USA Today's top 25 memorable quotes of the last 25 years, Redskins Represented

[Zen-like Todd]

http://www.usatoday.com/news/top25-quotes.htm

#20 "I'd run over my own mother to win the Super Bowl."

Russ Grimm, 1984, a Washington Redskin who ended his career as a player with three Super Bowl rings.

[kramdizzle]

What about "Sandy baby you gotta losen up" - JR

[bubba9497]

or the famous, "I'm bored, I'm broke, and I'm back"

[bubba9497]

25"Not that there's anything wrong with that."
Jerry Seinfeld, Feb. 11, 1993, in the episode The Outing, later used whenever a gay character was discussed on the show.


I think I have seen that one used a few times :laugh:

[number twenty-eight]

How do they not include the (Riggins?) reply: "I'd run over her, too"?

Those guys were so awesome.

[bubba9497]

How do they not include the (Riggins?) reply: "I'd run over her, too"?

Those guys were so awesome.


I forgot that one :laugh:

[RunClintonRun26]

Man that's a great quote. That's a true offensive linemen whose life is football.

[dlwredskins]

How do they not include the (Riggins?) reply: "I'd run over her, too"?

Those guys were so awesome.


Guys I hate to be Donald Downer, but that reply "I'd run over Grimm's mom too" was actually made by a Raider lineman...think Defensive lineman ..... right before that disaster we at Redskin nation call Superbowl 18....another reason I hate the Raiders. On my hate list it's the Cowboys First...then the Raiders.


HAIL!!!

[number twenty-eight]

Guys I hate to be Donald Downer, but that reply "I'd run over Grimm's mom too" was actually made by a Raider lineman...think Defensive lineman ..... right before that disaster we at Redskin nation call Superbowl 18....another reason I hate the Raiders. On my hate list it's the Cowboys First...then the Raiders.


HAIL!!!

Wow, thanks for the knowledge. Its always portrayed as Riggins or one of the other Hogs saying that, but I guess it goes into the Doug Williams folklore file. As a tike, I watched that game in a bar of all places. The first time I cried real tears over football.

[zoony]

The comment was made by Matt Millen, then a Raiders lb.

He later played with the Redskins.

Now he's excelling as a GM in Detroit. He's especially good in the first round of the draft.

....

[DieselPwr44]

How bout when Riggo said: "Ronald Reagan may be the President but tonight I'm King!"

[[[ghost]]]

The comment was made by Matt Millen, then a Raiders lb.

He later played with the Redskins.

Now he's excelling as a GM in Detroit. He's especially good in the first round of the draft.

....


He has a keen eye for WRs in the top 10.

[KDawg]

"WE WANT DALLAS" - FedEx Field :)

[Zen-like Todd]

"WE WANT DALLAS" - FedEx Field :)

RFK kiddo, not Fedex.

[KDawg]

RFK kiddo, not Fedex.

Well aware where it originated.

It's louder at FedEx due to it's larger capacity, gramps.

[Zen-like Todd]

Well aware where it originated.

It's louder at FedEx due to it's larger capacity, gramps.


On what planet, exactly?

[KDawg]

Are you disputing the fact that FedEx has a larger capacity than RFK?

RFK: 56,000
Fed Ex: 92,000

Or are you trying to debate that it was louder at RFK?

nearly 40,000 more people say that's not true.

It may have sounded louder at RFK due to the design, but I assure you, it wasn't.

What planet do you reside on?

[Bounce]

I dunno, with RFK's overhang and the pretty well-known ability of overhangs to significantly increase crowd noise, it could very well have been louder.

Plus, have the crowd wasn't too busy eating its Brie.

[KDawg]

I dunno, with RFK's overhang and the pretty well-known ability of overhangs to significantly increase crowd noise, it could very well have been louder.

Plus, have the crowd wasn't too busy eating its Brie.

Like I said, it may have seemed louder due to the design of RFK, but it's doubtful it was. Go ahead and see if you can get all 92,000 people in RFK from FedEx and see what it sounds like.

However, your second point is valid. The wine and cheesers kinda ruin the whole 92,000 thing. :(

[whatmeworry]

Riggins after running for 150-200 yards being asked by a reporter if that was his personal high? "Nah, that'll come in about 30 minutes out in the parking lot"

The man is a quote machine!

[Bangee7]

"I'd run Grimm's mother over too"...

I think that was the exact quote Millen used.

I'm a Penn Stater and even I never liked Millen.
He was an extremely dirty player.
Didn't even care for him when he wore a 'Skins uni.

However, that was a great comeback.

I would've put that one notch ahead of Grimm's.

[Zen-like Todd]

Are you disputing the fact that FedEx has a larger capacity than RFK?

RFK: 56,000
Fed Ex: 92,000

Or are you trying to debate that it was louder at RFK?

nearly 40,000 more people say that's not true.

It may have sounded louder at RFK due to the design, but I assure you, it wasn't.

What planet do you reside on?

Why do people persist in creating alternate questions to which they posit the answer of the other person? Strawman much?

Do you think there's anyone on this board above the age of 12 who isn't familiar with the relative capacities of the stadiums? What's different is that older members of the board were in both stadiums. Different designs, lack of club seats, a far more working class fan base, and on and on, the recollection of people who were actually in that stadium all disagree with you.

Fedex isn't remotely the loudest stadium in the league, despite having the greatest capacity. Funny how that works, isn't it?


Incidentally, your statement about sounding louder without being louder was laugh out loud funny. I'm not holding you to it because it was most likely a slip of the tongue, but it made me laugh.

[ACW]

16 is I think one of the most wrong quotes :doh:

[whatmeworry]

It's also true that since they've moved to Fedex there really hasn't been as much to cheer about. I think the key is how much noise there is on the field. While I have no way of knowing it I'd bet that the noise at ground level was much louder at RFK than
Fedex. I know the stands were a lot closer. I distinctly remember one game during their first Super Bowl year where I could feel the stadium rocking under my feet. Skins 28 Cowpukes 3 in the NFC championship game. Nothing at Fedex even comes close. So far anyway. We need to crank it up!

[Park City Skins]

"People threw dirt on us all year. "They didn't know we had shovels." Monte Coleman after the first round playoff game against the Eagles in 91.



"If he was in a real good mood, he might nod to you,"

"I remember one game he got real carried away. I think he said, `Let's go' about twice."


Gary Clark about the quiet ways of Art Monk,(said in all good humor and respect).



"The only lawyers Cooke liked were his own, and then only marginally," Marvin Demoff,Joe Gibbs lawyer, about JKC.



"But the bottom line is that John Riggins made me famous." Joe Gibbs.

[Cdowwe]

All classics. Thanks for the post

[KDawg]

Why do people persist in creating alternate questions to which they posit the answer of the other person? Strawman much?

Do you think there's anyone on this board above the age of 12 who isn't familiar with the relative capacities of the stadiums? What's different is that older members of the board were in both stadiums. Different designs, lack of club seats, a far more working class fan base, and on and on, the recollection of people who were actually in that stadium all disagree with you.

Fedex isn't remotely the loudest stadium in the league, despite having the greatest capacity. Funny how that works, isn't it?


Incidentally, your statement about sounding louder without being louder was laugh out loud funny. I'm not holding you to it because it was most likely a slip of the tongue, but it made me laugh.

Wasn't a slip of the tongue.

Think about it logically, Todd, if you can manage.

Put the 56,000 people of RFK in FedEx and have them chant.

Put the 92,000 people of FedEx in FedEx and have them chant. Are you trying to tell me the 56,000 will be louder?

If I didn't have to reach to capacity numbers to make you understand, I wouldn't have.

[Zen-like Todd]

Wasn't a slip of the tongue.

Think about it logically, Todd, if you can manage.

Put the 56,000 people of RFK in FedEx and have them chant.

Put the 92,000 people of FedEx in FedEx and have them chant. Are you trying to tell me the 56,000 will be louder?

If I didn't have to reach to capacity numbers to make you understand, I wouldn't have.

It seems that your problem is quite elementary KDawg. You don't even understand what loudness means. It's a function of pressure. You're far too old to need this primer, but you clearly lack the background or ability to figure this out on your own, so I'm going to give you the gift of knowledge, on the odd chance that you'll actually become a more useful human being.

As I mentioned, loudness is a function of sound pressure. You may be familiar with a common representation of loudness. Decibels. Decibels are actually a generic logarithmic measure, but in acoustics, refer to decibels spl (sound pressure level).

What does this mean? It means that the output energy is not what we're concerned about. Intuitively, you must realize this. You encounter it in your daily life. A tiny little headphone earbud can be much louder than a 4x6 speaker only five feet away. Why? The headphone, when seated in your ear, is capable of increasing the sound pressure in the relatively small space of your ear canal. Take the same earbud, hold it in front of your friend, and they can barely hear it. Same "output", completely different sound levels.

It's why people are paid large sums to engineer subwoofer enclosures, concert halls, recording studios, churches, and a million other devices and venues.


One of the previous examples addressed volume of space, and its impact on SPL. Now here's another aspect. Take two similarly sized rooms, and put the same speaker or singer, or screamer(s) in those spaces. One room has walls that reflect sound, and the other has materials that either absorb the sound or allow it to pass through rather easily. Obviously, the room with material that reflects sound back into the central space will result in a higher measured spl in that area, due to increased buildup of the emanations that are not captured in the other room. So now we know that materials are very important. It's why soundproof tiles exist, why materials like dynamat are sold, and why brick walls and dry wall have different sound properties.

Let's keep going. We've addressed the volume of the space, and the choice of materials. We know that a tiny little speaker can sound much much louder than a massive speaker based on placement and volume alone. Now let's talk about design. Sound waves, like many other waves, propagate in predictable fashions. The geometry of your architecture has a huge impact on the way sound travels throughout your space. Columbia's Butler Library, like many other spaces, has an elliptical lobby that shows off the "whisper gallery" effect. despite the fact that the space is large, two people standing in the focii of an ellipse quite a distance apart can hear each other quite easily while speaking at a mere whisper, while those in between can hear neither individual.


Keeping track, we know that volume of space, choice of materials, and geometric properties all have a massive impact on sound levels. We've already established that your argument, if it even qualifies as an argument, is meaningless on these grounds. But lets move on, shall we KDawg?

Your argument was based on numbers. We already know that auditory output has only a loose relationship with overall sound pressure. But lets look at your simplistic representation of that loose relationship.

1) You assume those numbers represent equal proportions of individuals in their seats at each stadium. We know that RFK had no club level and no suites. We know that FedEx has both. We know that the suites and club levels have ample, highly occupied spaces inside the stadiums away from the bowls where individuals sit in bars and lounge areas, or behind glass, watching the game. This tips representation in the favor of RFK.

2) You assume that average output is independent of stadium setup, and this is obviously incorrect. Given higher ticket prices, the advent of directTv, and again suites and club level, fan representation is far less hardcore than it was in the 70s and 80s, when a working class atmosphere prevailed, and wine and cheesers were few and far between. This again tips representation in the favor of RFK.

3) You assume that even if the composition of fans were up to par (already disproved), motivation would be the same. The Redskins of the late 70s and obviously 80s and early 90s were a highly successful team. Fans knew that the product on the field would be of high quality, and it was. They were fully motivated, rabid fans, matching the most rabid college fans of todays games. The current state of affairs from the mid-90s onward has resulted in a far more muted crowd, even at its best.

4) You assume that sold seat capacity equals bodies in seats. A mere glance at the stadium bowl shows an embarassingly significant number of empty seats from ticketholders who arent bothering to show up for games, whether the cause is laziness, traffic, other things to do, cold weather, or the team's poor performance. Again, this tips representation in the favor of RFK.


And obviously, we've already established that the smaller volume, overhangs, choices of material, and construction of RFK have a massive impact on sound level.


I know you regularly get embarassed and pummeled in the tailgate due to your lack of intellectual firepower, but that's no reason to waste my time and the time of others when you don't understand the issues of which you speak. At your age, you should have graduated from college by now. If you havent learned what you don't know, you're far behind the curve, but trust me when I tell you it's the most important thing you could possibly learn. Stop wasting everyone's time Kdawg. Learn something for a change. And be thankful I took the time to educate you.

[jimster]

The late John McKay had a great one...

during the winless days with Tampa, a reporter asked him following a game "What do you think about the execution of your team?"

McKay replied, "I'm all for it."

[bubba9497]

besides RFK had those old metal runners that when you stomped on them sounded like a base drum, plus the smaller confines and circular shape helped the acoustics, where as Fed Ex is more spacious, which allows the sound waves to escape more freely

[MurrayH81]

Well aware where it originated.

It's louder at FedEx due to it's larger capacity, gramps.

It may be louder now, but it meant more then kid.

/hail:helmet:

[whatmeworry]

The late John McKay had a great one...

during the winless days with Tampa, a reporter asked him following a game "What do you think about the execution of your team?"

McKay replied, "I'm all for it."

haHa! No way!

[bigyim]

Kdawg has now learned how deafening silence can be.:silly:



On another note, here's another favorite McKay quote about the Bucs of the '70s--

"well, we couldn't block anyone today...but we made up for it by not tackling."

:laugh:

[master4caster]

http://www.usatoday.com/news/top25-quotes.htm

#20 "I'd run over my own mother to win the Super Bowl."

Russ Grimm, 1984, a Washington Redskin who ended his career as a player with three Super Bowl rings.

Most sources attribute that quote to joe Jacobi. The response "I'd run over Joe's mother, too" is attributed to Matt Millen, then with the Raiders.:laugh:

[Boozie3000]

I dunno, with RFK's overhang and the pretty well-known ability of overhangs to significantly increase crowd noise, it could very well have been louder.

Plus, have the crowd wasn't too busy eating its Brie.
LMAO :laugh: ...mods I thought we had a frog smilie, I need it now

[RedBeast]

KDawg, dont mean to diss you, but uggh, you just got OWNED. Go get 'em "Gramps" I got a switch for dat boy

[BAFGA]

RFK=56000 fans of the Redskins who cheered for the Redskins
FedEx=92000 people in the stadium, but only about half are cheering for the Redskins. the other half are either rooting for the other team, sitting on their hands eating quiche, or in the club level restaurants and bars.

Add to the fact that the temporary seats in RFK shook when you jumped up and down made for RFK being mucho louder.

Young'n, you've got a lot to learn about Redskins history.

[BAFGA]

"I'd run Grimm's mother over too"...

I think that was the exact quote Millen used.

I'm a Penn Stater and even I never liked Millen.
He was an extremely dirty player.
Didn't even care for him when he wore a 'Skins uni.

However, that was a great comeback.

I would've put that one notch ahead of Grimm's.

I forget he was a Redskin sometimes. I remember in Super Bowl XVI he was in street clothes on the sidelines cheering on the Redskins because he was injured. As a commentator he was a Madden wannabe, which spawned a bunch of Madden wannabes (Baldinger for example). How the Ford family saw GM material in him is beyond comprehension.

[Forever21]

That is a beauty of a quote for sure but the reply is even better :laugh:

[CM916]

RFK=56000 fans of the Redskins who cheered for the Redskins
FedEx=92000 people in the stadium, but only about half are cheering for the Redskins. the other half are either rooting for the other team, sitting on their hands eating quiche, or in the club level restaurants and bars.

Add to the fact that the temporary seats in RFK shook when you jumped up and down made for RFK being mucho louder.

Young'n, you've got a lot to learn about Redskins history.

Ive been to RFK but I still have an affection for FedEx and a belief in the 92,000 crowd. The trick to it is giving them something to cheer about. For example, the two weeks during which we heard a very loud "hey, you suck!" cheer for the cowboys and giants games on the way to our 2005 playoff victory. Or more recently, the "we want dallas" heard this last season when the entire Redskins nation united to demand that if we weren't going to win anymore games in 2006, we better beat Dallas. I think both examples worked out pretty well for our team.

Again, the trick to unlocking the power of our stadium is giving everyone something to cheer about. One of my first Redskins memories is the way RFK could shake but even back then, the team was pretty crappy so I doubt what I saw was even close to the super bowl years.

[KDawg]

I don't think I was owned in the least. I still say put the 56,000 in FedEx and it's no where near as loud as the 92,000. Bubba made a great point as far as the metal rafters go.

And whoever said it meant more then, I'll never dispute that.

And you're right Todd, I have no background in sound. I've never taken a single class on sound, and there's plenty of folks out there who haven't. But I maintain the fact that 92,000 > 56,000.

[Zen-like Todd]

I don't think I was owned in the least. I still say put the 56,000 in FedEx and it's no where near as loud as the 92,000. Bubba made a great point as far as the metal rafters go.

And whoever said it meant more then, I'll never dispute that.

And you're right Todd, I have no background in sound. I've never taken a single class on sound, and there's plenty of folks out there who haven't. But I maintain the fact that 92,000 > 56,000.

Go back and re-read the post. Apparently everyone else reading the thread has superior reading comprehension skills. You were utterly destroyed. Bubba was agreeing with me incidentally, so I'm glad you realized he made a good point.

[Dan T.]

I love this quote from Edward Bennett Williams, part owner of the Skins during the George Allen era, about the Coach blowing through money to buy veterans and first-class facilities for the team.

"I gave Coach Allen an unlimited budget, and he exceeded it."

[Mr. S]

I take it FedEx was not built with acoustics in mind like other stadiums were/are. Even if we did put 92,000 rabid fans in FedEx, I wonder if it will be as loud due to the size, (lack of) acoustics of FedEx. Of course that still won't stop me from trying.

Thanks for the inciteful post ZLTodd, I always like learning something new.

[Monkart]

How can Hank Stram not be on that list???? "Hey Ref, your pants should have stripes too, that was criminal!!!! (refering to a bad call).

[SkinsFTW]

But I maintain the fact that 92,000 > 56,000.

Sure, and you probably believe that a 15" woofer on the other side of a room is louder than an inner ear headphone too.

But that still doesn't change the fact that you are wrong.

[SkinsFTW]

How can Hank Stram not be on that list???? "Hey Ref, your pants should have stripes too, that was criminal!!!! (refering to a bad call).

Because it wasn't in the last 25 years.

[Smoot Point Really]

Dexter Manley's "I'm gonna ring his clock" comment regarding Joe Montana.

"70% of the Earth's surface is covered by water, the rest is covered by Smoot"

How could they leave off:

"I'm going to DisneyWorld!" Doug Williams

[KDawg]

Sure, and you probably believe that a 15" woofer on the other side of a room is louder than an inner ear headphone too.

But that still doesn't change the fact that you are wrong.

How am I wrong? You too are trying to say that 56,000 people in FedEx would be louder than 92,000?

[bubba9497]

How can Hank Stram not be on that list???? "Hey Ref, your pants should have stripes too, that was criminal!!!! (refering to a bad call).


Strahm was a hoot

[KDawg]

Go back and re-read the post. Apparently everyone else reading the thread has superior reading comprehension skills. .

I could say the same to you.

I'm arguing that putting 92,000 people in FedEx would be louder than 56,000 people in FedEx.

Just the people. Did I specify that anywhere? No. I didn't think I had to, and to be honest, I didn't think about rafters making noise originally, so that was a great point by bubba.

Acoustics in RFK made it sound loud, sure. But take those same 56,000 and put them in FedEx and it WILL NOT be as loud. Not sure why my point is that hard to comprehend, I don't think I'm speaking German here. On the same coin, take the 92,000 people in FedEx and move them to RFK and it will be louder than RFK ever was with 56,000. It's shear numbers.

[bubba9497]

How am I wrong? You too are trying to say that 56,000 people in FedEx would be louder than 92,000?



if it were the same conditions.... of course not


but that's the point


why are indoor stadiums louder than outdoor stadiums?

[Zen-like Todd]

I could say the same to you.

I'm arguing that putting 92,000 people in FedEx would be louder than 56,000 people in FedEx.

Just the people. Did I specify that anywhere? No. I didn't think I had to, and to be honest, I didn't think about rafters making noise originally, so that was a great point by bubba.

Acoustics in RFK made it sound loud, sure. But take those same 56,000 and put them in FedEx and it WILL NOT be as loud. Not sure why my point is that hard to comprehend, I don't think I'm speaking German here. On the same coin, take the 92,000 people in FedEx and move them to RFK and it will be louder than RFK ever was with 56,000. It's shear numbers.

No you didn't. Look. Stop being an ass. You weren't claiming 56,000 people in fedex were quieter than 92,000 in fedex. At this point I'm calling a spade a spade. You're acting like an immature little brat, and instead of conceding your ignorance, you're running around like an idiot attempting to pretend you said things you didn't say. We know this to be the case because your latest attempt to recast your ignorant statements wouldnt have been remotely relevant to what was being discussed. Grow up, learn something, and move on. It's extremely disrespectful and wasteful of the time of people on this board.

[KDawg]

if it were the same conditions.... of course not


but that's the point


why are indoor stadiums louder than outdoor stadiums?

I concede that RFK was louder due to acoustics. And on that point, Todd was absolutely correct. And your indoor/outdoor comparison is the same answer, acoustics.

However, the point of the last group of my posts was that 92,000 people in FedEx Field would be louder than 56,000 in FedEx Field. And if RFK seated 92,000 it would have been much louder than the 56,000 in RFK. There's probably no direct way to really explain what I'm trying to say, but I'd say there's truth to my statement that 40,000 more people makes a difference in noise.

I'm not trying to act a fool here, I just don't understand how the point of 92,000 > 56,000 is being lost here.

[KDawg]

No you didn't. Look. Stop being an ass. You weren't claiming 56,000 people in fedex were quieter than 92,000 in fedex. At this point I'm calling a spade a spade. You're acting like an immature little brat, and instead of conceding your ignorance, you're running around like an idiot attempting to pretend you said things you didn't say. We know this to be the case because your latest attempt to recast your ignorant statements wouldnt have been remotely relevant to what was being discussed. Grow up, learn something, and move on. It's extremely disrespectful and wasteful of the time of people on this board.


Well aware where it originated.

It's louder at FedEx due to it's larger capacity, gramps.


Are you disputing the fact that FedEx has a larger capacity than RFK?

RFK: 56,000
Fed Ex: 92,000

Or are you trying to debate that it was louder at RFK?

nearly 40,000 more people say that's not true.

It may have sounded louder at RFK due to the design, but I assure you, it wasn't.

What planet do you reside on?

THIS snippet here could have caused some confusion, so to make it easy, I'll explain what I meant. The acoustics at RFK made it louder than the 56,000 people ever could have made it. My posts were all meant to mean the actual people in the stadium, because again, I fully admit to not taking rafters and other things of that nature into consideration.


Like I said, it may have seemed louder due to the design of RFK, but it's doubtful it was. Go ahead and see if you can get all 92,000 people in RFK from FedEx and see what it sounds like.

However, your second point is valid. The wine and cheesers kinda ruin the whole 92,000 thing. :(


Wasn't a slip of the tongue.

Think about it logically, Todd, if you can manage.

Put the 56,000 people of RFK in FedEx and have them chant.

Put the 92,000 people of FedEx in FedEx and have them chant. Are you trying to tell me the 56,000 will be louder?

If I didn't have to reach to capacity numbers to make you understand, I wouldn't have.


I don't think I was owned in the least. I still say put the 56,000 in FedEx and it's no where near as loud as the 92,000. Bubba made a great point as far as the metal rafters go.

And whoever said it meant more then, I'll never dispute that.

And you're right Todd, I have no background in sound. I've never taken a single class on sound, and there's plenty of folks out there who haven't. But I maintain the fact that 92,000 > 56,000.

I'm not being an ass. You're the one who came in here throwing names around and essentially calling me an idiot, not me. I retaliated. Sorry I don't sit back and let you run me down without coming back, I've got a backbone. When I'm poked, I'm going to respond. If YOU had been more respectful, maybe I wouldn't have responded the way I did.

The gist of every single one of my posts was that 92,000 people in RFK or 92,000 people in FedEx would be louder than 56,000 anywhere. I didn't explain it well my first few posts, which is why I went into more depth later.

Again, I'm admitting that you were correct on the acoustics and the metal rafters make RFK louder than just the 56,000 people ever could have, and again, I admit I didn't think of those things. I never went to RFK for an actual game, so those kind of things admittedly slipped my mind. But my point STILL stands. 92,000 people in a specified stadium is louder than 56,000 in a specified stadium.

[Zen-like Todd]

I'm not being an ass. You're the one who came in here throwing names around and essentially calling me an idiot, not me. I retaliated. Sorry I don't sit back and let you run me down without coming back, I've got a backbone. When I'm poked, I'm going to respond. If YOU had been more respectful, maybe I wouldn't have responded the way I did.

You're wrong. I didn't call you an idiot, certainly not to start. I corrected you, and you had the kneejerk response of a 13 year old internet troll. It's not a backbone, it's called being rude. It's not about being run down, it's about LEARNING and realizing when you don't know what you're talking about. You created an unnecessary multipage tangent on this thread. You. All you. Entirely your fault.



The gist of every single one of my posts was that 92,000 people in RFK or 92,000 people in FedEx would be louder than 56,000 anywhere. I didn't explain it well my first few posts, which is why I went into more depth later.


You were wrong, you were corrected. You didn't need to repeat your incorrect assumptions 20 times in some oddly misguided attempt to maintain "board cred".



Again, I'm admitting that you were correct on the acoustics and the metal rafters make RFK louder than just the 56,000 people ever could have, and again, I admit I didn't think of those things. I never went to RFK for an actual game, so those kind of things admittedly slipped my mind. But my point STILL stands. 92,000 people in a specified stadium is louder than 56,000 in a specified stadium.

That wasn't your point. You'll feel much better when you admit that and move on, and abandon whatever odd issues you seem to have with being corrected. Your perspective is completely flipped. Take it as useful and beneficial to you, increasing your knowledge and expertise, rather than an attack on your character. Your current approach is doing nothing to help you, and doing a lot to hurt you.

[zoony]

Wow guys... it's not that big a deal. Really... it's not.


.....

[KDawg]

You're wrong. I didn't call you an idiot, certainly not to start. I corrected you, and you had the kneejerk response of a 13 year old internet troll. It's not a backbone, it's called being rude. It's not about being run down, it's about LEARNING and realizing when you don't know what you're talking about. You created an unnecessary multipage tangent on this thread. You. All you. Entirely your fault.



You were wrong, you were corrected. You didn't need to repeat your incorrect assumptions 20 times in some oddly misguided attempt to maintain "board cred".



That wasn't your point. You'll feel much better when you admit that and move on, and abandon whatever odd issues you seem to have with being corrected. Your perspective is completely flipped. Take it as useful and beneficial to you, increasing your knowledge and expertise, rather than an attack on your character. Your current approach is doing nothing to help you, and doing a lot to hurt you.

How you're going to tell me what my point was is beyond me. I don't care about board cred, I care about respect, and I don't care for hypocrites. You came in here calling me "kiddo" which wasn't just because I'm younger than you. It was a jab at me and we both know it.

I love learning, and you learn from your mistakes. I learned that when thinking about noise in a stadium you have to take in more than just the people. Acoustics, and environmental noise play a large role in making a stadium much louder. I was absolutely wrong in that regard, and I admitted to that, yet you're still on a headhunt.

I'm not wrong about putting the people of FedEx in RFK being louder than the original capacity, and you have yet to admit anything of the sort. I know what I was saying, I explained it incorrectly and I was corrected. If you notice, I wasn't "rude" to bubba or the others who agreed with you. I was rude to you because you were rude to me. It's that simple.

[Dan T.]

So help me God, you two. Don't make me stop this car.

[skinsdude]

Man you guys that are arguing RFK vs. FedEx need to read quote number 22 again. "People, I just want to say, you know, can we all get along" - Rodney King.

[skinsfan44]

RFK=56000 fans of the Redskins who cheered for the Redskins
FedEx=92000 people in the stadium, but only about half are cheering for the Redskins. the other half are either rooting for the other team, sitting on their hands eating quiche, or in the club level restaurants and bars.

Add to the fact that the temporary seats in RFK shook when you jumped up and down made for RFK being mucho louder.

Young'n, you've got a lot to learn about Redskins history.

KDawg, sorry to have to side AGAINST you bro, but RFK has been louder then FedEx Field for the very reason BAFGA listed.

FedEx has more people, but that doesn't mean it is louder.

I have been to almost every game at both RFK and FedEx Field over the last 20+ years and the loudest game I ever attended was the 1988 NFC Championship game against the Vikings.

The Dallas game in '05 (35-7) and the Jags game in OT last year came somewhat close, but in no way has FedEx been louder then RFK.

[dlwredskins]

"70% of the Earth's surface is covered by water, the rest is covered by Smoot"

How could they leave off:



Because it's a LIE...I'm glad Smoot is back but he's been torched sereral times in his first go with the skins...I hope it's better this time....lol

[santana_4_prez]

We're all 'skins fans here, can't we all just get along! Save the bitterness for the enemy!

[G-Prime]

Well aware where it originated.

It's louder at FedEx due to it's larger capacity, gramps.

No it's not.

[KDawg]

No it's not.

Thanks, we've already debated the subject ad nauseum.

[SkinsFTW]

Are you disputing the fact that FedEx has a larger capacity than RFK?

RFK: 56,000
Fed Ex: 92,000

Or are you trying to debate that it was louder at RFK?

nearly 40,000 more people say that's not true.

It may have sounded louder at RFK due to the design, but I assure you, it wasn't.

What planet do you reside on?

Hello man, this was your first point, and it was wrong.

Backtrack all you want but the clue you were given you decided to disregard.

[KDawg]

Hello man, this was your first point, and it was wrong.

Backtrack all you want but the clue you were given you decided to disregard.

Like I said, it was explained wrong. But thank you for putting words in my mouth. I appreciate it.

I also explained in a decent amount of detail why I said what I said in that post earlier in the thread.