2007, 06:14 PM
first off denver fans are the whiniest SOB's ive ever been around! i moved out here in 2000 from D.C. area and damed if they dont run guys out of here as fast as possible. that being said i hope they run bly right outa here and back home to D.C. ( guess hes from Peake so close enough) just hope all the trade betts stuff is B.S. (which i imagine it is).i guess the point of this post would be that if we can seriously get bly a 1st, 2nd and third for our first, why not? yeah we need a DL but theres no garantee that we can get a julius peppers type in the draft at #6. why not at least get some depth at corner especially since rogers cant seem to catch anything, and i dont just mean last year. that playoff game against seattle just think back im sure most of u remember!
so why not get a decent corner and add some depth? Still most of you are probly right that bly is just an overrated pre-madonna, but who isnt! except maybe santana he's hust funny. sorry for the rant but these trade rumors are just to good. oh and does anyone know the the broncos have such a HO for trade with the skins? i dont think is cause our FO is a bunch of jokers, but i know many of u do so save those responses for another time.:dallasuck:eaglesuck:gaintsuck:cheers:
Smurf85
March-7th-2007, 06:20 PM
Because he is a playmaker and we don't have one on our team. He causes turnovers and he is above average in coverage. Him and Smoot can cover the fast WRs and Rogers can cover the aggresive ones.
Springs is good to, better than Bly, but the business part comes in there as well as injury concerns.
Not to mention he comes with more draft picks.;)
TGibson810
March-7th-2007, 06:20 PM
first off denver fans are the whiniest SOB's ive ever been around! i moved out here in 2000 from D.C. area and damed if they dont run guys out of here as fast as possible. that being said i hope they run bly right outa here and back home to D.C. ( guess hes from Peake so close enough) just hope all the trade betts stuff is B.S. (which i imagine it is).i guess the point of this post would be that if we can seriously get bly a 1st, 2nd and third for our first, why not? yeah we need a DL but theres no garantee that we can get a julius peppers type in the draft at #6. why not at least get some depth at corner especially since rogers cant seem to catch anything, and i dont just mean last year. that playoff game against seattle just think back im sure most of u remember!
so why not get a decent corner and add some depth? Still most of you are probly right that bly is just an overrated pre-madonna, but who isnt! except maybe santana he's hust funny. sorry for the rant but these trade rumors are just to good. oh and does anyone know the the broncos have such a HO for trade with the skins? i dont think is cause our FO is a bunch of jokers, but i know many of u do so save those responses for another time.:dallasuck:eaglesuck:gaintsuck:cheers:
Just curious, is saying Bly is a Pre-Madonna does that mean he's older and born in the 70's? or hes a Prima Donna like TO, haha, jk ;)
0mega
March-7th-2007, 06:22 PM
I want depth at corner like the next guy and Dre Bly would probably start for us which would make CR our 3rd corner assuming that Springs is not here...
But...
I just wonder if we really want a T.O. -type player that has a contract then tries to force his hand into being traded or released...That whole fre agency thing where T.O. agent supposedly didn't submit the papers for free agency then T.O. gets trade to Baltimore but then goes to probate over it and then forces a trade to Philly or whatever...
I'm glad Bly wants to come here...I'm just not sure this is the best fit. Bly should have told Detroit he wanted to come here then maybe there would have been talks to where both the Lioans and Redskins could work something out.
Not sure how you're drawing the comparison there.
The NFL is a business, and every player that wants a new deal (atleast what - 30% of the league at any given time) is not a "T.O."
fdarugar
March-7th-2007, 06:23 PM
Just curious, is saying Bly is a Pre-Madonna does that mean he's older and born in the 70's? or hes a Prima Donna like TO, haha, jk ;)
DAGGER!
PorkSkins
March-7th-2007, 06:24 PM
I can see him wanting to play here with the Skins because he will have a chance to be the No.1 CB and most of all, he will be closer to home.
clietas
March-7th-2007, 06:26 PM
so thats your respnse man a typo! LAME!
TGibson810
March-7th-2007, 06:31 PM
Kinda Random....
I Love it!! The NFL has really turned into a 12 Month media covered sport.
January - Playoffs
February - Super Bowl/Pro Bowl
March - Start of Free Agency
April - Draft
May - Start of Mini-Camps (Mostly Rookies)
June - Rest of Mini-Camps (Entire Team)
July - REAL Training Camps
August - Pre-Season Games
September - December --- Regular Season
Anyone else think that this has FAR surpassed baseball as America's Sport.. Now baseball may be America's Pasttime, but this is America's Game!!!
tr1
March-7th-2007, 06:38 PM
Me thinks we'll be seeing more of him...
http://www.nfl.com/u/nfl/photos/nfl1adb_lower.jpg
http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/35/356563.jpg
http://www.detroitlions.com/photos/Bly_Body_060515.jpg
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/images/football/nfl/players/4690.jpg
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/football/nfl/03/02/bc.fbn.lions.trades.ap/p1_bly.jpg
Veretax
March-7th-2007, 06:42 PM
Its all a rouse... All Saunders got a wif of Calvin Johnson at the Combine and is really secretly finding a way to trade up and get him ;)
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