AP: Vick Gives $10,000 for Va. Tech Families

[bubba9497]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/18/AR2007041802888_pf.html


Vick Gives $10,000 for Va. Tech Families

The Associated Press
Wednesday, April 18, 2007; 11:03 PM

ATLANTA -- Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick has teamed up with the United Way to donate $10,000 to assist families affected by the massacre at Virginia Tech, his former school.

"When tragic things like this happen, families have enough to deal with, and if I can help in some small way, that's the least I can do," said Vick, who played for the Hokies before being drafted No. 1 overall by the Falcons in 2001.

The Vick Foundation is collecting donations from local communities in both Atlanta and Virginia that will be placed in the United In Caring Fund for Victims of the VA Tech Tragedy and the special fund at the United Way of Montgomery, Radford and Floyd counties, which serves the Virginia Tech area.

Vick's foundation said the money will be used to provide help with funeral expenses, transportation for family members and other support services.

[Hitman#21]

Finally a classy move by Mike Vick.

[909997]

Finally a classy move by Mike Vick.

thats $312 bucks a family:rolleyes:

[Merlin Emrys]

Finally a classy move by Mike Vick.


thats $312 bucks a family:rolleyes:

Yes a commendable move, but only 1 hurndreth of a percent of his $100 million dollar contract.:2cents:

[PSUHeckler]

True, but he still stepped up, hopefully it'll get this foundation rolling

[DonMagicJuan]

yall gettin at him, i mean yeah, it might not be enough but he gave somethign right?

better then nothing as i see it...

[CowboysForLife]

thats $312 bucks a family:rolleyes:

How much did you give? $0 per family? Ok. :rolleyes:

[BAFGA]

According to the news report, the money will go towards helping with funeral expenses, transportation for families and other support services. Those costs add up, and I think this is a nice gesture by Vick to help out.

[HEavyJumbo85]

nice guesture by Vick here, hopefully other athletes and celebrities, especially those who are VT alumi, can get in on this also.

[Veretax]

thats $312 bucks a family:rolleyes:

and thats only if you consider those that got killed. :|

[Mr. S]

How much did you give? $0 per family? Ok. :rolleyes:

how much did you give? Don't blame unnecessarily. Vick makes a helluva lot of money, he definitely does have more to give. Being his alma mater, you'd think he could offer more. Taylor, who doesn't have as much money as Vick, still probably ended up donating that much to his local high school and local community on goodwill alone, not including the sanctioned fines. (Yes I know it is in players' contracts to donate money, but it still says seomthing).

[909997]

How much did you give? $0 per family? Ok. :rolleyes:

hey iam the victim

[eagles78]

How much did you give? $0 per family? Ok. :rolleyes:Give me a break. $10,000 from a man making as much as Vick is almost like an insult.

[TK]

Give me a break. $10,000 from a man making as much as Vick is almost like an insult.
What have you done?

[eagles78]

What have you done?That's not the point. I don't have the means to do anything. Vick has the means and then much, much more......

[Cdowwe]

Im going to try not to disrespect anyone here...but first let me say the 10K will hopefully get others to contribute.

Now the rough part... is the money for burial? Without trying to sound like a complete ****head... those families can probably afford the burials themselves, having a kid in college in the first place.

I could think of alot of ways 10K could go further. I dont know, I always wonder when people donate to families that are grieving, that probably dont need the money. I mean this stuff happens everyday everywhere, and I know Vick went to VT and everything. But it was a classy move.

[smitty71]

Nice gesture on his part! I have not been a fan of his but I respect this.

[smitty71]

Im going to try not to disrespect anyone here...but first let me say the 10K will hopefully get others to contribute.

Now the rough part... is the money for burial? Without trying to sound like a complete ****head... those families can probably afford the burials themselves, having a kid in college in the first place.

I could think of alot of ways 10K could go further. I dont know, I always wonder when people donate to families that are grieving, that probably dont need the money. I mean this stuff happens everyday everywhere, and I know Vick went to VT and everything. But it was a classy move.

Are you kidding me:?! The families can afford it?! That is not the point!

[REEGSKINS]

im sorry but the first thing i thought was that is peanuts to him. its like me donating 2 dollars to my former school. i bet he spends 10,000 at a go go bar on any given night.

[Hokieskins1]

good move mike... very classy

[Sweet Sassy Molassy]

That's a very classy move by Mike. I'm not a fan of his at all, but I gain some respect for him with this. Some of you balking at how much money he gave, need to seriously give the man a break. He gave, it was a nice gesture, and that's all. That's like a homeless man asking a rich man for food, and the rich man buys him a meal from McDonalds, and the homeless responds with, "WTF is this? You can afford a full five course Filet Mignon meal! All I get is this?".

Talk about beggars and choosers. :rolleyes:

[Sinclair]

SSM, I agree with you (good point with the mcd's). Vick gave money, it was a GOOD thing, deal with it guys. If you were making 50k and gave 500 bucks to the vt families wouldn't YOU consider that to be a good thing?

[BAFGA]

That's a very classy move by Mike. I'm not a fan of his at all, but I gain some respect for him with this. Some of you balking at how much money he gave, need to seriously give the man a break. He gave, it was a nice gesture, and that's all. That's like a homeless man asking a rich man for food, and the rich man buys him a meal from McDonalds, and the homeless responds with, "WTF is this? You can afford a full five course Filet Mignon meal! All I get is this?".

Talk about beggars and choosers. :rolleyes:

Agreed. Big time.

[jrockster21]

Yeah...you people need to lighten up. 10K is nothing to sneeze at, regardless if he can afford more.

[REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE]

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:


Great jesture Vick.

[Cdowwe]

Are you kidding me:?! The families can afford it?! That is not the point!

No Im not kidding. But let me add... Im talking about these familes specifically. I guess I mean I dont understand why people give money to families over a lost one. However the money could go to a memorial in this case.

But there are probably instances where the money goes to waste, not in this case specifically.

[APBT]

The ones balking at how much Vick donated need to grow up. He didn't have do anything, but he did!! Where are the other Hokies at?? Why arent they being attcked?

He is still taking donations from his organization.

Some of you guys; Wow.

[The Dude]

To those scoffing at the $10K: how much should he have donated instead?

[Santana_Fan]

That's not the point. I don't have the means to do anything. Vick has the means and then much, much more......


And so does people like Bill Gates...he could have a hell of alot more to offer than anybody on earth, but we have yet to hear about him donating to this situation. Gates donating $1 mill, can probably look like a penny coming from the type of money he makes. Get off of Vick, he donated more than any of us could, and yes, he does have alot more money, but the fact still remains. I know money cant replace a life, but I can almost guarantee they werent complaining about the amount of money Vick gave to them, so why should you?

[HOF44]

And so does people like Bill Gates...he could have a hell of alot more to offer than anybody on earth, but we have yet to hear about him donating.

Ever hear of the Gates Foundation? He has donated billions along with Warren Buffet.

[Santana_Fan]

Ever hear of the Gates Foundation? He has donated billions along with Warren Buffet.


No I mean to this situation...they are on Vick because of the money he donated. If Vick were to retire right now, and try to make a living from the money he makes now...it's not guaranteed he'd make it through...well maybe he could. But Gates, come on now, he can quit right now, sit back and have money for the rest of his life, and his children's children...and on and on.

[HOF44]

No I mean to this situation...they are on Vick because of the money he donated. If Vick were to retire right now, and try to make a living from the money he makes now...he damn sure wouldnt get through. But Gates, come on now, he can quit right now, sit back and have money for the rest of his life, and his children's children...and on and on.

My guess would be that if Gates does give money to this cause no one will ever hear about it.

[APBT]

My guess would be that if Gates does give money to this cause no one will ever hear about it.


Vick gives money every year to his foundation, but we don't hear about that.

I suspect with the recent tragedies that have taken place and the fact that Vick attended VT, this would be why his donation was announced in the news. :)

[OWUeagleMD]

I'm disgusted by the first page of this thread. Charitable donations should never be ridiculed for their value relative to the giver's salary.

A person gave $10,000 to a group of victims in need. There is no bad side to this story.

[Mr. S]

No I mean to this situation...they are on Vick because of the money he donated. If Vick were to retire right now, and try to make a living from the money he makes now...he damn sure wouldnt get through...just maybe he could. But Gates, come on now, he can quit right now, sit back and have money for the rest of his life, and his children's children...and on and on.

Vick would actually be pretty well off if he were to retire right now. He's had 2 large signing bonuses, as well as large contract numbers from playing in the league. 10k is like peanuts to him, he could just wipe his ***** with that much.

Believe me, if I probably had at least 20 million in bonuses alone, and at least another 20 million for playin the league 6 seasons, I sure as heck wouldn't be surprised if at least $100k was going out.

On that note, I will concede one thing. As this is not a large scale recovery and rebuilding effort, there probably was not a need for him to donate more, so i will give him that benefit of the doubt.

[Santana_Fan]

Vick would actually be pretty well off if he were to retire right now. He's had 2 large signing bonuses, as well as large contract numbers from playing in the league. 10k is like peanuts to him, he could just wipe his ***** with that much.

Believe me, if I probably had at least 20 million in bonuses alone, and at least another 20 million for playin the league 6 seasons, I sure as heck wouldn't be surprised if at least $100k was going out.

On that note, I will concede one thing. As this is not a large scale recovery and rebuilding effort, there probably was not a need for him to donate more, so i will give him that benefit of the doubt.


Yea, I thought about it, and he'd be set with the money he has. I just always think about MC Hammer's situation :laugh:. He'll be fine as long as he doesnt go stupid with it, and continue to build. But you're right, I consider Vick just being real considerate and really wanting to help out with something he was/still a part of. This makes me like Vick alot more than I already did.

[hamptonskinsfan]

vick is doing alot more than his other "hokie" alumni. if you look in the NFL there are quite a few alumni and none of them have given anything. James Anderson,Jeff King, Chad Beasley, Pierson Prioleau, Cory Bird, Bryan Randall, Andre' Davis, Tim Sandidge, Anthony Davis, Nick Sorensen, Jonathan Dunn, Darryl Tapp, John Engelberger, Ben Taylor, Vincent Fuller, Marcus Vick, Shayne Graham, Eric Green, Todd Washington, Jake Grove, Garnell Wilds, DeAngelo Hall, Ernest Wilford, Justin Hamilton, Jimmy Williams, Kevin Jones, Lee Suggs,Dave Kadela, Matt Lehr, and Derek Smith all are currently on active rosters yet no one has heard a word about them donating any money. if anyone counts that is 31(including Michael Vick) active members. if all were to donate $10,000 that would account for everyone except one who was killed including professors. if a former NFL player (like umm i dont know Bruce Smith) was to give than everyone would be accounted for. so get off of Michael's jock about the amount and realize that he at least was doing something.

[OWUeagleMD]

vick is doing alot more than his other "hokie" alumni. if you look in the NFL there are quite a few alumni and none of them have given anything. James Anderson,Jeff King, Chad Beasley, Pierson Prioleau, Cory Bird, Bryan Randall, Andre' Davis, Tim Sandidge, Anthony Davis, Nick Sorensen, Jonathan Dunn, Darryl Tapp, John Engelberger, Ben Taylor, Vincent Fuller, Marcus Vick, Shayne Graham, Eric Green, Todd Washington, Jake Grove, Garnell Wilds, DeAngelo Hall, Ernest Wilford, Justin Hamilton, Jimmy Williams, Kevin Jones, Lee Suggs,Dave Kadela, Matt Lehr, and Derek Smith all are currently on active rosters yet no one has heard a word about them donating any money. if anyone counts that is 31(including Michael Vick) active members. if all were to donate $10,000 that would account for everyone except one who was killed including professors. if a former NFL player (like umm i dont know Bruce Smith) was to give than everyone would be accounted for. so get off of Michael's jock about the amount and realize that he at least was doing something.

But he makes so much money!!!! Ten K is nothing to these athletes!!! They wipe their but with 10K!!! This is an insult!!!

[hamptonskinsfan]

insult or not he at least made an effort which is more than his tech alumni brethren can say. like at christmas it's the thought that counts. are you the type to tell your rich uncle you didnt like the car he got you because it was a ford and not a mercedes? come on.

[jivelikenice]

People who criticize how much he's giving symbolize a huge problem in our society. How come when somebody deos something good do people have to find an angel to criticize it? Why is there so much hating? People are always looking for a negative spin they can put on things. Should people who make more have a minimum required donation amount that theyt must contribute??


Also instead of focusing on the negative have you ever thought that maybe Vick didn't donate a large amount because if he had, then the public might think all funeral and travel costs have been paid for and might possibly pass on contributing??

[skins84]

All of the families involved don't have the money for the funeral, etc.

Some of the kids were on scholarship.

I happen to know one of the kids who has a family in this situation.

[OWUeagleMD]

I happen to know one of the kids who has a family in this situation.

I'm sure Mike Vick really offended them with this stunt.

[herb mul-key]

10k is totally cheap... M Vick is a cheapskate@!!!!!!...he needs to give 100K and get himself and all is alumni VT pro buddies over to campus to help students deal...

He gets no positive PR from me for this....

[TheDoyler23]

Vick didn't have to donate anything. They're still going to cash the check, right?

jeez.

[RedskinzOwnU]

Yea i have mixed feelings about this. It's a great gesture, but $10,000 is not much for a man with a $100 Million dollar contract. I feel like he's just doing it to improve his rep, and giving the minimum he can while still garnering good will. Tech is his alma mater. He wouldn't be in the NFL without the opportunity that they provided him. (granted he probably would have gotten into the NFL via another school). Still, he paid out $20,000 for giving the finger to his home fans in atlanta. You'd like to think he would at least match that.

[OWUeagleMD]

OK. Let's assume the position that Mike Vick did this ENTIRELY to generate some positive publicity. Let's also assume the position that $10,000 is not a lot of money to a multi-millionaire.


The average cost of a funeral in America in 2006 was $6,000 according to an indendant survey by American Life.

Fact or Fiction: Mike Vick's donation could single-handedly pay for 2 of the 32 deceased parties' funerals?

Two part question: is that a good or bad thing?

I think people are trying to explain that Mike Vick is guilty of doing something wrong right now. That seems clinically insane.

[ptr77]

What have you done?

Exactly. Its easy to bash big rich Vick, but the vast majority on this board has probably done ****e for the victims in anyway. Vick has no obligation to help them, if he sent in 10 dollars and a card of condolence it would be more than all the sick cynical analysts on this board. If you are gonna bash vick, send a statement of condolences and over 1% of your contract, then you can bash him.

If you really care about Vick's apparent lack of real concern look in the mirror and:

DO SOMETHING BESIDES SIT AND TYPE ON YOUR COMPUTER AND WHINE ABOUT VICK



I don't think Vick has a motive behind this, and even if he does he is still doing good. We can only hope other alummni follow suit.

[buenosdiaz]

the vick trash talking has begun..take it for what its worth..its something..atleast he is setting an example to give money back to this..im sure 5 dollars would be a cheap donation to some of us..but hey it helps

[jivelikenice]

10k is totally cheap... M Vick is a cheapskate@!!!!!!...he needs to give 100K and get himself and all is alumni VT pro buddies over to campus to help students deal...

He gets no positive PR from me for this....

That's cause you're a hater....Its pathetic that people always look for the negative....Just cause Mike Vick has money doesn't mean he should be held to a standard where $100k is the only suitable donation....I'm sure Mike is investing time and other resources that aren't publicized....And isn't this announcement a call to all other alumni??

[jivelikenice]

Yea i have mixed feelings about this. It's a great gesture, but $10,000 is not much for a man with a $100 Million dollar contract. I feel like he's just doing it to improve his rep.

What are you basing this off of??? I'm sure nothing factual.....

[FunBunch7]

I think that during the Katrina aftermath MANY NFL players stepped up with $5,000 each. It really does add up.

It really is the essence of "community"...if everyone in the village steps up, the bruden can be so much less on each person. Imagine if every American simply gave $1.00...that would be over $300 million...

I have no problem with Vick giving 10k.

[Sinclair]

Im going to quote this again because I think some of you skipped it.


That's a very classy move by Mike. I'm not a fan of his at all, but I gain some respect for him with this. Some of you balking at how much money he gave, need to seriously give the man a break. He gave, it was a nice gesture, and that's all. That's like a homeless man asking a rich man for food, and the rich man buys him a meal from McDonalds, and the homeless responds with, "WTF is this? You can afford a full five course Filet Mignon meal! All I get is this?".

Talk about beggars and choosers. :rolleyes:




He donated 10k, if you think he should have donated more money then write him a letter saying so, then go donate some money yourself.

[ptr77]

Im going to quote this again because I think some of you skipped it.



He donated 10k, if you think he should have donated more money then write him a letter saying so, then go donate some money yourself.

Good post

[RedskinzOwnU]

What are you basing this off of??? I'm sure nothing factual.....

No **** sherlock. It was clearly my opinion, hence the "I feel..." I'll make sure to conduct some interviews and look into his financial records before I make another post in this thread. Keep patrolling the threads, and make sure no one else says anything that they don't have any hard evidence for.

[Sweet Sassy Molassy]

People are still arguing about Vick not giving enough? Wow. I'm sad to see that people are this petty, especially in regards to a situation as this.

[jivelikenice]

No **** sherlock. It was clearly my opinion, hence the "I feel..." I'll make sure to conduct some interviews and look into his financial records before I make another post in this thread. Keep patrolling the threads, and make sure no one else says anything that they don't have any hard evidence for.

No problem!......I write things that I just think and feel all the time on this board, but I just thought it was pretty pathetic and petty to have the opinion that an athlete making a gesture of good was doing so for good publicity....Pretty sad that you automatically would "feel" that way....

-Sherlock H.

[ArmchairRedskin]

So Vick's trying to buy himself out of all the bad publicity he's had in recent memory?Nice.

[OWUeagleMD]

So Vick's trying to buy himself out of all the bad publicity he's had in recent memory?Nice.

Or maybe he was genuinely affected by the event and decided to make a difference...

[ArmchairRedskin]

Or maybe he was genuinely affected by the event and decided to make a difference...




Maybe, maybe not. Seems like a good PR move in light of his run-ins.

[spjunkies]

I'm in shock and disgusted by people attacking Vick for making a donation.

[jivelikenice]

I'm in shock and disgusted by people attacking Vick for making a donation.

It's pretty pathetic.....It's funny that people are trying to put Vick's character into question when their comments are actually making me question their character....

[herb mul-key]

That's cause you're a hater....Its pathetic that people always look for the negative....Just cause Mike Vick has money doesn't mean he should be held to a standard where $100k is the only suitable donation....I'm sure Mike is investing time and other resources that aren't publicized....And isn't this announcement a call to all other alumni??

now I jsut have standards for what I feel is appropriate...I actually would rather hear he gave no money but was at campus hanging out trying to help raise some spirits...

really if your so satisfied with a 10k donation from a multi multi millionaire famous alumni you have low standards....

all the VT alumin who play pro should go hang around at campus a bit right now ....that would be very caring and meaningful...f vicks money, doesn't do **** and will probably be lost in red tape anyway!

[SkinsTerps26]

now I jsut have standards for what I feel is appropriate...I actually would rather hear he gave no money but was at campus hanging out trying to help raise some spirits...

really if your so satisfied with a 10k donation from a multi multi millionaire famous alumni you have low standards....

all the VT alumin who play pro should go hang around at campus a bit right now ....that would be very caring and meaningful...f vicks money, doesn't do **** and will probably be lost in red tape anyway!

Wow. You are a complete moron. There are tens and hundreds of thousands of VT alumni, in addition to other people around the country, that are out there contributing money so that the people affected by this tragedy can at least ignore the financial burden of going to blacksburgs to identify their child, bringing them back home and plan a funeral.

You think that people want to see athletes right now on campus? Why?? First of all most of the students are gone, what would be the point of seeing some pro athletes at the campus. Would that make the event less tragic?!

Mike Vick was just one person helping contribute money for the families who were DIRECTLY affected by the shootings. Every little bit that people donate helps, and to question a donation of 10K is completly spineless and idiotic. Stop trying to bring Vick down on this subject because its not an issue about money, its an issue about trying to help people. It was a tragedy that affected many people. You and others like you completely turned this topic from something that should be seen as a generous gesture, to an judgement on ones charitable nature. Please for the rest of us, JUST SHUT UP.

[Mooka]

Wow.

How much is Vick supposed to donate? 100k? A million? Ten million? This isn't hurricane katrina where entire cities need to be rebuilt. Families are grieving. You really think a family that lost a son or daughter wants a giant sum of money? What exactly are they going to do with it? Buy a new flat screen? Hire Nelly to perform at the funeral?

Do people have to see the worst in everything? Sheesh.

[alleycat]

vick is doing alot more than his other "hokie" alumni. if you look in the NFL there are quite a few alumni and none of them have given anything. James Anderson,Jeff King, Chad Beasley, Pierson Prioleau, Cory Bird, Bryan Randall, Andre' Davis, Tim Sandidge, Anthony Davis, Nick Sorensen, Jonathan Dunn, Darryl Tapp, John Engelberger, Ben Taylor, Vincent Fuller, Marcus Vick, Shayne Graham, Eric Green, Todd Washington, Jake Grove, Garnell Wilds, DeAngelo Hall, Ernest Wilford, Justin Hamilton, Jimmy Williams, Kevin Jones, Lee Suggs,Dave Kadela, Matt Lehr, and Derek Smith all are currently on active rosters yet no one has heard a word about them donating any money. if anyone counts that is 31(including Michael Vick) active members. if all were to donate $10,000 that would account for everyone except one who was killed including professors. if a former NFL player (like umm i dont know Bruce Smith) was to give than everyone would be accounted for. so get off of Michael's jock about the amount and realize that he at least was doing something.




Who says they haven't donated ?? Many people prefer to donate quietly.

I am not saying Vick asked for the media coverage...He probably just wanted to help.

But because it isn't reported doesn't mean it hasn't occured.Just like Vick may have given more but, asked for only 10k to be reported so as to encourage others to help. Ya jus never know.

Imagine your child jus died and you don't have the money right now !!! His 10k may be worth 10 million to some family !!

And...BTW, Bill gates has given or pledged something like 1/30th of his NET worth (That is kinda redneck math, but prob close) That's his NET worth NOT annual income.

[ptr77]

now I jsut have standards for what I feel is appropriate...I actually would rather hear he gave no money but was at campus hanging out trying to help raise some spirits...

really if your so satisfied with a 10k donation from a multi multi millionaire famous alumni you have low standards....

all the VT alumin who play pro should go hang around at campus a bit right now ....that would be very caring and meaningful...f vicks money, doesn't do **** and will probably be lost in red tape anyway!

Donate 10 grand then...


Oh thats right, you care so much about the poor victims you have done nothing and would rather complain about vick giving 10 grand. Send ten grand, come on pony up.

[herb mul-key]

Wow. You are a complete moron. There are tens and hundreds of thousands of VT alumni, in addition to other people around the country, that are out there contributing money so that the people affected by this tragedy can at least ignore the financial burden of going to blacksburgs to identify their child, bringing them back home and plan a funeral.

You think that people want to see athletes right now on campus? Why?? First of all most of the students are gone, what would be the point of seeing some pro athletes at the campus. Would that make the event less tragic?!

Mike Vick was just one person helping contribute money for the families who were DIRECTLY affected by the shootings. Every little bit that people donate helps, and to question a donation of 10K is completly spineless and idiotic. Stop trying to bring Vick down on this subject because its not an issue about money, its an issue about trying to help people. It was a tragedy that affected many people. You and others like you completely turned this topic from something that should be seen as a generous gesture, to an judgement on ones charitable nature. Please for the rest of us, JUST SHUT UP.

Dude you can question and cut me down but I can't questions Vicks moves or motives?...suck my left hairy gonad punk ass!

[skinsdude]

Donate 10 grand then...


Oh thats right, you care so much about the poor victims you have done nothing and would rather complain about vick giving 10 grand. Send ten grand, come on pony up.

WTF? :doh: I doubt that the poster you are referring to makes what Michael Vick currently makes and has made in the past. That's the difference. That's a big difference. :doh: I would imagine that there have been several donation that people have made that where a far larger percentage of their income. That being said, I wonder how he arrived at a $10,000 donation. Maybe he felt that a large amount of money was not going to be needed. I can see that. I don't know how much, if any, money that the families are going to need. I think that different people have a different opinions on what will be needed. Bottom line is, I don't think that it is wrong for people to question the amount of his donation. Depending on how much money is needed, his donation could turn out to be either appropriate or woefully inadequate.

[SkinsTerps26]

Dude you can question and cut me down but I can't questions Vicks moves or motives?...suck my left hairy gonad punk ass!

What a feable attempt to sound like you aren't an aging piece of ****. Dude act your age. You want people to buy the garbage you write but then go ahead and make a comment like this? You are a complete embarrassment. Why don't you go and question your motives.

[jimster]

Wow.


Do people have to see the worst in everything? Sheesh.


it's a shame that someone is criticized for trying to help.

[herb mul-key]

What a feable attempt to sound like you aren't an aging piece of ****. Dude act your age. You want people to buy the garbage you write but then go ahead and make a comment like this? You are a complete embarrassment. Why don't you go and question your motives.


Dude...I don't care what people buy...don't try and act like your so smart or you know me...I can see your just limited...stupid, dumb... not very bright...that is....no depth...

I just don't think Vick donating 10k is newsworthy or meaningful, you can suck his jock if you want, looks like you like to carry CP's jock...

If you don't like or can't handle differing opinions from yours you should stay away from open forum message boards ...grow up young one and good luck.

[ptr77]

WTF? :doh: I doubt that the poster you are referring to makes what Michael Vick currently makes and has made in the past. That's the difference. That's a big difference. :doh: I would imagine that there have been several donation that people have made that where a far larger percentage of their income. That being said, I wonder how he arrived at a $10,000 donation. Maybe he felt that a large amount of money was not going to be needed. I can see that. I don't know how much, if any, money that the families are going to need. I think that different people have a different opinions on what will be needed. Bottom line is, I don't think that it is wrong for people to question the amount of his donation. Depending on how much money is needed, his donation could turn out to be either appropriate or woefully inadequate.


Since everyone is complaining about the amount he paid. Donate $2 a letter of condolence then, every dollar helps it shows you care. How can you complain when you did **** for them? Its pathetic, Vick is helping, you guys are complaining, do you see this? Get up off your fat butt and help if you care so much. Obviously you don't give a rats azz about the victims, you would much rather bash vick. If you people really want to bash Vick, make a difference yourself, then maybe you have the right (actually not really you still are a cynical waste of oxygen).

[Leonard Washington]

I'm in shock and disgusted by people attacking Vick for making a donation.

me too. definitely shows the character of some of the people on here.

[OWUeagleMD]

Mike Vick hanging out on campus is not as big a help as him donating 10 grand. 10 grand pays for two of 32 funerals. Mike Vick hanging out on campus does.... ummm...?

[ptr77]

Mike Vick hanging out on campus is not as big a help as him donating 10 grand. 10 grand pays for two of 32 funerals. Mike Vick hanging out on campus does.... ummm...?


He should of gave 1 hundred million dollars you idiot!!! Then he should of took out a loan and sold himself into slavery to send more money, all this before he spent a year on campus building churches, orphanages, and memorials! Its the least he can do for being such a horrible horrible person.


These people make me sick, they are all lazy and don't care at all, just fishing for a story. And if someone says they feel a small donation and a card of condolence wouldn't help, look at what Vick gave: 10 grand, it sure helped and i bet it is appreciated a lot more than talking about vick on a message board.

[herb mul-key]

money is money so what...I know he is just a rich, famous alumni jock... but I think sitting in on some support groups or service and handing out some smiles, hugs and befriending a few hurting kids would mean a lot more than a small donation

Maybe 10k is all the good he is capable of and thats cool...maybe he is doing more that we don't know..


I guess I just feel like if I were in his shoes...an alumni, very rich and famous thanks to our society, lived close etc....I would be in town doing all I could..but thats just me...

I have done what I can do, (I don't have millions in the bank) which is send prayers....believe me I do wish I could do more....it is just really sad and I don't believe money heals...

[skinsdude]

Since everyone is complaining about the amount he paid. Donate $2 a letter of condolence then, every dollar helps it shows you care. How can you complain when you did **** for them? Its pathetic, Vick is helping, you guys are complaining, do you see this? Get up off your fat butt and help if you care so much. Obviously you don't give a rats azz about the victims, you would much rather bash vick. If you people really want to bash Vick, make a difference yourself, then maybe you have the right (actually not really you still are a cynical waste of oxygen).

I have already sent a donation to the victims earlier in the week. I think that the donation that my wife and I gave shows that we very much DO care about the victims. Your comments may come off a little better if don't act like you know what everyone's thoughts are on this tragedy. They sound like they are coming from someone far younger than yourself.

[OWUeagleMD]

money is money so what...I know he is just a rich, famous alumni jock... but I think sitting in on some support groups or service and handing out some smiles, hugs and befriending a few hurting kids would mean a lot more than a small donation

Maybe 10k is all the good he is capable of and thats cool...maybe he is doing more that we don't know..


I guess I just feel like if I were in his shoes...an alumni, very rich and famous thanks to our society, lived close etc....I would be in town doing all I could..but thats just me...

I have done what I can do, (I don't have millions in the bank) which is send prayers....believe me I do wish I could do more....it is just really sad and I don't believe money heals...

Mike Vick can't worrow about healing, especially when hanging out for a few days wouldn't do any good in the first place. It's about simple logistics for him, since he is essentially unconnected to the situation. Like I said, his donation will pay for 2 victims' funerals. From his position that is a huge assistance to the victims' families.

There's no reason to focus on how much money he makes; that is a useless class battle. He makes a lot of money and so do many other people who have graduated from Virginia Tech. The only thing that needs to be considered is that the families of 32 murdered college kids have $10,000 at their disposal to help take care of logistics over the next month.

[Sinclair]

it's a shame that someone is criticized for trying to help.

I agree, its pretty sick that this is still and argument.

[mnj1125]

vick is doing alot more than his other "hokie" alumni. if you look in the NFL there are quite a few alumni and none of them have given anything. James Anderson,Jeff King, Chad Beasley, Pierson Prioleau, Cory Bird, Bryan Randall, Andre' Davis, Tim Sandidge, Anthony Davis, Nick Sorensen, Jonathan Dunn, Darryl Tapp, John Engelberger, Ben Taylor, Vincent Fuller, Marcus Vick, Shayne Graham, Eric Green, Todd Washington, Jake Grove, Garnell Wilds, DeAngelo Hall, Ernest Wilford, Justin Hamilton, Jimmy Williams, Kevin Jones, Lee Suggs,Dave Kadela, Matt Lehr, and Derek Smith all are currently on active rosters yet no one has heard a word about them donating any money. if anyone counts that is 31(including Michael Vick) active members. if all were to donate $10,000 that would account for everyone except one who was killed including professors. if a former NFL player (like umm i dont know Bruce Smith) was to give than everyone would be accounted for. so get off of Michael's jock about the amount and realize that he at least was doing something.

Like another person said, how do you know whether these people have donated or not? Vick is just more high profile than some of these other people so his donation is considered more "newsworthy" to the media.

[smalex41]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/18/AR2007041802888_pf.html


Vick Gives $10,000 for Va. Tech Families

The Associated Press
Wednesday, April 18, 2007; 11:03 PM

ATLANTA -- Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick has teamed up with the United Way to donate $10,000 to assist families affected by the massacre at Virginia Tech, his former school.

"When tragic things like this happen, families have enough to deal with, and if I can help in some small way, that's the least I can do," said Vick, who played for the Hokies before being drafted No. 1 overall by the Falcons in 2001.

The Vick Foundation is collecting donations from local communities in both Atlanta and Virginia that will be placed in the United In Caring Fund for Victims of the VA Tech Tragedy and the special fund at the United Way of Montgomery, Radford and Floyd counties, which serves the Virginia Tech area.

Vick's foundation said the money will be used to provide help with funeral expenses, transportation for family members and other support services.Vick aptly appraised his donation by saying "this is the least that Ican do". C'mon, this is a tax write-off for him and 10K is nothing but peanuts whose salary and endorsements total way up in the millions. To an institution that gave you the opportunity to become one of the highest paid athletes in the US, i consider this as being a "blatant" demonstration of his uncaring attitude, sensitivity, awareness and cheapness. Anything short of a 100K donation will mark you forever and remember, "what goes around comes around". :mad:

[ptr77]

I have already sent a donation to the victims earlier in the week. I think that the donation that my wife and I gave shows that we very much DO care about the victims. Your comments may come off a little better if don't act like you know what everyone's thoughts are on this tragedy. They sound like they are coming from someone far younger than yourself.

So you sent more of your salary % than vick did? You positive of that? Is your money going to go as far as his did?

I wouldn't be surprised if you are just lying to me either. Donations always help, who gives more, who makes more money has no bearing on donations, every penny shows you care. If you are the one arguing about how he should of given more, he has no obligation to do so, neither do you. By donating he is showing he cares, welcome to the real world.

[OWUeagleMD]

Maybe we just have a large collection of class warriors around here. The guy is rich, so obviously he needs to donate an amount of money that represents a large percent of his income. Nevermind the fact that $10,000 is a lot of money to the people who are receiving it, what's important is that it is a lot of money to the person who is giving it. That is, afterall, the definiton of donation, right?

[herb mul-key]

Mike Vick can't worrow about healing, especially when hanging out for a few days wouldn't do any good in the first place. It's about simple logistics for him, since he is essentially unconnected to the situation. Like I said, his donation will pay for 2 victims' funerals. From his position that is a huge assistance to the victims' families.

There's no reason to focus on how much money he makes; that is a useless class battle. He makes a lot of money and so do many other people who have graduated from Virginia Tech. The only thing that needs to be considered is that the families of 32 murdered college kids have $10,000 at their disposal to help take care of logistics over the next month.

very simple minded view...are you a know it all?

[pointyfootball]

very simple minded view...are you a know it all?

That should be: "know-it-all".






:)

[pointyfootball]

Maybe we just have a large collection of class warriors around here. The guy is rich, so obviously he needs to donate an amount of money that represents a large percent of his income. Nevermind the fact that $10,000 is a lot of money to the people who are receiving it, what's important is that it is a lot of money to the person who is giving it. That is, afterall, the definiton of donation, right?

Celebs can't win no matter what they do. That being said, it's much more respectable if they give as anonymously as possible, otherwise it's looked at as an attempt at garnering positive PR.

[fwo40]

In the end this donation was a good thing-why do people care about the amount?

That makes it about Mike Vick, why do that?

I'm sure Vick doesn't care what people think about him and was doing he thought was something good (which "surprise" it is...)

Leave the dude alone and check your own moral compasses first, and if you're flying right keep it up and move along...

[OWUeagleMD]

Celebs can't win no matter what they do. That being said, it's much more respectable if they give as anonymously as possible, otherwise it's looked at as an attempt at garnering positive PR.

I agree. But, even as an attempt to gain positive PR, $10,000 is a meaningfully beneficial donation to the families. That's more important right now than focusing on Mike Vick's publicity team.

[OWUeagleMD]

very simple minded view...are you a know it all?

Yes, it is a simple-minded view, because this is a simple situation. $10,000 is better than $0. This is a good thing.

Yes, I am a know-it-all.

[hamptonskinsfan]

Like another person said, how do you know whether these people have donated or not? Vick is just more high profile than some of these other people so his donation is considered more "newsworthy" to the media.

You are obviously missing what i was trying to say here. I was just giving an example and trying to say what he did was a NOBLE thing. i was in no way condemning him for his actions (and for the actions of his fellow alumni for that matter). If you read my posts I was all for him giving and was not complaining about the amount. :cheers:

[Jaded-Dragon]

Seriously, could he have probably given more? Sure. But he didn't have to give anything to begin with.

[jivelikenice]

Vick aptly appraised his donation by saying "this is the least that Ican do". C'mon, this is a tax write-off for him and 10K is nothing but peanuts whose salary and endorsements total way up in the millions. To an institution that gave you the opportunity to become one of the highest paid athletes in the US, i consider this as being a "blatant" demonstration of his uncaring attitude, sensitivity, awareness and cheapness. Anything short of a 100K donation will mark you forever and remember, "what goes around comes around". :mad:

Wow, please tell me ur not being serious. So because Vick donates money to the families to help out with certain costs after this tragedy he is going to get bad karma. And why would Vick donate ANYTHING to the school itself, the money needs to be going to the families of the victims not Virginia Tech. Plus Virginia Tech received a lot of money in advertising and sponsorships during his tenure there. I cant believe how much he is being attacked for this gesture.

[Tastes Like Chicken]

10k to Vick is like $100 to a person making $100k a year, or $50 if you make $50k/year etc. I dont think that it was selfish.

[BAFGA]

10k to Vick is like $100 to a person making $100k a year, or $50 if you make $50k/year etc. I dont think that it was selfish.

Actually, that's about right. But to the fund itself, it means a lot more when a $10K donation goes in than a bunch of $50 donations.

I think it's a classy move.

[Tastes Like Chicken]

Actually, that's about right. But to the fund itself, it means a lot more when a $10K donation goes in than a bunch of $50 donations.

I think it's a classy move.

One of the problems today is shows like MTV Cribs. You get to see, for instance, Mike Vick show you around his 10,000 sq ft palace with movie theater, basketball court, pool jacuzzi, all the electronic toys etc, and the driveway with the Benz,Porsche and the Hummer and the pimped out Navigator and it makes some think. "Gee, what he donated means one less plasma TV in his 5th car. Poor baby."

But that same dude is probably in a strip club tossing $1's to single mothers instead of donating $50 towards the college fund, or diapers, or hey the families of the VaTech victims. Vick gave something significant to get the donations started; he could've done nothing at all.

[jaysonx]

You guys don't understand, $10,000 is the maximum amount a person can make as a cash donation to someone else without both parties having to pay tax on the transaction. Anything after $10,000 becomes a major headache.

[canethang 305]

You guys don't understand, $10,000 is the maximum amount a person can make as a cash donation to someone else without both parties having to pay tax on the transaction. Anything after $10,000 becomes a major headache.

Tax on a charitable donation, I had no idea I thought they were tax free as long as the charity was properly registered. I wonder how much Dr. Dre's Million Dollar donation after 9/11 was taxed or the 100 grand going to the United Way after Urlacher's fine?

Any who I do not like Vick at all but anything is better than nothing and he stepped up, maybe he'll donate more after everything sorts out. Not sure if maybe some athlete alum from Tech asked the school to keep their donations private but i have only read about Vick, no Deangello Hall, Bruce Smith or other notable alum has made a donation so maybe the people bashing Vick for only donating 10 grand should hop on the "why hasn't anyone else donated" bandwagon.

The 'Canes baseball coach presented a 10 grand donation to Tech's coach before the game to a standing ovation from a packed house last night in Blacksburg and at first i thought people would be like why didn't they donate more but all the Hokies I know are so appreciative and i bet that 10,000 number is based on the tax ramifications since that's the number the U donated and Vick did also.

Can you imagine if every person in the US donated a $1 how much it would add up to.

[kevin11]

Alright, why doesn't Vick gve his entire contract to the VA tech families? Would make the you guys happy?

[Blondie]

thats $312 bucks a family:rolleyes:


Give me a break. $10,000 from a man making as much as Vick is almost like an insult.


That's not the point. I don't have the means to do anything. Vick has the means and then much, much more......

OH PLEASE.

Some of you just kill me. It does not matter what some of these athletes do..y'all will never be satisfied. Never good enough for you NO MATTER WHAT.

It has NOTHING to do with how much he makes........it has to do with the fact HE GAVE.

GEEZ. Get a grip people.

[Blondie]

You guys don't understand, $10,000 is the maximum amount a person can make as a cash donation to someone else without both parties having to pay tax on the transaction. Anything after $10,000 becomes a major headache.


Why try to explain? They could check into these things. BUT NOOOOOO....people want to ***** and moan.

[eagles78]

OH PLEASE.

Some of you just kill me. It does not matter what some of these athletes do..y'all will never be satisfied. Never good enough for you NO MATTER WHAT.

It has NOTHING to do with how much he makes........it has to do with the fact HE GAVE.

GEEZ. Get a grip people.People are STILL arguing about this?

[atloldskin]

Mike Vick gave $10,000. What is there to criticize? He has reportedly given VT over $500,000 in total and made the school countless millions. I wish more NFL players would step up to help. Never complain about someone helping out!

[Die Hard]

I thought it was a nice gesture by Mr. Vick... since I know he still maintains strong ties with the school.

At the same time, I was a little surprised. It was much lower than I would have expected.

[SkinsWizCubsDukes]

Just to put this into comparrison, my friends dad (who is a VT alumni) gave 2,000 dollars himself. He is not even a millionaire.

Not that this was not a nice gesture, but it is kind of a slap in the face when he is probably one of the richest and well known member of the VT alumni. I feel like it was something he felt like he had to do instead of wanted to do.

He has no problem dishing out 10's of thousands of fines for flicking off the crowd...

And for those of you saying Bill Gates, he donates billions to charity, and he didn't get famous from Virginia Tech, and isn't an alumni.

[Supreme Wu]

To those scoffing at the $10K: how much should he have donated instead?

$100,000k!

Nah, I'm kidding. 10k is a lot of money, it's 10k more than he had to give if you think about it. It's not as if it's Vicks fault that something crazy happened - he's not 'responsible' for fixing the whole thing by himself!

[peckerwood]

Without trying to sound like a complete ****head... those families can probably afford the burials themselves, having a kid in college in the first place.

Well you do sound like a complete ****head. Kids in college != rich parents. I'm in college, and I grew up poor as dirt. Not everyone in post-secondary education is a spoiled rich kid going for a business degree. Get a clue.

[dreamshatterer]

$10,000 huh, I wonder which income the money came from???

[turbodiesel#44]

He lost more than twice that on one dogfight, according to the Feds.

[BAFGA]

I didn't have a problem with the donation at the time, because he's given a lot to the University for athletic facilities and what not. In hindsight, and after reading the 19 page indictment, the $10000 donation at the time seems a little insignificant.