Schedule Visits...(merged x 3)

[ClintonINFORSIX26]

Says on NFL.com Gaines Adams is coming in for a visit april 16th...It also says brady quinn and Adrian Peterson have also scheduled visits with the team...

http://www.nfl.com/draft/analysis/individual_workouts:cheers:

[KDawg]

I like that we're exploring ALL of our options. Can never be too prepared, even if you have no intention on actually picking some of these guys.

[ClintonINFORSIX26]

Well...its crucial in trying to figure out their trade value...and also will make teams think about what we are doing...let the offers roll in!

[JohnnyUtah]

has Jamaal Anderson come in for a visit? Does anyone know if he is scheduled to?

[Diesel70ChipOnWhite]

Here come all the Brady Quinn rumors!

[ClintonINFORSIX26]

has Jamaal Anderson come in for a visit? Does anyone know if he is scheduled to?

I mean they prolly will have him come in before the draft and hopefullly okoye too...I wish i had more info sorry

[JohnnyUtah]

I def. agree that these are smokescreen visits. I really think that we're trying to move up and make a play for Calvin Johnson. In yesterday's post article, Gibbs was even discussing scenarios that involved moving up. CJ in our offense would be unstoppable, which would give the defense a break, instead of continually going 3 and out. Adding a player like CJ, who only comes around about every 5-10 years, would improve every facet of the team.

[JohnnyUtah]

It's cool. Thanks for the info. that you have...I hadn't heard anything about scheduled visits.

[ClintonINFORSIX26]

Here come all the Brady Quinn rumors!

Haha true....I wouldnt even give it a second thought Brady Quinn wont be drafted by us

[EnFoRcEr_uPu]

I like that we're exploring ALL of our options. Can never be too prepared, even if you have no intention on actually picking some of these guys.

Exactly. A large part of why you bring in guys like Quinn and Peterson is to scale their talents. This way, is they do fall to #6, we'll know what we're working with and what kind of trades we may be looking at if we should decide to trade down.

I like what they're doing so far.

[ClintonINFORSIX26]

I def. agree that these are smokescreen visits. I really think that we're trying to move up and make a play for Calvin Johnson. In yesterday's post article, Gibbs was even discussing scenarios that involved moving up. CJ in our offense would be unstoppable, which would give the defense a break, instead of continually going 3 and out. Adding a player like CJ, who only comes around about every 5-10 years, would improve every facet of the team.

Yeah sounds like it, Much rather have Okoye, Anderson or Adams...but if its not going to cost us alot thats certainly a great option

[ClintonINFORSIX26]

has Jamaal Anderson come in for a visit? Does anyone know if he is scheduled to?

I was reading in the combine results that we had our scouts present at his pro day...I believe he will definitely come in for a visit before the draft

[cphil006]

we want no one to know our plans, gives us leverage in trading because people don't know we want someone more than they do and force us to give up more for it.

[KDawg]

Wait, I messed up with my first response...

WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO CLINTON AND LADELL WHEN WE DRAFT PETERSON!?

OH AND WHEN WE TRADE UP TO GET QUINN TOO WHAT'S GOING ON WITH CAMPBELL!
? WE MUST HAVE GIVEN UP ON HIM! LIKE OMG!

That falls more in line with the general thinking of the forum.

[argentina_redskins]

I like that our FO is exploring all options. If they bring in Peterson or Quinn I'd kill myself, but I really like the idea of getting to know them.

I also hope that our FO is not retarted and brings in Adam Carriker (in case we trade down a bit), Alan Branch (I don't like him though), Amobi Okoye and especially Jamaal Anderson.

We should also be looking at a FEW prospects who could go in the middle rounds in case we happen to trade down, and if they have a chance lock into somebody for the Second Day.

[Stormy]

That falls more in line with the general thinking of the forum.

Yes, because allegedly having an offer with defined parameters "on the table" for the Bears to counter, is the equivalent of the mass invites which a team picking in the top 6 patently sends out this time of the year. Both are equally routine. Nothing to see here.

Nothing personal, as I like your take on most issues KDawg, but your hyperbole here is every bit as reflexive as the knee jerk crowd's response to innumerable Briggs' rumors IMO :2cents:

[the krabber]

Apparently we are setting up a meeting with Russell as well...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2817276 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2817276)

[macnoke03]

Apparently we are setting up a meeting with Russell as well...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2817276 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2817276)


Yep, just saw that too. This better be nothing more than posturing.

[skins383]

When will they leave the skins alone....GOODGOD!!!!


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2817276

[the krabber]

Not to bust your chops or anything, I already posted this in the "Schedule Visits" thread.

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=194442&page=2&pp=15

But if its more than posturing, Ill be upset.

In #17 I trust.

[fdarugar]

I am calling shananigans...we are blowing a ton of smoke around.

[tizzod]

We are meeting with Russell?

I HATE our front office! Now we are screwed for the next 10 years after we trade away the farm to get him! I hate the Redskins! I'm done!

We have the worst, most ignorant front office ever. I'm so fed up. I can't believe they are going to do whatever it takes to draft him. Yet another instance of how inept everyone associated with the Redskins is.
































;)

[Duckus]

It will stop right around the same time the Redskins stop making crazy, insane and mind boggling off-season transactions. We have done PERFECT this off-season so far, but our reputation is going to take a few years to fix.

Do I think we will try and move up to draft him? No, I don’t think that at all.

But have the Redskins done things over their past 10 years making them completely unpredictable? Yes. Until the Redskins stop making those “wow” trades and signings, articles like this will be normal.

[Dick Edds]

Says on NFL.com Gaines Adams is coming in for a visit april 16th...It also says brady quinn and Adrian Peterson have also scheduled visits with the team...

http://www.nfl.com/draft/analysis/individual_workouts:cheers:


I like that Cooely pic ... in a Heismann type of pose.

[TD's All Day]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2817276.

There has to be a method to this madness. I'm hoping it is to shop the pick.

[Jimbo]

My guess is if we show OUR interest, maybe the Raiders are more likely to take Russell and that allows the Skins to trade up with Detroit for CJ.

Our FO seems to be treating the 6th pick like the plague. :(

[AKM311]

I think Gibbs is showing, he is after every player, so if you want any of the guys we are going after, you might want to trade up.

[Slacky McSlackAss]

already being discusses in the scheduled visits thread.

[BLEED-B&G]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2817276.

There has to be a method to this madness. I'm hoping it is to shop the pick.

How does meeting with Russell help us shop our pick?

[McMetal]

Fatsquarelli stirring the pot.

Just gamesmanship, boys.

I bet they've already told the team not to believe anything they read or hear for the next few weeks...

[TD's All Day]

already being discusses in the scheduled visits thread.


My bad. I thought I looked for it carefully. I apologize.

[McD5]

I hope it is just posturing. But I wouldn't count anything out when it comes to the Skins FO.

I don't think they really have any confidence in JC at quarterback.

[Ernie5]

The level of idiocy has reached epic proportions here. The team hasn't DONE ANYTHING!!!!!!! It just amazes me that people are ready to crucify -- what do I mean READY to crucify???? -- over rumors or even mere due diligence on the part of the Redskins. You talk to the players who might be available to you or to teams that might want to trade w/you. Good front offices talk to people. Talking to Russell or anyone else doesn't guarantee action.

I honestly think a large portion of people here really really enjoy attacking the front office. That's fine -- at least wait until they actually DO SOMETHING you object to!

[HapHaszard]

No need to get excited, I am sure they have met with lots of people, this one just got reported. Who knows what lurks in the mind of Gibbs :silly: He sure isn't telling.

[Ernie5]

It is also worth noting that Len P. is a notorious non-journalist Snyder/Redskin-bashing dumbass. Let's consider the source boys & girls.

[pjfootballer]

usually the top 10 recruits will be visiting every team with a top 10 pick. Nothing unusual here.

[Donita35]

Lord please make it stop. This just isn't funny anymore. Please let it be set up for something that we actually need. :doh:

[Hamilbone13]

This is just the logistics of teams that are in the upper part of round 1. Russell is meeting with numerous teams. Our FO wouldn't be doing their job if they didn't at least meet with him. However, we need a "real" GM!!! I wouldn't be surprised if we mortgaged the future by trading up.

[Hooper]

The smokescreen continues. Hopefully the FO is telling Campbell this is all crap.

BTW, I heard Rocky Mac jumped off a bridge last night.

[afparent]

Shouldn't the FO be focusing on realistic things!!!!

[argentina_redskins]

We are meeting with him. This is not made up by the media. I just hope this is a smokescreen ... it better be ...

[HailSkinz1]

I posted this earlier today, but the only way the Redskins move up is if JC is a part of the deal. I can see the Redskins trading JC and our 6th to move up to get Russell.

Personally, I think Russell is a franchise QB much like many of you think CJ is a franchise WR. I'd take a franchise QB over a franchise WR any day. And no, JC is not a franchise QB.

Having said that, I seriously doubt we're moving up. If Russell falls in our lap, take him and send thank you notes to all the teams that picked before us.

Hail,

H

[macnoke03]

in need of a merge

[argentina_redskins]

Repeated, but we won't draft him ... it sucks that the draft is 30 days away ... CAN'T WAIT!

[Hooper]

QBs are a total crapshoot. Several can't miss guys have missed.

Giving up on JC so soon would be sheer idiocy. Even this front office isn't that stupid.

I think.

[onnie007]

I know smoke when I see it. They just don't want the Bucs to know that we actually want CJ!!!:bucsuck:

[HailSkinz1]

QBs are a total crapshoot. Several can't miss guys have missed.

Giving up on JC so soon would be sheer idiocy. Even this front office isn't that stupid.

I think.

Is it more stupid to give up on a mistake, or to allow the mistake to continue?? Depends on your perspective I suppose.

Every player is a total crapshoot.

Hail,

H

[onnie007]

I posted this earlier today, but the only way the Redskins move up is if JC is a part of the deal. I can see the Redskins trading JC and our 6th to move up to get Russell.

Personally, I think Russell is a franchise QB much like many of you think CJ is a franchise WR. I'd take a franchise QB over a franchise WR any day. And no, JC is not a franchise QB.

Having said that, I seriously doubt we're moving up. If Russell falls in our lap, take him and send thank you notes to all the teams that picked before us.

Hail,

H

My heart just sank at even the thought of trading JC. JC is the future! Russell is just smoke to show our serious interest in moving up. We're going to move up...but its to get CJ!!! :applause:

[CaptChaos86]

I know smoke when I see it. They just don't want the Bucs to know that we actually want CJ!!!:bucsuck:

I just dont get the whole CJ thing. We dont have a need for him. If we didnt have Moss, Lloyd, Randle El, Cooley, and a bunch of back that can catch. Id say go for it. But i just dont see us drafting this dude. We have too many need on defense. Personally, i kinda have a feeling Cj is going to a bust. Im probably gonna get ripped for saying that but, thats how i feel.

[jimster]

Is it more stupid to give up on a mistake, or to allow the mistake to continue?? Depends on your perspective I suppose.

Every player is a total crapshoot.

Hail,

H

so after seven games we can determine Campbell was a mistake?

[dent19]

They have to meet with all the top prospects.... if not they wouldnt be doing their jobs......

Nothing much to this story...

[skinnyfan57]

The level of idiocy has reached epic proportions here. The team hasn't DONE ANYTHING!!!!!!! It just amazes me that people are ready to crucify -- what do I mean READY to crucify???? -- over rumors or even mere due diligence on the part of the Redskins. You talk to the players who might be available to you or to teams that might want to trade w/you. Good front offices talk to people. Talking to Russell or anyone else doesn't guarantee action.

I honestly think a large portion of people here really really enjoy attacking the front office. That's fine -- at least wait until they actually DO SOMETHING you object to!

Ok....in that case I object to a lot more than just visiting with Russell. How Bout these
-trading champ for Portis and a 2nd rounder
-deion sanders
-letting A. Pierce go
-letting smoot go (even though he's back)
-brandon lloyd
-TJ Duckett
-Adam Archuletta
-Bruce Smith
-Lav Coles
-Letting Ryan Clark Go
-Turning a day at Fedex Field into a barely affordable experience
-Trading for Briggs
-Spurrier
-Firing Marty
-on and on and on and on............oh. the fact that we've been to the playoffs 2 times in the past 15 or so years.

I guess I shouldn't go on.......look........ If someone wants to ***** about this FO they have all the fire power they would need. Keep on ignoring the past and your bound to repeat it.

And I also take objection that we would talk with Russell. Campbell doesn't need to hear that stuff.

[onnie007]

I just dont get the whole CJ thing. We dont have a need for him. If we didnt have Moss, Lloyd, Randle El, Cooley, and a bunch of back that can catch. Id say go for it. But i just dont see us drafting this dude. We have too many need on defense. Personally, i kinda have a feeling Cj is going to a bust. Im probably gonna get ripped for saying that but, thats how i feel.

Yeah, its just my opinion. I just don't know what else you would want in a WR. 6'5...4.3...42 inch vert....good attitude and personality....doesn't get in trouble.....He would be a great replacement for Lloyd. Lloyd is not a core Redskin and is tantrums are evidence of that. He needs to go if he doesn't improve. Meanwhile, there is a vacancy with Patten's departure. :D Again, I have no idea what they are going to do. Its all smoke at this point. Let's have faith that the FO will get it right! I will support any decision they make. HTTR!

[NVskinsfan]

Call it what you want, but it is all smoke and mirrors...since we have no real draft threats after #6 we are making everyone sweat...:laugh:

[#21Taylor4Ever]

This is nothing more then the Skins being the Skins. We're simply trying to make other teams think we could take Russell so they'll trade us their life!!!

I love being a Skins fan!

[chiplohmillers#1]

I am 98% sure that we will not draft a QB. I am going to say that I trust the front office is just using this as a ploy to get someone to trade up. However if we do draft Russell I will denounce the move and resign as a Redskins fan.

[HailSkinz1]

My heart just sank at even the thought of trading JC. JC is the future! Russell is just smoke to show our serious interest in moving up. We're going to move up...but its to get CJ!!! :applause:

Who are we trading to get CJ? He has said that CP is in our plans next year. Gibbs said he wants to hold onto his future picks, but that trading up is easier than trading down. Who else do we have that would tempt someone to trade back to the sixth pick?

It's just speculation, I know, but I don't see how we can trade up and keep our futures and keep CP without JC being a part of the deal.

And for the record, I would be pissed if we give up futures for a WR, I don't care who it is. Who's the last WR drafted early that actually panned out? Smart scouting departments can find good WRs at a dime a dozen.

Hail,

H

[Hooper]

Talk about a move that would test the fanbase.

[BuryYourDuke]

I don't believe this is anything other than posturing...although I would love to have him. I am sure we could get a 2nd rounder or so for Campbell. Have fun with that guys, haha.

[HailSkinz1]

so after seven games we can determine Campbell was a mistake?

Actually, JC was a mistake to draft period. But in the context of this discussion, if the Redskins were to trade him, then I think you could conclude they thought it was a mistake, OR simply that they found a way to upgrade to a better QB. And Russell is a better QB.

EDIT: I should clarify - by mistake, I mean I think we gave up too much for JC.

Hail,

H

[SnyderMustGo]

To all the people screaming smoke screen and due dilligence.

Where are the meetings with Joe Thomas? Adrian Peterson? Brady Quinn?

Try to ignore it the best you can, but there were reports about a month ago of how enamored Snyder was with Russell. And now we are telling the press it is more likely we move than down, and we are meeting with Russell.

At some point you have to face the obvious: the team doesn't have a clue what they are doing and are not confident with any position on the roster.

[BuryYourDuke]

I posted this earlier today, but the only way the Redskins move up is if JC is a part of the deal. I can see the Redskins trading JC and our 6th to move up to get Russell.

Personally, I think Russell is a franchise QB much like many of you think CJ is a franchise WR. I'd take a franchise QB over a franchise WR any day. And no, JC is not a franchise QB.

Having said that, I seriously doubt we're moving up. If Russell falls in our lap, take him and send thank you notes to all the teams that picked before us.

Hail,

H

Glad someone besides me thinks JC might not actually stand for Jesus Christ.

[ntotoro]

There are probably 31 other teams meeting with him, too.

[BuryYourDuke]

Talk about a move that would test the fanbase.

The move would only test the Campbell worship on this board. PLENTY of Skins fans who aren't internet dorks like us have their doubts about the guy.

[Hooper]

There are probably 31 other teams meeting with him, too.

I don't think so.

We're trying to outsmart folks, which is just hilarious. I'm sure all the other GMS in the league are laughing their butts off.

Except Matt Millen. He's confused.

[ntotoro]

To all the people screaming smoke screen and due dilligence.

Where are the meetings with Joe Thomas? Adrian Peterson? Brady Quinn?

Not sure about Joe Thomas, but Adrian Peterson and Brady Quinn both have visits scheduled with the 'Skins, according to NFL.com.

[BKSkinsFan]

We can call this smoke screens and the Redskins bluffing their true intentions. However, they may be showing that by wanting to get out of #6 so badly that they believe the d-linemen in this draft are not worth picking up. They'd rather trade up to get Russell, Quinn, or CJ than to draft DLine, Landry, or Hall?

Wouldn't that in turn maybe make some teams think twice about acquiring our pick if that's what their need is? Are we making the pick look not as valuable by seemingly wanting to move somewhere else so badly? Hell, maybe we're making it look like we don't want a certain player, just to ensure that he is there when we're on the clock at #6.

Nobody knows what may happen at this point. The Raiders have been on the clock way too long for me, just go ahead and make your pick so we can get this thing started! lol

[Donita35]

To all the people screaming smoke screen and due dilligence.

Where are the meetings with Joe Thomas? Adrian Peterson? Brady Quinn?

Try to ignore it the best you can, but there were reports about a month ago of how enamored Snyder was with Russell. And now we are telling the press it is more likely we move than down, and we are meeting with Russell.

At some point you have to face the obvious: the team doesn't have a clue what they are doing and are not confident with any position on the roster.

Good point. I didn't think about it this way. :mad:

[HailSkinz1]

Glad someone besides me thinks JC might not actually stand for Jesus Christ.

LOL! Yeah, you would think so on this board! Fact is, JC hasn't done anything to get everyone excited. The possible hint of drafting Russell however, to me is very exciting! Which only means I'm falling right into The Danny's trap.

Hail,

H

[HailSkinz1]

We can call this smoke screens and the Redskins bluffing their true intentions. However, they may be showing that by wanting to get out of #6 so badly that they believe the d-linemen in this draft are not worth picking up. They'd rather trade up to get Russell, Quinn, or CJ than to draft DLine, Landry, or Hall?

Wouldn't that in turn maybe make some teams think twice about acquiring our pick if that's what their need is? Are we making the pick look not as valuable by seemingly wanting to move somewhere else so badly? Hell, maybe we're making it look like we don't want a certain player, just to ensure that he is there when we're on the clock at #6.

Nobody knows what may happen at this point. The Raiders have been on the clock way too long for me, just go ahead and make your pick so we can get this thing started! lol

You make a good point there because lost in all this is the fact that Gibbs said something to the effect that they didn't want to spend a lot of money on a guy with the 6th pick that they didn't think was worthy of the 6th pick. They'd rather ship that pick off, move up, and spend money on someone they really covet.

[Art]

So, Jemarcus, tell me about Mr. Landry :).

[TheLongshot]

Not sure about Joe Thomas, but Adrian Peterson and Brady Quinn both have visits scheduled with the 'Skins, according to NFL.com.

It wouldn't surprise me if Joe Thomas comes in as well.

You know, all of this can have another purpose as well. All of these guys could eventually become members of an opposing team. Having a good scouting report on all of these guys can be an advantage when facing up with them during the season. So, while you are in the top 10, take advantage of the chance to interview these guys and see what they are like and what they bring to the game.

Jason

[jimster]

I just find it funny that so many people claim that "smokescreens" don't work, yet we have all these people thinking we are drafting him because he's working out.

[fansince62]

So, Jemarcus, tell me about Mr. Landry :).

I like that take!

though I still think if we stick at six it's gonna be a DT

[JetSkins]

why? i don't understand the front office

[SnyderMustGo]

Not sure about Joe Thomas, but Adrian Peterson and Brady Quinn both have visits scheduled with the 'Skins, according to NFL.com.

Really? Have a link. I missed that.

[Warpath11]

Due Diligence!!

[ouvan59]

Really? Have a link. I missed that.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/analysis/individual_workouts

They also mention Gaines Adams and Ted Ginn, Jr. in there.

[jamesbondman]

To all the people screaming smoke screen and due dilligence.

Where are the meetings with Joe Thomas? Adrian Peterson? Brady Quinn?

Try to ignore it the best you can, but there were reports about a month ago of how enamored Snyder was with Russell. And now we are telling the press it is more likely we move than down, and we are meeting with Russell.

At some point you have to face the obvious: the team doesn't have a clue what they are doing and are not confident with any position on the roster.

YOU have no clue. The team wants to meet with a player, so that makes them dumb and stupid?

I guess if they refused to meet with any college athletes then you would cheer them and cal them genius. Man....you are clueless. In case you don't understand yet, when you meet college athletes you get to know them. You get to ask them questions. It's called gathering information on players that will be drafted.

[SnyderMustGo]

Thanks. I still can't imagine why we would work out qbs or rbs, due diligence or not. Is there any chance at all we select them?

The team ought to be able to say: we are happy with what we have here and will not make any effort to draft those positions.

[JoeGibbsThickandthin]

To all the people screaming smoke screen and due dilligence.

Where are the meetings with Joe Thomas? Adrian Peterson? Brady Quinn?

Try to ignore it the best you can, but there were reports about a month ago of how enamored Snyder was with Russell. And now we are telling the press it is more likely we move than down, and we are meeting with Russell.

At some point you have to face the obvious: the team doesn't have a clue what they are doing and are not confident with any position on the roster.

They are meeting with Quinn and peterson soon.

[tizzod]

Can someone please tell me what we have to offer another team, that they will ACCEPT, for us to trade up? All I am guessing that we could put on the table were future picks. High picks.

I don't understand how we could possibly trade up. Betts and #6 isn't going to get us anywhere. Campbell and #6 isn't going to get us anywhere. Campbell, Betts, and #6 no one would take. So really, what can we give besides #6, and next year's first and second or something ridiculous like that?

[JoeGibbsThickandthin]

Thanks. I still can't imagine why we would work out qbs or rbs, due diligence or not. Is there any chance at all we select them?

The team ought to be able to say: we are happy with what we have here and will not make any effort to draft those positions.



What are you talking about? They want to trade down and go more picks. You just are not understanding this are you?

[JoeGibbsThickandthin]

YOU have no clue. The team wants to meet with a player, so that makes them dumb and stupid?

I guess if they refused to meet with any college athletes then you would cheer them and cal them genius. Man....you are clueless. In case you don't understand yet, when you meet college athletes you get to know them. You get to ask them questions. It's called gathering information on players that will be drafted.

He does not understand. He just is a Snyder hate. He thinks they should only met with defensive ends. That will be a great stategy to trade down. LET TEAMS KNOW WHO YOU WANT!

[illone]

At some point you have to face the obvious: the team doesn't have a clue what they are doing and are not confident with any position on the roster.


That's a fair ASSumption for a guy who deserves the asshat avatar.
:)

[jimster]

clearly, the only people that have a clue are guys on a message board.

[ImmortalDragon]

There is a limit to the number of visits we can have, why are we wasting them on positions we are already secure at?

[JoeGibbsThickandthin]

Its called trying to trade down. If you workout everybody and a team wants a Quinn OR Russle then the Redskins can say we are going to pick him. What do you want to offer us?

[Peregrine]

The level of idiocy has reached epic proportions here. The team hasn't DONE ANYTHING!!!!!!! It just amazes me that people are ready to crucify -- what do I mean READY to crucify???? -- over rumors or even mere due diligence on the part of the Redskins. You talk to the players who might be available to you or to teams that might want to trade w/you. Good front offices talk to people. Talking to Russell or anyone else doesn't guarantee action.

I honestly think a large portion of people here really really enjoy attacking the front office. That's fine -- at least wait until they actually DO SOMETHING you object to!

LOL I agree wholeheartedly. At least wait for the FO to screw up before tearing into them. If we DONT talk with Russel, CJ, Peterson etc, then when they fall to #6 teams behind us who want them know we arent interested, and thus, are willing to stay put and not trade up to our spot to get them. If they think we are interested and may draft that individual, then they will talk to us to trade up to our spot. Its really quite simple.

[JoeGibbsThickandthin]

Can someone please tell me what we have to offer another team, that they will ACCEPT, for us to trade up? All I am guessing that we could put on the table were future picks. High picks.

I don't understand how we could possibly trade up. Betts and #6 isn't going to get us anywhere. Campbell and #6 isn't going to get us anywhere. Campbell, Betts, and #6 no one would take. So really, what can we give besides #6, and next year's first and second or something ridiculous like that?


A first next year and a third plus our 6 to the Lions or Raiders i suspect if they want CJ.

Gibbs said they are talking to two teams about trading up.

[Never21Forgotten36]

Can someone please tell me what we have to offer another team, that they will ACCEPT, for us to trade up? All I am guessing that we could put on the table were future picks. High picks.

I don't understand how we could possibly trade up. Betts and #6 isn't going to get us anywhere. Campbell and #6 isn't going to get us anywhere. Campbell, Betts, and #6 no one would take. So really, what can we give besides #6, and next year's first and second or something ridiculous like that?

Probably next year's first and/or second rounders plus the 6th pick. Which wouldnt make me want to jump off a bridge or anything because when next year's draft rolls around, we will find someway to get a first or high second round pick back. So trading next year's high picks wont be the end of the franchise or anything. I don't get why everyone is so mad. NOBODY has a clue what is going to happen. The mods don't, the ES regulars don't, the ES newcombers don't, the players, trainers, accountants, capologists don't. I don't think Snyder, Cerrato, or Gibbs have a clue what we are going to do yet. So everyone calm down.

[RonArtest15]

Joe Gibbs must be really good at poker...nothin more than a smokescreen....I think this is just to put a little heat on the Raiders in that they would take Russell w/ the #1 pick...all the while we try to trade up to #2 and get the pick from Detroit..

[JoeGibbsThickandthin]

There is a limit to the number of visits we can have, why are we wasting them on positions we are already secure at?


TO TRADE DOWN. You guys talk about the front office having no clue:doh:


The top 6 prospects in the draft are Quinn,Russle, Peterson,CJ, Gaines Adams and Joe Thomas in any order.

If you only workout 1 of them in Adams how the hell can you convince a team to trade up if a Quinn slips?

Explain. This board is full of drama queens.

[Cyber Pimp]

I think the FO isnt sold on JC. If they were they wouldnt entertain other qb's. Either way only time will tell.

[Taurus82]

that a bunch of bull@#$%

[Hooper]

A first next year and a third plus our 6 to the Lions or Raiders i suspect if they want CJ.

Gibbs said they are talking to two teams about trading up.

Yep. That's at least what it would take.

[EersSkins05]

Check the source, fellas. Pastabelly likes nothing more than to stir the ---- when it comes to the Redskins FO.

[JoeGibbsThickandthin]

I think the FO isnt sold on JC. If they were they wouldnt entertain other qb's. Either way only time will tell.


LOL. They are bringing in Peterson. Does that mean they are not sold on Portis and Betts?

People believe everything i notice if it is in print.

[ImmortalDragon]

TO TRADE DOWN. You guys talk about the front office having no clue:doh:


The top 6 prospects in the draft are Quinn,Russle, Peterson,CJ, Gaines Adams and Joe Thomas in any order.

If you only workout 1 of them in Adams how the hell can you convince a team to trade up if a Quinn slips?

Explain. This board is full of drama queens.

Name one other team that has attempted this tactic
Minny has the pick right behind us, someone will want to jump over them to pick up Quinn if he falls
And why do we always have to trade? This board is full of drama queens because thats exactly what the Redskins stir up with these odd moves.

[JoeGibbsThickandthin]

Name one other team that has attempted this tactic
Minny has the pick right behind us, someone will want to jump over them to pick up Quinn if he falls
And why do we always have to trade? This board is full of drama queens because thats exactly what the Redskins stir up with these odd moves.


Why are they trying to trade down and obtain more picks? Do you realize what you are saying?

[ImmortalDragon]

Why are they trying to trade down and obtain more picks? Do you realize what you are saying?
I'm happy with staying at 6 and picking Alan Branch, thats my best case scenario.

[TaylorPickSix]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Ted Ginn aspect of that article...we set up a workout with him and are bringing Jason Campbell to throw to him!?!

[alwaysaskin]

This is us trying to get out of the 6th pick, one way or another, it's due dilligence to meet with Russell, and it sends the message that we will talk to teams if he slips to #6. I think Gibbs is trying to pressure Oakland and Detroit, so we can move up to get CJ. Make it look like we're interested in JaMarcus then force Oakland's hand, we don't want to move up if CJ isn't there.

[trez]

When is this crap ever going to end? Oh yeah, April 28th.

[KingGibbs]

At this rate, all of us are going to end up in the Insane Asylum.

[Cyber Pimp]

LOL. They are bringing in Peterson. Does that mean they are not sold on Portis and Betts?

People believe everything i notice if it is in print.

Its a chance Portis or Betts might get traded and they looking for another RB. I personally think all this hooplah is to get us loyal fans to the draft party. So Danny Boy can get our money out of our pocket.

[JoeGibbsThickandthin]

I'm happy with staying at 6 and picking Alan Branch, thats my best case scenario.

But Branch can fall to 12. So if they trade down to 12 and add a second round pick you get more value and pay less money for Branch.

[trez]

We are meeting with Russell?

I HATE our front office! Now we are screwed for the next 10 years after we trade away the farm to get him! I hate the Redskins! I'm done!

We have the worst, most ignorant front office ever. I'm so fed up. I can't believe they are going to do whatever it takes to draft him. Yet another instance of how inept everyone associated with the Redskins is.

;)

At the very least, its pissing off Jason Campbell. Skins are retarded.

[Stormy]

So, Jemarcus, tell me about Mr. Landry :).

Hey, Art, that's an interesting take. Just for the sake of entertainment value, what percentage would you currently place on the Redskins actually staying in the #6 spot? Personally, I think that the talk of "moving up" is a farce, as I can't see how we could make it work without either a.) mortgaging another future draft or b.) tossing in a player/pick to make it happen that would create another enormous void at a position of need. I think "moving back" is more likely, though more difficult a manuever to ultimately make work smoothly. I think we are demonstrating zero desire to stay put and take the best DL or BPA that falls to us (and it's unlikely that the fan backlash and media scorn of activity for activity sake will phase the F.O.).

So, I put the likelihood of staying put at #6, or even of wisely moving back a few spots, taking the best DL available and adding a high #2 in the process, at 10% (even though I find it the most desirable move). Seems more likely that we'll try to make this Briggs deal work, against the grain... or trade away from the #6 pick outright. Wish all this activity was just a matter of our F.O. sending misleading smoke signals, but it smacks more of impulsive lack of design IMO.

[Cyber Pimp]

I posted this earlier today, but the only way the Redskins move up is if JC is a part of the deal. I can see the Redskins trading JC and our 6th to move up to get Russell.

Personally, I think Russell is a franchise QB much like many of you think CJ is a franchise WR. I'd take a franchise QB over a franchise WR any day. And no, JC is not a franchise QB.

Having said that, I seriously doubt we're moving up. If Russell falls in our lap, take him and send thank you notes to all the teams that picked before us.

Hail,

H

You said it best bro. :applause:

[SoCalSkins]

Brunell starting for another year. Hooray!

[ClintonINFORSIX26]

We arent taking Russel or Quinn....

[BKSkinsFan]

Brunell starting for another year. Hooray!

LOL Yeah this could all be part of Gibbs' evil plan to trade JC to make Mark Brunell the starter once again. Either that or they want to bring in Briggs to take JC out in camp so Brunell can take over. I can't wait to see which plan they're going to go with.

[ClintonINFORSIX26]

And my fault on the Ted Ginn Jr thing...I started the thread and over looked it

[apickmans]

maybe there should be a seperate thread that just states all the prospects we are either bringing in for a meeting or will have a private workout with them. Something similar to the thread that had everyone we have signed or re-signed so far in the offseason

[ClintonINFORSIX26]

Branch scares me coming into his pro day out of shape and overweight

[KingGibbs]

I hate to say this too loud, but IMO Gibbs has never shown that he is absolutely confident in Campbell and I think there are two players he would love to have being that he is offensive minded and that's Russell or Johnson. :paranoid:

[Hooper]

Brunell starting for another year. Hooray!

Oh man, could you imagine that? This board would be out of control.

[DieHard86]

This has to be a total bluff - Gibbs wants vets, he's not gonna coach forever. It was pulling teeth to get Campbell on the field. The Skins are just trying to mess with everyone with top picks.

[Cyber Pimp]

I hate to say this too loud, but IMO Gibbs has never shown that he is absolutely confident in Campbell and I think there are two players he would love to have being that he is offensive minded and that's Russell or Johnson. :paranoid:

Yea man I think that Joe isnt to impressed with JC. Maybe its the slow release.

[KDawg]

Yes, because allegedly having an offer with defined parameters "on the table" for the Bears to counter, is the equivalent of the mass invites which a team picking in the top 6 patently sends out this time of the year. Both are equally routine. Nothing to see here.

Nothing personal, as I like your take on most issues KDawg, but your hyperbole here is every bit as reflexive as the knee jerk crowd's response to innumerable Briggs' rumors IMO :2cents:

Actually, those are two entirely separate issues that I poke fun of. A massive invite of players fuels the crowd who have been believing the early rumors that we were going to draft Quinn, Peterson, and Russell.

And it wasn't really reflexive. It's something that has occured already on the board prior to this news.

But thanks for the props anyways bro :cheers:

[perturbed]

I don't think so.

We're trying to outsmart folks, which is just hilarious. I'm sure all the other GMS in the league are laughing their butts off.

Except Matt Millen. He's confused.


this made me LOL.. :laugh:

[F Landry]

Anyone who thinks twice about us taking Russell is on drugs and should be shot.

:2cents:

:(

[KDawg]

Thanks. I still can't imagine why we would work out qbs or rbs, due diligence or not. Is there any chance at all we select them?

The team ought to be able to say: we are happy with what we have here and will not make any effort to draft those positions.

Let me explain this to you...

Football teams evaluate all the talent they possibly can in order to decide they've made the right choice. In real life, you can't be too prepared for an annual event like the NFL Draft. Knowing a scouting report of all the possible prospects at your pick is a very, very handy tactic for multiple reasons...

1) You get an idea of which guys you like, and what guys you don't.

2) You get a scouting report of each player. If they go on to play for, say, Dallas, this is a very helpful item.

3) Posturing/Smokescreen. Say what you want about other GM's laughing (I know you didn't say that, but someone else did) but I doubt they are laughing much. We're using our "big splash" reputation to our advantage here. Those GMs have NO way of knowing who we're going to pull the trigger on. If their sold on a prospect and the 'Skins brought 'em in, they may not be there when the other team's pick comes up because we could snag him. Think about it. Why do you think most fans are up in arms?

4) If the players you originally wanted don't grade out well, get hurt before the draft in whatever fashion or any other extreme circumstance, you have backup options. Interviewing and working these guys out isn't a binding contract. It's a smart move. Plus, in the free agency era, alot of these guys could be free agents in 3+ years. We already have a scouting report on them.

Sometimes you have to think outside the box...

[Boy2Der]

Ted Ginn Jr. will work out April 12 at Ohio State. The Redskins are also coming in for a private workout April 16. They'll bring their quarterback Jason Campbell to throw to him

yeah the skins aren't drafting russel cause that makes them look really stupid trying to work out recievers with campbell then go draft russel please

[RDSKNfaithfull]

Stranger things have happened what if he slips to #6?

[pjfootballer]

Are you guys really that dumb or does it just come naturally? All of the top prospects ALWAYS, Repeat ALWAYS visit all the teams in the top 10. That way in case someone falls to their pick, they have a better idea of how to go about the pick. Do you guys honestly, 100% think our FO will take Russell. If you do, I got a bridge over the potomac river I want to sell you.

EDIT: Sorry to offend anyone who actually understands the process, not directed at you. Just the chicken littles.

[FunBunch7]

The Skins are toying with the Raiders trying to make them think Russell is more valuable than he really is hoping that the Raiders bite and draft him...then the Lions will be there at #2, in which case the Skins pull the trigger and move up to take CJ.

There is no way the Skins are seriously looking at Russell...it's all smoke screans!

[BuryYourDuke]

Anyone who thinks twice about us taking Russell is on drugs and should be shot.

:2cents:

:(

Yeah, how dare anyone even THINK about another QB after Jason Campbell came in and led us to the playoffs...wait...

[pjfootballer]

Smoke and Mirrors baby, smoke and mirrors.

[DonMagicJuan]

its all smoke screen, the redskins are dumb, but not that dumb...come on now...

[Darth Tater]

How does meeting with Russell help us shop our pick?
If you're really asking this seriously, can we play poker?

Here's a couple:

Tell teams behind us that we'd consider him if he dropped. Get a frenzy going somebody will jump ahead of us meaning the person we're really targeting is available or the person another team is targeting that now will have to trade with us.
Show we put a high value on the pick since we'd need it to have any chance at trading up. You better show us something to make us trade with you.

[pjfootballer]

Sorry, not sold on Russell as a great QB. Dude is overweight, it took him 3 years to wrestle the starting job at LSU full time and other than a "Rocket Arm", he doesn't impress me. So the guy can throw 80 yards. How many times a game do you throw 80 yards? Not saying the Jason is the next coming of Elway, but the kid shows promise. You gotta give him more than 7 games to prove himself. Gibbs has 2 more seasons, I doubt he'd take a hit on a Rookie QB, when he has a 3rd yr QB in the lineup.

I think he is probably trying to guage what the Raiders are going to pick. If he thinks they go Russell, he may be trying to swing a deal with Detroit to go to #2 and grab CJ. If he thinks the Raiders may go CJ, he may swing a deal with them to go to #1 to get CJ, NOT Russell.

Russell reminds me of a bigger Akili Smith. Had 1 great year in college and poof!!! sucky NFL career.

[Darth Tater]

Name one other team that has attempted this tactic
Minny has the pick right behind us, someone will want to jump over them to pick up Quinn if he falls
And why do we always have to trade? This board is full of drama queens because thats exactly what the Redskins stir up with these odd moves.
I could name about 31 other teams that are using or have used this tactic with varying degrees of success but I'm too lazy.

[Vladimir L]

Its normal to meet with players you dont even need.

You cant just meet with a bunch of linemen. It gives other team leverage and it shows other team what you are going to do.

[Ernie5]

At the very least, its pissing off Jason Campbell. Skins are retarded.

How do you know? If you have an in to JC, please inform.

[SonOfWashington]

We. Aren't. Taking. Him. like people have said before me teams always meet with players they dont plan on taking. so please, lets try not fill our board with OMG REDSKINS TO TRADE DOWN FOR RUSSEL?????//

[HitStickTaylor21]

I like this. I hope everything is coming together as a grand scheme for something amazing. I hope the Briggs trade and outlandish scheduled visits are a huge sharade to keep everyone guessing.

At the same time, we are justified to sit down with Russell. At #6, we SHOULD be sitting down with/looking at all of the top 10 prospects in the draft. After all, you never know what happens in the draft. Remember Matt Leinart last year? Aaron Rodgers even? Weren't these guys supposed to be possible top 3 picks? Look how far they slipped. What if something crazy happens and Russell somehow falls to us at #6. I
d say take him. If anything, just to hold over some other teams head to get more out of them. We must consider all scenarios for this draft. I like the move.

[JoeBugel4president]

Talking to Russel is no big deal. It is to gain the interest of other teams, and try to force them to offer even more for the pick on draft day (if we even get that far with the pick).

[SkinsTillIDie]

Here were some of the players we worked out last year, according to KFFL. As you can imagine, we will be linked to MANY, MANY players in the coming weeks. We will explore all of our options before making a pick that could theoretically change the fate of the franchise.

Also, bear in mind that you can never, ever trust anything that Joe Gibbs says. See below.

http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl

Redskins | Team had pre-draft workout with Baugher
Sat, 29 Apr 2006 06:23:08 -0700

John Moredich, of the Tucson Citizen, reports Arizona P Danny Baugher had a pre-draft individual workout with the Washington Redskins. If he's not picked, Baugher might be best served to sign a free agent deal immediately after the NFL Draft's conclusion.

Redskins | Team worked out Plackemeier
Sat, 29 Apr 2006 00:33:37 -0700

Dan Collins, of the Winston-Salem Journal, reports Wake Forest P Ryan Plackemeier worked out individually for the Washington Redskins. The Redskins are showing particular interest in him.

Redskins | Team showing interest in N. Reid
Fri, 28 Apr 2006 23:29:30 -0700

The Wichita Eagle reports the Washington Redskins are showing interest in Kansas LB Nick Reid. His 40 time of 4.73 is pretty average. Scouts like his explosion and strong vertical jump.

Redskins | Hartigan works out for team
Fri, 28 Apr 2006 21:13:40 -0700

Kevin McNamara, of the Providence Journal, reports Brown RB Nick Hartigan worked out for the Washington Redskins. He played running back at Brown, but the majority of the NFL sees him as a fullback.

Redskins | Team in position to draft best athlete available
Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:09:18 -0700

Gary Fitzgerald, of Redskins.com, reports Washington Redskins head coach Joe Gibbs has said that the team is not in a position where it needs to draft a player at a particular position. "We feel pretty comfortable with our team and we don't feel any pressure to take any player at a particular spot right now," Gibbs said. "I think we can be kind of comfortable at 53 taking the best athlete. There are probably a couple of spots that we would be reluctant to take--wide receiver being one of them, as an example."

Redskins | E. Nelson impresses during workout
Sun, 23 Apr 2006 19:28:49 -0700

Aaron Wilson, of the Carroll County Times, reports Connecticut TE Ed Nelson impressed scouts with his hands during his workout. One of the teams in attendance was the Washington Redskins.

Redskins | Team conducts pre-draft visit with McIntosh
Sun, 23 Apr 2006 16:47:14 -0700

Paul Strelow, of the Spartanburg Herald-Journal, reports the Washington Redskins conducted a pre-draft visit with Miami LB Rocky McIntosh Friday, April 21.

Redskins | Team worked out J. Lay
Sun, 23 Apr 2006 15:32:49 -0700

Mike Bires, of the Beaver County Times Allegheny Times, reports Pittsburgh CB Josh Lay said he has previously worked out for the Washington Redskins. Lay is expected to be a late-round pick in the NFL Draft.

Redskins | Team conducted pre-draft visit with T. Howard
Wed, 19 Apr 2006 05:39:55 -0700

Howard Bryant, of the Washington Post, reports the Washington Redskins conducted a pre-draft visit with UTEP LB Thomas Howard last week. "There are a lot of good linebackers in the draft," league draft analyst and former Dallas player personnel director Gil Brandt said of Howard. "I don't think he'll be there at 53 (the Redskins first pick in the NFL Draft), but there are a lot outside linebackers in this draft who can run."

Redskins | Team has pre-draft visit with Fasano
Wed, 19 Apr 2006 05:39:27 -0700

Howard Bryant, of the Washington Post, reports the Washington Redskins conducted a pre-draft visit with Notre Dame TE Anthony Fasano Tuesday, April 18. Traditionally, tight ends are not highly coveted in the first round, but with the Redskins' first pick not coming until the second round, 53rd overall, Fasano could be available.

Redskins | Team showing pre-draft interest in Pociask
Mon, 17 Apr 2006 17:40:45 -0700

Wisconsin TE Jason Pociask has received interest from the Washington Redskins, as they have invited him for a pre-draft visit.

Redskins | Cromartie scheduled to visit
Sun, 16 Apr 2006 11:48:09 -0700

Aaron Wilson, of the Carroll County Times, reports Florida State CB Antonio Cromartie is scheduled to visit with the Washington Redskins.

Redskins | Team will have a pre-draft visit with K. Jennings
Sat, 15 Apr 2006 17:50:58 -0700

Miami CB Kelly Jennings said in his NFL.com NFL Draft diary he will have a pre-draft visit with the Washington Redskins Monday, April 17.

Redskins | Team to have a pre-draft visit with D. Ryans
Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:07:58 -0700

Ryan O'Halloran, of the Washington Times, reports a source said Alabama LB DeMeco Ryans is expected to visit with the Washington Redskins. Ryans, 6-foot-1 and 236 pounds, is projected by some as a late first-round pick in the NFL Draft.

Redskins | Team to have pre-draft visit with Montgomery
Mon, 10 Apr 2006 16:36:58 -0700

Joe Palumbo has confirmed to KFFL Minnesota DT Anthony Montgomery will have a pre-draft visit with the Washington Redskins next week.

Redskins | Void works out for team
Fri, 7 Apr 2006 19:41:22 -0700

Gary Fitzgerald, of Redskins.com, reports Purdue RB Jerod Void worked out or was in attendance for the Washington Redskins' local workout for draft-eligible players Friday, April 7.

Redskins | Pruitt works out for team
Fri, 7 Apr 2006 19:41:05 -0700

Gary Fitzgerald, of Redskins.com, reports Syracuse LB Kellen Pruitt worked out or was in attendance for the Washington Redskins' local workout for draft-eligible players Friday, April 7.

Redskins | W. Montgomery works out for team
Fri, 7 Apr 2006 19:40:50 -0700

Gary Fitzgerald, of Redskins.com, reports Virginia Tech OL Will Montgomery worked out or was in attendance for the Washington Redskins' local workout for draft-eligible players Friday, April 7.

Redskins | Imoh works out for team
Fri, 7 Apr 2006 19:39:48 -0700

Gary Fitzgerald, of Redskins.com, reports Virginia Tech RB Mike Imoh worked out or was in attendance for the Washington Redskins' local workout for draft-eligible players Friday, April 7.

Redskins | Ferguson works out for team
Fri, 7 Apr 2006 19:38:48 -0700

Gary Fitzgerald, of Redskins.com, reports Temple RB Umar Ferguson worked out or was in attendance for the Washington Redskins' local workout for draft-eligible players Friday, April 7.

Redskins | J. Walker works out for team
Fri, 7 Apr 2006 19:38:28 -0700

Gary Fitzgerald, of Redskins.com, reports Maryland WR Jo Jo Walker worked out or was in attendance for the Washington Redskins' local workout for draft-eligible players Friday, April 7.

Redskins | Miller works out for team
Fri, 7 Apr 2006 19:36:33 -0700

Gary Fitzgerald, of Redskins.com, reports Maryland TE Derrick Miller worked out or was in attendance for the Washington Redskins' local workout for draft-eligible players Friday, April 7.

Redskins | Merrills works out for team
Fri, 7 Apr 2006 19:36:10 -0700

Gary Fitzgerald, of Redskins.com, reports Maryland RB Mario Merrills worked out or was in attendance for the Washington Redskins' local workout for draft-eligible players Friday, April 7.

Redskins | Fenner works out for team
Fri, 7 Apr 2006 19:35:51 -0700

Gary Fitzgerald, of Redskins.com, reports Maryland WR Derrick Fenner worked out or was in attendance for the Washington Redskins' local workout for draft-eligible players Friday, April 7.

Redskins | Dickerson works out for team
Fri, 7 Apr 2006 19:35:29 -0700

Gary Fitzgerald, of Redskins.com, reports Maryland RB Ricardo Dickerson worked out or was in attendance for the Washington Redskins' local workout for draft-eligible players Friday, April 7.

Redskins | M. Brown works out for team
Fri, 7 Apr 2006 19:35:06 -0700

Gary Fitzgerald, of Redskins.com, reports Howard DL Mike Brown worked out or was in attendance for the Washington Redskins' local workout for draft-eligible players Friday, April 7.

Redskins | Bethea works out for team
Fri, 7 Apr 2006 19:29:48 -0700

Gary Fitzgerald, of Redskins.com, reports Howard S Antoine Bethea worked out or was in attendance for the Washington Redskins' local workout for draft-eligible players Friday, April 7.

Redskins | G. McPhearson works out for team
Fri, 7 Apr 2006 19:27:10 -0700

Gary Fitzgerald, of Redskins.com, reports Maryland CB Gerrick McPhearson worked out for the Washington Redskins Friday, April 7.

Redskins | D. Jackson works out for team
Fri, 7 Apr 2006 19:26:37 -0700

Gary Fitzgerald, of Redskins.com, reports Maryland LB D'Qwell Jackson worked out for the Washington Redskins Friday, April 7.

[tizzod]

At the very least, its pissing off Jason Campbell. Skins are retarded.

Sometimes I can't figure out what planet you people are on. So I just smile to myself, shake my head, and move on.