Articles of Impeachment To Be Filed On Cheney

[Sarge]

Well, that took the loons all of four months :rolleyes:


http://blog.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2007/04/articles_of_impeachment_to_be.html


Looks like he's reached his boiling point.

Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio), the most liberal of the Democratic presidential candidates in the primary field, declared in a letter sent to his Democratic House colleagues this morning that he plans to file articles of impeachment against Vice President Dick Cheney.

Kucinich has made ending the war in Iraq the central theme of his campaign. He has even taken aim at the leading Democratic presidential candidates in the field for their votes on authorizing the war.


Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution gives Congress the authority to impeach the president, vice president and "all civil Officers of the United States" for "treason, bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."

Sources tell the Sleuth that in light of the mass killings at Virginia Tech Monday, Kucinich's impeachment plans have been put on hold. There will be no action this week, they say.

Kucinich's office had no comment on the Congressman's "Dear Colleague" letter -- which apparently was drafted over the weekend, before the school massacre -- or on what the focus of articles of impeachment against Cheney would be.

But Kucinich shouldn't hold his breath on getting anywhere with his impeachment plan. "We'll see a Kucinich Administration before we'll see a Cheney impeachment," quipped one Democratic aide.


Here is the text of his letter, a copy of which was forwarded to the Sleuth:


April 17, 2007


Dear Colleague:

This week I intend to introduce Articles of Impeachment with respect to the conduct of Vice President Cheney. Please have your staff contact my office . . . if you would like to receive a confidential copy of the document prior to its introduction in the House.


Sincerely,

/s/

Dennis J. Kucinich

Member of Congress

[portisizzle]

Exactly what I expected from the Democrats.

Not a change in the direction of this country and doing the work of the people.

No, just politics as usual.

[Prosperity]

how about reading something past the title? Like the article maybe?

[Sarge]

how about reading something past the title? Like the article maybe?

What's missing? He's going to introduce articles of impeachment. Won't go anywhere, but I'll bet you there will be at least 30-40 loon Dems that sign on

[Prosperity]

Damn right its HE not the Dems as a body. Its a campaign ploy for Dennis Kucinich not the Democratic party.

[Burgold]

I think Liberty makes a good point. Before we go into super-spin hate mode (on either side) we should wait til something is actually done, see if it has any support, and what the grounds are. This pre-emptive anti-democrat spin for something that hasn't occurred and may not occur or may be laughed at is a wee bit premature.

[portisizzle]

I think Liberty makes a good point. Before we go into super-spin hate mode (on either side) we should wait til something is actually done, see if it has any support, and what the grounds are. This pre-emptive anti-democrat spin for something that hasn't occurred and may not occur or may be laughed at is a wee bit premature.


Yea, throw as much mud at the Republicans and see how much might stick. Politics as usual.

[Burgold]

That's an interesting spin on my call for reason versus political hatchetry, sizzle. :laugh: Perception is an amazing thing. I'm guessing that Kucinnich is pretty much on his own on this. We haven't read much impeachment talk until this and this is a pretty vague, undetailed about a plan by one man that was never executed.

[portisizzle]

That's an interesting spin on my call for reason versus political hatchetry, sizzle. :laugh:

I am not running for office. :)

[twa]

Reading the comments at the link is hilarious and disturbing at the same time.

[techboy]

...one man that was never executed.

Give Sarge time. ;)

In the meantime, may I recommend this book (http://books.google.com/books?id=c3ETv37GqfcC&dq=eats+shoots+and+leaves&pg=PP1&ots=TpY9IbsMg-&sig=uouU-IVF6Xy-iu5VPxKgDRY5g0w&prev=http://www.google.com/search%3Fhl%3Den%26q%3Deats%2Bshoots%2Band%2Bleave s&sa=X&oi=print&ct=title)? ;)

[Sarge]

Damn right its HE not the Dems as a body. Its a campaign ploy for Dennis Kucinich not the Democratic party.


Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio),

[skinsfan44]

Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution gives Congress the authority to impeach the president, vice president and "all civil Officers of the United States" for "treason, bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."


Well then, is Dennis Kucinich going to do the same thing to Nancy Pelosi for her trip to Syria???

[China]

Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio),

So if he goes on a killing spree, is he doing it on behalf of all democrats?

[mboyd784]

"Loons"...LOL, they really do stand out in the crowd.

[Buford]

The best thing for the Dems is to have Dick out there saying he knows stuff the 9/11 Commish, and the President don't about a Saddam 9/11 connection.

Question should be, once he's out of office. Can he be charged with any crimes he committed by the next admin? Republican or Dem?

[Kilmer17]

I hope this gets some traction and becomes the story for the summer months.

[Duckus]

Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio),

Wow – that is an amazing argument you have there. But let us use the theory of yours, which is: Those on the far fringe (right or left) of a party speak for the ENTIRE party based solely on their party affiliation.

Answer me this then:

Why do those crazy loon Republicans not support the War in Iraq? How can you support a party that does not support the troops?

“There will not be a military solution to Iraq,” Mr. Hagel

Voted – FOR WITHDRAW

Senator Hagel R – Nebraska

Explain – since Mr. Hagel, according to your theory here, represents the entire Republican Party.

[Sarge]

Wow – that is an amazing argument you have there. But let us use the theory of yours, which is: Those on the far fringe (right or left) of a party speak for the ENTIRE party based solely on their party affiliation.

Answer me this then:

Why do those crazy loon Republicans not support the War in Iraq? How can you support a party that does not support the troops?

“There will not be a military solution to Iraq,” Mr. Hagel

Voted – FOR WITHDRAW

Senator Hagel R – Nebraska

Explain – since Mr. Hagel, according to your theory here, represents the entire Republican Party.

Hagel is no longer in the majority

Face it, Dems just can't help themselves. They have to act like loons, even though they don't want to. It's their base nature. If they thought they could get away with it and the American people wouldn't have their asses, they'd vote to impeach both Bush an Cheney in a heartbeat

[Duckus]

Hagel is no longer in the majority

Face it, Dems just can't help themselves. They have to act like loons, even though they don't want to. It's their base nature. If they thought they could get away with it and the American people wouldn't have their asses, they'd vote to impeach both Bush an Cheney in a heartbeat

You did not answer the question.

Your argument is that a single person – BEFORE one person has signed on to support it AT ALL – speaks for the entire party and people who support the party.

Therefore, Mr. Hagel speaks for the Republicans and yourself. Honestly, I thought you supported our troops but I guess not, you tree hugger.

Your argument is flawed and weak.

[mboyd784]

Hagel is no longer in the majority

Face it, Dems just can't help themselves. They have to act like loons, even though they don't want to. It's their base nature. If they thought they could get away with it and the American people wouldn't have their asses, they'd vote to impeach both Bush an Cheney in a heartbeat

Rosie for President!

[Buford]

Word to the wise.

Whatever Sarge suggests is happening, assume the opposite.

Crazy Nancy and Reid are blowing out the Admin in recent polls. Something even the previously run congress couldn't do against the Prez.

Even higher than the 94 GOP blowout at this point in their running the show.

So, while Sarge might want you to believe that a jerk like Kucinich is the voice of the Dems. When presented with the exactly reason why he's wrong. He just get slapped to the ground.

[Kilmer17]

Word to the wise.

Whatever Sarge suggests is happening, assume the opposite.

Crazy Nancy and Reid are blowing out the Admin in recent polls. Something even the previously run congress couldn't do against the Prez.

Even higher than the 94 GOP blowout at this point in their running the show.

So, while Sarge might want you to believe that a jerk like Kucinich is the voice of the Dems. When presented with the exactly reason why he's wrong. He just get slapped to the ground.


ASsuming those polls are accurate, I wonder why we havent seen major pieces of legislation enacted. In fact, I wonder why we havent seen A SINGLE piece of legislation enacted.

Anyone????????

[Sarge]

Word to the wise.

Whatever Sarge suggests is happening, assume the opposite.

Crazy Nancy and Reid are blowing out the Admin in recent polls. Something even the previously run congress couldn't do against the Prez.

Even higher than the 94 GOP blowout at this point in their running the show.

So, while Sarge might want you to believe that a jerk like Kucinich is the voice of the Dems. When presented with the exactly reason why he's wrong. He just get slapped to the ground.

Actually, Congresss right now is polling LOWER than the prez. Unless the poll was conducted in ChomWorld

That would be under a 33% approval rating BTW

[DCsportsfan53]

Hagel is no longer in the majority

Face it, Dems just can't help themselves. They have to act like loons, even though they don't want to. It's their base nature. If they thought they could get away with it and the American people wouldn't have their asses, they'd vote to impeach both Bush an Cheney in a heartbeat


As much as I dislike this adminsitration, as much as I think they've done plenty of illegal and shady things, as much as I think their incompotence borders on treasonous, I don't want them impeached. It's just no the right road to go down. The Repubs wanted revenge for Nixon for a long time and they got it by impeaching Clinton for a blowjob. I don't want the Dems to stoop to that level. I don't want every president lying, bull****ing and covering their past MORE than they already do because they're paranoid they'll be impeached for stupid ****. When there's real evidence of real crimes against the country, then I'm for it. We do not want to go down this road, though, it's a dangerous one to travel.

[Cdowwe]

Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio),

The shame of Ohio, behind every Dem city council member/mayor running Cincinnnati

[Sarge]

You did not answer the question.

Your argument is that a single person – BEFORE one person has signed on to support it AT ALL – speaks for the entire party and people who support the party.

Therefore, Mr. Hagel speaks for the Republicans and yourself. Honestly, I thought you supported our troops but I guess not, you tree hugger.

Your argument is flawed and weak.

Let's wait and see how many loon Dems sign on. I'll bet you right now no Repubs sign up

[smalex41]

Well, that took the loons all of four months :rolleyes:


http://blog.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2007/04/articles_of_impeachment_to_be.html


Looks like he's reached his boiling point.

Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio), the most liberal of the Democratic presidential candidates in the primary field, declared in a letter sent to his Democratic House colleagues this morning that he plans to file articles of impeachment against Vice President Dick Cheney.

Kucinich has made ending the war in Iraq the central theme of his campaign. He has even taken aim at the leading Democratic presidential candidates in the field for their votes on authorizing the war.


Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution gives Congress the authority to impeach the president, vice president and "all civil Officers of the United States" for "treason, bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."

Sources tell the Sleuth that in light of the mass killings at Virginia Tech Monday, Kucinich's impeachment plans have been put on hold. There will be no action this week, they say.

Kucinich's office had no comment on the Congressman's "Dear Colleague" letter -- which apparently was drafted over the weekend, before the school massacre -- or on what the focus of articles of impeachment against Cheney would be.

But Kucinich shouldn't hold his breath on getting anywhere with his impeachment plan. "We'll see a Kucinich Administration before we'll see a Cheney impeachment," quipped one Democratic aide.


Here is the text of his letter, a copy of which was forwarded to the Sleuth:


April 17, 2007


Dear Colleague:

This week I intend to introduce Articles of Impeachment with respect to the conduct of Vice President Cheney. Please have your staff contact my office . . . if you would like to receive a confidential copy of the document prior to its introduction in the House.


Sincerely,

/s/

Dennis J. Kucinich

Member of CongressI have always been suspicious of Cheney and the entire staff at the White House. Their performances have been abysmal and their knack for "deceit" has been obvious. It will be one of my happiests days on this earth when all of them finally depart. The entire lot has systematically placed our country in "dire straits", our once held prestige has diminished on the worlds stage and they will be leaving us in "shambles". They have all "fattened their pockets" and in turn will be laughing while going to the bank. Have you checked the gasoline prices lately? Have you seen any withdrawal proposals from the middle east? Have you witnessed any apparent desires from this administration to abide by the "overwhelming wishes" of our nation?
The arrogance of this administration is appalling and in truth. " I hope all of them will rot in hell" :mad:

[Sarge]

As much as I dislike this adminsitration, as much as I think they've done plenty of illegal and shady things, as much as I think their incompotence borders on treasonous, I don't want them impeached. It's just no the right road to go down. The Repubs wanted revenge for Nixon for a long time and they got it by impeaching Clinton for a blowjob. I don't want the Dems to stoop to that level. I don't want every president lying, bull****ing and covering their past MORE than they already do because they're paranoid they'll be impeached for stupid ****. When there's real evidence of real crimes against the country, then I'm for it. We do not want to go down this road, though, it's a dangerous one to travel.


Again, he was not impeached for a blowjob. He was impeached for perjury

[81artmonk]

That's an interesting spin on my call for reason versus political hatchetry, sizzle. :laugh: Perception is an amazing thing. I'm guessing that Kucinnich is pretty much on his own on this. We haven't read much impeachment talk until this and this is a pretty vague, undetailed about a plan by one man that was never executed.


very doubtful. The Libs HATE bush!! it's not just, they disagree with him, there is a real hate. The only reason Pelosi and others haven't done anything as out there as this is that, they don't want to seem too out there!! I've always said that is democrats really stood up and started telling us what they really believed and tried to make it happen, they would never get elected again! that is why they are always about talking and the middle ground!

[mboyd784]

Let's wait and see how many loon Dems sign on. I'll bet you right now no Repubs sign up

3 "loons" and counting!

http://www.majestyofbirds.com/w_CommonLoonCalling_lrg.jpg

[Buford]

Actually, Congresss right now is polling LOWER than the prez. Unless the poll was conducted in ChomWorld

That would be under a 33% approval rating BTW

You must get a turn on by being wrong all the time.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/17/AR2007041701768.html


Solid Poll Numbers For Pelosi, Reid



By Paul Kane and Jon Cohen
Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, April 18, 2007; A21


House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/p000197/) (D-Calif.) and Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/r000146/) (D-Nev.) drew relatively high approval ratings as they passed their 100-day mark as leaders of their chambers, according to the latest Washington Post-ABC News poll.

Pelosi had a job approval rating of 53 percent, according to the nationwide survey of 1,141 adults. That's about where she was in January just after becoming speaker.

Reid came away with 46 percent approving of his leadership of the Senate and 33 percent disapproving.

The poll was conducted last Thursday through Sunday and has a margin of error of plus or minus three percentage points.

There is one red flag in the survey: In January, 25 percent of respondents disapproved of Pelosi's job performance. That has increased to 35 percent.

After three months in office, Pelosi is a dramatically more popular figure than Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) was in late March 1995. Then, nearly three months into his tenure as speaker, Gingrich had pleased just 37 percent with his performance.

Reid lags far behind the Senate majority leader of that era, Robert J. Dole (R-Kan.). In March 1995, Dole's performance had the approval of 60 percent of adults, while 28 percent disapproved.

More broadly, 54 percent approve of how the Democrats in Congress are handling their job. The new majority has a higher approval rating now than the Republican majority had three months after it took over Capitol Hill in 1995, when 45 percent of Americans approved of the GOP's job performance.

But the public is somewhat critical of how much the new Democratic majority has accomplished after three months. Only 26 percent think the current Congress has accomplished "a great deal" or "a good amount." At this time in 1995, 33 percent thought the GOP-led Congress had accomplished that much.

[DCsportsfan53]

Again, he was not impeached for a blowjob. He was impeached for perjury


:rolleyes:


Come on man. Can you honestly tell me that what Clinton did was an impeachable offense? He lied about his personal and family life which had no business being asked about and was of no relevance to begin with. Give me a break. It was a complete and total witch hunt. The repubs were looking desparately for a way to impeach him from the day he set foot in the white house.

[Kilmer17]

"But the public is somewhat critical of how much the new Democratic majority has accomplished after three months. Only 26 percent think the current Congress has accomplished "a great deal" or "a good amount." At this time in 1995, 33 percent thought the GOP-led Congress had accomplished that much. "

[Henry]

"But the public is somewhat critical of how much the new Democratic majority has accomplished after three months. Only 26 percent think the current Congress has accomplished "a great deal" or "a good amount." At this time in 1995, 33 percent thought the GOP-led Congress had accomplished that much. "

So apparently Americans would rather see Dem inaction than GOP action at this point.

[Buford]

So apparently Americans would rather see Dem inaction than GOP action at this point.
That's what you call, grasping at straws.

Numbers are up for their approval. That's the bottom line.

[Hooper]

I have never seen a party as down as the GOP is right now. It really is crazy -- especially when you think about how high the GOP was approval-ratings wise just a couple years ago. I wonder, who do you think wants Bush and Cheney out of office more, the GOP or the Dems?

[Henry]

That's what you call, grasping at straws.

Numbers are up for their approval. That's the bottom line.

Are you saying I'm grasping at straws? I don't think so.

I think the public voted the Dems in on a protest vote. I think the GOP destroyed, mutliated and crushed every scrap of political capital they got from the aftermath of 9/11, while the Dems are still pretty much the same indecisive bunch they've been for years. I think those numbers speak volumes about how the GOP has dug their own grave. I am pretty sure the Dems didn't dig it.

Or are you saying that the notion that Kucinich's actions will spell doom for the Deomcrats grapsing at straws? Yes, I'd agree that that's a reach.

[Buford]

No, not you. The post you were replying to.

[Larry]

So apparently Americans would rather see Dem inaction than GOP action at this point.

That's what I voted for.

Gridlock is good.

[Johnny Punani]

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/p000197/) (D-Calif.) and Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/r000146/) (D-Nev.) drew relatively high approval ratings as they passed their 100-day mark as leaders of their chambers, according to the latest Washington Post-ABC News poll.


53 and 46 percent approval ratings are not "relatively high" unless you are compairing them to Pres Bush. Those numbers are mediocre. :laugh:

[Predicto]

53 and 46 percent approval ratings are not "relatively high" unless you are compairing them to Pres Bush. Those numbers are mediocre. :laugh:


Of course, they were not posted to show that they were so high, they were posted in response to Sarge's claim that the Dems were polling LOWER than Bush.

[Predicto]

ASsuming those polls are accurate, I wonder why we havent seen major pieces of legislation enacted. In fact, I wonder why we havent seen A SINGLE piece of legislation enacted.

Anyone????????


Dang, I'm disappointed in you Kilmer. It took you to page 2 to wheel that out. Usually you manage to get it in within the first 5 or 6 posts.

You're slowing down in your old age, my friend.

[Buford]

Not to mention Johnny doesn't understand the whole part he highlight.

Its relatively high compared to two things.

The GOP in 95 after they took over
The Admin today

What's not relative about it?

[heyholetsgogrant]

I have never seen a party as down as the GOP is right now. It really is crazy -- especially when you think about how high the GOP was approval-ratings wise just a couple years ago. I wonder, who do you think wants Bush and Cheney out of office more, the GOP or the Dems?


To be honest, I think the Republicans need him to go more. The Dems need someone to kick around untill 08.

-Grant

[Kilmer17]

Dang, I'm disappointed in you Kilmer. It took you to page 2 to wheel that out. Usually you manage to get it in within the first 5 or 6 posts.

You're slowing down in your old age, my friend.


Im slacking!

Busy day.

[TMK9973]

For congress, 53% is very high. Ussally, for congress, there is about 10 - 20% that don't approve or dissapprove. In this case - it says 53% approve, 35% disapprove.

That's is HUGE.
If that was a election - it would be a landslide.

Now -Sarges point that the "Loons" are out there talking impeachment - well - I don't want to see impeachment used. He's out in less then 2 years anyway and is already a lame duck with no political capital.

However -The latest newsweek polls show that 58% of americans want Bush's presidency to be over. Now - That is not the same as impeachment, but I don't think Bush is going ot get sympathoy.

What's his approval rateing nows? It's in the 20's isn't it?

[Buford]

No, it ranges from the low to mid 30's I believe.

[Buford]

http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm

[btfoom]

I think Liberty makes a good point. Before we go into super-spin hate mode (on either side) we should wait til something is actually done, see if it has any support, and what the grounds are. This pre-emptive anti-democrat spin for something that hasn't occurred and may not occur or may be laughed at is a wee bit premature.

Actually, I laughed at this pretty hard:

A reporter from the Cleveland Plain Dealer encouraged USS Kucinich to contact planet Earth. "But Nancy Pelosi says this is not going anywhere," she pointed out.

"Have you talked to her today?" Kucinich shot back.

"Yes, I did," she replied.

Kucinich had not expected that answer. "Then I would say I have not talked to her," he acknowledged.


It was not an auspicious beginning for the impeachment of Richard B. Cheney.


Rest of story:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/24/AR2007042402341_2.html

[Predicto]

Actually, I laughed at this pretty hard:

A reporter from the Cleveland Plain Dealer encouraged USS Kucinich to contact planet Earth. "But Nancy Pelosi says this is not going anywhere," she pointed out.

"Have you talked to her today?" Kucinich shot back.

"Yes, I did," she replied.

Kucinich had not expected that answer. "Then I would say I have not talked to her," he acknowledged.


It was not an auspicious beginning for the impeachment of Richard B. Cheney.


Rest of story:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/24/AR2007042402341_2.html

hahaha.

Hey wait - I thought Pelosi was behind this. Sarge told me so!