Insane Boost = Brunell??

[Skins&Terps07]

Hey Guys,
This is kind of a joke thread, so don't beat me up over it, but stranger things have happened.

I kept on wondering who could possibly still think Brunell was the answer over Campbell. After reading many of Insane Boost's posts, I was convinced he actually did believe that Brunell was better than Campbell and this was not some sort of joke or bet or anything of that nature. Someone out there actually wanted Brunell to be the starter, but who?

At the same time, I had been wondering how Brunell had been handling the fact that he's not gonna be the starter. He probably wasn't taking it too well, probably had a bit more time on his hands as the backup and wanted to find something to do. After doing multiple google and ask jeeves searches of his name to pass time, he came across a post on extremeskins displaying him in quite a negative light. This angered Brunell but also peaked his curiosity and he began to investigate what this message board is all about.

Being the super-smart guy that he is, Mark quickly realized that a thriving message board like extreme could quickly turn public opinion in his favor and give him a shot to regain his place under center once again. After thinking up a few possible board names, InsaneBoost was chosen over BrunellRulz08 because it was decided that flying under the radar would be the best approach.

Armed with his newfound board identity, Brunell set out to defend his name and to get the greatest fans of the greatest team back on his side. If the public was calling, no better yet, begging for him to replace Campbell as the starter, Gibbs would have a much easier time pulling the trigger and making the switch if Campbell made some unfourtunate rookie mistakes. Soon he would lead the team back to playoff glory, one dumpoff to Betts at a time.

I don't know if it's really Brunell, but there are always rumors on this board that some of the people work for the Skins or have deep connections within the organization. So why not a player? Whoever it is, they are of course entitled to their opinion. This is what happens when the season is 4 months away and the boredom sets in.

HTTR:cheers:

[SkinsFanAnt]

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[Voice of Reason]

Brunell is better than Campbell (at this point in his career). I think many people would agree.

[staticmc13]

JC= TD throw in every game he has played in nfl.

[Lloyds' Mongolian Beef]

Brunell is better than Campbell (at this point in his career). I think many people would agree.I don't think many would agree with you. Brunell > Campbell ? If Brunell is better, why did a rookie have more success and seem more comfortable in the offense? Our best hope as a franchise is to have Brunell retire this offseason.

[JRAB]

While nobody knows for sure if Campbell is going to be any good or not... everyone is pretty darn sure that Brunell is done in the NFL.

[willmb5]

brunell is awful. campbell's threat to throw the deep ball immediately made him better in the offense and freed up the running game a little bit. throw in his other skills and he is way better than brunell (at this point)

[Failing2BOptimistic]

Hey Guys,
This is kind of a joke thread, so don't beat me up over it, but stranger things have happened.

I kept on wondering who could possibly still think Brunell was the answer over Campbell. After reading many of Insane Boost's posts, I was convinced he actually did believe that Brunell was better than Campbell and this was not some sort of joke or bet or anything of that nature. Someone out there actually wanted Brunell to be the starter, but who?

At the same time, I had been wondering how Brunell had been handling the fact that he's not gonna be the starter. He probably wasn't taking it too well, probably had a bit more time on his hands as the backup and wanted to find something to do. After doing multiple google and ask jeeves searches of his name to pass time, he came across a post on extremeskins displaying him in quite a negative light. This angered Brunell but also peaked his curiosity and he began to investigate what this message board is all about.

Being the super-smart guy that he is, Mark quickly realized that a thriving message board like extreme could quickly turn public opinion in his favor and give him a shot to regain his place under center once again. After thinking up a few possible board names, InsaneBoost was chosen over BrunellRulz08 because it was decided that flying under the radar would be the best approach.

Armed with his newfound board identity, Brunell set out to defend his name and to get the greatest fans of the greatest team back on his side. If the public was calling, no better yet, begging for him to replace Campbell as the starter, Gibbs would have a much easier time pulling the trigger and making the switch if Campbell made some unfourtunate rookie mistakes. Soon he would lead the team back to playoff glory, one dumpoff to Betts at a time.

I don't know if it's really Brunell, but there are always rumors on this board that some of the people work for the Skins or have deep connections within the organization. So why not a player? Whoever it is, they are of course entitled to their opinion. This is what happens when the season is 4 months away and the boredom sets in.

HTTR:cheers:

Did you know my neighbor has rabbits??

[ceviker]

LMAO... intriguing. Perhaps this is the real reason why Brunell "can't" practice in OTAs?

Its all making sense now. In a 24-esque way :cool:

[Voice of Reason]

I don't think many would agree with you. Brunell > Campbell ? If Brunell is better, why did a rookie have more success and seem more comfortable in the offense? Our best hope as a franchise is to have Brunell retire this offseason.

Why did Campbell have more success you ask? First off, it is debatable whether or not Campbell did actually have more success. Brunell had a better winning percentage as a starter at 3-6 than did Campbell at 2-5. While the offense as a whole improved under Campbell, the passing game regressed.

Campbell had the benefit of a prolific running game, accompanied by Gibbs' return to smashmouth football after the Tampa Bay game. Some might say that our success running the football was a result of opponent's respect for Campbell's deep ball, but that was not the case. Brunell did not have the benefit of a similar running game, yet still quarterbacked a more productive passing game. In games where the Redskins ran the ball effectively (Jacksonville, Houston, and the second Dallas game), Brunell had very productive outings. Though Campbell was the beneficiary of strong running game in all but one of his starts, he had few stellar outings.

Again, I'm not suggesting that we replace Campbell because that would set the franchise back. However, Brunell is the better quarterback right now.

[Petey_Crack]

LMAO... intriguing. Perhaps this is the real reason why Brunell "can't" practice in OTAs?

Its all making sense now. In a 24-esque way :cool:

loving the sig

[sableholic]

did this thread really need to be made?

[ScottAH87]

you know ive seen insane boosts posts so i find this pretty funny. and he does seem to hate campbell alot. anyways thank you Skins&Terps07 (http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/member.php?u=61572), i needed a good laugh

[FUBAR]

I think you need to rename this thread > Voice of Reason = Brunell. :doh: I can't believe you're still arguing about this ****.

Insane Boost must be Brunell's madre.

[520skins]

you guys are all too gullable, i've talked to insaneboost many times and he does it purposely to egg you guys on, just like all his trade portis posts, because it's obvious you guys jump all over it like a lion on a gazelle :doh:

[FUBAR]

nah, i don't believe you talk to insaneboost all the time, 520. HA gullable my anus. :D

[alwaysaskin]

Lokk here's what I think about Brunell, he is a good QB and a good guy off the field, that being said, he is at the Joe Namath-When his knees went out stage. Mark is not capable of staying healthy in a 16 game season. Campbell is younger and more athletic and his time is now, Mark is beaten up and injury prone but he is a perfect back up who will excel in a short stint in relief of Campbell. JC will be effective as a starter he is our franchise guy.

[SkinsFTW]

Brunell is better than Campbell (at this point in his career). I think many people would agree.


This guy, for example:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e83/andrwhayess11/crackhead.jpg

[ArmchairRedskin]

you guys are all too gullable, i've talked to insaneboost many times and he does it purposely to egg you guys on, just like all his trade portis posts, because it's obvious you guys jump all over it like a lion on a gazelle :doh:



Wow, thats kewl.

[ceviker]

loving the sig

Unlike Brunell, I don't think it'll ever get old.

[ceviker]

This guy, for example:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e83/andrwhayess11/crackhead.jpg

LMFGDAO.

[Skins&Terps07]

This guy, for example:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e83/andrwhayess11/crackhead.jpg

Hahaha. Good one.:laugh:

[Skinz_4_life]

Why did Campbell have more success you ask? First off, it is debatable whether or not Campbell did actually have more success. Brunell had a better winning percentage as a starter at 3-6 than did Campbell at 2-5. While the offense as a whole improved under Campbell, the passing game regressed.

Campbell had the benefit of a prolific running game, accompanied by Gibbs' return to smashmouth football after the Tampa Bay game. Some might say that our success running the football was a result of opponent's respect for Campbell's deep ball, but that was not the case. Brunell did not have the benefit of a similar running game, yet still quarterbacked a more productive passing game. In games where the Redskins ran the ball effectively (Jacksonville, Houston, and the second Dallas game), Brunell had very productive outings. Though Campbell was the beneficiary of strong running game in all but one of his starts, he had few stellar outings.

Again, I'm not suggesting that we replace Campbell because that would set the franchise back. However, Brunell is the better quarterback right now.


did brunell have a different offensive line or something?? and last time i checked cp's better then betts.... ur right when he was in the line up they did run it more effectively and it was because they respected the pass..

they stacked the box when brunell played because they didnt respect his passing and in stacking the box they stuffed our running game thats why it wasnt good when brunell played.....

and those game where u mentioned that brunell had a productive outing because of the running game is because the offensive line completely dominated... in campbells game they respected him

wow im amazed that people still thing that brunell is the better QB :doh: :slap:

[desioreo87]

Why did Campbell have more success you ask? First off, it is debatable whether or not Campbell did actually have more success. Brunell had a better winning percentage as a starter at 3-6 than did Campbell at 2-5. While the offense as a whole improved under Campbell, the passing game regressed.

Campbell had the benefit of a prolific running game, accompanied by Gibbs' return to smashmouth football after the Tampa Bay game. Some might say that our success running the football was a result of opponent's respect for Campbell's deep ball, but that was not the case. Brunell did not have the benefit of a similar running game, yet still quarterbacked a more productive passing game. In games where the Redskins ran the ball effectively (Jacksonville, Houston, and the second Dallas game), Brunell had very productive outings. Though Campbell was the beneficiary of strong running game in all but one of his starts, he had few stellar outings.

Again, I'm not suggesting that we replace Campbell because that would set the franchise back. However, Brunell is the better quarterback right now.

The most ridiculous post i have read in a while.

The reason why Brunell didn't have an effective running game was a direct result of brunell himself. We never were able to open up running lanes because of our short passing game and brunell's unwillingness to throw the deep ball every once in a while. Teams had 8 in the box which was effective against both the run and the pass while Brunell was at the helm.

Campbell came in and in his FIRST throw went long which immediately provided the threat of the deep game which we had sorely been missing for the whole first half of the season. This moved the defense back and allowed Betts to have running lanes, which would have been much better exploited by Portis, and average his 4.7 ypc. And do not bring up that ridiculous houston game in support of brunell. The dude threw maybe 2 or 3 passes past 5 yards in that game.

The only thing that Brunell has on Campbell at the moment is that he is a more accurate passer.

CAmpbell has more poise
Campbell has more pocket presence
Campbell has a better arm
Campbell has more mobility
CAmpbell provides a deep ball

At this point CAmpbell is a much better QB than Brunell and that was evidenced by his play in the last 7 games of the season. If you watched them you would realize that if Campbell had a mediocre defense we woulda won 2 or 3 more games, most notably against the Falcons, Iggles, Rams, and the Giants in which he had prolly his best game.

[skinpride1]

Like I have said before about Brunell. I think he is a great guy and maybe one day will be a NFl coach but right now please just step aside and let Campell take over. The other fact is Brunell will not come out of the game when he is hurt and can't make a pass over 25 yards!! 2004 played when he was hurt and end of 2005 season was hurt,2006 same thing. Can't stay healthy to give us one full season-WE CAN"T HAVE THIS!!

[Skinz_4_life]

This guy, for example:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e83/andrwhayess11/crackhead.jpg


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :notworthy

[TK]

Boosterseat ain't Brunell.

Jury's still out on the Insane part though.

[Spartacus87]

Why did Campbell have more success you ask? First off, it is debatable whether or not Campbell did actually have more success.... Again, I'm not suggesting that we replace Campbell because that would set the franchise back. However, Brunell is the better quarterback right now. As others have already said- Brunell limited the running game himself by being completely unwilling to even attempt deep passes, rather, he'd roll out and desperately look for a RB in the flat or he'd simply throw it out of bounds. You can't establish a running game with 8 or 9 in the box.

Basically, manipulate the past however you want, but if you honestly believe Brunell was so good, you should recall the Titans game that he essentially gave up on in the 4th quarter, throwing a crucial and stupid pick, leading to the Titans cheering "thank you Brunell!" in the lockerroom immediately afterwards. Or since you brought up that Dallas game where he supposedly had such a good performance, the same game where the tide was completely turned the moment he threw an unbelievably bad interception to Roy Williams in the end zone.

By comparison, go back and watch Campbell versus the Giants, where Campbell completely outplayed the "great" Eli Manning and fought like hell until the very end, when our defense folded and lost us the game. It's not even close who the better QB is RIGHT at this moment.

[Spartacus87]

you guys are all too gullable, i've talked to insaneboost many times and he does it purposely to egg you guys on, just like all his trade portis posts, because it's obvious you guys jump all over it like a lion on a gazelle :doh: If true, that's actually the absolute lamest thing I've heard of on Extremeskins in a really long time- it's one thing to be actually crazy (coughMassSkinsFancough;) ), but another to pretend so just to annoy the rest of the board.

[Cliffmark1]

ROFL

:laugh:


This guy, for example:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e83/andrwhayess11/crackhead.jpg

[Passizle]

Not to complain... but WTF is prolly? I see people post this word all of the time. The word is probably. Learn it... love it... its the english language dammit! If you are past the fourth grade, you should know this.

HTTR!!!

That is all.

[InsaneBoost]

Damn I never thought I'd see this day.

But no I am not Brunell, unfortunately; I wish I was though!

[JaimeDeCurry]

Not to complain... but WTF is prolly? I see people post this word all of the time. The word is probably. Learn it... love it... it's the English language, dammit! If you are past the fourth grade, you should know this.

HTTR!!!

That is all.

Red marks made by your fourth grade English teacher.

:D

[InsaneBoost]

Red marks made by your fourth grade English teacher.

:D


Why does there need to be a comma after language? Seems like it doesn't even belong there considering he is saying damnit with it. It's not like he is saying all of that to pause and then say damnit.

[JaimeDeCurry]

Commas routinely go before interjections (or hyphens, if you want to go that route) and exclamations (which are not preceded by hyphens). "Dammit!" is an exclamation just like "for Pete's sake!" or "by golly!", so you would lead with a comma.

Also, think if he had led the sentence with "dammit." Then it would be "Dammit, it's the English language!" instead of "Dammit it's the English language."

[InsaneBoost]

I don't know, you having it before English Language makes perfect sense to me, however, having it after doesn't, oh well, minus one for me.


I think I type / write pretty good for the most part so :D

[JaimeDeCurry]

I don't know, you having it before English Language makes perfect sense to me, however, having it after doesn't, oh well, minus one for me.


I think I type / write pretty good for the most part so :D

Can you tell it's finals week? :doh:

[InsaneBoost]

Can you tell it's finals week? :doh:

Yes I can :laugh:

[Justsomeguy]

We are going to be "reborn" with a new QB. So unfortunately out with the old and in with the new.

[Loxley]

Prolly is just another internet abbreviation sneaking its dastardly way into modern language. Its in the same boat as "gonna" as in "we are gonna win the sb this year blah blah". I gave up ragging on peoples spelling/grammar a long time ago as any fool with a keyboard can become a blogger/forum spammer these days and the quality of the language has slipped immensely.

As for Insaneboost being Brunell, this is the guy who was unsure what "trading down" was recently. I doubt he is THE Brunell, prolly (ooh pasizzle hate me now!) just another fanatic supporter who has differing views to the majority here.

As for that crap about he posts to wind people up.... well thats just damaging to a guys reputation tbh. I never thought id see a redskins troll....

Still all in good fun eh guys.

[d0ublestr0ker0ll]

I don't know, you having it before English Language makes perfect sense to me, however, having it after doesn't, oh well, minus one for me.


I think I type / write pretty well for the most part so :D

:laugh:

[Forever21]

Brunell or Campbell...blah blah blah...

Screw it...I have a new theory...maybe I should start a new thread...nah...here it goes...

All of this Brunell/Campbell stuff only gets overshadowed when Smooth/Rogers/Springs debates start as to who the starters will be...

Well...has anyone considered that maybe Smoot was brought in to compete with Brunell/Campbell for the starting gig and not Rogers/Springs...

Just saying...

[Om]

you guys are all too gullable, i've talked to insaneboost many times and he does it purposely to egg you guys on, just like all his trade portis posts, because it's obvious you guys jump all over it like a lion on a gazelle :doh:

Oh, I dunno. Sometimes the problem just kinda of takes care of itself. (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3728266100951844857)

[aussieskin]

I dont know which one is the better at the moment but i do think that JC will be better for having the experience of MB to fall back on and to learn from

[Taylorfan2179]

Can you tell it's finals week? :doh:

Don't speak of such things here, it is my retreat from the insanity that surrounds my life now.

[Bang]

In my mind Brunell started last year the following reason.
Campbell wasn't ready. No matter how well he showed at the end of the year, it should not be discounted that the team had by that point gotten somewhat comfortable with the new offense that Saunders installed. To have put Campbell in back in September may have been disastrous to his development. One of the things you want with a young QB is for the rest of the offense to be able to help him thru his initial rough patches, but if everyone is learning the new offense at the same time, there is none of that help.
Brunell was started to help the offense over the initial hump, the thinking being his veteran savvy would be able to compensate for the team all on the same learning curve. Unfortunately, his lack of arm compounded with his shoulder injury made it impossible for him to throw more than 4 or 5 feet.

~Bang

[CPortJGibbs89]

Well if Insane Boost is Brunell then Brunell also likes hondas, I am a member at this site www.honda-tech.com and Insane Boost is a member as well.

[JC girl]

I love how everyone went to this thread and starting arguing that Campbell is better than Brunell, so not about that...hehe.

I enjoyed it. Made me chuckle.

[Peregrine]

Why did Campbell have more success you ask? First off, it is debatable whether or not Campbell did actually have more success. Brunell had a better winning percentage as a starter at 3-6 than did Campbell at 2-5. While the offense as a whole improved under Campbell, the passing game regressed.

Campbell had the benefit of a prolific running game, accompanied by Gibbs' return to smashmouth football after the Tampa Bay game. Some might say that our success running the football was a result of opponent's respect for Campbell's deep ball, but that was not the case. Brunell did not have the benefit of a similar running game, yet still quarterbacked a more productive passing game. In games where the Redskins ran the ball effectively (Jacksonville, Houston, and the second Dallas game), Brunell had very productive outings. Though Campbell was the beneficiary of strong running game in all but one of his starts, he had few stellar outings.

Again, I'm not suggesting that we replace Campbell because that would set the franchise back. However, Brunell is the better quarterback right now.

Yes, you are absolutely correct. Lets bring back that 3-6 Brunell record, because if that doesnt scream success, I dont know what does. Given a few years, when Brunell matures and reaches his peak(rookies never perform that well) I expect too see better numbers.

And you are absolutely correct on how well he pass last year. In fact, he lead all NFL QBs in passing behind the line of scrimmage. He led the NFL in TDs, QB rating, Comp % behind the line of scrimmage. One thing NFL coaches always look for out of college is a guy who can throw that 0 yard pass, its something you are born with, you cant learn it. I think Brunell exemplifies that, and will have a very succesful NFL career, once he gets his bearings. Nevermind he couldnt throw the ball down the field(bottom of the NFL in that category), or that he took 10 yard drops in the pocket, those are things all young QBs struggle with, and he will get better at as his career progresses.

Im looking eagerly forward to the future, to see how this young Brunell matures. Its exciting.

[JohnnyUtah]

Yes, you are absolutely correct. Lets bring back that 3-6 Brunell record, because if that doesnt scream success, I dont know what does. Given a few years, when Brunell matures and reaches his peak(rookies never perform that well) I expect too see better numbers.

And you are absolutely correct on how well he pass last year. In fact, he lead all NFL QBs in passing behind the line of scrimmage. He led the NFL in TDs, QB rating, Comp % behind the line of scrimmage. One thing NFL coaches always look for out of college is a guy who can throw that 0 yard pass, its something you are born with, you cant learn it. I think Brunell exemplifies that, and will have a very succesful NFL career, once he gets his bearings. Nevermind he couldnt throw the ball down the field(bottom of the NFL in that category), or that he took 10 yard drops in the pocket, those are things all young QBs struggle with, and he will get better at as his career progresses.

Im looking eagerly forward to the future, to see how this young Brunell matures. Its exciting.



I couldn't stop laughing at this post.

http://www.readexpress.com/read_freeride/photos/2006-11-20-campbell.jpg
Let's have a moment of silence...for Mark Brunell's career...

[Skins&Terps07]

I love how everyone went to this thread and starting arguing that Campbell is better than Brunell, so not about that...hehe.

I enjoyed it. Made me chuckle.

Well I figured that eventually this was gonna start the argument about Campbell vs. Brunell. Glad you enjoyed it.

[monkforhall]

Oh, I dunno. Sometimes the problem just kinda of takes care of itself. (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3728266100951844857)


LOL. I've never seen that video, that is hilarious. Perfect.:notworthy

[Flycoach]

Man, if you're that bored, go by a PS3 or something.

[onnie007]

I couldn't stop laughing at this post.

http://www.readexpress.com/read_freeride/photos/2006-11-20-campbell.jpg
Let's have a moment of silence...for Mark Brunell's career...

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :no:

[desioreo87]

Yes, you are absolutely correct. Lets bring back that 3-6 Brunell record, because if that doesnt scream success, I dont know what does. Given a few years, when Brunell matures and reaches his peak(rookies never perform that well) I expect too see better numbers.

And you are absolutely correct on how well he pass last year. In fact, he lead all NFL QBs in passing behind the line of scrimmage. He led the NFL in TDs, QB rating, Comp % behind the line of scrimmage. One thing NFL coaches always look for out of college is a guy who can throw that 0 yard pass, its something you are born with, you cant learn it. I think Brunell exemplifies that, and will have a very succesful NFL career, once he gets his bearings. Nevermind he couldnt throw the ball down the field(bottom of the NFL in that category), or that he took 10 yard drops in the pocket, those are things all young QBs struggle with, and he will get better at as his career progresses.

Im looking eagerly forward to the future, to see how this young Brunell matures. Its exciting.

Absolutely brilliant. Well said. I haven't seen the dude back here yet and therefore i think he has accepted his loss.

[Mackdaddydean]

Not to complain... but WTF is prolly? I see people post this word all of the time. The word is probably. Learn it... love it... its the english language dammit! If you are past the fourth grade, you should know this.

HTTR!!!

That is all.

If you're looking to change people's ways...then thats prolly not gunna happen.

[2006Skins]

I couldn't stop laughing at this post.

http://www.readexpress.com/read_freeride/photos/2006-11-20-campbell.jpg
Let's have a moment of silence...for Mark Brunell's career...


:notworthy :notworthy :notworthy :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Couldn't stop laughing at this...

[JaimeDeCurry]

Man, if you're that bored, go by a PS3 or something.

Ahem. I think you meant to say XBOX360 (http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=197864).

[spidernat]

Brunell is better than Campbell (at this point in his career). I think many people would agree.


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[InsaneBoost]

Well if Insane Boost is Brunell then Brunell also likes hondas, I am a member at this site www.honda-tech.com (http://www.honda-tech.com) and Insane Boost is a member as well.


That wouldn't be me ;)

However, I am a member of that site :D

[pjfootballer]

Yes, you are absolutely correct. Lets bring back that 3-6 Brunell record, because if that doesnt scream success, I dont know what does. Given a few years, when Brunell matures and reaches his peak(rookies never perform that well) I expect too see better numbers.

And you are absolutely correct on how well he pass last year. In fact, he lead all NFL QBs in passing behind the line of scrimmage. He led the NFL in TDs, QB rating, Comp % behind the line of scrimmage. One thing NFL coaches always look for out of college is a guy who can throw that 0 yard pass, its something you are born with, you cant learn it. I think Brunell exemplifies that, and will have a very succesful NFL career, once he gets his bearings. Nevermind he couldnt throw the ball down the field(bottom of the NFL in that category), or that he took 10 yard drops in the pocket, those are things all young QBs struggle with, and he will get better at as his career progresses.

Im looking eagerly forward to the future, to see how this young Brunell matures. Its exciting.

Funny. :laugh:


Oh, I dunno. Sometimes the problem just kinda of takes care of itself. (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3728266100951844857)

Funnier. :laugh: :laugh:


I couldn't stop laughing at this post.

http://www.readexpress.com/read_freeride/photos/2006-11-20-campbell.jpg
Let's have a moment of silence...for Mark Brunell's career...

Funniest. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


And by the way, Scott Boonell>Mark Brunell.

[CPortJGibbs89]

That wouldn't be me ;)

However, I am a member of that site :Dhaha I wasnt sure if you had the same username or not but I was positive you were a member there as well. Pretty good site alot of funny ass people there.

[InsaneBoost]

haha I wasnt sure if you had the same username or not but I was positive you were a member there as well. Pretty good site alot of funny ass people there.

Yeah, I am R34-Skyline on there, I made that name awhile back when my brother was still owning the streets of NOVA with his coupe.

I don't really post on there much, I am on Drag VA though.

I think its vadriven now or something.

[CPortJGibbs89]

Yeah, I am R34-Skyline on there, I made that name awhile back when my brother was still owning the streets of NOVA with his coupe.

I don't really post on there much, I am on Drag VA though.

I think its vadriven now or something.I am cyphergs-r I was on there a good bit when I had my integra gsr and I dont really post there much kinda just read the GDD.. good stuff man

[InsaneBoost]

Thought I'd ask you, ever see his Red Coupe around Sterling back in 2002-2003, EXOWNZU was the tags.


You would remember it by.

Huge Drag Radials
Huge Front Mount
And Sounding like an Airplane

[CPortJGibbs89]

Thought I'd ask you, ever see his Red Coupe around Sterling back in 2002-2003, EXOWNZU was the tags.


You would remember it by.

Huge Drag Radials
Huge Front Mount
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[InsaneBoost]

Yea I am pretty positive I remember seeing that tag before..

Yeah, we went out to Baltimore / Rockville a lot.

We also use to meet up at the Burger King in Manassas, now all that place is, is none turbod cars, pretty much teenage meet up, real bad place now.


But yeah, we went to MD a lot, use to destroy cars out there :laugh:

But nothing compares to the rich momma boy in Burke, we crushed that kid bad :laugh:

[Voice of Reason]

Yes, you are absolutely correct. Lets bring back that 3-6 Brunell record, because if that doesnt scream success, I dont know what does. Given a few years, when Brunell matures and reaches his peak(rookies never perform that well) I expect too see better numbers.

And you are absolutely correct on how well he pass last year. In fact, he lead all NFL QBs in passing behind the line of scrimmage. He led the NFL in TDs, QB rating, Comp % behind the line of scrimmage. One thing NFL coaches always look for out of college is a guy who can throw that 0 yard pass, its something you are born with, you cant learn it. I think Brunell exemplifies that, and will have a very succesful NFL career, once he gets his bearings. Nevermind he couldnt throw the ball down the field(bottom of the NFL in that category), or that he took 10 yard drops in the pocket, those are things all young QBs struggle with, and he will get better at as his career progresses.

Im looking eagerly forward to the future, to see how this young Brunell matures. Its exciting.

In defense of Campbell, you point out that Brunell’s record was 3-6, while Campbell’s record was worse at 2-5?

If Brunell is so awful and Campbell is so terrific, how did Brunell finish with higher completion percentage, higher yards per attempt, fewer interceptions, and a higher passer rating? Brunell can’t throw the ball past the line of scrimmage, but he manages a higher yards per pass attempt? There is something to be said for the quarterback who can complete short, precise passes while taking care of the football. Over the years, fans of Washington have booted quarterbacks like Brad Johnson and Mark Brunell (smart and accurate, but not flashy), while becoming enamored with quarterbacks like Jeff George, Patrick Ramsey, and Jason Campell (have monster arms, but aren’t good quarterbacks). The jury is still out on Campbell, but I wasn’t overly encouraged with Campbell as capable of being a franchise quarterback. The biggest issue with Campbell is the fact that he simply isn’t a very accurate passer. On far too many occasions, Campbell threw inaccurate passes to wide open receivers.

[Skins&Terps07]

In defense of Campbell, you point out that Brunell’s record was 3-6, while Campbell’s record was worse at 2-5?

If Brunell is so awful and Campbell is so terrific, how did Brunell finish with higher completion percentage, higher yards per attempt, fewer interceptions, and a higher passer rating? Brunell can’t throw the ball past the line of scrimmage, but he manages a higher yards per pass attempt? There is something to be said for the quarterback who can complete short, precise passes while taking care of the football. Over the years, fans of Washington have booted quarterbacks like Brad Johnson and Mark Brunell (smart and accurate, but not flashy), while becoming enamored with quarterbacks like Jeff George, Patrick Ramsey, and Jason Campell (have monster arms, but aren’t good quarterbacks). The jury is still out on Campbell, but I wasn’t overly encouraged with Campbell as capable of being a franchise quarterback. The biggest issue with Campbell is the fact that he simply isn’t a very accurate passer. On far too many occasions, Campbell threw inaccurate passes to wide open receivers.

1) Brunell had a higher completion percentage because he threw MUCH shorter, safer passes... thus completing more passes (such as a swing pass to a back)

2) Brunell had more yards per attempt because that includes what the runner does after catch, not how far the ball was thrown. So if Brunell throws a slightly forward pass to Betts, and then he runs it for 50 yards, that counts as a 50 yard pass. So in fact, Brunell can barely throw past the line of scrimmage and still have higher yards per attempt than Campbell. Think of it like this... if I shoot 10 layups and make 8, then ive shot 80%. Then if you shoot 10 three pointers and make 6 of them, youve shot 60%. On the surface it would seem that I am a better shooter but its not even close to a fair comparrison.

3) and speaking of inaccurate passes. How about all the times Brunell threw the ball into the stands instead of even attempting to find a reciever. Was that innaucrate enough for you?

Brunells numbers often look good because he is unwilling to take chances. Defenses dont respect his long ball so they load the box and this creates all sorts of problems. Its very easy to never miss a shot if you dont take any.

[ceviker]

In defense of Campbell, you point out that Brunell’s record was 3-6, while Campbell’s record was worse at 2-5?

If Brunell is so awful and Campbell is so terrific, how did Brunell finish with higher completion percentage, higher yards per attempt, fewer interceptions, and a higher passer rating? Brunell can’t throw the ball past the line of scrimmage, but he manages a higher yards per pass attempt? There is something to be said for the quarterback who can complete short, precise passes while taking care of the football. Over the years, fans of Washington have booted quarterbacks like Brad Johnson and Mark Brunell (smart and accurate, but not flashy), while becoming enamored with quarterbacks like Jeff George, Patrick Ramsey, and Jason Campell (have monster arms, but aren’t good quarterbacks). The jury is still out on Campbell, but I wasn’t overly encouraged with Campbell as capable of being a franchise quarterback. The biggest issue with Campbell is the fact that he simply isn’t a very accurate passer. On far too many occasions, Campbell threw inaccurate passes to wide open receivers.

Couple options here:

(1) You're joking
(2) You're senial
(3) You've never seen Brunell and Campbell play
(4) You know next to nothing about football

I'm leaning towards the latter. I'm going to say this once and only once: STATS AREN'T EVERYTHING! According to "stats", Brunell is the 10th highest rated passer IN NFL HISTORY. Is Brunell, even in his hayday, a Top 10 in NFL History QB? No. He's not even a Top 100. Not even close. His best years, his pro bowl years, he was Top 5 CURRENTLY, in that year.

Despite my signature, if you look at my posts before mid-late last year, I defended Brunell. When people bad motuhed him, I defended him. Truth is, I defended him for too long. Brunell is an average QB in the NFL currently if he's 110% healthy. If he so much as has a bruise on his elbow, he's in the worst 5. Easily. Don't believe me? Watch the games last year. There were several games were he looked DAMNED awful - 1st dallas game, tennesse game, 1st philly game, etc.

This is a guy who's been our starter for 3 years basically. He's a vetern QB, supposed to be comfortable with the players, etc. He had ALL off-season to learn Al's system. Practiced EVERYDAY with the 1st team. And look at what he did - jack ****.

In comes Campbell. Never played a down in the NFL. Forget about the ENTIRE off-season to work with the receivers - he didn't take any snaps with them EVER because Collins was the backup! The FIRST time he took snaps with them is 1 week before TB game. 1 ****ING week! And what does he do? 2 td's, 0 int's. But again, stats do not tell the story. Campbell's passes looked crisp. He looked like a genuine leader out there. And when we were down by 2 scores late, he ****ing took control of HIS team, in his FIRST start, and marched right down the field and got us a touchdown. He fought hard and showed all the things you want to see from a franchise QB - accuracy, leadership, the deep ball, the short routes, moving out of the pocket, and the ability to drive the team. Yeah, he made mistakes. Excuse him for not being perfect in his 1st HALF season.

I agree with you on one thing - we haven't seen enough to know for sure that he is our franchise QB. And the ONLY reason we are not sure of that is because you can't make that decesion on ANYONE in that short of a time. We will find that out this year, since he has the entire off-season to work with the offense. But to say "you weren't overally encouraged" is just out of this world. He showed us more than enough to get us excited that we found our man. He just needs to go and prove it now.

And to say he's not an accurate passer is ludacris. If retards like Lloyd stop dropping his passes, his accuracy STAT <cough, cough> will go up. And if you look at current franchise QBs (manning, palmer, mcnabb) you will see they weren't superstars in their 1st 7 starts either. I wonder why? Maybe their teams should have started old QBs with noodle arms to play instead.

Look, I realize this is a fourm where people come and state their opinions. But to tell me the sky is orange is insanity. So please, everyone - stop this Brunell talk.

[pjfootballer]

Couple options here:

(1) You're joking
(2) You're senial
(3) You've never seen Brunell and Campbell play
(4) You know next to nothing about football

I'm leaning towards the latter. I'm going to say this once and only once: STATS AREN'T EVERYTHING! According to "stats", Brunell is the 10th highest rated passer IN NFL HISTORY. Is Brunell, even in his hayday, a Top 10 in NFL History QB? No. He's not even a Top 100. Not even close. His best years, his pro bowl years, he was Top 5 CURRENTLY, in that year.

Despite my signature, if you look at my posts before mid-late last year, I defended Brunell. When people bad motuhed him, I defended him. Truth is, I defended him for too long. Brunell is an average QB in the NFL currently if he's 110% healthy. If he so much as has a bruise on his elbow, he's in the worst 5. Easily. Don't believe me? Watch the games last year. There were several games were he looked DAMNED awful - 1st dallas game, tennesse game, 1st philly game, etc.

This is a guy who's been our starter for 3 years basically. He's a vetern QB, supposed to be comfortable with the players, etc. He had ALL off-season to learn Al's system. Practiced EVERYDAY with the 1st team. And look at what he did - jack ****.

In comes Campbell. Never played a down in the NFL. Forget about the ENTIRE off-season to work with the receivers - he didn't take any snaps with them EVER because Collins was the backup! The FIRST time he took snaps with them is 1 week before TB game. 1 ****ING week! And what does he do? 2 td's, 0 int's. But again, stats do not tell the story. Campbell's passes looked crisp. He looked like a genuine leader out there. And when we were down by 2 scores late, he ****ing took control of HIS team, in his FIRST start, and marched right down the field and got us a touchdown. He fought hard and showed all the things you want to see from a franchise QB - accuracy, leadership, the deep ball, the short routes, moving out of the pocket, and the ability to drive the team. Yeah, he made mistakes. Excuse him for not being perfect in his 1st HALF season.

I agree with you on one thing - we haven't seen enough to know for sure that he is our franchise QB. And the ONLY reason we are not sure of that is because you can't make that decesion on ANYONE in that short of a time. We will find that out this year, since he has the entire off-season to work with the offense. But to say "you weren't overally encouraged" is just out of this world. He showed us more than enough to get us excited that we found our man. He just needs to go and prove it now.

And to say he's not an accurate passer is ludacris. If retards like Lloyd stop dropping his passes, his accuracy STAT <cough, cough> will go up. And if you look at current franchise QBs (manning, palmer, mcnabb) you will see they weren't superstars in their 1st 7 starts either. I wonder why? Maybe their teams should have started old QBs with noodle arms to play instead.

Look, I realize this is a fourm where people come and state their opinions. But to tell me the sky is orange is insanity. So please, everyone - stop this Brunell talk.

Post of the Year so far. :applause:

[pjfootballer]

1) Brunell had a higher completion percentage because he threw MUCH shorter, safer passes... thus completing more passes (such as a swing pass to a back)

2) Brunell had more yards per attempt because that includes what the runner does after catch, not how far the ball was thrown. So if Brunell throws a slightly forward pass to Betts, and then he runs it for 50 yards, that counts as a 50 yard pass. So in fact, Brunell can barely throw past the line of scrimmage and still have higher yards per attempt than Campbell. Think of it like this... if I shoot 10 layups and make 8, then ive shot 80%. Then if you shoot 10 three pointers and make 6 of them, youve shot 60%. On the surface it would seem that I am a better shooter but its not even close to a fair comparrison.

3) and speaking of inaccurate passes. How about all the times Brunell threw the ball into the stands instead of even attempting to find a reciever. Was that innaucrate enough for you?

Brunells numbers often look good because he is unwilling to take chances. Defenses dont respect his long ball so they load the box and this creates all sorts of problems. Its very easy to never miss a shot if you dont take any.

Close 2nd for post of the year. :applause:

[rdsknbill]

Why did Campbell have more success you ask? First off, it is debatable whether or not Campbell did actually have more success. Brunell had a better winning percentage as a starter at 3-6 than did Campbell at 2-5. While the offense as a whole improved under Campbell, the passing game regressed.

Campbell had the benefit of a prolific running game, accompanied by Gibbs' return to smashmouth football after the Tampa Bay game. Some might say that our success running the football was a result of opponent's respect for Campbell's deep ball, but that was not the case. Brunell did not have the benefit of a similar running game, yet still quarterbacked a more productive passing game. In games where the Redskins ran the ball effectively (Jacksonville, Houston, and the second Dallas game), Brunell had very productive outings. Though Campbell was the beneficiary of strong running game in all but one of his starts, he had few stellar outings.

Again, I'm not suggesting that we replace Campbell because that would set the franchise back. However, Brunell is the better quarterback right now.

"Voice of reason" at 17? OK not to beat this kid up, but how old were your when the Skins won their last SB? Sorry young man. not carrying wait here

[brunell]

hi, guys



:silly:

[ceviker]

hi, guys



:silly:

GD DAMNIT BRUNELL I ****EACD P NOW UA FUC KIN RETIREE AN DD ALL IS FORGIVENM Campbll Rulz!!!

[JaimeDeCurry]

GD DAMNIT BRUNELL I ****EACD P NOW UA FUC KIN RETIREE AN DD ALL IS FORGIVENM Campbll Rulz!!!

Post of the year #3

[BAFGA]

Well if Insane Boost is Brunell then Brunell also likes hondas, I am a member at this site www.honda-tech.com and Insane Boost is a member as well.

What kind of Honda? I'm thinking more like this one:

http://www.keehnpower.com/images/h4518hsa.jpg

[InsaneBoost]

What kind of Honda? I'm thinking more like this one:

http://www.keehnpower.com/images/h4518hsa.jpg


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