Guess who is catching passes

[Terence Newman 41]

Guess who is catching passes


Terrell Owens is going through drills with the rest of the receivers, catching passes and all. So far, no drops, and his right ring finger is still attached.

I ran from practice into the media room to deliver this earth-shattering news to you.

Some media types are speculating that T.O. wanted to make this minicamp all about him, so he fooled us into thinking he wouldn't be practicing. (http://www.cowboysplus.com/topstory/stories/051107cpcowdate.330cd11.html) If that was the plan, it worked. Expect all kinds of T.O. coverage on your evening newscasts.

Much, much more about this story as it develops. We'll also give you some less exciting news, like Oliver Hoyte is still a fullback.

Back to practice I go.



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[Birdlives]

Wow. TO is doing his job. Simply shocking.

[Califan007]

Wow. TO is doing his job. Simply shocking.
Actually, it is lol... :laugh:

[honorary_hog]

Wow, Terrell, I got up and came to work this morning too. Let me know when I'm supposed to be impressed, mmkay schnookie poo? ;)

[zoony]

Year 2... can't wait :munchout:


.....

[zoony]

anyone like metaphors?

Think of this as the Cowboys organization by week 6.

http://www.soft3k.com/imgs/House-Fire-Screensaver-w300-11297.jpg

[AmishGangster]

Think of this as the Cowboys organization by week 6.

He already ran their HOF coach out of town :laugh:

[1bigfan13]

Wow. TO is doing his job. Simply shocking.

In reality it's no big deal, but it warrants being brought up since a couple of homers (Bubba and another guy) were whooping it up because they were so sure that Owens wouldn't participate in any drills. Oops.

[Ken]

It really is no big deal considering he played the entire season last year with a bumb finger.

At least our team is intact for our mini-camps...

[honorary_hog]

It really is no big deal considering he played the entire season last year with a bumb finger.


http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/img/11-06/1108drop.jpg


You could argue he played with 10 bum fingers last year. :laugh:

[smitty71]

Who cares? He is a media circus and he loves the limelight. Dallas and the league woud be better without him.

[bubba9497]

How pathetic is it when in less than 24 hours Poke fans are actually bragging that their new head coach got to pick FIVE of his own coaching staff, and their starting WR actually showeld up to workout at OTA's

on a Redskins message board


:rotflmao:

[tr1]

How's his hammy?

Tick...tick...tick...

[IrishOrange15]

How pathetic is it when in less than 24 hours Poke fans are actually bragging that their new head coach got to pick FIVE of his own coaching staff

Nobody is bragging. The claim was that Phillips didn't get to pick his assistants, which per usual is another one you can chalk up in the "wrong" column. The other assistants were kept around, except for Garrett, so Wade may have very well found no need to overhaul the entire staff. They have had 3 winning seasons in the last 4 years. It's not like we are talking about the Raiders old coaching staff here.

, and their starting WR actually showeld up to workout at OTA's

Well, it's more than can be said for Sean Taylor and Shawn Springs.


I just love how Randy Moss is supposedly a changed person now that he's in New England, yet Owens showed up to practice earlier than scheduled from his finger injury to show "it's all about him."

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.





YAKUZA

[Jeremiah_Johnson]

At least our team is intact for our mini-camps...

heh heh heh.

Springs will be in camp pretty soon. But it will be for Dallas. Hometown boy comes back at a discounted price so he can be by his dad.


As far as ST goes..............tick tock tick tock tick tock. Right back atcha.

[TonyRomoProBowl]

How's his hammy?

Tick...tick...tick...

seems ok so far, how about Moss's Groin? :silly:

[Terence Newman 41]

Nobody is bragging. The claim was that Phillips didn't get to pick his assistants, which per usual is another one you can chalk up in the "wrong" column. The other assistants were kept around, except for Garrett, so Wade may have very well found no need to overhaul the entire staff. They have had 3 winning seasons in the last 4 years. It's not like we are talking about the Raiders old coaching staff here.



Well, it's more than can be said for Sean Taylor and Shawn Springs.


I just love how Randy Moss is supposedly a changed person now that he's in New England, yet Owens showed up to practice earlier than scheduled from his finger injury to show "it's all about him."

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.





YAKUZA

Exacttly right Yakuza. If he didn't show, It's front page news on ESPN right now. The media can't spin this anyway.

"Owens shows up early .... " No.
"Owens catches every pass thrown his way" No.
"Owens smokes Terence Newman for a TD" I would kill somebody if that was :laugh:

He did his job yes. But he should get a pat on the back for it. Because when he doesnt everyone makes a big deal.

[IrishOrange15]

As far as ST goes..............tick tock tick tock tick tock. Right back atcha.

We all know what happened last time Taylor couldn't be found. Get your kevlar ready.




YAKUZA

[tr1]

We all know what happened last time Taylor couldn't be found. Get your kevlar ready.




YAKUZA

I just wish you guys had enough balls to post this crap in the Stadium...instead of hiding out here in ATN...

[tr1]

Oh, and as for TO showing up, there's one and only one reason:

While the club still owes him a $3 million roster bonus on June 1, it appears the Cowboys have every intention of paying Owens his money.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news.cfm?id=82AD4699-F52E-5127-F16860752E67A05F




Wait until the check is cashed! :laugh:

[tr1]

"I'm surprised but I can understand why he wanted to come out here," Dallas owner and general manager Jerry Jones said. "He got caught up in the enthusiasm of being with the team, the excitement we've got about our team. I'm sure he just wanted to go ahead and catch some passes."

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/2007-05-12-883725835_x.htm



Jerry is an idiot...or he thinks gullible puke fans will swall this crap.

For TO, it's all about the cash.

[Fred Jones]

Puke fans are at it early this year. I guess they feel they have a real good chance of winning some game next year.

Just some random thoughts.

1. What is TO going to do?
2. What is Romo going to do?
3. Is there top pick going to have an impact?
4. Will their defense rebound?
5. Will their Oline play at a high level?
6. Do they have a running game?
7. What is Romo going to do?

That TO showed up to practice didn't answer any of these questions. What happens if he has lost a step? What happens if Romo can't get him the ball? He shouldn't be that bad in camp because the new staff will baby him and not require him to work as hard as BP.

[Terence Newman 41]

1. What is TO going to do? Get 1,000+ yards, 10+ TDs.
2. What is Romo going to do? Should improve.
3. Is there top pick going to have an impact? Blits 24-7 all he is going to do.
4. Will their defense rebound? With Wade, we can hope he helps us play like they did in SD.
5. Will their Oline play at a high level? I see no reason why we shouldn't.
6. Do they have a running game? Indeed we do.
7. What is Romo going to do? Should improve.

Owens lost a step? He already smoked my fave. player Terence Newman [[one of the NFL's fastest players Day One.]]

[Terence Newman 41]

Oh, and as for TO showing up, there's one and only one reason:




Wait until the check is cashed! :laugh:

Wait... if your getting paid .... why would you even bother showing? He's getting paid regardless.

Thats like saying "Hey, we're going to pay you regardless." So why show up?

[Fred Jones]

1. What is TO going to do? Get 1,000+ yards, 10+ TDs.
2. What is Romo going to do? Should improve.
3. Is there top pick going to have an impact? Blits 24-7 all he is going to do.
4. Will their defense rebound? With Wade, we can hope he helps us play like they did in SD.
5. Will their Oline play at a high level? I see no reason why we shouldn't.
6. Do they have a running game? Indeed we do.
7. What is Romo going to do? Should improve.

Owens lost a step? He already smoked my fave. player Terence Newman [[one of the NFL's fastest players Day One.]]


Ok, remember this post and bring it back at the end of the season.

[Terence Newman 41]

Ok, remember this post and bring it back at the end of the season.

No problem. Nothing that can't be done.

Owens #'s ... No problem.

Romo should be solid. He should improve with the experience under his belt. His work ethic wont be the reason if he fails.

Spencer and Ware are flip flopping Strong and Weak side backer in different schemes. They want to drop Spencer into coverage? Fine by me. Mr.QB meet Sir DeMarcus Ware. Take a pick #93 or #94 are going to be in your face all game.

Defense rebounding .... Well it sure as hell cannot get any worse then the last few games last year can it? With the new scheme, Spears and Canty will improve. Hell, Spears even made SEVERAL plays in Mini Camp today. Mini Camp though! But still ... Spears + Making plays in the NFL = Doesn't happen.

Offensive Line ... Flo is back healthy. Kosier should step it up, he has Ugly Kid Pat breathing down his neck for PT. Gurode is solid. Bigg should eat space at 360+ and Colombo is solid.

Julius should improve. No more running like a robot. The Offense should utilize him, He's a good screen-runner; he's a good draw-runner; he's a good stretch, outside-runner that can cut. Barber just smashes the rock.

I look for big years out of Julius Jones AND Marcus Spears.

[IrishOrange15]

Puke fans are at it early this year. I guess they feel they have a real good chance of winning some game next year.

Just some random thoughts.

1. What is TO going to do?

Well, I know what he did last year. He went 85 catches, 1180 yards and 13 TD's compared to 55 catches, 716 yards, and 3 TD's for Lloyd and ARE *combined*. :doh:

Oh yeah, he showed up ahead of schedule from his injury to go to work today, meanwhile Shawn Springs and Sean Taylor are doing their best "Where's Waldo?" impersonation.

2. What is Romo going to do?

I know he wound up with a 95 QB rating, while Jason Campbell wound up with a 76.5 QB rating.

6. Do they have a running game?

They're not exactly the Denver Broncos in their best years, but when your top 2 RB's get 1,738 combined rushing yards at 4.3 yards per carry and 18 TD's, you officially "had a running game" last season.




YAKUZA

[Birdlives]

I look for big years out of Julius Jones AND Marcus Spears.

If I were a cowboys fan I'd hope so. Aren't they the two guys who talked the most smack about how they didnt like playing under Parcells?

[Terence Newman 41]

If I were a cowboys fan I'd hope so. Aren't they the two guys who talked the most smack about how they didnt like playing under Parcells?

Pretty much. But in their defense, It seemed they were held back by Parcells. Spears had to do exacttly what he shouldn't be doing. Spears made plays at LSU. He didnt have much chance eating all of these blockers. So he should do well.

As for Jones ... he should be utilized the way he should be with Wade.

[Birdlives]

Well, I know what he did last year. He went 85 catches, 1180 yards and 13 TD's compared to 55 catches, 716 yards, and 3 TD's for Lloyd and ARE *combined*.

Oh yeah, he showed up ahead of schedule from his injury to go to work today, meanwhile Shawn Springs and Sean Taylor are doing their best "Where's Waldo?" impersonation.

I know he wound up with a 95 QB rating, while Jason Campbell wound up with a 76.5 QB rating.

They're not exactly the Denver Broncos in their best years, but when your top 2 RB's get 1,738 combined rushing yards at 4.3 yards per carry and 18 TD's, you officially "had a running game" last season.

YAKUZA


Wow. In case you didn't know, TO should produce way better numbers than Lloyd and ARE combined. Lauding him for it stinks of desperation.

Considering how many teams TO has helped ruin you still might want to hold your breath.

I know one thing, Springs (when healthy) and Taylor show up on game days. That's really all that matters. You know cowboys fans (as well as Glenn and TO) wish they wouldn't, hence all the smack talk.

What was that Romo QB rating without the 2 for 2 158.3 rated Houston game? More importantly, what was his rating in December once teams had tape to game plan for him? I think someone on this site had it about 77. With those WR's dallas has, that's actually kind of sorry, ain't it?

Another question. Are fumbles figured into the QB rating system? Didnt Romo have 7 or so? No wonder he couldn't hold the snap in Seattle.

No, they're not the Broncos, and never will be. Very impressive numbers. Good enough to get them to 13th best in the NFL. You know your expectations are low when middle of the pack is worth puffing out your chest.

[IrishOrange15]

Wow. In case you didn't know, TO should produce way better numbers than Lloyd and ARE combined..

For as much as Dallas gave Owens compared to how much the Skins gave up for ARE and Lloyd....NO, he should not have produced more than ARE and Lloyd combined. Instead, he produced far, far more than those two combined.

Lauding him for it stinks of desperation.

No, it stinks of being factual and debunking Redskins fans once again who like to cast stones....well, more like sledgehammers into a glass house. Redskins laughing at Owens' production is like the guy who only owns 2 ten speed bikes laughing at the guy in a Mercedes because he has to pay for gas.

Considering how many teams TO has helped ruin you still might want to hold your breath.

I think hiring Dennis Erickson ruined the Niners more than anything and the Eagles were so ruined by Owens that they made the playoffs the very next year with their backup QB. Oh yeah, Dalla can release him at any time and take a minimal cap hit and have plenty of cap room left over. Yep, really sucks to be Jerry Jones right now. :doh:

I know one thing, Springs (when healthy) and Taylor show up on game days. That's really all that matters. You know cowboys fans (as well as Glenn and TO) wish they wouldn't, hence all the smack talk.

Ahhh, the facts...once again.

1. According to STATS, Inc. Sean Taylor led all safeties in TD's allowed in 2004.

2. According to STATS, Inc., Sean Taylor led the *ENTIRE LEAGUE* in TD's allowed in 2006. Furthermore, this was the most TD's allowed in one season by a player since STATS, Inc. started keeping this stat back in 1995.

3. According to STATS, Inc. Sean Taylor led the *ENTIRE LEAGUE* in missed tackles in 2006.

4. Sean Taylor has more career personal fouls than interceptions.

5. Glenn has 5 TD's in 7 games played against the Redskins as a Cowboy.

Yeah, he really "shows up" on Sunday alright.

What was that Romo QB rating without the 2 for 2 158.3 rated Houston game?

Comes out to a 93.7 QB rating. Wow, you really got us there!
:doh:

More importantly, what was his rating in December once teams had tape to game plan for him?

He had an 83.7 QB rating in his last 5 games. Again, got us there! :doh:

You know your expectations are low when middle of the pack is worth puffing out your chest

Who puffed out there chest? Somebody implied Dallas didn't have a running game last year. I showed that their top 2 runners did pretty well.




YAKUZA

[zoony]

Dallas fans with Wade Phillips as their leader and TO going into his second season.


And they have the nerve to talk **** on a Redskins board. Guess its true what you hear about their collective intelligence.

..

[Birdlives]

For as much as Dallas gave Owens compared to how much the Skins gave up for ARE and Lloyd....NO, he should not have produced more than ARE and Lloyd combined. Instead, he produced far, far more than those two combined.

No, it stinks of being factual and debunking Redskins fans once again who like to cast stones....well, more like sledgehammers into a glass house. Redskins laughing at Owens' production is like the guy who only owns 2 ten speed bikes laughing at the guy in a Mercedes because he has to pay for gas.

If you go by the press then you're more ignorant than I gave you credit for. Neither one will make as much as TO when all is said and done. Did ARE get a 10mil signing bonus? No he didnt. If he doesnt produce he doesnt see the money, same with Lloyds contract. Lloyd signed 7yr $29mil contract with $5mil in signing and a roster bonus he wont see without production. ARE signed a 7yr $31mil contract with the same up front money and the same back-ended bonus he wont see unless he produces. TO signed a 3yr $25mil contract going into year 2. He'll see all of it in the first 3 years if they keep him through 2008. A simple fact you misconstrued.

I didnt laugh at his production, I merely stated it shouldn't be lauded because that's what he is supposed to do. See above, 3 years $25 mil guaranteed, more than the top 3 Redskins WR's combined ($16.165 mil in up front money combined).

I think hiring Dennis Erickson ruined the Niners more than anything and the Eagles were so ruined by Owens that they made the playoffs the very next year with their backup QB. Oh yeah, Dalla can release him at any time and take a minimal cap hit and have plenty of cap room left over. Yep, really sucks to be Jerry Jones right now. :doh:

TO was traded by SF for a song they were so desperate to get rid of him. Philly had drama up the yinyang because of TO. Denial aint just a river in Egypt.

Ahhh, the facts...once again.

1. According to STATS, Inc. Sean Taylor led all safeties in TD's allowed in 2004.

2. According to STATS, Inc., Sean Taylor led the *ENTIRE LEAGUE* in TD's allowed in 2006. Furthermore, this was the most TD's allowed in one season by a player since STATS, Inc. started keeping this stat back in 1995.

3. According to STATS, Inc. Sean Taylor led the *ENTIRE LEAGUE* in missed tackles in 2006.

4. Sean Taylor has more career personal fouls than interceptions.

5. Glenn has 5 TD's in 7 games played against the Redskins as a Cowboy.

Yeah, he really "shows up" on Sunday alright.

You're not really going to pull that BS stats inc. speculative stat stuff up are you? He did all that? PROVE IT. Dont quote me a bunch of crap that you know can't be proven. Stats Inc has no credibility with who gave up what, only with # of tackles, TD's, sacks, i.e. the easy stuff. Those are the ONLY numbers the NFL officially uses, and for a reason. Unless you have some offical NFL stat that says he missed a tackle or gave up a TD, save it because it's already been established more than once that even the EXPERTS dont agree on such stats. Oh that's right, you ran away from that thread like a dog with it's tail between its legs as soon as that fact had been established.

Comes out to a 93.7 QB rating. Wow, you really got us there!
:doh:

He had an 83.7 QB rating in his last 5 games. Again, got us there! :doh:

His QB rating in December was 77.6, You're including his playoff game to get your numbers. I didn't say "last 5 games", I said December. He had three downright attrocious games and two good ones. The two good ones happened to be against Atlanta and Detroit, AKA the 29th and 25th best passing defenses in the NFL respectively. Keep jumping up and down for mediocre accomplishments.

His QB rating in the playoffs was a respectable 89.6. But again, the rating system doesn't include sacks or fumbles. He was sacked twice and had 2 fumbles, one very costly if I'm not mistaken. He threw 1TD and the cowboys had 1TD return.

[bubba9497]

His QB rating in the playoffs was a respectable 89.6. But again, the rating system doesn't include sacks or fumbles. He was sacked twice and had 2 fumbles, one very costly if I'm not mistaken. He threw 1TD and the cowboys had 1TD return.

well considering Tony Promo was facing a defense that had three DBs signed off the street the week before, two of which were starting

not that impressive

nor were his numbers

he went 17-29 for 189 and 1TD 89.6% QB Rating

the problem most people have with stats, is thye never want to put them in proper context or use the correct stat to prove their point, or debunk some one elses


and don't worry about IO15 changing what you said... he does it to me all the time... it's not an accident...when someone isn't confident about their point, it is much easier to change the point of the argument to suit you

by changing 5 games in December to last five games (by including the playoff game though he didn't mention it) he was able to drop off one of Romo's stinkers and add one that was moderate to skew the facts in his favor a bit

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/396886/gamelogs/2006

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/bubba9497/THOMO.jpg

[bubba9497]

1. According to STATS, Inc. Sean Taylor led all safeties in TD's allowed in 2004.

2. According to STATS, Inc., Sean Taylor led the *ENTIRE LEAGUE* in TD's allowed in 2006. Furthermore, this was the most TD's allowed in one season by a player since STATS, Inc. started keeping this stat back in 1995.

3. According to STATS, Inc. Sean Taylor led the *ENTIRE LEAGUE* in missed tackles in 2006.

Will some one please provide the link to this

I have been all through Stats Inc website, and willing to join their pay service, if need be, but I can't find anyway to do it, or find any stat they display that stats those claims... or any other sight for that matter

The only person I know that provides that much detailed info is KC Joyner, and his service for last season won't be available until July

[BigDFan5]

Did ARE get a 10mil signing bonus? No he didnt. If he doesnt produce he doesnt see the money, same with Lloyds contract. Lloyd signed 7yr $29mil contract with $5mil in signing and a roster bonus he wont see without production. ARE signed a 7yr $31mil contract with the same up front money and the same back-ended bonus he wont see unless he produces. TO signed a 3yr $25mil contract going into year 2. He'll see all of it in the first 3 years if they keep him through 2008. A simple fact you misconstrued

They already paid Lloyds roster Bonus, and ARE's roster bonus was guaranteed same as archulletas was.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/12/AR2007031201380.html
Redskins Notes: The Redskins faced a deadline yesterday to exercise $5 million options on safety Adam Archuleta, according to league sources, and Lloyd. They executed Lloyd's option

[Birdlives]

They already paid Lloyds roster Bonus, and ARE's roster bonus was guaranteed same as archulletas was.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/12/AR2007031201380.html
Redskins Notes: The Redskins faced a deadline yesterday to exercise $5 million options on safety Adam Archuleta, according to league sources, and Lloyd. They executed Lloyd's option


If you look at his current against the cap total for 2007, it's 2.428mil. The option bonus was prorated. He'll see 833K additional over his prorated 1mil signing bonus and base salary. The key word is OPTION. It isn't a roster bonus, it's an option bonus.

[tr1]

If you look at his current against the cap total for 2007, it's 2.428mil. The option bonus was prorated. He'll see 833K additional over his prorated 1mil signing bonus and base salary. The key word is OPTION. It isn't a roster bonus, it's an option bonus.

Bird, puke fans have problems with definitions. Thanks for helping them out.

[tr1]

the problem most people have with stats, is thye never want to put them in proper context or use the correct stat to prove their point, or debunk some one elses


Ding!

I, too, would like the link to STATS for membership.

[tr1]

Wait... if your getting paid .... why would you even bother showing? He's getting paid regardless.

Thats like saying "Hey, we're going to pay you regardless." So why show up?

"Pay you regardless?!?" There's a matter of a $3 million bonus. God knows what the requirements are for that. I suspect mini-camp attendance, non-disruptive behavior, etc are likely benchmarks for the bonus...expect the melt-down AFTER July, generally an historical marker for TO.

Owens, 33, is scheduled to receive a $3 million roster bonus in July to go along with a $5 million salary this season

http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7007315099

[Ken]

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/img/11-06/1108drop.jpg


You could argue he played with 10 bum fingers last year. :laugh:
I suppose he could have just taken the rest of the season off like Portis did....

I love the fact that he played through the season with a bad hand and still led WRs in TDs.

Everyone bashes him, but he comes to play. I'll take them every Sunday.

[Ken]

How's his hammy?

Tick...tick...tick...
I don't think his hammy has hurt since Mcnabb...

[Ken]

Well, I know what he did last year. He went 85 catches, 1180 yards and 13 TD's compared to 55 catches, 716 yards, and 3 TD's for Lloyd and ARE *combined*. :doh:

Oh yeah, he showed up ahead of schedule from his injury to go to work today, meanwhile Shawn Springs and Sean Taylor are doing their best "Where's Waldo?" impersonation.



I know he wound up with a 95 QB rating, while Jason Campbell wound up with a 76.5 QB rating.



They're not exactly the Denver Broncos in their best years, but when your top 2 RB's get 1,738 combined rushing yards at 4.3 yards per carry and 18 TD's, you officially "had a running game" last season.




YAKUZA
Ouch! :laugh:


People in glass houses...

[Ken]

For as much as Dallas gave Owens compared to how much the Skins gave up for ARE and Lloyd....NO, he should not have produced more than ARE and Lloyd combined. Instead, he produced far, far more than those two combined.



No, it stinks of being factual and debunking Redskins fans once again who like to cast stones....well, more like sledgehammers into a glass house. Redskins laughing at Owens' production is like the guy who only owns 2 ten speed bikes laughing at the guy in a Mercedes because he has to pay for gas.



I think hiring Dennis Erickson ruined the Niners more than anything and the Eagles were so ruined by Owens that they made the playoffs the very next year with their backup QB. Oh yeah, Dalla can release him at any time and take a minimal cap hit and have plenty of cap room left over. Yep, really sucks to be Jerry Jones right now. :doh:



Ahhh, the facts...once again.

1. According to STATS, Inc. Sean Taylor led all safeties in TD's allowed in 2004.

2. According to STATS, Inc., Sean Taylor led the *ENTIRE LEAGUE* in TD's allowed in 2006. Furthermore, this was the most TD's allowed in one season by a player since STATS, Inc. started keeping this stat back in 1995.

3. According to STATS, Inc. Sean Taylor led the *ENTIRE LEAGUE* in missed tackles in 2006.

4. Sean Taylor has more career personal fouls than interceptions.

5. Glenn has 5 TD's in 7 games played against the Redskins as a Cowboy.

Yeah, he really "shows up" on Sunday alright.



Comes out to a 93.7 QB rating. Wow, you really got us there!
:doh:



He had an 83.7 QB rating in his last 5 games. Again, got us there! :doh:



Who puffed out there chest? Somebody implied Dallas didn't have a running game last year. I showed that their top 2 runners did pretty well.




YAKUZA
Please Hammer, don't hurt 'em!

That is the most, i believe it is reffered to as, "P'owned" I ever seen one be.

Wow. Redskins fans should just close this thread as a mercy offering. :cheers:

[honorary_hog]

I suppose he could have just taken the rest of the season off like Portis did....

I love the fact that he played through the season with a bad hand and still led WRs in TDs.

Everyone bashes him, but he comes to play. I'll take them every Sunday.

Yeah, I mean afterall, it's not like CP played through a separated shoulder all year before he broke his hand. What a puss. :rolleyes:

[Ken]

Yeah, I mean afterall, it's not like CP played through a separated shoulder all year before he broke his hand. What a puss. :rolleyes:
Subluxed, not seperated.

Big difference.

I played with two subluxed shoulders in the same game and only missed a few plays.

That was High school.

[honorary_hog]

Subluxed, not seperated.

Big difference.

I played with two subluxed shoulders in the same game and only missed a few plays.

That was High school.


On that note, I'll cease my attempt at reason. :doh:

[Isifhan]

That was High school.

:laugh: Many 6'5 320 pounders hitting you every play in high school boss?

[bubba9497]

Subluxed, not seperated.

Big difference.

I played with two subluxed shoulders in the same game and only missed a few plays.

That was High school.



I am amazed in one post Ken has tried to impress upon us his vast knowledge of medicine, and his super human toughness

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[BigDFan5]

If you look at his current against the cap total for 2007, it's 2.428mil. The option bonus was prorated. He'll see 833K additional over his prorated 1mil signing bonus and base salary. The key word is OPTION. It isn't a roster bonus, it's an option bonus.


Yes and they opted to pay it and turn it into a signing bonus and spread it out. That money is now guaranteed even if he gets cut the skins are still liable to pay it

[THEHEREAFTER]

I'm very impressed by T.O. showing up ahead of schedule, practicing very hard and not speaking to the media after practice. Good start for Dallas.

[IrishOrange15]

Ding!

I, too, would like the link to STATS for membership.

Get to know somebody involved with a pro sport team or get to know a member of the sports media that can give you access (that's what I did).





YAKUZA

[skinfan2k]

Owens knows dallas is his last stop in his career

[bubba9497]

Please Hammer, don't hurt 'em!

That is the most, i believe it is reffered to as, "P'owned" I ever seen one be.

Wow. Redskins fans should just close this thread as a mercy offering. :cheers:

:laugh:

you see before you can "own " someone you have to get your facts correct



seriously how sad is it, when you are applauding a post already debunked as a misrepresentation of the truth


:rolleyes:

[HeHateMe]

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/img/11-06/1108drop.jpg


You could argue he played with 10 bum fingers last year. :laugh:

I'm sure you're quite used to "22" in that position right there.

[Star4Ever]

I just wish you guys had enough balls to post this crap in the Stadium...instead of hiding out here in ATN...


You are the most stupid poster I've ever had the displeasure of coming across. Pretty much 100% of your pathetic posts are directed to Cowboy fans or about the Cowboys and yet you continually whine about what Cowboys fans post in response. Simply put, you're a whinner and an idiot.

[bubba9497]

You are the most stupid poster I've ever had the displeasure of coming across. Pretty much 100% of your pathetic posts are directed to Cowboy fans or about the Cowboys and yet you continually whine about what Cowboys fans post in response. Simply put, you're a whinner and an idiot.


direct personal insults are not tolerated on this message board


period

and before you criticize anyone about the quality of their posts you had better reread some of the stuff you been posting, not one post had anything of merit, everyone false bravado and homeristic opinion. Not one fact, one logical ideal.. all Redskins stink, Pokes are great childish BS

You don't like the posts.. boo hoo... no one invited you.. this is a Redskin Message board, for Redskin fans... you want someone to blow smoke up your butt how about how great the pokes are (:laugh: ) go to a poke message board... but if you stay around here (which probably won't be long) you will follow the rules

[Birdlives]

Please Hammer, don't hurt 'em!

That is the most, i believe it is reffered to as, "P'owned" I ever seen one be.

Wow. Redskins fans should just close this thread as a mercy offering. :cheers:

:rolleyes: Talk about living in your own reality, this post is the perfect example of such.


If that's your definition of being P'owned you must spend alot of your time being owned on here. I have yet to see you post anything valid in over a year.

:laugh:

[Birdlives]

Yes and they opted to pay it and turn it into a signing bonus and spread it out. That money is now guaranteed even if he gets cut the skins are still liable to pay it

By your own quote it was never converted, only activated and still doesn't change the original point. i.e. TO should produce the numbers that he did because the cowboys are in for way more than Lloyd and ARE combined. 2.5 mil isnt a bad price for even an underacheiving 2nd WR.

[Birdlives]

I suppose he could have just taken the rest of the season off like Portis did....

I love the fact that he played through the season with a bad hand and still led WRs in TDs.

Everyone bashes him, but he comes to play. I'll take them every Sunday.

You're kidding right? You're looking very foolish in this instance, really.

CP had a badly damaged shoulder and plays the one position that takes the most punishment. He injured that shoulder in a preseason game trying to make a tackle. In spite of that he played until he broke his hand.

Meanwhile poor widdle iddle TO hurts ONE finger and plays the season, dropping more passes than anyone in the league and you applaud him for being tough. The same guy that rode a bike all during training camp. The same guy that, if he were put in CP's position in the preseason would have whiffed on the defender like a bowl of mashed potatoes, or more likely would not have even been in the play.


If there is a definition of HOMER and being blindly supportive of one's team, this quote would be it. Are you just acting so blindly homerish to get a response? Seriously. I've seen some real blind homer stuff on both sides and at both sites (ES and CZ), but this post is above and beyond ALL of that.

:laugh: