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TaylorPickSix
March-27th-2007, 10:40 PM
We got a guy named Sean Taylor at #5.

I say keep the pick, don't trade it to Chicago, don't trade down, keep it and draft a stud, preferably one named Gaines Adams, to help out this defense.

Hitman#21
March-27th-2007, 10:44 PM
We almost picked kellen winslow. good we passed up on him and got cooley.

mojobo
March-27th-2007, 10:45 PM
remember the guy who was taken with the 6th pick in that draft (kellen winslow)?

jayneal7
March-27th-2007, 10:46 PM
We need DL HAMBURGER!!! Keep the pick. LB's NEVER go this high for a reason...they're not as important as DL.

Was Kenard Lang really the last DL we drafted in the 1st rd???! No wonder we've been such weenies in the trenches...

DP Redskin
March-27th-2007, 10:48 PM
Yea! That was a good pick. I think if we got Adams that would be good. By me living in NC and him playing for clemson I saw a lot of him and he is GOOD.

sean"Hitman"taylor
March-27th-2007, 10:53 PM
I love sean taylor...if we can get an young guy like tht I say....draft him...so when skins are stupid enough to let go of cooley and taylor I hve a person to cheer after

ChampSkinsFanatic
March-27th-2007, 10:56 PM
We picked up some good players drafting this high, too bad we didnt know how to keep some of them like Champ Bailey. I still think Lavar never got his chance to live up to his potential and we're on the verge of letting Steve Jackson RUIN Sean Taylor, but anyway

Alan Branch > Gaines Adams, for us anyway.

Since we're remembering, remember last time we drafted a player in the 1st round from Clemson?:point2sky

Alot of you guys had a problem with him but I still think him and Santana Moss would have been a great tandem.

TaylorPickSix
March-27th-2007, 10:56 PM
seriously, if our front office EVER let cooley go to a new team, i would have to root for him. it would break my heart, but he is the man. same with taylor.
we should be spending our money on our own damn players instead of someone elses!

TGibson810
March-27th-2007, 11:11 PM
Cooley is a Redskin, The same way Darrell Green was a Redskin, the way Joe Jacoby was a Redskin. He's not going anywhere, not Taylor on the other hand, I can see him going, not that I want that at all, but when his contracts come up they are going to over analyze him with the spitting and other off-field issues instead of saying that the man hasn't missed a step ON the field. Our FO seems to forget that we KEPT guys like Dexter Manley, I know that Free Agency is completely different now, but even still, we NEED to keep our studs, Campbell, Moss, Cooley, Samuels, Jansen, Thomas, Washington and Taylor. I wish we had more than TWO indespensable defenders but I don't think so, IMHO..

Hitman#21
March-27th-2007, 11:19 PM
Its not like Winslow sucks . . .
Oh dont misunderstand me man i never said winslow is bad you remember he missed his rookie yr the motorcycle accident remember 2 yrs ago he missed half the yr, last yr he had a good yr, now there saying this yr he may miss some time.

ImmortalDragon
March-27th-2007, 11:22 PM
Sean Taylor + Cooley is probably better than Winslow + 3rd round safety (the 3rd round safeties are no names)

I hope we keep the 6th overall pick though, I believe we need Briggs so much that we would give up 25 draft spots.

SAli457180
March-27th-2007, 11:25 PM
The Skins need to keep this pick and get the best DL they can get. Briggs is not the answer. The guy just wants to get paid because he's coming off a contract year. Instead of learning from their mistakes, this team just repeats them.

Seabee1973
March-27th-2007, 11:33 PM
remember the guy who was taken with the 6th pick in that draft (kellen winslow)?

A lot of people had him going 1 or 2 and some said he was the best player in the draft

My theary was he was going from 6-10 and was the best player named after his DAD

ChampSkinsFanatic
March-28th-2007, 02:07 AM
We almost picked kellen winslow. good we passed up on him and got cooley.

I would have lost my mind if we would have picked Winslow over Taylor. I would like Alan Branch over Gaines Adams but if it happened the other way around I wouldnt be mad.

909997
March-28th-2007, 02:10 AM
we need to pick up a pure pass rusher screw run defense

when u have 19 sacks a season ur defense just sucks period

SavageForce21
March-28th-2007, 02:16 AM
We got a guy named Sean Taylor at #5.

I say keep the pick, don't trade it to Chicago, don't trade down, keep it and draft a stud, preferably one named Gaines Adams, to help out this defense.

Yeah, well there's nobody in this draft like Sean Taylor.

It's always hard to say what the turnout will be. I'm worried that Adams will be too undersized against the run for us when we already have Carter at DE who's weak against the run.

ChampSkinsFanatic
March-28th-2007, 02:18 AM
we need to pick up a pure pass rusher screw run defense

when u have 19 sacks a season ur defense just sucks period

I say a run stuffer like Alan Branch, because he can command double teams because of his size which can give Andre Carter or Daniels a chance to put pressure on and hopefully get sacks.

SavageForce21
March-28th-2007, 02:20 AM
we need to pick up a pure pass rusher screw run defense

when u have 19 sacks a season ur defense just sucks period

If you say screw run defense then your defense will get steamrolled regardless of how well you rush the passer. Good defense ALWAYS starts with stopping the run.

skinsmania123
March-28th-2007, 04:36 AM
NO...we purposively did not pick Winslow. He came for a visit. Something made Gibb's pass him up..so that is not true. I say keep the #6 pick too!!

[[ghost]]
March-28th-2007, 05:10 AM
Sean Taylor was the most promising pick in the draft in many years. He was THE prototype for all Safeties. I can't remember the last time the NFL Draft included a DB that was just monstrous. Essentially, he was the Calvin Johnson of that years draft.

Using that logic, we should draft Calvin Johnson, since there is no ONE DE that is an absolute guarantee. Don't get me wrong, I am in NO way hopping on the CJ Bandwagon (check sig), but he is after all the CLOSEST thing to the guaranteed sure thing.

Chump Bailey
March-28th-2007, 05:34 AM
We got a guy named Sean Taylor at #5.

I say keep the pick, don't trade it to Chicago, don't trade down, keep it and draft a stud, preferably one named Gaines Adams, to help out this defense.


I agree, though I would not choose Adams. Stay at #6 and take Okoye, Branch or Anderson.:2cents:

I would think about a trade down though if it could put us into the mid teens first round and land a high second round pick too.

Veretax
March-28th-2007, 08:25 AM
I agree, if we cannot find some way to weasel our way up to draft Calvin Johnson (for he likely won't be there at 6) We have to solidify and strengthen our Defensive Line with our best pick. The only trade down scenario I would entertain is one that lets us trade back no more then ten spots, add another first day pick or more, and still get one of the top prospects on our chart.

CaptChaos86
March-28th-2007, 08:29 AM
I agree i really hope we stay at that spot and pick up a stud. But im not against trading down to get more players. We also are gonna need some depth on the D-line.

cphil006
March-28th-2007, 08:29 AM
Depends on who is there. ALan Branch, Gaines Adams, and Jamaal Anderson, are NOT worth of a #6 pick.

Calvin Johnson is. If he is not there, we trade down... and get Landry

Skinsfor4
March-28th-2007, 08:38 AM
Why would we try and trade up?We dont need any more WRs!What we need is D,and any way we go about improving ours is the way to go!Either we pick #6 or we trade down a few spots and land another pick.What we cant do is this Briggs deal,no matter how much that money grubbing skunk Rosenhaus tries to sell it!

the burgundy and gold
March-28th-2007, 08:52 AM
Calvin Johnson is. If he is not there, we trade down... and get Landry


agreed that sounds like the best plan. :applause:

lzeis24
March-28th-2007, 08:58 AM
I love both Cooley and Taylor...however, had we taken Winslow instead of Taylor I think we all would have been happy. Im not putting down either player - I think either way we would have done well with that fifth pick. I do not feel as confident this year. I'm reading a lot about Branch's stock dropping and I also read that Adams ran his 40 in the 4.4 or 4.5 range - which is very fast.

graniteFallsNCskins
March-28th-2007, 09:17 AM
Gibbs loved winslow until he showed up 45 min. late to his meeting before the draft.Winslow is'nt even close to Cooley. Cooley the best pick we've had during Gibbs 2

graniteFallsNCskins
March-28th-2007, 09:25 AM
There's only three players in this draft that's worth top 10 money. Calvin Johnson, Laron Landry and Joe Thomas. If you can't get one of those guys,you better trade down.

graniteFallsNCskins
March-28th-2007, 09:34 AM
I love both Cooley and Taylor...however, had we taken Winslow instead of Taylor I think we all would have been happy. Im not putting down either player - I think either way we would have done well with that fifth pick. I do not feel as confident this year. I'm reading a lot about Branch's stock dropping and I also read that Adams ran his 40 in the 4.4 or 4.5 range - which is very fast.

Everyone on this board would be yelling BUST.Winslow one season out of three?You seen what happened to Lavar after 3 pro bowl years when he was injuried.Plus whoever drafted Cooley would've taken the best tight end.Idont think anyone would be happy other than K2.

HateYanksDukeCowboys
March-28th-2007, 09:35 AM
We got a guy named Sean Taylor at #5.

I say keep the pick, don't trade it to Chicago, don't trade down, keep it and draft a stud, preferably one named Gaines Adams, to help out this defense.


Carlos Rogers was our most recent high pick.

ChampSkinsFanatic
March-28th-2007, 09:38 AM
I love both Cooley and Taylor...however, had we taken Winslow instead of Taylor I think we all would have been happy.

Speak for yourself:rolleyes: ,

Sean Taylor's rookie season... memories:notworthy

ChiefPowhatan17
March-28th-2007, 10:01 AM
Winslow has done nothing compaired to Taylor. Taylor is one of the best things that Gibbs has done as far as personel. I would not have wanted any other guy besides Sean Taylor that year. I would like to stick at #6, but if we do trade down we will still get value up till #16. If we go for Briggs, then maybe we can get Tank Tyler at #31, but I don't know if he will be there.

tone_dubbz
March-28th-2007, 10:03 AM
We got a guy named Sean Taylor at #5.

I say keep the pick, don't trade it to Chicago, don't trade down, keep it and draft a stud, preferably one named Gaines Adams, to help out this defense.

I'm with you, we can't afford to give up a pick that high.

only if that lance briggs deal gave us a 1st and a 2nd rounder.

Bliz
March-28th-2007, 10:11 AM
Everyone on this board would be yelling BUST.Winslow one season out of three?You seen what happened to Lavar after 3 pro bowl years when he was injuried.Plus whoever drafted Cooley would've taken the best tight end.Idont think anyone would be happy other than K2.

Still to be determined. KWII is an *** and I hate him. But injuries, even those caused by stupidity, aren't enough to make someone a bust.

He still has the potential to be by far the best tight end in the game, and could be the next Tony Gonzalez by the time his career is over. That doesn't mean that I'd rather have him than Cooley - attitude and character go a long way toward being a "core redskin." But facts are facts, and the fact is KWII had the most receptions, and 3rd most receiving yards of any TE in the league last year. Gibbs loved him for a reason.

Skinsinparadise
March-28th-2007, 10:15 AM
For the posts that say there is no Sean Taylor caliber player in this draft..well, I love Sean Taylor but he isn't the best safety in the league, at least yet.

And this draft reminds me some of Taylor's draft in that its a SAFETY who is getting argubaly the most hype and that is Laron Landry. Actually if you read the reports he in a way is hyped to be BETTER than Taylor. Landry is supposed to be a stud against BOTH the run and the pass. According to multiple reports, he's a smart player who directs the defensive back field, and rarely gets fooled by play fakes and misdirection plays.

Taylor is a beast in particular against the run and is as hard hitting a safety as it gets. But, we've seen him get burned in coverage a lot. And he's not known as play caller who directs the backfield, he instead seems to need to be directed. Landry seems to be the perfect complement to him and yeah to me at least he seems at least as hyped as Taylor was before the draft

Landry's scouting report

Strengths: Possesses good height, decent bulk and the frame to get bigger. Shows good fluidity and top-end speed. He consistently gets a quick break on the ball and diagnoses the run very quickly. He shows good toughness and strength in run support, especially for his size. He fills hard and shows adequate power at the point of attack. Sideline-to-sideline playmaker versus the run. He displays better-than-average range in zone coverage and he also can match up one-on-one versus slot receivers in the NFL. He is an instinctive playmaker with adequate-to-good ball skills. He has a good mental capacity and coaches rave about his ability to pick things up quickly. He is a good leader in the secondary and does a great job of getting everyone in position. He has tremendous experience as a four-year starter at the highest collegiate level. He also has been extremely versatile in LSU's secondary throughout his career.

Overall: Landry played in all 14 games (10 starts) as a true freshman in 2003 and recorded 80 total tackles, 3.5 tackles for loss, three sacks, two interceptions, four pass-breakups, and one blocked kick. He was knocked out of the Arkansas game (11/28) with a concussion. In 2004, Landry started all 12 games finishing the season with 92 total tackles, five tackles for loss, three sacks, four interceptions, six pass-breakups, and one forced fumble. He once again started every game (13) in 2005 registering 69 total tackles, four tackles for loss, one sack, three interceptions, and eight pass-breakups. In 2006 he started all 13 games, earning first team All-American and first team All-SEC honors (both media and coaches), after collecting 74 tackles, 3.5 tackles for loss, one sack, one forced fumble, one blocked kick, and three interceptions. Over the past four seasons, Landry has seen time at free safety, strong safety, and cornerback.

Landry is as close to the complete package as it gets for a safety prospect coming from the collegiate ranks. He projects as an immediate starter at free safety in the NFL; he can hold up in the box, in deep-middle zone coverage and one-on-one versus a slot receiver. In our opinion, Landry is the top safety in the 2007 class and he should come off the board in the first-half of the first round.

EnFoRcEr_uPu
March-28th-2007, 10:15 AM
We need DL HAMBURGER!!! Keep the pick. LB's NEVER go this high for a reason...they're not as important as DL.

Was Kenard Lang really the last DL we drafted in the 1st rd???! No wonder we've been such weenies in the trenches...

Not to down on your post, but A.J. Hawk went at #5 last year. Of course LB of that talent don't come up too often, but it does happen from time to time.

HateYanksDukeCowboys
March-28th-2007, 10:17 AM
Not to down on your post, but A.J. Hawk went at #5 last year. Of course LB of that talent don't come up too often, but it does happen from time to time.

he's another Katzenmoyer waiting to happen.

terpfan
March-28th-2007, 10:23 AM
Alan Branch > Gaines Adams, for us anyway.
I highly disagree. I think Adams is both a better prospect and fills a bigger need.

xX2PORTIS6Xx
April-1st-2007, 12:43 PM
Last Time=Sean Taylor
This Time= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-RmDkQMk9s&mode=related&search=

Stew
April-1st-2007, 12:46 PM
Its not like Winslow sucks . . .


Its not like he is EVER healthy either.

ClintonINFORSIX26
April-1st-2007, 12:52 PM
We got a guy named Sean Taylor at #5.

I say keep the pick, don't trade it to Chicago, don't trade down, keep it and draft a stud, preferably one named Gaines Adams, to help out this defense.

I definitely agree...:cheers:

planter
April-1st-2007, 01:26 PM
I agree. Keep the pick and make the right decision!



If the Skins can't pick talent, then we're screwed in the long run anyway

ImmortalDragon
April-1st-2007, 02:52 PM
The only way for this staff to pick is while being high.

Kosher Ham
April-1st-2007, 04:24 PM
I remember having high draft picks several times over the last decade. At least 2 of those picks are no longer Redskins.

Taylor is a great potential player, but he is not the best S in the league.

I hate the idea of trading up for Calvin, I hate the idea of having a Clemson player. But thats just me.