How will Antonio Ramiro "Tony" Romo perform this upcoming season?

[Who Del]

Go on record right now. This is the end all be all of Tony Romo topics. The poll is public so you cannot back track at the end of the year if you are wrong.

[Stophovr6]

If I pick option number three, am I basically stating that he has the goods but effs up in clutch situations?

[Who Del]

If I pick option number three, am I basically stating that he has the goods but effs up in clutch situations?

You're admitting that he's OK.

[Tulane Skins Fan]

Regress...

no way he reaches the critical 95 passer rating again.

[ouvan59]

Regress...

no way he reaches the critical 95 passer rating again.

LOL

[bubba9497]

all I know is








Romo 95 Rating :excited:

[Tom [Giants fan]]

I don't think he is going to have a 95 QB rating. It will be lower so I voted he will regress based on that.

[The Brave Little Toaster Oven]

Romo's stats for the 07/08 season:

QB Rating - 87.7
Yds- 3200
TD- 21
INT-16
Fumbles- 10000000000000000

[jrockster21]

I chose he'll perform a little above his play, meaning he will improve upon his end of the year performance, not his first 4 games. He'll have some success. I guess I should have said he'll stay the same. :(

[capt1an chaos]

I picked number 3. Not sure he will play EXACTLY as he did last year but I belive his numbers will be about the same. Romo will have ups and downs next year, just dont think all his downs will happen at once

[method man]

Hopefully, the Nick Anderson Effect will take place on him.

[ABQCOWBOY]

A lower passer rating doesn't necessarily mean he regresses. The key to the Cowboys success will be the play of there offensive line and the ability of the defensive front seven to get pressure. Couple of things I believe about this Cowboy team. I believe that with Tony Sparano as the AHC, Jason Garrett as OC and Wade Wilson as Romo's position coach, he's going to be in a better position to improve. Wilson is an excellent position coach and, as I'm sure your tired of hearing, Garrett is considered one of the real bright young offensive minds in the NFL. I do believe that the overall coaching Romo gets this year will be superior to last year. They key will be the OL. Adams is in a contract year and will be two seasons removed from Knee surgery. Kosier is not spectacular but he is solid. He does the things you need him to but he won't dominate a bonified star player. If you know that, you can work around it. Gurode had a Pro Bowl year last year. If he continues to improve, I expect to get better production then a year ago. Davis, as a Tackle, is probably not ideal but as a Guard, he can be very effective. In fact, I think he might become a very effective player if he can mesh with Gurode and Colombo. As for Colombo, last year was his first real year with a full training camp and an injury free season. I can not say that he was flawless but I would say that he definatly gave us a solid year under the circumstances. The more time he gets to build lower body strength, the better he will become. This group has to mesh and they have to play better but if they do, then that means Jones and Barber run well. It also means that less pressure is on Romo to make something happen. The offense is new so I believe that's going to take a little bit of time but the key is the OL. If they play well, then Romo, IMO, will improve even if his QB Ranking isn't 95 or whatever.

Defensively, the players are there. Phillips' 34 is different from Parcells. Phillips plays an attacking 1 Gap style of 34. Parcells played a a conservative 2 Gap 34. We will give up plays on the defensive side of the ball but the key is pressure. If we can get good production out of the running game, that's going to limit the exposure of the defense and allow for opposing offenses to have only so many shots. The pressure defense should create TOs and field position. That should translate into less pressure to make plays on Romo but first, the OL must play well. If they don't, then it's going to be a long year for us IMO.

Hope springs eternal in the off season but in reality, all this is possible with some luck. This year, it's on the players IMO. If they do what has been designed for them, they should make plays. The talent is there IMO.

[nightbird]

This guy gives new meaning to the term "overexposure."

Put me down for regression.

[bubba9497]

better than Tom Brady and Peyton Manning combined




let's see how J_J spins that one :laugh:

[pjfootballer]

I said stay about the same. If he stays the same, he'll have a decent season.

[Fred Jones]

He will be somewhere between his first set of games that earned him a 95 rating and the last set of games in which he didn't get it done. I think it will be more towards the last set of games than the first.

[AJWatson3]

I think he's gonna be hit-and-miss. Another year or two and he'll show more consistency. His elusiveness will help him in the passing game, and if they give Barber 75% of the carries I think he'll be a better QB. They've got good weapons around him, but I am not sold on their OL still.

I see him ending out the season with a QB rating of 85 or so.
250/450 passing for 3800 yards, 26 TD's and 19 INT's.

[Jeremiah_Johnson]

Now this is my type of thread.

It will be very hard to improve on his numbers from last year because they were so good. But lets be honest here, this is not your average qb. He will be even better. Yep, you heard it here first. I will be.....I mean, Romo will be better.

Romo is a playmaker, pure and simple. He is much like Brett Favre but since he's not from Misssissippi, he can read and write. But like Brett Favre, he will make his share of errors. If he can correct those, he will be unstoppable.

I look for his numbers be be around.......

4400 yards total passing
100 rating
34 tds
14 ints

[Birdlives]

I'm thinking he is what he is already. He's 4 years into his career. I don't see where he's going to improve or regress all that much. That being said I think it's up to the rest of the team. If they improve, he'll do better; if they regress, he'll do worse. Romo isn't going to change his talent level that much at this point.

[AJWatson3]

Now this is my type of thread.


I look for his numbers be be around.......

4400 yards total passing
100 rating
34 tds
14 ints

dude, if he finishes with numbers like that, and the Cowboys don't win the Super Bowl... even I would be shocked. those are sick stats.... :dallasuck

[Birdlives]

Now this is my type of thread.

It will be very hard to improve on his numbers from last year because they were so good. But lets be honest here, this is not your average qb. He will be even better. Yep, you heard it here first. I will be.....I mean, Romo will be better.

Romo is a playmaker, pure and simple. He is much like Brett Favre but since he's not from Misssissippi, he can read and write. But like Brett Favre, he will make his share of errors. If he can correct those, he will be unstoppable.

I look for his numbers be be around.......

4400 yards total passing
100 rating
34 tds
14 ints


:rolleyes:

Nothing can be said when faced with such blind homer logic.

[Symbol]

To be honest, I think he has a lot of raw talent, as does Jason Cambell, I know that this has nothing to do with JC. I chose option 2 because I think he will perform better, but everything now depends on how well his coaching goes and his dedication to becoming an elite.

[bubba9497]

Now this is my type of thread.

It will be very hard to improve on his numbers from last year because they were so good. But lets be honest here, this is not your average qb. He will be even better. Yep, you heard it here first. I will be.....I mean, Romo will be better.

Romo is a playmaker, pure and simple. He is much like Brett Favre but since he's not from Misssissippi, he can read and write. But like Brett Favre, he will make his share of errors. If he can correct those, he will be unstoppable.

I look for his numbers be be around.......

4400 yards total passing
100 rating
34 tds
14 ints



to quote Westy

want to bet? :laugh:

[Jeremiah_Johnson]

dude, if he finishes with numbers like that, and the Cowboys don't win the Super Bowl... even I would be shocked. those are sick stats.... :dallasuck

Well look, he already had a 95 rating. I predict he'll have 100. Not a big difference there.

He had 2900 yards in 10 games. Averaged out to 16, it woulda been 4600 yards. I only said 4400

He averaged 2 td passes a game in 10 games last year. That comes to 32. And I expect with a Jason Garrett there now to be more passing.


He has to cut back on turning the ball over. If he can do that, he'll have an unbelievable season.

I didn't say anything that would be considered unatainable considering his numbers last year. Maybe the INT's, but I already prefaced that he needs to work on that, but lets face it, most of those INT's came in the last few games when we were ALWAYS playing from behind cause the defense stunk. Prior to that, he was more than fine.

I know none of you want to admit it, but Romo is an incredible talent, and you'll find out shortly after the season starts.

[Jeremiah_Johnson]

to quote Westy

want to bet? :laugh:


You want me to bet that he has 4400 yards? And what if he has 4300? I lose? No thanks.

I'll tell you what, you want to bet that he has a better season than JC?

Didn't think so.:laugh:

[bubba9497]

You want me to bet that he has 4400 yards? And what if he has 4300? I lose? No thanks.

I'll tell you what, you want to bet that he has a better season than JC?

Didn't think so.:laugh:


this isn't about JC


you're the one talking big and bragging big numbers, back it up

or are you scared?

talks cheap


if you can't put up then :shutup:


or are you scared?

[Jeremiah_Johnson]

this isn't about JC


you're the one talking big and bragging big numbers, back it up

or are you scared?

talks cheap


if you can't put up then :shutup:


or are you scared?

So you want me to bet, and if he falls short and has 4200 yards, a 98 rating and 30 td's, I lose?

There's a difference between being confindent and being stupid. Obviously you can't tell the difference if you expect me to bet it.

Or are you scared that JC can't play to Romo's level? If your so sure Romo's going to fall so much short of what I projected, I would think that you wouldn't have a problem with them going head to head.

Heck, it was you who said if you had to take one or the other, you'd take JC. Whatsa matter you scared?:laugh:

Your sig even says "the next great NFC East qb". I guess you won't back that up then?

[DWinzit]

I say he #3, meaning he has a so so season and forget the 95 rating!

He's better than Hoying, but he's no Quincy!;)

[Birdlives]

4400 yards total passing
100 rating
34 tds
14 ints





So you want me to bet, and if he falls short and has 4200 yards, a 98 rating and 30 td's, I lose?

There's a difference between being confindent and being stupid. Obviously you can't tell the difference if you expect me to bet it.

Or are you scared that JC can't play to Romo's level? If your so sure Romo's going to fall so much short of what I projected, I would think that you wouldn't have a problem with them going head to head.

Heck, it was you who said if you had to take one or the other, you'd take JC. Whatsa matter you scared?:laugh:

Your sig even says "the next great NFC East qb". I guess you won't back that up then?


Ya know what JJ, I dont recall seeing Bubba make any huge predictions where JC is concerned. He didnt so much as even say he thought JC would be a probowl QB. All he said was he preferred him to Romo.

There IS a difference between confidence and stupidity and apparently you've no idea where that line is. (Here's a hint, it's about a mile behind you.)

Now you're the one who projected out Romo's numbers to staggering All-Pro levels and said he was a great talent. You've talked yourself into a corner and now you're trying to bail out by changing the subject around.

Turning the conversation won't work on this one. YOU said Romo would have a 4,400 yard 100 rated, 34 TD season, now you're backing down? Just too funny!

There's an old saying.

Put up or shut up. :cheers:

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Who Del]

Honestly if he threw for like 4200 yards and 29-30 TDs I think bubba or anyone else would be fair enough to admit that is just insane. But thats not going to happen.

[skinfan2k]

Romo 4079 yards 27 tds 16 ints

[Walking Deadman]

Good not great IMO.
Some games he'll look great have great #'s, other games he'll look like a backup QB.

Think he'll have a better season than Manning (Eli) however.

[bubba9497]

So you want me to bet, and if he falls short and has 4200 yards, a 98 rating and 30 td's, I lose?

There's a difference between being confindent and being stupid. Obviously you can't tell the difference if you expect me to bet it.

Or are you scared that JC can't play to Romo's level? If your so sure Romo's going to fall so much short of what I projected, I would think that you wouldn't have a problem with them going head to head.

Heck, it was you who said if you had to take one or the other, you'd take JC. Whatsa matter you scared?:laugh:

Your sig even says "the next great NFC East qb". I guess you won't back that up then?



pathetic


just pathetic


I knew it all along, you make the the big Claims 4400 hundred yards, 100 QBR, 34 TD, 14 INT

and yet when your challenged you go into .... but but Jason Campbell


I have said from the get go it's too early to tell for either QB, I mean if I had gone off half **** talking big, making big claims, I would stand behind them, I wouldn't go with my tail between my legs like a scared pup, trying to weasel out of it


you want to make it 4300... it's a bet

or you going to cry some more????? :laugh:

So since you are saying you'd be crazy to back your boy and your claims... I guess he ain't all that after all is he???


what happened to Romo 95 Rating :excited:

[Walking Deadman]

I look for his numbers be be around.......

4400 yards total passing
100 rating
34 tds
14 ints

Are you serious.......if he has those numbers I'll get out the annointing oil for him (and make sure they don't get on his hands ;) )

34/14 I don't see that happening and I've been saying good things about him, but not that good.

[pjfootballer]

Now this is my type of thread.

It will be very hard to improve on his numbers from last year because they were so good. But lets be honest here, this is not your average qb. He will be even better. Yep, you heard it here first. I will be.....I mean, Romo will be better.

Romo is a playmaker, pure and simple. He is much like Brett Favre but since he's not from Misssissippi, he can read and write. But like Brett Favre, he will make his share of errors. If he can correct those, he will be unstoppable.

I look for his numbers be be around.......

4400 yards total passing
100 rating
34 tds
14 ints

That's like a notch below Peyton Manning numbers. A bit much for him. I'd say 3500, 85 rating, 26 Td's 14 Ints, 11 fumbles.

[skinfan2k]

4400 yards total passing
100 rating
34 tds
14 ints

i dont think carson palmer has even got those numbers yet in his career

[Jeremiah_Johnson]

pathetic


just pathetic


I knew it all along, you make the the big Claims 4400 hundred yards, 100 QBR, 34 TD, 14 INT

and yet when your challenged you go into .... but but Jason Campbell


I have said from the get go it's too early to tell for either QB, I mean if I had gone off half **** talking big, making big claims, I would stand behind them, I wouldn't go with my tail between my legs like a scared pup, trying to weasel out of it


you want to make it 4300... it's a bet

or you going to cry some more????? :laugh:

So since you are saying you'd be crazy to back your boy and your claims... I guess he ain't all that after all is he???


what happened to Romo 95 Rating :excited:

Its pathetic because I don't want to bet? Wow. I'm not going to bet on a quarterbacks numbers. There are alot of variables to consider, O line health, Wideout health, rb health, not to mention qb health. But you want me to stick my neck out with so many variables to take into consideration?

Get real.

It would be a stupid bet on my part. And I have all the faith in the world in Romo.

I'll put my guy up against your guy. If you don't want to touch that bet, fine, I can't say I blame you.

[Birdlives]

Just to put things in perspective, in the last 5 years, per ESPN, here are all the 4,000+ yard passers and 30+TD QB's in the NFL

2002
Rich Gannon 4,689 yds
Drew Beldsoe 4,359 yds
Peyton 4,200 yds
Kerry Collins 4,073 yds

No one had 30+ TD's

2003
Peyton 4,267 yds 32 TD's
Trent Green 4,039 yds

No one else had 30+TD's

2004
Culpepper 4,717 yds 39 TD's
Trent Green 4,591 yds
Peyton 4,557 yds 49 TD's (record)
Favre 4,088 yds, 30 TD's
McNabb did not have 4,000+ yards but did have 31 TD's
No one else had either

2005
Tom Brady 4,110 yds
Trent Green 4,014 yds

Palmer had 32 TD's but less than 4,000 yards
No one else had 30+ TD's

2006
Brees 4,418 yds
Peyton 4,397 yds 31TD's
Bulger 4,301 yds
Kitna 4,208 yds
Palmer 4,035 yds

...and yes, that's right, no one else had 30+ TD's

So Peyton Manning is the only QB in the last 5 years to have 4,000+ yards and 30+ TD's in a season more than once. Only two other QB's accomplished that feat and one was a one hit season that was never repeated. The other was Favre.

[bubba9497]

Its pathetic because I don't want to bet? Wow. I'm not going to bet on a quarterbacks numbers. There are alot of variables to consider, O line health, Wideout health, rb health, not to mention qb health. But you want me to stick my neck out with so many variables to take into consideration?

Get real.

It would be a stupid bet on my part. And I have all the faith in the world in Romo.

I'll put my guy up against your guy. If you don't want to touch that bet, fine, I can't say I blame you.

YOU GET REAL



If you don't believe it, don't spout it


how simple is that?


huh?



pathetic.=. the way you backed down like a scared puppy with your tail between your legs

easy to stand up and boast until ..... :laugh:

that's okay We all know you are full of ****

[flashback]

I have to object to the poll choices. If he improves upon his numbers from last year, (260+ yards per game, 65% completions, etc.), that's not just good, that's great.

If you just look at his 10 regular season starts from last year, get a per game average and multiply by 16, you get 326 completions on 496 attempts for 4226 yards, 26 TDs and 16 INTs. Would you really describe those numbers, or better, as "good but not great?"

[bubba9497]

I have to object to the poll choices. If he improves upon his numbers from last year, (260+ yards per game, 65% completions, etc.), that's not just good, that's great.

If you just look at his 10 regular season starts from last year, get a per game average and multiply by 16, you get 326 completions on 496 attempts for 4226 yards, 26 TDs and 16 INTs. Would you really describe those numbers, or better, as "good but not great?"



10 regular season starts


key phrase

over 16 games he could do a little better and not be great, his turnover total would be alarming if at the current rate over 16 games

[flashback]

10 regular season starts


key phrase

over 16 games he could do a little better and not be great, his turnover total would be alarming if at the current rate over 16 games
Certainly. Past performance is not a guarantee of future results. Any day-traders in the house? HOLLA! :geek:

I notice you said turnovers as opposed to interceptions, so I'm assuming that you don't want to argue that 16 INTs in a year is 'alarming'. However, he did fumble 9 times, and lost 3 of those. An INT + a fumble every week is something to be concerned about. Even if you only lose 1/2 of those fumbles, all of a sudden you're talking about 24 TOs, and in all likelihood, even more drives killed. That is certainly approaching "alarming" status.

But if he does get the fumbles under control, he completes more than 65% of his passes for more than 4230 yards, with over 26 TDs, and a passer rating of more than 95, do you consider that to be "good, not great?" That's all I'm saying. :)

[Angus]

this isn't about JC


you're the one talking big and bragging big numbers, back it up

or are you scared?

talks cheap


if you can't put up then :shutup:


or are you scared?

Bubba, haven't you already said he'll be better than Payton and Brady combined?

;)

[Siven]

That's like a notch below Peyton Manning numbers. A bit much for him. I'd say 3500, 85 rating, 26 Td's 14 Ints, 11 fumbles.


I agree pretty much, but I think more ints and more fumbles.

[ArmchairRedskin]

I dunno who Bobby Hoying is, but that sounds about right.

[bubba9497]

Bubba, haven't you already said he'll be better than Payton and Brady combined?

;)

and :whoknows:


when you boast about numbers as facts... why wouldn't you back it up?

unless you don't believe it, just grand standing, you know just being a blow hard


BTW I was kidding, note the sentence about how J_J will "spin" it :thumbsup:

I don't know how well or bad Romo will perform next season, in fact he and Grossman are the two biggest Question marks from lastyeas starting QB's

[bubba9497]

Certainly. Past performance is not a guarantee of future results. Any day-traders in the house? HOLLA! :geek:

I notice you said turnovers as opposed to interceptions, so I'm assuming that you don't want to argue that 16 INTs in a year is 'alarming'. However, he did fumble 9 times, and lost 3 of those. An INT + a fumble every week is something to be concerned about. Even if you only lose 1/2 of those fumbles, all of a sudden you're talking about 24 TOs, and in all likelihood, even more drives killed. That is certainly approaching "alarming" status.

But if he does get the fumbles under control, he completes more than 65% of his passes for more than 4230 yards, with over 26 TDs, and a passer rating of more than 95, do you consider that to be "good, not great?" That's all I'm saying. :)


13 Nt in 10 starts and a half games (he only threw two passes against houston)

1 int every 1.46 TDs

3.7% Ints ranked 25th in the league

all those translate in to a high INT season over 16 games

then you add his fumbles... that is an alarming amount of turnovers

29 tds, 20 ints, 14 fumbles, 5 lost fumbles

[eagles78]

I voted for option number 3. I just don't see any thing special in the guy. Maybe he'll prove me wrong.:whoknows:

[cosmopolitianbloodloss]

I picked number 4 because of my blind homerism. :D

[AJWatson3]

Well look, he already had a 95 rating. I predict he'll have 100. Not a big difference there.

He had 2900 yards in 10 games. Averaged out to 16, it woulda been 4600 yards. I only said 4400

He averaged 2 td passes a game in 10 games last year. That comes to 32. And I expect with a Jason Garrett there now to be more passing.


He has to cut back on turning the ball over. If he can do that, he'll have an unbelievable season.

I didn't say anything that would be considered unatainable considering his numbers last year. Maybe the INT's, but I already prefaced that he needs to work on that, but lets face it, most of those INT's came in the last few games when we were ALWAYS playing from behind cause the defense stunk. Prior to that, he was more than fine.

I know none of you want to admit it, but Romo is an incredible talent, and you'll find out shortly after the season starts.

i don't think you appreciate how incredible your prediction is. i thought i was being both fair and positive in predicting 250/450 passing for 3800 yards, 26 TD's and 19 INT's.

that is a solid season and with a little defense you would probably make playoffs.

you wanna bet he finishes closer to my numbers and QB rating (85) than yours. as mentioned by previous posters, this has NOTHING to do with Jason Campbell....

so you wanna bet?

[DeMarco Murray 29]

Perform a little above his play last year, good but not great.

[DallasCowboyFan156]

I don't think he'll stay static. He'll either be slightly better (from experience) or slightly worse (from a new offensive system) than last year. Even if he is the real deal he's won't be at elite level yet.

[Jeremiah_Johnson]

i don't think you appreciate how incredible your prediction is. i thought i was being both fair and positive in predicting 250/450 passing for 3800 yards, 26 TD's and 19 INT's.

that is a solid season and with a little defense you would probably make playoffs.

you wanna bet he finishes closer to my numbers and QB rating (85) than yours. as mentioned by previous posters, this has NOTHING to do with Jason Campbell....

so you wanna bet?

No, I don't want to bet. Ask me if I think Romo will get 3000 yards, and I still wouldn't bet. Its a fools bet. Anything could happen. Injured Oline, Injured wideouts, or Romo getting injured.

The title in this thread is "how will romo perform next year" I gave my answer, which was really only taking his 10 game average and multiplying them by a 16 game season.

But because I did that all you guys come out and want to "bet". Geez, get real guys, too many variables.

I'm only really sure about 3 things. Death, Taxes, and that he'll outperform JC. As far as where his numbers end up for the season, its anyones guess. Maybe they'll be better than last year, which I think they will be, maybe he'll be worse, which is what you all are hoping.

Lets start a thread about where you think JC's numbers will be so I can challenge all of you to a bet.

(and don't really do it bubba, cause you'll start one and have JC throwing for 2000 yards and 10 TD's and you'll want me to bet):doh:

[skinfan2k]

if romo is healthy i still dont think he will match your #s JJ.. look above and see what i think if he plays all 16

[taylorcoreskin]

I voted that he regresses because .. well.. I'm hopeful :D

[bubba9497]

No, I don't want to bet. Ask me if I think Romo will get 3000 yards, and I still wouldn't bet. Its a fools bet. Anything could happen. Injured Oline, Injured wideouts, or Romo getting injured.

The title in this thread is "how will romo perform next year" I gave my answer, which was really only taking his 10 game average and multiplying them by a 16 game season.

But because I did that all you guys come out and want to "bet". Geez, get real guys, too many variables.

I'm only really sure about 3 things. Death, Taxes, and that he'll outperform JC. As far as where his numbers end up for the season, its anyones guess. Maybe they'll be better than last year, which I think they will be, maybe he'll be worse, which is what you all are hoping.


yeah, thats all you did...


except .........


when you multiply the numbers out doesn't equal the numbers you were bragging about



Now this is my type of thread.

It will be very hard to improve on his numbers from last year because they were so good. But lets be honest here, this is not your average qb He will be even better. Yep, you heard it here first. I will be.....I mean, Romo will be better.

Romo is a playmaker, pure and simple. He is much like Brett Favre but since he's not from Misssissippi, he can read and write. But like Brett Favre, he will make his share of errors. If he can correct those, he will be unstoppable.

I look for his numbers be be around.......

4400 yards total passing
100 rating
34 tds
14 ints



whoops,

first off if you were just multiplng his numbers over 16 games

1. his rating would stay the same .... Romo 95 Rating :excited:, not 100

2. his yards 2903, 262 came in relief, so for 10 starts 2641 yards or 261.4 a game over a 16 game season 4225 not 4400

3. His TD's avg, 18 in 10.5 games over 16 = 27 (leaving off the Houston game since he played less than a half, but even if you add it... 19 in 10 starts + 2 hallfs = 11 game for a 16 avg of 27.6


even with being generous and only counting half games in relief instead of a full game, still 27 is way less than 34

4. I saved the best for last. I mean how can you even attempt to pass off you boasting as just multiplying it out over 16 games when he had 13 Int. in 11 games, I'm not a math major but I think the AVERAGE would be more than 14 :rotflmao:


he had 13 Ints in 10.5 games = a total of 20 Ints over a full season

instead of 14 :laugh:

Also, the terms of "Unstoppable", & "lets be honest here, this is not your average qb", were used, no where did you say anything about injuries, or "if"... but you heard it here first HE WILL BE BETTER



again WHOOPS :laugh:




Lets start a thread about where you think JC's numbers will be so I can challenge all of you to a bet.

(and don't really do it bubba, cause you'll start one and have JC throwing for 2000 yards and 10 TD's and you'll want me to bet):doh:

please do, and if I go off with a bunch of unrealistic numbers, challenge me I beg you... and see if I back down, and make up a bunch of BS to act like it was everyone else just picking on me

:rolleyes: again you are Pathetic

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[HeHateMe]

His progression towards being a franchise QB will continue.

He will lead Dallas to the playoffs again but this time will be more successful.

I could care less if his passer rating declines. If he progresses the team further than last season, he has also progressed as a starting QB in this league.

[The Brave Little Toaster Oven]

Romo will play horrible his first couple of games and we will never hear about him ever again.

One can only dream, right? :laugh:

[gca61087]

i think teams figured romo out a little bit at the end of last year. i remember talking with my buddies about him, and telling them that after a few games teams would get a chance to get film on him and shut him down better.

if i remeber right that happened after about 5 games, but i can't be sure because i don't follow the pukes very closely.

its hard to say, but i think he will have a rather average year, especially with a mediocre/bad line and his fumbling tendencies.

[THEHEREAFTER]

That's like a notch below Peyton Manning numbers. A bit much for him. I'd say 3500, 85 rating, 26 Td's 14 Ints, 11 fumbles.


Lol! Who includes fumbling #'s when projecting stats for a QB? Nice jab though.

[THEHEREAFTER]

Right on HHM. This year Romo returns with 10 starts under his belt and more familiarity with T.O.. who scored 12td's last year. Dallas was top 5 in points and total offense and we have plenty of weapons so he really has the opportunity to succeed. He'll still have his ups and downs as he's still learning but I say finishes as a top 4 NFC QB.

Barring injury I say he posts solid #'s again: 4100 yds, 29td's, 16int's.. 94 rating

Like HHM said, he'll ultimately be judged on whether or not he leads us to the postseason and how well he performs in the playoffs.

Damn, I'm such a homer. I actually undersold my boy by 100 miles! Jeez what was I thinking... :doh:

[The Brave Little Toaster Oven]

Lol! Who includes fumbling #'s when projecting stats for a QB? Nice jab though.

You have to when you are discussing Romo :laugh:

[praise_gibbs]

Holy crap Bubba!! You need a nap! LOL



However, I do see your point. Put up or shut up, JJ.




I voted: Regress. However, not drastic. I do see him putting up 'big' numbers solely on the fact that TO will/should be a lot healthier than last year. That alone will help his cause. But, I do see a lot on INT's.


All in all: A sophomore slump, just not as drastic as you'd think..

[tr1]

I look for his numbers be be around.......

4400 yards total passing
100 rating
34 tds
14 ints

UDFA.

Three years on the bench.

Totally inconsistent his last five starts.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Dumbest post. Ever.

[AJWatson3]

No, I don't want to bet. Ask me if I think Romo will get 3000 yards, and I still wouldn't bet. Its a fools bet. Anything could happen. Injured Oline, Injured wideouts, or Romo getting injured.

The title in this thread is "how will romo perform next year" I gave my answer, which was really only taking his 10 game average and multiplying them by a 16 game season.

But because I did that all you guys come out and want to "bet". Geez, get real guys, too many variables.

I'm only really sure about 3 things. Death, Taxes, and that he'll outperform JC. As far as where his numbers end up for the season, its anyones guess. Maybe they'll be better than last year, which I think they will be, maybe he'll be worse, which is what you all are hoping.

Lets start a thread about where you think JC's numbers will be so I can challenge all of you to a bet.

(and don't really do it bubba, cause you'll start one and have JC throwing for 2000 yards and 10 TD's and you'll want me to bet):doh:

well sheesh... why are you even making a prediction if you aren't willing to stand by it? you have basically predicted him having likely the best season of any QB in 2007, but that you have absolutely no faith in him actually achieving those numbers.... is that what you are trying to say?

you might as well be pulling those numbers out of your ass. of course anything can happen.

[Ænima]

Well look, he already had a 95 rating. I predict he'll have 100. Not a big difference there.

He had 2900 yards in 10 games. Averaged out to 16, it woulda been 4600 yards. I only said 4400

He averaged 2 td passes a game in 10 games last year. That comes to 32. And I expect with a Jason Garrett there now to be more passing.

This reminds me of a few years ago when Julius Jones had 800 yards in 8 games, Cowboys fans were expecting that to average out to the next year and they claimed he would get 1600 yards. I see that your fanbase still hasn't learned that it just doesn't work that way.

[BigDFan5]

My prediction on how Romo will do, is better than Campbell

[bubba9497]

My prediction on how Romo will do, is better than Campbell



now that was a surprise response :laugh:

[BigDFan5]

now that was a surprise response :laugh:

not really. Thats an obvious responce because it will easily become true

[pjfootballer]

Lol! Who includes fumbling #'s when projecting stats for a QB? Nice jab though.

You're welcome. It was a nice subtle jab, wasn't it? :silly:

[flashback]

Well, the season is only 1/4 of the way done, so it's probably too early to draw any conclusions, but I still thought it might be fun to track his progress. Maybe some people in this thread could look back and figure out where they were wrong in their analysis, and actually learn something about football, and increase the quality of the threads on this board.

Ahhh, who am I kidding?!

Anyway, here's Tony Romo's stats from 2006, in case you need 'em:

Att -- 220
Cmp -- 337
% ---- 65.3
Yards - 2903
Avg --- 8.6
TD ---- 19
INT --- 13
Rate -- 95.1

Here are the stats through 4 games in 2007:

Att -- 121
Cmp -- 72
% ---- 59.5
Yards - 1199
Avg --- 9.9
TD ---- 11
INT --- 3
Rate -- 112.9

Projected over 16 games, that would be:

Att -- 484
Cmp -- 288
% ---- 59.5
Yards - 4796
Avg --- 9.9
TD ---- 44
INT --- 12
Rate -- 112.9

See you after week 9! :ciao:

[Dance04]

Well, the season is only 1/4 of the way done, so it's probably too early to draw any conclusions, but I still thought it might be fun to track his progress. Maybe some people in this thread could look back and figure out where they were wrong in their analysis, and actually learn something about football, and increase the quality of the threads on this board.

Ahhh, who am I kidding?!

Anyway, here's Tony Romo's stats from 2006, in case you need 'em:

Att -- 220
Cmp -- 337
% ---- 65.3
Yards - 2903
Avg --- 8.6
TD ---- 19
INT --- 13
Rate -- 95.1

Here are the stats through 4 games in 2007:

Att -- 121
Cmp -- 72
% ---- 59.5
Yards - 1199
Avg --- 9.9
TD ---- 11
INT --- 3
Rate -- 112.9

Projected over 16 games, that would be:

Att -- 484
Cmp -- 288
% ---- 59.5
Yards - 4796
Avg --- 9.9
TD ---- 44
INT --- 12
Rate -- 112.9

See you after week 9! :ciao:

If he keeps this up, and J_J ends up being right im gonna have to kill myself

[tr1]

Trust me, this isn't the first time we'll see this thread re-born.

The real funny part of these posts is that about half of the puke posters in it are banned... :laugh:

[bubba9497]

Originally Posted by flashback
Well, the season is only 1/4 of the way done, so it's probably too early to draw any conclusions, but I still thought it might be fun to track his progress. Maybe some people in this thread could look back and figure out where they were wrong in their analysis, and actually learn something about football, and increase the quality of the threads on this board.




trust me, this quote will reappear, :laugh:

[Who Del]

I guess Im the jinx. ****. I hate the cowboys. Im sick of Romos face. he looks like a little boy.

[TennCowboy]

Trust me, this isn't the first time we'll see this thread re-born.

The real funny part of these posts is that about half of the puke posters in it are banned... :laugh:I thought that the funny part was that Romo was off to one of the greatest starts in NFL history....a far cry from the doom many skin fans predicted for him.

[Riggo#44]

I thought that the funny part was that Romo was off to one of the greatest starts in NFL history....a far cry from the doom many skin fans predicted for him.

Yeah, it's easy to do when you're playing some of the worst defenses in the league!

[TennCowboy]

Yeah, it's easy to do when you're playing some of the worst defenses in the league!If it's so easy to do, how come no one else has been able to do it, save for a handful of teams, ever?

Answer: it isn't. Teams don't consistently score like Dallas has just because of the competition. Other teams have had lousy schedules, but the Rams are the only team to score more points than Dallas through 4 games. The. Only. Team. Ever.

The Cowboys are averaging 38 points per game. The Redskins have only scored 38 or more points once during Gibbs II. That's got to be pretty sobering for you, when you realize the number of "worst defenses" the skins have played in 3+ seasons.

Further, the Redskins have played 2 of those "worst defenses" in the league thus far, and in those 2 games combined, failed to score as much as Dallas did in either of its games against them.

If it were really so "easy to do", then how bad is your offense really? Answer: your offense isn't that bad. It's just that the Dallas offense is just so good.

[Riggo#44]

lIt's just that the Dallas offense is just so good.

Yep, hence why you're here. When they struggle you'll crawl back into your hole.

[flashback]

Yeah, it's easy to do when you're playing some of the worst defenses in the league!

So, is that what happened, Riggo#44? You didn't underestimate Tony Romo when you picked "Regress in his progress and make his mark as the next Bobby Hoying." You just overestimated the first 4 defenses on the schedule, right?

Well, live and learn. :)

[Riggo#44]

So, is that what happened, Riggo#44? You didn't underestimate Tony Romo when you picked "Regress in his progress and make his mark as the next Bobby Hoying." You just overestimated the first 4 defenses on the schedule, right?

Well, live and learn. :)

I am more then willing to give credit where credit is due to Cowboy fans here that have been here -- like yourself, GFPB, TN41, and to a much lesser extent THA and BigDFan. That show up in good times and bad.

However, I staunchly refuse to give any creedence, leeway or an ounce of respect to fairweather trolls like TennCowboy or StonetheCrow. And as soon as the Cowboys struggle they will disappear again, until the next time the Boys get hot.

[slogriff]

Yeah, it's easy to do when you're playing some of the worst defenses in the league!

Here is an example where only having 4 games can really throw off the stats.

Dallas
Opponent & Def YPG Rank
CHI-------------15
NYG ------------16
MIA ------------21
STL ------------24

New England
Opponent & Def YPG Rank
SD ------------25
NYJ------------28
CIN------------30
BUF------------32

Now, let's take out the yardage in the games these teams played vs. DAL & NE and see where their defensive YPG in the other 3 games would rank.

Dallas
Opponent & Def YPG Rank
CHI-------------15 (3)
NYG ------------16 (4)
MIA ------------21 (20)
STL ------------24 (7)

New England
Opponent & Def YPG Rank
SD ------------25 (19)
NYJ------------28 (21)
CIN------------30 (11)
BUF------------32 (31)


Using YPG would show Dallas/Romo has played 3 out of 4 games vs teams that would be ranked in the Top 7 in the NFL if you took out the inflated Cowboy yardage. Most people use YPG to rank defenses but I'm sure people can find other stats to show these teams looking much worse. Feel free to argue over whether CHI,NYG & STL are Top 7 defenses in the league but they probably aren't as bad as many would want to believe.

I used NE as a control or reference to put the numbers in some type of perspective. Especially since people seem to want to compare Romo/Brady & DAL/NE. It would appear the defenses Brady/NE have played have statistically (YPG) been much worse than Romo/Dallas.


Yep, hence why you're here. When they struggle you'll crawl back into your hole.

Ouch, weak come back.:doh:

[Riggo#44]

Dallas
Opponent & Def YPG Rank
CHI-------------15 (3) Chicago Opponents: San Diego #26 ranked offense, Kansas City, #27, prior to facing Dallas.
NYG ------------16 (4) Giants defense is a night and day difference since the 2nd half of the Skins game. Anyone who watched the Philly game would agree. Can't really explain it.
MIA ------------21 (20) Miami is a shell of the defense they were last year. They're a mess.
STL ------------24 (7) St. L. Opponents -- Carolina 20th ranked offense, Tampa Bay - 18th Ranked Offense, and San Fran, 32nd ranked offense.

So, again, while Dallas' offense has played very, very well, a little deeper look into your number shows every defense you've played to be highly overrated.

Dallas has been playing well and probably has the best offense in the NFC right now. We're going to get a more accurate indication of where they're at when they play GB, NE, @NYG, @PHILLY and WASH.


Ouch, weak come back.:doh:

I wasn't talking to you. Take a look at my sig, and you'll see why I refuse to attempt to talk football to that troll. My goal is to remind him every time he posts that he is a fair-weather know-nothing troll that shows up only when the Cowboys are winning. He gives actual fans a bad name.

[tr1]

I used NE as a control or reference to put the numbers in some type of perspective. Especially since people seem to want to compare Romo/Brady & DAL/NE. It would appear the defenses Brady/NE have played have statistically (YPG) been much worse than Romo/Dallas.


So what?

Both teams have played crap opposition.

What's your point?

All I know is that NE tends to go to SBs...the pukes don't.

:laugh:

[slogriff]

So what?

Both teams have played crap opposition.

What's your point?

All I know is that NE tends to go to SBs...the pukes don't.

:laugh:

My point is the defenses Romo has played may not be as bad as many (ie You) believe/say they are. Unlike most, I used stats to support this theory. I used NE numbers to show others have played even worse defenses. I haven't seen too many people saying Brady's fabulous numbers are due to playing defenses that could be statistically presented as even more horrid than Romo's opponents. (I'll save you the time --- I know he has 3 Super Bowls and multi-pro bowl honors to support his track record of superior play). This isn't an effort to degrade the Pats or Brady. They both are #1 at this time and I fully expect them to beat the Cowboys. Just trying to put some relevant numbers instead of pure opinion to evaluate Romo's performance. Feel free to join me in this effort.

[doncherry]

Let's just wait until they play in 12 days or whatever it is. That will answer a lot of questions. I don't think that Dallas can stop NE, Moss feasts on the Cowboys, always has. The only thing that can stop Moss is himself, and that won't be an issue this year. I hate to say it, but I think that it could get ugly for the Cowboys. i hope I'm wrong, but I don't like Dallas' chances....

[NewBlood81]

Let's just wait until they play in 12 days or whatever it is. That will answer a lot of questions. I don't think that Dallas can stop NE, Moss feasts on the Cowboys, always has. The only thing that can stop Moss is himself, and that won't be an issue this year. I hate to say it, but I think that it could get ugly for the Cowboys. i hope I'm wrong, but I don't like Dallas' chances....

LOL. I'm pretty sure no team in the NFL like their chances agasint NE.

[Riggo#44]

Moss feasts on the Cowboys, always has.

It runs in the family :D

[doncherry]

It runs in the family :D

that was a very unenjoyable evening for me....

[He Hate Me]

that was a very unenjoyable evening for me....

I still have nightmares about that game (at night :laugh: )... but the blocked field goal turned to a winning field goal for the skins fiasco was much worse :( :doh:

[TonyRomoProBowl]

that was a very unenjoyable evening for me....


me too! i made the trip to Dallas and took my 75 year old uncle and we had the time of our life, and that was a bad ending to a great day, but dang its been two years now.......its what you would call "history". Heres :cheers: to a 2007 season sweep by the Cowboys!!!!:fingersx:

[RobMexico]

I still have nightmares about that game (at night :laugh: )... but the blocked field goal turned to a winning field goal for the skins fiasco was much worse :( :doh:

Yeah that one was worse.

We had that game won, but TO drop and bad call and some nobody kicker is winning the game. That one sucked.

The other game I was more annoyed at the "try not to lose" game plan of run, run, pass to the flats, punt.

[THEHEREAFTER]

Now this is my type of thread.

It will be very hard to improve on his numbers from last year because they were so good. But lets be honest here, this is not your average qb. He will be even better. Yep, you heard it here first. I will be.....I mean, Romo will be better.

Romo is a playmaker, pure and simple. He is much like Brett Favre but since he's not from Misssissippi, he can read and write. But like Brett Favre, he will make his share of errors. If he can correct those, he will be unstoppable.

I look for his numbers be be around.......

4400 yards total passing
100 rating
34 tds
14 ints



ank Player Team Pos Comp Att Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Int 1st 1st% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck Rate
1 Tom Brady NE QB 366 536 68.3 35.7 4,450 8.3 296.7 48 8 222 41.4 69T 53 14 20 117.2
2 Ben Roethlisberger PIT QB 264 404 65.3 26.9 3,154 7.8 210.3 32 11 168 41.6 83 39 6 47 104.1
3 David Garrard JAC QB 208 325 64.0 27.1 2,509 7.7 209.1 18 3 126 38.8 59T 34 5 21 102.2
4 Tony Romo DAL QB 328 504 65.1 33.6 4,125 8.2 275.0 36 18 212 42.1 59T 54 11 23 99.3
5 Peyton Manning IND QB 323 499 64.7 33.3 3,945 7.9 263.0 31 14 200 40.1 73T 53 9 21 98.0


WOW.. :yikes: Props to my boy JJ for being dead on with his preseason prediction. My ohh my.. looks like he was dead on!

[THEHEREAFTER]

:rolleyes:

Nothing can be said when faced with such blind homer logic.


Does anyone know where Birdlives is?

[THEHEREAFTER]

Honestly if he threw for like 4200 yards and 29-30 TDs I think bubba or anyone else would be fair enough to admit that is just insane. But thats not going to happen.

:laugh:

[BigDFan5]

Good call JJ!