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RDSKNfaithfull
May-1st-2007, 02:00 PM
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/HeadLines.aspx?sport=NFL

That is wild after covering the draft on ESPN representing the Panthers they cut him :laugh:


League min. plus incentives :laugh:

CutTHROAT
May-1st-2007, 02:02 PM
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/HeadLines.aspx?sport=NFL

That is wild after covering the draft on ESPN representing the Panthers they cut him :laugh:


League min. plus incentives :laugh:

Im down to have him on the team for the right price. Thats crazy he will get cut like that though. WOW

AKM311
May-1st-2007, 02:03 PM
That is really messed up. Keyshaun said some nice things to Jarrett and tried to motivate him as well. He was telling him he will be his tutor and make him maximize his skills. He must be pissed.

Warhead36
May-1st-2007, 02:03 PM
It's funny because when Keyshawn was talking to Jarrett he was all like "I'll take care of you baby boy don't worry" and all that other junk. And remember when he compared Calvin Johnson to himself? :laugh:

This is just so ironic and hillarious.

CM916
May-1st-2007, 02:09 PM
This is really surprising. I remember when we played them last season and how when Steve Smith was nowhere to be found, Keyshawn moved the chains. (much to my annoyance) Very low of the staff to not let him know they were looking for his replacement in the draft.

DixieFlatline
May-1st-2007, 02:17 PM
nm..just read the roto article. I had read something in the Charlotte paper that didn't give a reason why.

pjfootballer
May-1st-2007, 02:30 PM
Actually, this out of all the talk of picking up a veteran WR, would be the one. Vet experience, size and can move the chains. I'd be up for a Keyshawn signing.

d0ublestr0ker0ll
May-1st-2007, 02:34 PM
Actually, this out of all the talk of picking up a veteran WR, would be the one. Vet experience, size and can move the chains. I'd be up for a Keyshawn signing.

I hated him so much, but my initial reaction is that this would be awesome. Oh the forbidden blasphemy. The only way we sign him is if in his contract it states, "if you yell at Joe Gibbs or Jason Campbell, the fans shall kill you."

Alabama Man
May-1st-2007, 02:42 PM
haha

keyshawn is a bad person

CaptChaos86
May-1st-2007, 02:45 PM
Im very curious why they would cut him??

bubba9497
May-1st-2007, 02:45 PM
If he doesn't retire,..... maybe go to Denver?

ArmchairRedskin
May-1st-2007, 03:10 PM
I hated him so much, but my initial reaction is that this would be awesome. Oh the forbidden blasphemy. The only way we sign him is if in his contract it states, "if you yell at Joe Gibbs or Jason Campbell, the fans shall kill you."



He'd have to deal with his favorite safety in the league as well. Imagine Taylor's reaction if we picked him up. Much hilarity would ensue! :laugh:

sleazye
May-1st-2007, 03:13 PM
ham sammich

RunClintonRun26
May-1st-2007, 03:20 PM
I don't want a guy who has never said "it's my fault." Come on . . . anyone who really wants this guy doesn't know the meaning of a rivalry, nor do they know how bad a character guy Meshawn is.
Having said that though, I do feel bad for him. After spending 6 hours talking about the Panthers, and even talking to Jarrett about it . . . man, thats rough. He should go to another NFC south team and try to get some revenge.

d0ublestr0ker0ll
May-1st-2007, 03:22 PM
He'd have to deal with his favorite safety in the league as well. Imagine Taylor's reaction if we picked him up. Much hilarity would ensue! :laugh:

Yeah, in The Stadium thread about this I said the same thing. Sean would crack him in practice. I say we let him stay until the season starts, just so Sean can practice blasting a receiver. :applause:

Tom [Giants fan]
May-1st-2007, 03:24 PM
Weinke is laughing now after the comments Keyshawn made about the Panthers having nothing when Jake D. went down.

praise_gibbs
May-1st-2007, 03:29 PM
:doh: Poor Meeshawn. I happened to think his attitude was starting to turn around for once. I'd sign him up for the right price.

2006Skins
May-1st-2007, 04:46 PM
Vet min with lots of incentives and cut Lloyd. Theres no way we can keep Moss ARE Lloyd and Johnson.

ArmchairRedskin
May-1st-2007, 05:01 PM
Well if nothing else Johnson proved he can be good behind the desk.

TheDoyler23
May-1st-2007, 05:02 PM
He may be a dick, but he's money in the red zone. We could some help down there...

Makes sense, I guess.

(now cue 7 threads in the stadium in the next hour)

DeMarco Murray 29
May-1st-2007, 06:04 PM
Come on back to Dallas, Key :)

skinsfan07
May-1st-2007, 06:06 PM
It's funny because when Keyshawn was talking to Jarrett he was all like "I'll take care of you baby boy don't worry" and all that other junk. And remember when he compared Calvin Johnson to himself? :laugh:

This is just so ironic and hillarious.

Yeah! LOL He said CJ was a mixture of Randy Moss and himself! I was like WTF!?!?! :laugh:

DWinzit
May-2nd-2007, 06:23 AM
Oh the forbidden blasphemy." :laugh: True dat!

That is really messed up. Keyshaun said some nice things to Jarrett and tried to motivate him as well. He was telling him he will be his tutor and make him maximize his skills. He must be pissed.Meshawn had a worried look in his eyes while speaking about and to Jarrett. A man never at a loss for words was having a hard time talking with kid he knew and had so much in common with. I think he knew he was finished in Carolina.

thespaniard
May-2nd-2007, 06:53 AM
He should go to another NFC south team and try to get some revenge.

He may very well be. There is a rumor on the saints board saying that they are close to signing him. Makes sense with the Sean Payton connection..

http://www.saintsreport.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28644

thespaniard
May-2nd-2007, 06:53 AM
whoops :doh:

bubba9497
May-2nd-2007, 06:56 AM
']Weinke is laughing now after the comments Keyshawn made about the Panthers having nothing when Jake D. went down.


Karma's a *****


I thought it was classless when he said it, That and all the times he said "ME"

DWinzit
May-2nd-2007, 06:57 AM
He may very well be. There is a rumour on the saints board saying that they are close to signing him. Makes sense with the Sean Payton connection..
WTF? How many WR's do your Saints have?

bubba9497
May-2nd-2007, 06:58 AM
WTF? How many WR's do your Saints have?


messageboard rumors

he has to clear waivers first

Veretax
May-2nd-2007, 07:28 AM
My money is on him Ending up in Green Bay. The guy wants one more ring, and Favre could get him there.

thespaniard
May-2nd-2007, 07:33 AM
WTF? How many WR's do your Saints have?

If it happened, our 6 WRs for gameday would be:

Colston
Meacham
Keyshawn
Henderson
Copper
Patten

That's pretty good. A team like the Saints needs a lot of WRs for the type of offense they run.

carlsbadd
May-2nd-2007, 08:53 AM
Crazy thing is that Keyshawn just got paid his April bonus and I think Carolina is still on the hook for a couple million more in bonuses

thespaniard
May-2nd-2007, 08:58 AM
Crazy thing is that Keyshawn just got paid his April bonus and I think Carolina is still on the hook for a couple million more in bonuses

They did not pay him his $3 mil bonus that was due april first. They gave him $1 mil at that point that they owed him for a previous roster bonus or signing bonus or something like that.

carlsbadd
May-2nd-2007, 09:01 AM
They did not pay him his $3 mil bonus that was due april first. They gave him $1 mil at that point that they owed him for a previous roster bonus or signing bonus or something like that.


That is my understanding as well, He has I think about 3 million total in money that is guaranteed, minus the april 1rst bonus, not that big of a loss ,but I question why they would cut him after a 70 catch season.

thespaniard
May-2nd-2007, 09:22 AM
That is my understanding as well, He has I think about 3 million total in money that is guaranteed, minus the april 1rst bonus, not that big of a loss ,but I question why they would cut him after a 70 catch season.

There was an article in the Charlotte Observer that pointed to some behind the scenes problems:

http://blogs.charlotte.com/panthers/2007/05/why_panthers_ca.html

Drex
May-2nd-2007, 12:16 PM
Johnson would be a good fit in Tennessee. They lost Drew Bennett via free agency and David Givens is still recovering from an ACL injury. They did draft some receivers in the later rounds and they signed Justin Gage via free agency. Prior to the draft, there were reports that Mike Williams was going to be acquired via trade but he ended up in Oakland.

Another thing to consider is the USC connection: coach Jeff Fischer is a USC alum and Norm Chow was formerly the offensive coordinator at USC.

thespaniard
May-2nd-2007, 12:17 PM
messageboard rumors

he has to clear waivers first

I'm pretty sure because of what time of year it is and how long Keyshawn has been in the league that he doesn't have to clear waivers.

Rocky21
May-2nd-2007, 01:01 PM
Glad they cut him. He is a total malcontent and is as slow as humanly possible as an NFL (excuse me) former NFL player could be. If Kathy Bates pulled a Misery on Ricky Prohl, he could still beat Key in a foot race unless they were running from the cops.

The fact that the Panthers coaching staff thought they could take that locker room cancer and have him make a positive contribution on that team was probably the first of what now seems commonplace blunders from this coaching staff. (It’s amazing how quick they have gone from hardly ever looking stupid to whopper after whopper now.) Those quotes he made about the police in LA and the LA riots are probably the worst character quotes I have ever seen from a professional athlete. And that’s saying something. Good riddance Keyshawn. Pro football is better off without you.

thespaniard
May-2nd-2007, 02:33 PM
What other blunders have the Panthers made?

:whoknows:

pjfootballer
May-2nd-2007, 03:39 PM
There was an article in the Charlotte Observer that pointed to some behind the scenes problems:

http://blogs.charlotte.com/panthers/2007/05/why_panthers_ca.html

Good find on the article, but I live in the Charlotte area and he never made any waves, which is exactly what the article is saying. I hate to tell that sports reporter, but INT's are a team stat. You just can't blame it on one player. Keyshawn actually stood up for Jake during the season when they brought Weinke in. That's just a reporter looking to "dig something up" and come up with the "headliner" in his story that he "broke" the reason why Keyshawn was let go.

Spartacus87
May-2nd-2007, 04:29 PM
I was reading through the comments posted by people on the bottom of that blog entry, and found this one particularly interesting:

Expect more restructring and maybe one or two more suprising cuts to save cap room. The Panthers HAVE to get Peppers locked down soon with a long deal or he will be gone if he hits the free agent market. Also, Steve Smith will be looking for a new contract soon as well...he's been quiet but the top receiver in the league should at least be in the top 10 in regards to pay for receivers. It would be great if we could have pro bowlers and big names at every position like the Redskins only to have to release and move players every year to fit under the cap. Imagine this time next year if we had to wish Pepper goodbye! Never thought I'd see another team's fan say they wished their team was like us in terms of player/cap management.

bubba9497
May-2nd-2007, 06:35 PM
ESPN says Tennessee and the NY Giants are very interested in signing MeShawn

ptr77
May-2nd-2007, 06:42 PM
ESPN says Tenessee and the NY Giants are very interested in signing MeShawn

I am scared and excited all at once. He won't sign in NY imo, he would back up Burress and Toomer (if healthy) and shockey would take catches too. Would make for insane depth though. If they do sign him i see toomer leaving. Tennessee looks like a great place for him.

DRSmith
May-2nd-2007, 06:52 PM
ESPN says Tenessee and the NY Giants are very interested in signing MeShawn

We should look at him as a big reciever, just one year though.

DWinzit
May-2nd-2007, 08:33 PM
We should look at him as a big reciever, just one year though.I'd imagine he's looking for and will get a fairly lucurative multiyear (2 or 3 year)deal.

bubba9497
May-2nd-2007, 10:37 PM
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/nfl


The four teams that want Keyshawn

Keyshawn Johnson might have to put his television career on hold. Word is there might be a pretty good market for him. The Eagles, Chargers, Giants and Titans are rumored to be among the teams that are at least thinking about pursuing Johnson

DWinzit
May-2nd-2007, 10:40 PM
Giants | Team may be interested in K. Johnson
Wed, 2 May 2007 16:23:29 -0700

Ralph Vacchiano, of the New York Daily News, reports New York Giants head coach Tom Coughlin has not ruled out the possibility that the Giants might try and sign unrestricted free-agent WR Keyshawn Johnson (Panthers), but it is unlikely to occur.

http://kffl.com/hotw/nfl
I don't the Giants are a good fit. The Titans and Chargers make more sense.

Skins247
May-3rd-2007, 01:22 AM
nm..just read the roto article. I had read something in the Charlotte paper that didn't give a reason why.

Keyshawn was cut for a lot of reasons that weren't made public. It was said that he was becoming a nusiance in the locker room. He also publicly trashed the Panthers for firing Dan Henning, their offensive coordinator. They also were irked by comments he made about retiring. He basically told them he wasn't even sure if he was coming back or not, after they fired Henning. He basically had worn out his welcome there. It happens. I was surprised, at first, to hear he had been released. But when you factor in everything its not that hard to understand why he was let go. But I will say this. It has pissed off a lot of the fans down here. And if Jarrett doesn't come out and produce next year, heads will probably roll. I look for Marty Hurney (their GM) to be the first to go if Jarrett doesn't produce. And I think this has put undue pressure on the guy to perform. He should have been able to learn from KJ for a year. I think that would have made him a much better player. But, oh well. But I wouldn't feel sorry for KJ. Word has it, he has upwards of 10 teams calling his agent about playing for some other team next year.

Skins247
May-3rd-2007, 01:23 AM
Im very curious why they would cut him??

Living in Charlotte you should already know the reasoning. If not, check out my post above. It pretty details what went on.

Skins247
May-3rd-2007, 01:27 AM
Crazy thing is that Keyshawn just got paid his April bonus and I think Carolina is still on the hook for a couple million more in bonuses


The Panthers paid Keyshawn 2 million in April. And they would have had to pay him that regardless of whether he was there or not. Don't know where you get your information from, dude.

Skins247
May-3rd-2007, 01:27 AM
They did not pay him his $3 mil bonus that was due april first. They gave him $1 mil at that point that they owed him for a previous roster bonus or signing bonus or something like that.

No, that's not true. He was given a 2 million bonus in April. And, again, they owed him that whether he was there or not.

Skins247
May-3rd-2007, 01:32 AM
What other blunders have the Panthers made?

:whoknows:

Oh, there have been several. One is that they keep paying a guy like Dan Morgan to play about half of the games. All the while letting quality players like Will Witherspoon go. There was also the bonehead move their owner made after the 1-15 season. This knucklehead owner's team was coming off a 1-15 season and he had the audacity to RAISE ticket prices. Even Snyder would have never done something as stupid as that. Their season ticket holders were stupid to put up with that one. I would have immediately dumped my tix after that.

Skins247
May-3rd-2007, 01:33 AM
Good find on the article, but I live in the Charlotte area and he never made any waves, which is exactly what the article is saying. I hate to tell that sports reporter, but INT's are a team stat. You just can't blame it on one player. Keyshawn actually stood up for Jake during the season when they brought Weinke in. That's just a reporter looking to "dig something up" and come up with the "headliner" in his story that he "broke" the reason why Keyshawn was let go.


Dude, there was alot going on behind the scenes that people didn't know. He wore out his welcome there. Period.

thespaniard
May-3rd-2007, 06:34 AM
The Panthers paid Keyshawn 2 million in April. And they would have had to pay him that regardless of whether he was there or not. Don't know where you get your information from, dude.


No, that's not true. He was given a 2 million bonus in April. And, again, they owed him that whether he was there or not.

Where do you get your information from? I get mine from the Charlotte Observer.

http://blogs.charlotte.com/panthers/2007/05/no_3_million_bo.html


Let's clear up a little matter here before it gets too wide-spread: The Panthers DID NOT pay Keyshawn Johnson a $3 million roster bonus on April 1, as has been reported elsewhere and has fans scratching their heads.

The Panthers did pay Johnson $1 million April 1. But that was deferred money from the signing bonus he agreed to when he initially signed with the Panthers. Johnson also was due a $1 million reporting bonus at the start of training camp. Obviously, he won't get that money and it won't count against the salary cap.

thespaniard
May-3rd-2007, 06:35 AM
Oh, there have been several. One is that they keep paying a guy like Dan Morgan to play about half of the games. All the while letting quality players like Will Witherspoon go. There was also the bonehead move their owner made after the 1-15 season. This knucklehead owner's team was coming off a 1-15 season and he had the audacity to RAISE ticket prices. Even Snyder would have never done something as stupid as that. Their season ticket holders were stupid to put up with that one. I would have immediately dumped my tix after that.

Isn't that the year they went to the Superbowl? :whoknows:

DRSmith
May-3rd-2007, 07:04 AM
I'd imagine he's looking for and will get a fairly lucurative multiyear (2 or 3 year)deal.

He's 35 and has too look at what Moss just took, and take into consideration he was cut not traded.

DWinzit
May-3rd-2007, 07:08 AM
He's 35 and has too look at what Moss just took, and take into consideration he was cut not traded.He has multiple teams looking at him (per his agent:rolleyes: ) and had a very productive 70 catch season. Add in his cockiness and he probably thinks he should get a 10 year contract!:doh:

thespaniard
May-3rd-2007, 07:12 AM
He's 35 and has too look at what Moss just took, and take into consideration he was cut not traded.

He's actually 34. Another 34 year old, Joe Horn, got a 4 year, $15 million dollar contract this year from the Falcons, and he hasn't been nearly as healthy or productive the last 2 years as Keyshawn. Not saying it's a smart thing for a team to give Keyshawn this kind of years/money, just that it probably will happen.

Rocky21
May-3rd-2007, 08:09 AM
We should look at him as a big reciever, just one year though.You would never see a locker room distraction like Me-Shawn on a Joe Gibbs team. Get serious.

thespaniard
May-3rd-2007, 08:14 AM
You would never see a locker room distraction like Me-Shawn on a Joe Gibbs team. Get serious.

You never know. People said the same thing about Belichek, and now he has Randy Moss :whoknows:.

pointyfootball
May-3rd-2007, 08:50 AM
You would never see a locker room distraction like Me-Shawn on a Joe Gibbs team. Get serious.

You don't think BLoyd is a distraction? Or Portis, when he's bitchin about having to play in preseason? Distractions are only distractions when you're not winning. If you're winning they most likely won't exist. Unless your Donovan McNabb then people are always pinning distractions on you.

pjfootballer
May-3rd-2007, 09:54 AM
Dude, there was alot going on behind the scenes that people didn't know. He wore out his welcome there. Period.

I don't watch the local Sports on the news here, but other than behind the scenes stuff in the lockeroom, I didn't hear a peep from him. But of course that doesn't mean he wasn't a problem.

Skins247
May-3rd-2007, 12:29 PM
Isn't that the year they went to the Superbowl? :whoknows:

Nope.