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tr1
May-11th-2007, 04:50 AM
Kevin Roberts
http://www.courierpostonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070511/COLUMNISTS14/705110373/1063/SPORTS

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Friday, May 11, 2007

A wise man once said that observing professional sports for a living offers both theater and news -- and the key is figuring out which is which.

That Donovan McNabb spoke to a selected handful of media this week is theater. That he did so at a skating rink in Voorhees, sitting on the bleachers, or at a table near the video games, or on top of a zamboni, is wonderful theater. That there is now, unmistakably, some distance between McNabb and the Eagles -- some of it literal in the 15 miles between the Skate Zone and the Eagles complex and some of it metaphorical -- is significant theater.

That doesn't make it meaningless; this is the Eagles and their quarterback. McNabb holding court on the state of the team and the draft pick who might succeed him is a big, giant deal.

But much of this is just soap opera. There is no quarterback controversy; McNabb is the quarterback and he'll play and the Eagles will win or lose with him. Period. In the last 33 years, you know how many teams with a Pro Bowl-caliber starter have drafted a quarterback in the first or second rounds and seen the drafted quarterback go on to make multiple Pro Bowls?

None.

Not one, in 33 years. So let's not run McNabb and his five Pro Bowls and his 95.5 quarterback rating and his 18 touchdown passes in 10 games last year out of town just yet.

This is news: There is a rift between player and team. This is undeniable, and it is inarguable. The Eagles have twice tried to shut down McNabb press conferences in the last four months, and McNabb went off the reservation to get his message out. The Eagles were taken by surprise. And if you know nothing else about the Eagles you know they do not like surprises and they do not like things operating outside their control.

How much does this matter? Maybe not at all.

"I thought this whole thing was pretty comical," McNabb told selected reporters this week. "I mean, it seemed like with everything that was said and everybody's reaction, you'd have thought somebody sat down and talked to me or called me on the phone. I was like: Wow, I never said anything. I felt it was time now to speak and get it over with, so when minicamp begins, it won't be a distraction."

Sweet Enola Gay -- he's out of control! Somebody get ahold of this guy! He'll ruin everything!

Or not.

But this training camp is crucial for McNabb, the most important of his career. He and Eagles head coach Andy Reid absolutely have to be on the same page of this thing.

McNabb is making his way back from knee surgery. When he'll be ready to practice, when he'll be ready to see contact, when he'll be ready to play is going to be a day-by-day evaluation.

Everybody has to do the right thing for the right reasons. If McNabb rushes back too soon, that's a disaster. If McNabb and Reid and the doctors differ on his schedule, can McNabb trust that Reid has his best interests at heart? Or will this blow up?

Again: That's news. That matters.

But that's July, which will be watched closely with hundreds of eyes, squinting into the sweltering heat for any twitch or scowl. Today it's just hypothetical.

Eagles head coach Andy Reid will speak at minicamp this weekend -- reportedly, he'll talk at the Eagles complex, and he'll invite everybody -- and it's a safe bet Reid will say that all is well, move along, nothing to see here.

He said the same thing when Terrell Owens was going crazy. But McNabb is not Owens, and it really might be true this time.

In two years, McNabb's contract status becomes an issue. If he plays well, stays healthy, wins, and is willing to re-work his contract, there's every chance he'll still be here. If McNabb takes the Eagles to the Super Bowl, is there anyone who thinks the Eagles will cut him and play the untested new guy?

Really?

That's the future, which is unknowable. Look at the Eagles -- Brian Dawkins, Jeremiah Trotter, Jon Runyan . . . this is not a group that worries about three seasons down the road. The Eagles' time is now.

And now, right now, McNabb is the quarterback. The rest is all drama, just soap opera, only theater. The key for the Eagles is to hold it to that, to keep real news from breaking out.

Keeping news from breaking out is, after all, among the Eagles' greatest skills.

Tom [Giants fan]
May-11th-2007, 05:36 AM
Whatever turmoil, no matter how little that can be created with the Eagles is fine by me. I just don't think there is any here.

pointyfootball
May-11th-2007, 05:43 AM
']Whatever turmoil, no matter how little that can be created with the Eagles is fine by me. I just don't think there is any here.

When you say "here" do you mean on ES or "here" as in "this situation"? :)

Because, if at ALL possible, there will be turmoil here on ES wrt the Eagles.

Seriously, even if their is turmoil, which there isn't, AR has shown a ridiculous ability to focus a team, block out distractions, and overcome tough circumstances. So maybe we'll be a Cinderella team again! With Drizella's looks though because that "tuft" at the end of McNabb's chin is going to make it tough for him to buckle down the chin strap.

Tom [Giants fan]
May-11th-2007, 05:49 AM
I was referring to the situation with the Eagles not ES. There is always turmoil here as long as Westbrook36 and Cowboy fans visit.

SolidSnake84
May-11th-2007, 11:19 AM
McNabb is bringing alot of this on himself. If he is not worried about his job, as people suggest, then why all the post-draft antics? Donovan threw a tantrum and didn't even call back Andy Reid after finding out that the Eagles took QB Kevin Kolb.

McNabb can't stand it when somebody is on the verge of taking his spotlight.

T.O. did it. McNabb gave the word and T.O. was gone. Some of McNabb's awesome stats went along with him.

Garcia came in and played 8 games, completing more passes, and throwing for a better TD-INT ratio. McNabb whined to his mother, then whined to Reid, and now Garcia is gone.

Who is McNabb going to get thrown out next? What if Feely starts the first couple games this year because McNabb is still hurt, and the Eagles are undefeated? Guarantee you Feely will be gone in the offseason. Kelly Holcomb, god forbid, would be the same way.

The only QB that McNabb didn't have issues with were the beloved Koy Detmer, but sadly, he too is now gone. Maybe it's because his holding got so good it overshadowed McNabb...

OWUeagleMD
May-11th-2007, 11:32 AM
McNabb is bringing alot of this on himself. If he is not worried about his job, as people suggest, then why all the post-draft antics? Donovan threw a tantrum and didn't even call back Andy Reid after finding out that the Eagles took QB Kevin Kolb.

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Horrible misrepresentation of reality.

bubba9497
May-11th-2007, 11:51 AM
Horrible misrepresentation of reality.

actually it is spot on

McNabb (or through his family) creates most of this himself

come on it's not that hard to see

As TK said on PTI recently.. McNabb is a Diva

an in my own opinion, that is one of the main reasons he doesn't have the total support of the locker room, or isn't viewed as a team leader by many

now I know you will take offense to my comments, (though none was meant)

and come back with some pointless comment that it is ridiculous, or I am just a hater, jealous homer, the Redskins stink... etc...

but you know deep inside that my comments have merit, even if you refuse to acknowledge them

OWUeagleMD
May-11th-2007, 11:59 AM
actually it is spot on

McNabb (or through his family) creates most of this himself

come on it's not that hard to see

As TK said on PTI recently.. McNabb is a Diva

an in my own opinion, that is one of the main reasons he doesn't have the total support of the locker room, or isn't viewed as a team leader by many

now I know you will take offense to my comments, (though none was meant)

and come back with some pointless comment that it is ridiculous, or I am just a hater, jealous homer, the Redskins stink... etc...

but you know deep inside that my comments have merit, even if you refuse to acknowledge them

It's funny how much I was willing to agree with you through the first part of your post. I always agree with reasonable people. But, as you proved at the end of your thread, you rarely act in a reasonable manner. Ninety-five percent of the hometeam fans on this board do a great job though.

McNabb certainly does cause some of this by his passive-aggressive demeanor. He also denies the existence of problems that are self-evident, which only makes people want to focus on those problems even more.

I agreed with everything Kornheiser and Wilbon said about McNabb on PTI. Their opinions were diametrically opposed to yours, of course.

Back to the point.

McNabb didn't throw a "tantrum" over the pick. He said the pick was shocking. Brian Dawkins also said the pick was shocking. Both of them did a great job of describing the way every Eagle Fan feels. His silence became the story because people were frustrated with not hearing what he had to say. Once he broke the silence people say he began with "post-draft antics."

If someone wants to say that there is a clear divide between McNabb and the Eagles for the first time they would be right.

If someone wants to say that McNabb is overly sensitive they would be right.

There are a number of valid McNabb criticisms. An invalid criticism would include any suggestion that he threw a tantrum after the draft or that he actively avoided Andy Reid.

Walking Deadman
May-11th-2007, 12:30 PM
I don't need to even read the article, it's drama.

The last couple of years that's what's it's been and (I hate to say this) honestly, barring injuries it really hasn't affected their play on the field as much as I would like it to ;).

Barring injury, Mcnabb and co. are fine.............until they get to the playoffs :D

bubba9497
May-11th-2007, 12:50 PM
It's funny how much I was willing to agree with you through the first part of your post. I always agree with reasonable people. But, as you proved at the end of your thread, you rarely act in a reasonable manner. Ninety-five percent of the hometeam fans on this board do a great job though.

McNabb certainly does cause some of this by his passive-aggressive demeanor. He also denies the existence of problems that are self-evident, which only makes people want to focus on those problems even more.

I agreed with everything Kornheiser and Wilbon said about McNabb on PTI. Their opinions were diametrically opposed to yours, of course.

Back to the point.

McNabb didn't throw a "tantrum" over the pick. He said the pick was shocking. Brian Dawkins also said the pick was shocking. Both of them did a great job of describing the way every Eagle Fan feels. His silence became the story because people were frustrated with not hearing what he had to say. Once he broke the silence people say he began with "post-draft antics."

If someone wants to say that there is a clear divide between McNabb and the Eagles for the first time they would be right.

If someone wants to say that McNabb is overly sensitive they would be right.

There are a number of valid McNabb criticisms. An invalid criticism would include any suggestion that he threw a tantrum after the draft or that he actively avoided Andy Reid.

first NO ONE has said in my readings he has "thrown a tantrum" and you using it is a fabrication of what has been said... seriously that has never been implied much less said

McNabb creates all the heat he gets in the media, and and does it, so he can pout and then do the grand stand play on TV, and in interviews.. and he wasn't silent.. when you text message an ESPN analyst during the live broadcast that you are "befuddled" right after the eagles pick... is NOT being silent... and was the first step in creating this BS, then His father (almost assuredly by his sons direction) goes on a little Rant about 31 teams would want McNabb when the eagles get rid of him.... and if you think it was just coincidence that ESPN had reporter at the Eagles offices when he and Reid had there face to face... you are kidding yourself... as was knowledge that he wasn't returning Reids calls after the draft

all was setup so he could grandstand in front of the media to say, hey look at me.. even though I have been victimized.. I am just worried about getting ready for next season......

BTW Tony said much of the exact same things I have said, and Wilbon has always been a McNabb apologist, but even he agreed with Tony on some of his points

Number5
May-11th-2007, 12:54 PM
All will be well once McNabb leads them to yet another NFC East title and another playoff berth......

OWUeagleMD
May-11th-2007, 12:56 PM
first NO ONE has said in my readings he has "thrown a tantrum" and you using it is a fabrication of what has been said... seriously that has never been implied much less said

McNabb creates all the heat he gets in the media, and and does it, so he can pout and then do the grand stand play on TV, and in interviews.. and he wasn't silent.. when you text message an ESPN analyst during the live broadcast that you are "befuddled" right after the eagles pick... is NOT being silent... and was the first step in creating this BS, then His father (almost assuredly by his sons direction) goes on a little Rant about 31 teams would want McNabb when the eagles get rid of him.... and if you think it was just coincidence that ESPN had reporter at the Eagles offices when he and Reid had there face to face... you are kidding yourself... as was knowledge that he wasn't returning Reids calls after the draft

all was setup so he could grandstand in front of the media to say, hey look at me.. even though I have been victimized.. I am just worried about getting ready for next season......

BTW Tony said much of the exact same things I have said, and Wilbon has always been a McNabb apologist, but even he agreed with Tony on some of his points

The post I called a "horrible misrepresentation of reality" defined this situation as McNabb throwing a tantrum. That is the entire reason I said it was a "horrible misrepresentation of reality." That's when you started on about me cascading my eyes from the world and calling others haters in an effort to further delude myself.

Kornheiser and Wilbon got the situation exactly right. Like I said, I agreed with every point they made.

BigDFan5
May-11th-2007, 03:05 PM
McNabb is bringing alot of this on himself. If he is not worried about his job, as people suggest, then why all the post-draft antics? Donovan threw a tantrum and didn't even call back Andy Reid after finding out that the Eagles took QB Kevin Kolb.


Horrible misrepresentation of reality.

actually it is spot on




McNabb didn't throw a "tantrum" over the pick. He said the pick was shocking. Brian Dawkins also said the pick was shocking. Both of them did a great job of describing the way every Eagle Fan feels. His silence became the story because people were frustrated with not hearing what he had to say. Once he broke the silence people say he began with "post-draft antics."

first NO ONE has said in my readings he has "thrown a tantrum" and you using it is a fabrication of what has been said... seriously that has never been implied much less said

bubba9497
May-11th-2007, 03:18 PM
All will be well once McNabb leads them to yet another NFC East title and another playoff berth......


you mean it will never end :doh:

bubba9497
May-11th-2007, 03:20 PM
The post I called a "horrible misrepresentation of reality" defined this situation as McNabb throwing a tantrum. That is the entire reason I said it was a "horrible misrepresentation of reality." That's when you started on about me cascading my eyes from the world and calling others haters in an effort to further delude myself.

Kornheiser and Wilbon got the situation exactly right. Like I said, I agreed with every point they made.



my bad, I read it backward on the tantrum thing I apologize


BigDfan, good call..... I got it wrong

EnFoRcEr_uPu
May-11th-2007, 03:25 PM
']Whatever turmoil, no matter how little that can be created with the Eagles is fine by me. I just don't think there is any here.

Agreed. McNabb is still a top-tier QB in the NFL. If he can stay healthy - if - he's their QB for atleast the next 4 or 5 years.

BigDFan5
May-11th-2007, 03:29 PM
my bad, I read it backward on the tantrum thing I apologize


BigDfan, good call..... I got it wrong

good man bubba :)

TheREALJBird
May-11th-2007, 03:31 PM
Agreed. McNabb is still a top-tier QB in the NFL. If he can stay healthy - if - he's their QB for atleast the next 4 or 5 years.

The Eagles are putting a lot into the word "if". Guy cannot stay healthy for the life of him. If he gets injured again, his job security would be in serious jeopardy IMO....drafting Kolb turned up the heat as it is though

OWUeagleMD
May-11th-2007, 04:52 PM
my bad, I read it backward on the tantrum thing I apologize


BigDfan, good call..... I got it wrong

It happens. Thanks for recognizing the discrepency. No apologies neccesary.

Peregrine
May-11th-2007, 07:44 PM
Some serious ego problems in Philly. Which is hard to figure considering such a winless franchise without a SB trophy you wouldnt expect to have inflated egos.

Regardless, the Eagles wont have to worry, because they will tank this year.

tr1
May-12th-2007, 05:13 AM
my bad, I read it backward on the tantrum thing I apologize


BigDfan, good call..... I got it wrong

This is why bubba is the patron saint on ES.

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