Can anyone or everyone that makes wallpapers make me one with this pic?

[c4man5282]

i know this isn't redskins related but this guy is my friend and was wondering if anyone/everyone that makes wallpapers make me one with these pics please....thanks ahead of time! His name is Lang Campbell and plays for the Austin Wrangles in the AFL.

http://www.austinwranglers.com//pics18/1024/XO/XOJXRXNWENFXCPA.20070325223216.jpg

http://www.austinwranglers.com//pics13/1024/ZP/ZPNSDAJQQRKZQCB.20070325223201.jpg

[MeNoRevs]

$5.00 I will.

[skinfan2k]

$5.00 I will.

boo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :(

[MeNoRevs]

boo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :(

What are you booing about? If you want to do it for free for him, do it, but you dont have to come up in my post like a 15 year old girl that her boyfriend just cheated on her.

Have fun making him one.

[InsaneBoost]

What are you booing about? If you want to do it for free for him, do it, but you dont have to come up in my post like a 15 year old girl that her boyfriend just cheated on her.

Have fun making him one.

LOL, very true.


InsaneBoost > Meno!

[skinfan2k]

What are you booing about? If you want to do it for free for him, do it, but you dont have to come up in my post like a 15 year old girl that her boyfriend just cheated on her.

Have fun making him one.

you obviously think ur the best at making sig and charging people.. other people would be gladly do it

[InsaneBoost]

you obviously think ur the best at making sig and charging people.. other people would be gladly do it

Meno is pretty badass at stuff, probably one of the best on this forum, so I wouldn't say anything bad about that.


I have never seen his wallpapers so I cant say hes badass there.


As for free, you gotta understand man, making sigs / wallpapers isn't easy and isn't fast, it does take some time unless you want it to look like ****, so you gotta have time and patience.

[Winning Season Please!]

you obviously think ur the best at making sig and charging people.. other people would be gladly do it

His name isn't MeNo for nothing.

[MeNoRevs]

you obviously think ur the best at making sig and charging people.. other people would be gladly do it

I think my time and effort is worth something. Thats what I think.

[skinsfan07]

I'll do it for free. Give me a week or so.

[MeNoRevs]

Meno is pretty badass at stuff, probably one of the best on this forum, so I wouldn't say anything bad about that.


I have never seen his wallpapers so I cant say hes badass there.


As for free, you gotta understand man, making sigs / wallpapers isn't easy and isn't fast, it does take some time unless you want it to look like ****, so you gotta have time and patience.

Sigs take not much time, a day for me, but wallpapers, thats a different story.

Anyone that rushes to do things, usually turn out like poo. If I am going to spend a couple days making something for someone, then I expect to get something in return.

If he wanted, I could put watermarks all over it and if he didnt want it, he didnt have to pay. But just like a regular artist, he is not going to paint something for free for someone.

[MeNoRevs]

I'll do it for free. Give me a week or so.

I hope you can find something to steal in a week. Good luck.

[skinsfan07]

I hope you can find something to steal in a week. Good luck.

I hope you know I can make walls and do decent artwork. This walls gonna be good.

BTW you can't make walls. I can.

I guess some people just can't get over things. It's not like I stole everything I said I made, I stole one thing. Not that big a deal.

Get over it.

BTW, no one charges for artwork. It is out of courtesy *******.

[InsaneBoost]

Wait wait, stealing, woah woah woah, what the hell is this about.

[MeNoRevs]

I hope you know I can make walls and do decent artwork. This walls gonna be good.

BTW you can't make walls. I can.

I guess some people just can't get over things. It's not like I stole everything I said I made, I stole one thing. Not that big a deal.

Get over it.

BTW, no one charges for artwork. It is out of courtesy *******.

Well I think your stuff is not very good, but thats a matter of opinion. You put video on stuff, wow.

You are right, I can't make walls :rofl:

You stole 2 things. The gilbert sig and the campbell sig numnuts

BTW, I charge for artwork. Some people do it out of courtesy, some people do it for profit. I believe my stuff is worth someone paying for, its up to them if they want to pay or not. Even in the Sweet Sassy Mollasy sticky thread, he charges, and one of the mods backed him up saying its a great deal. I guess no one does it huh?

[MeNoRevs]

Wait wait, stealing, woah woah woah, what the hell is this about.

Youngin's started asking people to give him props on sig he made, and I called him out because I know the people that actually made those sigs. He just put his video over top of it :rofl:

I dont know what thread it is in, but its in this forum, you can probably do a search and catch up.

[jrockster21]

$5.00 I will.

You are the stingiest, cheapest dude I have ever met. $5? Are you for real?


I think my time and effort is worth something. Thats what I think.

Worth something, yeah...a happy meal? If what you say is true, and a wallpaper would take you more than one day...are you seriously saying you're worth cents an hour? :laugh: I mean, I don't want to be insensitive, but $5? That's an insulting amount of money. That's worth roughly 6 minutes of my time. Maybe $5 is worth more to you than most people, I don't know. Maybe you honestly don't understand that charging something trivial like that is an insult. :whoknows:


Even in the Sweet Sassy Mollasy sticky thread, he charges, and one of the mods backed him up saying its a great deal. I guess no one does it huh?

SSM was volunteering to make the sigs...if you read closely (concentrate, you can do it) it says the profits go towards the maintenance of the site. Before this was run by the Redskins, ES was run out of pocket by DH and Blade, and from a lot of donations.

SSM = volunteering his time for a good cause.
You = charging a pittance for the sole purpose of charging him, just to say you did.

HUGE difference.

[MeNoRevs]

You are the stingiest, cheapest dude I have ever met. $5? Are you for real?



Worth something, yeah...a happy meal? If what you say is true, and a wallpaper would take you more than one day...are you seriously saying you're worth cents an hour? :laugh: I mean, I don't want to be insensitive, but $5? That's an insulting amount of money. That's worth roughly 6 minutes of my time. Maybe $5 is worth more to you than most people, I don't know. Maybe you honestly don't understand that charging something trivial like that is an insult. :whoknows:



SSM was volunteering to make the sigs...if you read closely (concentrate, you can do it) it says the profits go towards the maintenance of the site. Before this was run by the Redskins, ES was run out of pocket by DH and Blade, and from a lot of donations.

SSM = volunteering his time for a good cause.
You = charging a pittance for the sole purpose of charging him, just to say you did.

HUGE difference.

yea, 5$ I am real. You dont even know me son and I already have risen to the top of your list. I take that as an honor, thank you.

He doesnt have to pay, he can have someone else do it, im not forcing him to pay me. He can have someone like you make him something and replace it with something in a couple weeks.

5$ could get me a happy meal, as we know that you have had your share of them. Charging 5$ for something like this comes out to be more then 0$ an hour. You got to set a price on what you think someone is willing to pay for this. What if I said 25, or 50. Is someone going to pay that much for a wallpaper, no. Why not get "something" out of it. Every little adds up. and 5$ is worth 6 minutes of your time, I hope they get their money back then. Talk about a ripoff. I was trying to offer him something where he would get a nice looking product without having to pay a lot of money for. I am not trying to make a living from doing this kinda work.

I know what SSM was charging for, but that has nothing to do with what was mentioned before about paying someone for a sig, compared to getting the software, learning the software, and come up with something creative, instead of putting an image on the screen and putting another one and fade it like you do. It does take talent to come up with something that is eye pleasing.

But thanks for your 2 cents, if you have any change left over, you can send it to my paypal account, I will be able to get that happy meal one of these days. You should step up and be the man and make him one for free. He would appreciate it.

[praise_gibbs]

You know...



Beer is great!

[MeNoRevs]

You know...



Beer is great!

it always comes back to alcohol with you :) I like your thinking, to bad I dont drink :(

[jrockster21]

5$ could get me a happy meal, as we know that you have had your share of them. Charging 5$ for something like this comes out to be more then 0$ an hour. You got to set a price on what you think someone is willing to pay for this. What if I said 25, or 50. Is someone going to pay that much for a wallpaper, no.

Whoah! You're stunning me with those fantastic math skills. :laugh: $5 turns out to be more than $0...wow. Who knew? That might change the world - you're going to be famous for that find!


Why not get "something" out of it. Every little adds up. and 5$ is worth 6 minutes of your time, I hope they get their money back then. Talk about a ripoff. I was trying to offer him something where he would get a nice looking product without having to pay a lot of money for. I am not trying to make a living from doing this kinda work.

Because maybe some people aren't cheapskates? Its called being generous. This is a community; you help people out.

PS - I don't do graphics work for a living, and my time spent working is spent productively.


I know what SSM was charging for, but that has nothing to do with what was mentioned before about paying someone for a sig, compared to getting the software, learning the software, and come up with something creative, instead of putting an image on the screen and putting another one and fade it like you do. It does take talent to come up with something that is eye pleasing.

Uhh, yeah. It has everything to do with it. SSM was charging a nominal fee to help support this site - meaning he was NOT getting "something" out of it, except knowing he was helping this site out. You are charging a meaningless $5 (at least I hope so, sorry if not). Its called being greedy.

And continue to insult my graphics work, the thing I picked up less than a year ago, and do for a hobby. My regular job pays the bills, thank you very much, so I don't think I'm going to switch careers any time soon. Your artwork is better than mine (I'd hope so, if this is your livelihood). Happy now? Has your ego been stroked enough? :doh: You're still greedy.


But thanks for your 2 cents, if you have any change left over, you can send it to my paypal account, I will be able to get that happy meal one of these days. You should step up and be the man and make him one for free. He would appreciate it.

:laugh: That was actually pretty funny. Too bad its not for the reasons you think. :laugh:

[Obibyn23]

Can I get your change after you buy that happy meal? Trying to get a 4 piece nugget and some sweet tea if I have enough left over.

[praise_gibbs]

it always comes back to alcohol with you :) I like your thinking, to bad I dont drink :(

What Pro Shop guy doesnt drink? You suck at life, bro. :silly:




;)




As for Jrock. He doesn't give up in a debate on these here internets.





We have had our battles.. haven't we, J? :silly:

[MeNoRevs]

Whoah! You're stunning me with those fantastic math skills. :laugh: $5 turns out to be more than $0...wow. Who knew? That might change the world - you're going to be famous for that find!



Because maybe some people aren't cheapskates? Its called being generous. This is a community; you help people out.

PS - I don't do graphics work for a living, and my time spent working is spent productively.



Uhh, yeah. It has everything to do with it. SSM was charging a nominal fee to help support this site - meaning he was NOT getting "something" out of it, except knowing he was helping this site out. You are charging a meaningless $5 (at least I hope so, sorry if not). Its called being greedy.

And continue to insult my graphics work, the thing I picked up less than a year ago, and do for a hobby. My regular job pays the bills, thank you very much, so I don't think I'm going to switch careers any time soon. Your artwork is better than mine (I'd hope so, if this is your livelihood). Happy now? Has your ego been stroked enough? :doh: You're still greedy.



:laugh: That was actually pretty funny. Too bad its not for the reasons you think. :laugh:

Dude, im a network engineer, this is something I do for a hobby also. If you think im being greedy, or not willing to help the "community" out, so be it, but your opinion does not matter to me, and I hope mine doesnt matter to yours. But 1 thing about this community, I never been kicked out.

[MeNoRevs]

Can I get your change after you but that happy meal? Trying to get a 4 piece nugget and some sweet tea if I have enough left over.

That sweet tea is addicting. If you pay pal me 4 bucks, I will send you a gallon of it :)

[jrockster21]

As for Jrock. He doesn't give up in a debate on these here internets.

We have had our battles.. haven't we, J? :silly:

I'm an e-gladiator. And you know this, MAN! :silly:


Dude, im a network engineer, this is something I do for a hobby also. If you think im being greedy, or not willing to help the "community" out, so be it, but your opinion does not matter to me, and I hope mine doesnt matter to yours. But 1 thing about this community, I never been kicked out.

:laugh: You're a network engineer charging $5 for a wallpaper. Damn dude....times must be rough in network engineering land. :laugh:

[MeNoRevs]

What Pro Shop guy doesnt drink? You suck at life, bro. :silly:




;)




As for Jrock. He doesn't give up in a debate on these here internets.





We have had our battles.. haven't we, J? :silly:

I do it as a hobby, maybe in a couple years, the shop will be mine, then I will start drinking, anything you recommend.

I know about Jrock all to well. He has sent me a nice little PM before saying how my life sucks, etc.

[MeNoRevs]

I'm an e-gladiator. And you know this, MAN! :silly:



:laugh: You're a network engineer charging $5 for a wallpaper. Damn dude....times must be rough in network engineering land. :laugh:

Never rough times to make an extra buck. I am married you know, I need all the help I can get.

[praise_gibbs]

I do it as a hobby, maybe in a couple years, the shop will be mine, then I will start drinking, anything you recommend.

I know about Jrock all to well. He has sent me a nice little PM before saying how my life sucks, etc.


I worked the shop as a hobby for a little while... Now, I am getting serious about it. This is my 6th year now... I am gaining all the info possible now and then perhaps open my own pro shop. Who knows.


As for alkeehall.. I'd recommend Mr. Jack Daniels... A good buddy of mine. Or just a simple Stella Artois. Depends on the mood.

[MeNoRevs]

I worked the shop as a hobby for a little while... Now, I am getting serious about it. This is my 6th year now... I am gaining all the info possible now and then perhaps open my own pro shop. Who knows.


As for alkeehall.. I'd recommend Mr. Jack Daniels... A good buddy of mine. Or just a simple Stella Artois. Depends on the mood.


cool, well if you ever need any help or information about anything, you can ask me. I been around to many of the guru's in the bowling industry for a while now. From 18 - 23 I worked over 40 hours a week sniffing ball dust, rofl

[praise_gibbs]

cool, well if you ever need any help or information about anything, you can ask me. I been around to many of the guru's in the bowling industry for a while now. From 18 - 23 I worked over 40 hours a week sniffing ball dust, rofl


I know all too well. :silly:


I'll tell you what is a hot thing right now in my house... The pin axis drilling. I have had one guy roll his second 300 with it during the King of the Hill... as well as another guy during his regular league. Minimal flare with a consistent motion to the pocket.. All you need is dry outsides with a dry backend.. the ball just crawls to the pocket. It is up to you to carry.

[praise_gibbs]

cool, well if you ever need any help or information about anything, you can ask me. I been around to many of the guru's in the bowling industry for a while now. From 18 - 23 I worked over 40 hours a week sniffing ball dust, rofl


I know all too well. :silly:


I'll tell you what is a hot thing right now in my house... The pin axis drilling. I have had one guy roll his second 300 with it during the King of the Hill... as well as another guy during his regular league. Minimal flare with a consistent motion to the pocket.. All you need is dry outsides with a dry backend.. the ball just crawls to the pocket. It is up to you to carry.

[MeNoRevs]

I know all too well. :silly:


I'll tell you what is a hot thing right now in my house... The pin axis drilling. I have had one guy roll his second 300 with it during the King of the Hill... as well as another guy during his regular league. Minimal flare with a consistent motion to the pocket.. All you need is dry outsides with a dry backend.. the ball just crawls to the pocket. It is up to you to carry.

Sounds like you have lots of lane1 jocks in your shop. Pin axis is great if you have extreme wet dry. Carry depends on getting the ball to the right breakpoint. Whats popular here is anything made by ebonite and rico drillings.

Its funny, people are cutting down on flare, when before, you wanted the ball to flare as much as possible. The cores and coverstock combinations are getting way to powerful.

[praise_gibbs]

Sounds like you have lots of lane1 jocks in your shop. Pin axis is great if you have extreme wet dry. Carry depends on getting the ball to the right breakpoint. Whats popular here is anything made by ebonite and rico drillings.

Its funny, people are cutting down on flare, when before, you wanted the ball to flare as much as possible. The cores and coverstock combinations are getting way to powerful.


The covers are getting way too damned soft. Prone to damage.


Another perfect drilling for my house is the 315 degree drilling. You need a ball with a pin of less the 1" and kick the MB out at a 315 degree angle. This causes the bowler to have more hold whether he backs out of the ball or ever tends to hit the ball too hard at the bottom of his release. Both drillings call for accuracy. If you miss.. you miss. There is not much recovery.

[MeNoRevs]

The covers are getting way too damned soft. Prone to damage.


Another perfect drilling for my house is the 315 degree drilling. You need a ball with a pin of less the 1" and kick the MB out at a 315 degree angle. This causes the bowler to have more hold whether he backs out of the ball or ever tends to hit the ball too hard at the bottom of his release. Both drillings call for accuracy. If you miss.. you miss. There is not much recovery.

actually all the covers are still measure around 77 on the durometer.

You mean this :)

http://www.rollrite.co.uk/secrets/diag32.jpg

You know what that pretty much is, a full roller leverage drilling :)

[CHUBAKAH]

LMAO @ the graphic guys. Take it to PM guys, and get back on topic.
Everyone in here has their own style.
Thats a good thing.

[MeNoRevs]

LMAO @ the graphic guys. Take it to PM guys, and get back on topic.
Everyone in here had their own style.
Thats a good thing.

Thats all I need, Jrockster to start e thugging me in PM again.

I dont think the discussion was about styles, but about a certain person asking to charge someone to do a wallpaper for them.

It would be a boring world if everyone had one style.

[jrockster21]

LMAO @ the graphic guys. Take it to PM guys, and get back on topic.
Everyone in here had their own style.
Thats a good thing.

You want some too, punk!?!? :redpunch: ;)

I've changed my mind. I will do this wallpaper for the OP, but I'm going to need $3.77 in compensation (beat THAT!). Thanks in advance.

[jrockster21]

Thats all I need, Jrockster to start e thugging me in PM again.

I dont think the discussion was about styles, but about a certain person asking to charge someone to do a wallpaper for them.

It would be a boring world if everyone had one style.


:laugh: Dude, you need to get over yourself. E-thugging you? Wow.

[InsaneBoost]

I sure did miss out a lot over the night :laugh:


Anyways, before this thing gets wild, lets make one thing clear.


I am > than Meno


Thank you!

[skinsfan07]

:laugh: Dude, you need to get over yourself. E-thugging you? Wow.

agreed.

[InsaneBoost]

You pretty much get what you pay for, Meno revs work is worth $5 IMO, but thats just my point of view. Sure you dont want to pay for things, but you gotta understand, you want a legit looking thing etc, well that takes time, time that he could be doing, working on his house, a car, paying bills, etc.

[CHUBAKAH]

You want some too, punk!?!? :redpunch: ;)

Don't make me kick you in the balls!

[InsaneBoost]

Wow, it is CHUBAKAH, the master of us all!

[jrockster21]

You pretty much get what you pay for, Meno revs work is worth $5 IMO, but thats just my point of view. Sure you dont want to pay for things, but you gotta understand, you want a legit looking thing etc, well that takes time, time that he could be doing, working on his house, a car, paying bills, etc.

Here's the thing: Meno's work is probably worth much more than $5. I'm not sure what the entry-level salary of a graphic-artist is these days, but I'm sure Meno could get a job doing that somewhere at the entry-level. So yeah, his work is worth much more than $5. But that's my point...$5 is such a trivial amount of money, its like he's charging just to charge, you know what I'm saying? I don't know...maybe its because I'm older now and I make real money, but charging $5 just seems silly and greedy to me. :whoknows:


Don't make me kick you in the balls!

Ouch! Watch your back, Chewy. Watch your back. :ninja:

[InsaneBoost]

Here's the thing: Meno's work is probably worth much more than $5. I'm not sure what the entry-level salary of a graphic-artist is these days, but I'm sure Meno could get a job doing that somewhere at the entry-level. So yeah, his work is worth much more than $5. But that's my point...$5 is such a trivial amount of money, its like he's charging just to charge, you know what I'm saying? I don't know...maybe its because I'm older now and I make real money, but charging $5 just seems silly and greedy to me. :whoknows:



Not sure, I know a lot of people who do webdesign charge 200+, so I dont know if $5 is to much to ask for a wallpaper. I mean, im not saying its true, but maybe Meno has financial problems, and hes just trying to make little money here and there, I dont know, but anything is possible. I dont charge for my work, only because I dont have much going on right now, but maybe later on I will, who knows.

Most people charge now because, people will ask us to make a sig, so we take our time and patience to make it, and then they'll have a new one the next week, so IMO, I think, why the hell did I take 10min or so out of my time, if you weren't going to use it, but when I have the $5, I can say, well hell, go do what you want, but I have the cash.

[jrockster21]

Not sure, I know a lot of people who do webdesign charge 200+, so I dont know if $5 is to much to ask for a wallpaper. I mean, im not saying its true, but maybe Meno has financial problems, and hes just trying to make little money here and there, I dont know, but anything is possible. I dont charge for my work, only because I dont have much going on right now, but maybe later on I will, who knows.

Most people charge now because, people will ask us to make a sig, so we take our time and patience to make it, and then they'll have a new one the next week, so IMO, I think, why the hell did I take 10min or so out of my time, if you weren't going to use it, but when I have the $5, I can say, well hell, go do what you want, but I have the cash.

:doh: You're not getting it. Re-read my previous post.

[InsaneBoost]

:doh: You're not getting it. Re-read my previous post.

I know what your saying, im just telling you how I feel. I hate when I take time for someone, and then a couple days later they're using something else, it really pisses me off, and makes me not want to do anything for anyone else.

I know Meno could probably make big $$$$ if he went to some graphic place, but who knows.

[CHUBAKAH]

Wow, it is CHUBAKAH, the master of us all!
Easy there Billy, I have two feet.

[InsaneBoost]

Easy there Billy, I have two feet.


LOL, but you are the great one :wink:

But yeah, your sigs kick some ass man, I love your work.

[skinsfan07]

I'm almost done with your wall man. It looks really good right now. And I'll post it in a new thread with all the versions that I made just so Menorevs knows that I MADE IT and doesn't try to accuse me of stealing. LOL

[CHUBAKAH]

LOL, but you are the great one :wink:

But yeah, your sigs kick some ass man, I love your work.
Thanks
Hard to tell if one's being a smart ass.

I'm very guilty of that myself.

[MeNoRevs]

You guys still talking about me :)

I love you all too.

Here is a story I learned a long time ago, if you ask someone if they know what they are doing, and they say no, that usually means they know what they are doing.

Now if you ask someone if they know what they are doing, and they answer yes, then they probably don't. Its fail proof.

Its the same thing on here, if someone says, oh yea, my stuff looks great, it usually means that it doesnt, now if someone said, you know what, my stuff sucks, then yea, its probably the bombdiggity :)

[InsaneBoost]

Lol Meno You Crazy Sob!

[skinsfan07]

all ya'll check out my wall in the graphics section! It's HOTTTTTTTTT!

[Skinz89]

on, a graphics site or some other picture, art site maybe it would be ok to charge someone for some work, but since it's a football site and not so much on graphics it kinda seems a little unfair to assume someone is going to pay for something. oh yeah, the wall looks pretty nice, just a little blurry though, gj

[MeNoRevs]

on, a graphics site or some other picture, art site maybe it would be ok to charge someone for some work, but since it's a football site and not so much on graphics it kinda seems a little unfair to assume someone is going to pay for something. oh yeah, the wall looks pretty nice, just a little blurry though, gj

I just threw it out there, he doesnt have to pay me, but I do not have to do the work either. Its his choice, but there is nothing wrong, unethical, et for asking for something when the person is getting something in return.