Czaban has lost his mind.

[ktball74]

He was just babbling about how the Skins should draft Bady Quinn if he falls to 6. My jaw dropped when I heard this. What is he thinking? He's comparing Quinn to Leinhart, and saying Peyton didn't win in the big games in college, so this shouldn't be held against Quinn.

[skinsandgibbsfan]

We wouldn't take Brady Quinn unless he was there with our 7th round pick.

[ktball74]

He's supposed to be a knowledgable sports guy, and he says this.

[skinsandgibbsfan]

I could see us trading down to a team that needs a QB but never would we take Quinn.
Campbell > Quinn

[Lead Blocker]

Self-abuse has never been a good idea.

Save yourself... turn the station, play a CD, or somethin'

[Lead Blocker]

He's supposed to be a knowledgable sports guy, and he says this.

Flag on the post: Unnecessary use of the word Knowledgeable.

15 adjective penalty marked from the spot of the description.

[RFKFedEx]

If we knew someone else really wanted Quinn and was willing to pull the Ditka of '99 to get him, we could take him at #6 and then move him to obtain more picks.

However, our FO isn't smart enough to outfox another franchise's. If anything, it would be the other way around. Thank God we don't need a QB.

[Om]

My guess is if you talked to Steve over a beer in the family room watching a game, he'd tell you something far different. When he's on the air, he's a peformer looking to create buzz for his show, not an objective analyst with some limited inside knowledge looking to give you a reasoned take. It's sports talk radio, guys. :)

[bobzmuda]

My guess is if you talked to Steve over a beer in the family room watching a game, he'd tell you something far different. When he's on the air, he's a peformer looking to create buzz for his show, not an objective analyst with some limited inside knowledge looking to give you a reasoned take. It's sports talk radio, guys. :)

Om's got it.

These guys don't get paid for moderate, informed viewpoints. They get paid to drum up readers/listeners/viewers. And what better way to do it than to whip up their readers/listeners/viewers into a frenzy.

Think AJSkins. :cool:

[bubba9497]

My guess is if you talked to Steve over a beer in the family room watching a game, he'd tell you something far different. When he's on the air, he's a peformer looking to create buzz for his show, not an objective analyst with some limited inside knowledge looking to give you a reasoned take. It's sports talk radio, guys. :)


nah, I'd bet he's a putz on & off the air

[Taylor 36]

Since when does anyone really care what Czaban has to say?

[Riggo#44]

Save yourself... turn the station, play a CD, or somethin'

There are many things more useful and significantly less painful to do - such as punching yourself in the balls.

[TankRizzo]

The only reason I could see drafting him would be to hold him for ransom and trade him, but that's way too big of a risk.

[Fifty Gut]

yeah, I turned his show off the other day when he said that. he just says **** to piss off Redskin fans and therefore can't be a real fan himself.

[WorldBFree76]

He always looks to stir things up so I'm not surprised.

[CooleyKnight]

My guess is if you talked to Steve over a beer in the family room watching a game, he'd tell you something far different. When he's on the air, he's a peformer looking to create buzz for his show, not an objective analyst with some limited inside knowledge looking to give you a reasoned take. It's sports talk radio, guys. :)

he has thus succeeded at creating a buzz.

[RFKFedEx]

It cracks me up when you homers get your panties all bunched up over Czaban.

Switch it over to Mike-n-Mike on Tripple static. They can tell you all about Yankee spring training.

No one can talk Warshington sports like Riggo in the afternoons.

[nightbird]

Yeah steve gets paid to be bombastic without being too over the top. And there is a theory most people subscribe to that you don't reach or draft for need until the later rounds. At the top of the draft you have to take the best player no matter what.

If he was actually the GM and had to pull the trigger on that deal, I'm thinking there's no way.

Did anyone catch what he said a few minutes after that. The Redskins have not gone into back to back seasons with the same starting kicker on opening day since 1994!

We've been shuffling kickers for THIRTEEN freakin years without finding someone who's any good???

[SkinsFTW]

He may be right though. Campbell hasn't impressed that much yet. If Quinn is as good as a lot of people say then it might be a mistake to let him pass. I guess we will see though because I don't see us picking him even if he is there.

[Skins n' Bones]

Did anyone catch what he said a few minutes after that. The Redskins have not gone into back to back seasons with the same starting kicker on opening day since 1994!

We've been shuffling kickers for THIRTEEN freakin years without finding someone who's any good???

That is totally untrue. He hasn't lasted a full season since his first one here, but Hall has been our opening day starting kicker since 2003. Plus we stuck with Conway for a few years I believe.
Maybe he meant the same kicker that finished the previous season?

[surfgoon21]

He did outline even crazier things the Redskins have done as far as drafting. Are some of you the same ones saying take C. Johnson if HE falls to 6? :rolleyes:

I personally do neither and trade down for more picks.

[Skins n' Bones]

If Quinn is there at #6, we'll at least try to make other teams believe that we'll take him to force a trade. But I can't see the Skins taking him even if a trade down can't be made.

[RFKFedEx]

Quinn is not worth the risk of drafting if we don't intend to immediately move him in this years draft.

Give JC another year and if he still spotty, then draft a QB.

It could be like a Rivers motivating Breese situation in SD a few years back. Surely there will be another can't miss diamond of a QB in the first round next year.

Czabe is only stirring the pot.

[kramdizzle]

I think that Quinn WILL BE better then Cambell over the course of his career. However Cambell has more expirence at the pro level. Personally if i was playing Madden I would do it, but in the real world, with as much money and time that we ahve invested, not to mention draft picks i wouldnt do it.

[redman]

I think that Quinn WILL BE better then Cambell over the course of his career. However Cambell has more expirence at the pro level. Personally if i was playing Madden I would do it, but in the real world, with as much money and time that we ahve invested, not to mention draft picks i wouldnt do it.

I don't think there's any reason to believe Quinn will be better than Campbell. They both exceeded the critical 35-start threshhold in college (which is a tipping point for pro success), but Campbell faced the best defenses in college for years, rarely with a week off, while Quinn got games against Navy.

We've also already seen a little of what Campbell can do at the NFL level, and we noted that the game does not at all look bigger than him. The college game at times looked too fast for Quinn against certain competition.

I struggle with whether or not this is a homer view of mine, but I think Campbell's potential tops out around Carson Palmer range. I really do. We could have a stud on our hands.

Quinn I think will be good given his ideal college pedigree other than for the reasons stated, but I bristle at peoples' tendency to underestimate Campbell who I think has everything we could want in a QB entering his third season, and his first as the established starter.

[tizzod]

while Quinn got games against Navy.



Hey, Navy's been pretty good these past few years!

But on the topic, whether Czaban is paid to say outrageous stuff or not, that idea is just flat-out stupid and I can't imagine why he would allow it to come out of his mouth. It just makes him look like an idiot. At least say something that might make people want to continue to listen to you.

[TheDane]

When I read the title "Czaban has lost his mind," I thought for sure this was going to be another one of those Top 10 List of Things That Happened Forever Ago.

[Brandon Lloyd Christmas]

i heard this this morning as well, pretty stupid of him. i cant tell if hes just trying to create a buzz or if hes just being dumb. to not even give campbell a full season because brady quinn can bench press a lot is pretty damn stupid.

[SnyderMustGo]

Propositions:
1. Jason Campbell is not a sure thing.
2. Brady Quinn is a much higher rated prospect coming out of college than Campbell was.
3. Brady can sit as insurance behind Campbell. If Campbell turns out to be good, you would have immense trade value in Brady that would put all the Shaub talk to shame.

It's not a ludicrous idea.

Jason Campbell did some things that looked nice. But he had some glaring mechanical problems and very questionable accuracy. He can certainly fix that. But its not a certain. Campbell is not the best looking young quarterback out there. Nor is he the worst. He just need to fix things. There are certainly quarterback prospects in this league's history who could never fix the errors they had. Quincy Carter for the Cowboys looked good early, but he never could get his accuracy or his mechanics fixed.

I like Campbell and hope he turns out. But banking on hope is risky. Hedging our bet with Brady seems win-win. Either Campbell works out and you have an extremely valuable commodity in Brady, or Campbell fails, and you have someone to turn to. As far as the argument that it mess with JC's psyche to bring Brady in, I'm always of the opinion that if you can screw up a guy's psyche that easy, then he should never have been the choice to begin with. You need QBs with nerves of steel to win the Super Bowl.


All that being said, I wouldn't do it. But its not completely ludicrous.

[waterwagen]

He's supposed to be a knowledgable sports guy, and he says this.He is? I thought he was a guy with a microphone who's job is to give edgy opinions to keep the ratings up. :)

[Fat Stupid Loser]

He may be right though. Campbell hasn't impressed that much yet. If Quinn is as good as a lot of people say then it might be a mistake to let him pass. I guess we will see though because I don't see us picking him even if he is there.


Yep.

Noone but hopeful Skins fans think our QB problem is solved. We need a QB. JC hasn't shown me much to think otherwise yet. Maybe he will. It would be tough to pass Quinn up. Without significantly improved QB play we won't win many games again. JC has one year I guess. Hope he proves me wrong.

[DiscoBob]

I don’t want Quinn, but it wouldn’t bother me a bit if the teams below us in the draft thought it was a real possibility…..

[tizzod]

Propositions:
1. Jason Campbell is not a sure thing.
2. Brady Quinn is a much higher rated prospect coming out of college than Campbell was.
3. Brady can sit as insurance behind Campbell.

1. Neither is Quinn.
2. So? I imagine Ryan Leaf was too.
3. So you would pay #6 money to Quinn to have him sit behind Campbell, who will be starting his first FULL season with the team, with the thought that Campbell might NOT work out. Who's to say Quinn will? You don't blow #6 money and potential on something like that. That's insane.


It's not a ludicrous idea.

Yes, it is.


banking on hope is risky.

Yep, which is what you are doing with every draft pick. From #1 on down. Can't do anything about it.

[Smoot Point Really]

I tend to like Czabe for his humor... not his knowledge.

[playboy1972]

First, I think Jason Campbell could be a good quarterback in this league. His delivery is a little slow for me and his deep passes seem to float a little but overall, I think he will be very good. BUT...............................fast forward two years from now when Joe, Gregg, Al, and Bugel are gone.If Brady Quinn becomes what people think, we will all be saying what we are saying about Carlos Rogers and Shawn Merriman. We needed a corner and our linebackers were stable. So I will say what I have been saying. If you truly believe Brady is a franchise QB either pick him or trade him. But Do Not Pass On Him.

[redskinsforlife]

He was just babbling about how the Skins should draft Bady Quinn if he falls to 6. My jaw dropped when I heard this. What is he thinking? He's comparing Quinn to Leinhart, and saying Peyton didn't win in the big games in college, so this shouldn't be held against Quinn.

Oh no, why would ever draft Brady Quinn when we have the prw bowl skills of the almighty Jason Campbell!! Psh, people on here are just pure humor.

[je21]

Czaban just needs to keep his mouth shut. He has almost all of you talking about this BS. You all know were drafting DL with the sixth pick.

[bubba9497]

:laugh:

so we should draft Quinn because Campbell is not a sure thing, like drafting another unproven rookie QB is the answer....

:doh: and people want to criticize our fo for making stupid moves

[PA Skin Fan]

There are many things more useful and significantly less painful to do - such as punching yourself in the balls.

LMAO!!!!

:notworthy :applause: :cheers: :laugh:

[iceman330]

Czaban's an idiot who never played ball. Don't listen to him.

[SnyderMustGo]

To all the people who are certain this is a stupid idea.

In 1989, the Dallas Cowboys had selected Troy Aikman in the first round.
Even though they had Troy, the team also draft Steve Walsh in the first round of the supplemental draft, costing them a first round pick.

The Cowboys hedged their bets.

After Aikman proved to be the answer, the Cowboys then traded Steve Walsh to the Saints for three high draft picks: the Saints no.1 and no.3 in 1991, and the Saints no. 1 in 1992. Incidentally, those draft picks ended up being: Alvin Harper, Erik Williams, and Darren Woodson.
_________

Anyone who has anything more than hope with Jason Campbell is kidding themselves. He is a 50/50 guy right now. He has done some nice things, but he has a lot of things he must improve on to stay in the league. He is a giant question mark.

It does make sense to hedge our bets with him. The franchise centers around the qb. Campbell may be the guy. Or he may not. Quinn may be the guy. Or he may not. But you have to keep trying you find the guy for sure. If we draft Quinn and he doesn't work out for us, he will still have trade value. If we draft Branch and he turns out to be a big turd, he will have no trade value. Drafting Quinn is a low risk move that actually diminishes the risk of JC.

Again, I wouldn't do it, but it is a rather clever idea. And it could reap us big rewards like it did for the Cowboys.

[NewCliche21]

He was just babbling about how the Skins should draft Bady Quinn if he falls to 6. My jaw dropped when I heard this. What is he thinking? He's comparing Quinn to Leinhart, and saying Peyton didn't win in the big games in college, so this shouldn't be held against Quinn.

And nothing's changed. It took him 10 years to win the big one.

[Monk4theHall81]

Steve Czaban is an idiot, point blank. I cant stand that guy

[Boozie3000]

nah, I'd bet he's a putz on & off the air
I'm with Bubba, sorry OM

[Brandon Lloyd Christmas]

it would be stupid to draft quinn, because what if he is a bust too? theres no certain picks in the NFL draft, so drafting a risky insurance policy isnt a great idea. especially when we have so many problems on defense, we dont even have the luxary of taking such a gamble.

[Riggo#44]

it would be stupid to draft quinn, because what if he is a bust too? theres no certain picks in the NFL draft, so drafting a risky insurance policy isnt a great idea. especially when we have so many problems on defense, we dont even have the luxary of taking such a gamble.

Not even CJ?!?! No - say it ain't so!!

[Walking Deadman]

He was just babbling about how the Skins should draft Bady Quinn if he falls to 6. My jaw dropped when I heard this. What is he thinking? He's comparing Quinn to Leinhart, and saying Peyton didn't win in the big games in college, so this shouldn't be held against Quinn.

*Yawn*
I'm suprised Czabe didn't suggest giving up the #6 for Eli Manning.
Don't treat his show like Bram's or John Thompson.....it's entertainment (or "What the hell is he thinking") type of show.

And remember Czabe usually sucks at fantasy football, so why listen to his choices?

[cphil006]

Czaben has been very poor this past season. He has been an idiot in his articles. He is understandably trying to break through to the next echelon of journalism and his method of bashing people or saying something outlandish is just not working.

He's stuck at the bottom..