Just a reminder to non cowboys fans

[Jeremiah_Johnson]

There are alot of threads in the ATN that are somewhat negative to the greatness of the Dallas Cowboys. I think this is a good time to remind many of you just how great the Cowboys are.


20 straight winning seasons (most all time)

54 post season wins (most all time)

28 post season appearances (most all time)

14 appearances in the NFC championship game (most all time)

8 superbowl appearances (most all time)

11 hall of famers (after Micheal Irvin next month)

Americas Team (you know God loves em)

Soon to have the greatest stadium the world has ever known

Tom Landry (has a finer man ever walked the earth)

Emmitt Smith (All time leading rusher)

I gotta tell you fellas, I'm getting chills just thinking about it all. The Cowboys are winners. They are great. Everyone else is merely trying to accomplish what the Cowboys have already accomplished.

Reminds me of the Yankees/Red Sox debate. Redsox fans mantra is "Yankees Suck"..........I never understood this. No the Yankees don't suck, you may hate them, you may despise them, but they don't suck. They've been too damn good for too long to say they "suck".

Same thing with the cowboys. You simply must respect them. They've been too good for too long to not respect their greatness. You should be in awe of them. Other teams hate them with a passion and always bring thier "A" game when they play them, yet the Cowboys still come out as winners more often than not. Incredible.

BOW BEFORE THE GREATNESS OF THE COWBOYS.........

I just wanted to refresh everyones memories about the greatness of the boys. Sometimes in the ATN we forget to acknowledge just how great they've been over the years. Lets face it, we may all hate the Eagles and the Giants too, but nobody hates them as much as "The Greatness", and the reason why is plain as the nose on your face. Its because they are winners, and everyone else are losers.

Now back to your regularly scheduled cowboys bashing threads........take it away tr1 and bubba.........

[WSHRedskins3ATLBraves3]

There are alot of threads in the ATN that are somewhat negative to the greatness of the Dallas Cowboys.

That's where I stopped reading. :dallasuck

[bubba9497]

the pathetic need reassurance thread


yeah you have chills, cold sweat chills of fear


question genius.... in all that Cowboy false bravado,...how much of it was coached by Wade?


how much "greatness" in the past decade?

keep the past alive, because your future is looking bleak :laugh:


cue: Glory Days

[Birdlives]

There are alot of threads in the ATN that are somewhat negative to the greatness of the Dallas Cowboys. I think this is a good time to remind many of you just how great the Cowboys are.


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LOL! JJ's like Dirty Harry, at it again....

The Packers, Bears, Steelers, 49ers, Redskins, and Giants are just as good if not better than your johnny come lately team, you just refuse to see the facts. The cowboys are a top franchise, no doubt about it, but they're certainly not the greatest franchise. Unless you bend the interpretation of fact to suit your needs, that is.

I swear, cowboys fans think the NFL started in 1960. The sheer arrogance is amazing. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Tarhog]

Just another romosexual rant ....


http://www.reelwavs.com/movies/dumb_and_dumber/dumb23.wav

[THEHEREAFTER]

BOW BEFORE THE GREATNESS OF THE COWBOYS.........

I just wanted to refresh everyones memories about the greatness of the boys. Sometimes in the ATN we forget to acknowledge just how great they've been over the years. Lets face it, we may all hate the Eagles and the Giants too, but nobody hates them as much as "The Greatness", and the reason why is plain as the nose on your face. Its because they are winners, and everyone else are losers.

Now back to your regularly scheduled cowboys bashing threads........take it away tr1 and bubba.........


:laugh: :laugh: Let'em know dogg! Talk about stirring the pot... :laugh:
One of the most entertaining thread I've ever read on this site.... :D

BTW, nice sig but you have to have made that line up. No way Bubba ever said that. Can't be!? Can it? :(

[Birdlives]

Just another romosexual.....


Seriously, can we get a Homer Simpson avatar for JJ? He really needs something to go with his comic gold moniker.

[bubba9497]

Seriously, can we get a Homer Simpson avatar for JJ? He really needs something to go with his comic gold moniker.



here's one that fit's him

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/bubba9497/redneck.gif

[Jeremiah_Johnson]

question genius.... in all that Cowboy false bravado,...how much of it was coached by Wade?


how much "greatness" in the past decade?

keep the past alive, because your future is looking bleak :laugh:


cue: Glory Days
Had you been old enough bubba, you would have said something like this.........."Who's this Tom Landry character the Cowboys have hired? He's gonna suck"..............

You probably said........."Jimmy Johnson is a college coach, his game won't translate to the NFL".................


So now you want me to worry about Wade??

If one thing is as certain as death and taxes, its the Cowboys will keep winning and winning and winning. Just like the Energizer bunny.

Every franchise should BOW AT THE FEET OF THE GREATNESS OF THE BOYS.............

[Walking Deadman]

Just a reminder to COWBOY fans:

This is ExtremeSkins....."The Official Message Board of the Washington Redskins"

To most of us your "greatness" is the equivalent to somebody going to the toliet after going on a burrito binge at Taco Bell. So, why you expect any "respect for the Dallas Cowboy greatness" :laugh: is beyond me.

And there really hasn't been much greatness in Dallas since the triplets played for you guys.

PS. The yankees argument right now is pretty lame, b/c right now even with the talent they do suck and don't even have a .500 record despite the 200 million payroll :) .
PSS. America's Team (if anybody really qualifies) would probably be The Patriots for the name and for the fact that they are the most current dynasty in the NFL :)

[Tarhog]

Okay.

Maybe its the 2nd most annoying sound in the world :)

[honorary_hog]

Quick! Who has the most playoff victories? Wade Phillips in his head coaching career or the Dallas Cowboys in the last DECADE?




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Give up?!



It's a 0-0 tie!!!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[THEHEREAFTER]

Just a reminder to COWBOY fans:

This is ExtremeSkins....."The Official Message Board of the Washington Redskins"



I was just waiting for this one. I thought it was going to be Bubba or Tr1 but WD was first.

[THEHEREAFTER]

Quick! Who has the most playoff victories? Wade Phillips in his head coaching career or the Dallas Cowboys in the last DECADE?




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Give up?!



It's a 0-0 tie!!!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Nice! :laugh: 3 of the last 4 and no playoff wins in 10 years. Hold on while it lasts.

[honorary_hog]

Nice! :laugh: 3 of the last 4 and no playoff wins in 10 years. Hold on while it lasts.

It's funny. When you guys won 14 out of 16, it was all about the here and now. We take three out of four, and now it's about your "storied past."

You guys remind me of the little kid on the playground who keeps repeating, "Oh yeah? OH YEAH?!?! WELL....." and then he can't think of anything else to say. :laugh:

[NewCliche21]

JJ needs a Stuart Smalley avatar:

"I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me."

[BillyKilmer]

Raiders do alot of this living in the past as well

[Tarhog]

I truly look forward to laying an ass-whipping of epic proportions on them this year.

Twice.

http://www.reelwavs.com/movies/dumb_and_dumber/dumb23.wav

[THEHEREAFTER]

It's funny. When you guys won 14 out of 16, it was all about the here and now. We take three out of four, and now it's about your "storied past."

:laugh: Think about what you're saying. I think our streak (BTW we're killing you all time head to head) was at like 10 straight at one point then 14-16.... And now you want to throw 3 of 4 at us like it compares. That's what's funny along with the fact that when stuck your rebuttals are funneled into only two arguments; 3 of 4 and playoff drought. God forbid we sweep this year and win a playoff game. They might have take down ATN.

You guys remind me of the little kid on the playground who keeps repeating, "Oh yeah? OH YEAH?!?! WELL....." and then he can't think of anything else to say. :laugh:

Actually it's too easy. There's always something to find.

[THEHEREAFTER]

I truly look forward to laying an ass-whipping of epic proportions on them this year.

Twice.




Now that's what the rivalry is about Tarhog! Makes you wanna tackle somethin' right now huh? :)

[Birdlives]

1. Change the title of this thread to "vote on JJ's new avatar!"

2. Change his avatar. He truly deserves it.

[THEHEREAFTER]

1. Change the title of this thread to "vote on JJ's new avatar!"

2. Change his avatar. He truly deserves it.

JJ it's not that bad. I got rid of Santana Moss and got some cool blue going on. :laugh:

Birdlives how bout we let the good Mods of ES do their jobs and play your position. Nobody likes an instigator. :D

[ouvan59]

I gotta tell you fellas, I'm getting chills just thinking about it all. The Cowboys are winners. They are great. Everyone else is merely trying to accomplish what the Cowboys have already accomplished.

2006 9-8
2005 9-7
2004 6-10
2003 10-7
2002 5-11
2001 5-11
2000 5-11
1999 8-8
1998 10-7
1997 6-10
Total for the last decade: 73-90

Sorry Chief, only the Cardinals and Lions are envious of that. Oh, sorry I just remembered, the Cardinals have a playoff victory in the last decade so it's just down to the Lions.

Or was this thread really designed for those younger Cowpoke fans that aren't old enough to remember when you were good?

[Califan007]

The Cowboys have pretty much sucked for the last 11 years...the Skins for the last 15 years. I don't think fans of either team have anything in their team's recent histories to be thumping their chests about.

'Boys fans have it a bit harder, though. They've had no taste of success lately. None. Their only area of success was the lengthy string of victories over the Skins year after year...but even that has ended, with two great heart-crushing last minute defeats to go along with an all-out ass kicking of a loss. There's no way any Cowboys fan can tell themselves that they don't hate the three recent losses to the Skins and how they came about lol...Add to it the knowledge that the Skins knocked them out of a playoff birth one year as well, and personally I'd bet gettin' pissed if I were in their shoes. Even if I didn't show it on a Skins' message board lol ;)

Yes, the Skins have had virtually no success lately, either, I know. But at least we Skins fans have had the experience of seeing the team win playoff games and progress further into the playoffs. And at least we have a somewhat recent experience of winning the division. As well as the euphoria of killing the dreaded "Cowboys Curse" and of course watching the replays of Moss' two bomb TDs, complete with seeing Jerrah slamming his open hand into his knee in frustrated response...and who can forget that female Boys fan in the stadium grabbing her head on national TV and looking down on the field in disgust after Moss hauled in yet another long TD over Williams' head...lol :cool:

I actually think that's at the core of a lot of the smack talk between Skins and Boys fans: which team is FINALLY gonna start having REAL success first?

[Jeremiah_Johnson]

Ouvan, that would like me showing you the record of the yankees over the last 80 years and not showing the years that they won it all.

Poor statistics on your part. I'll forgive you, cause I'm big like that, but we all know that the cowboys are the epitome of greatness and no other franchise can stack up to them no matter how they try.

The funny thing is that if the skins didn't have that great 10 year run, you would have what would most likely be one of the most pathetic franchises in football, even worse than the Eagles have.

No wonder you all worship gibbs the way you do.

The cowboys have superbowl wins under 3 coaches. Like I said, no matter what we do, we just win, win, and win some more, we don't have to dig up our old coaches to bring us way back to a level of mediocrity.

[Califan007]

2006 9-8
2005 9-7
2004 6-10
2003 10-7
2002 5-11
2001 5-11
2000 5-11
1999 8-8
1998 10-7
1997 6-10
Total for the last decade: 73-90

Sorry Chief, only the Cardinals and Lions are envious of that. Oh, sorry I just remembered, the Cardinals have a playoff victory in the last decade so it's just down to the Lions.

Or was this thread really designed for those younger Cowpoke fans that aren't old enough to remember when you were good?
If you just do it under Snyder's tenure:

Cowboys:
Last 8 years: 57-73
Zero division titles
Zero playoff wins

Redskins:
Last 8 years: 61-71
1 division title
2 playoff wins

[ArmchairRedskin]

Ouvan, that would like me showing you the record of the yankees over the last 80 years and not showing the years that they won it all.

Poor statistics on your part. I'll forgive you, cause I'm big like that, but we all know that the cowboys are the epitome of greatness and no other franchise can stack up to them no matter how they try.

The funny thing is that if the skins didn't have that great 10 year run, you would have what would most likely be one of the most pathetic franchises in football, even worse than the Eagles have.

No wonder you all worship gibbs the way you do.

The cowboys have superbowl wins under 3 coaches. Like I said, no matter what we do, we just win, win, and win some more, we don't have to dig up our old coaches to bring us way back to a level of mediocrity.




Yeah, you brought in a coach that won 2 SB's and turned a couple of franchises around to bring you back to mediocrity.

[Califan007]

we don't have to dig up our old coaches to bring us way back to a level of mediocrity.
True, you're able to achieve mediocrity no matter who your coach is.

[RIDETHEWALRUS]

Jeremiah_Johnson you forgot a few other important numbers

213...
The number of pounds of pot found in Nate Newton's truck a record for an NFL player


350...
The number of ounces of cocaine Micharl Irving snorted in his Dallas tenure, again an NFL record

1,208,318...
the number of mentally handicapped people living in Dallas TX, not surprisingly that number is equal to the 2003 census estimate for Dallas' population.

[THEHEREAFTER]

True, you're able to achieve mediocrity no matter who your coach is.


This is not true. We were not mediocre under Landry and Jimmy Johnson.

[Gilgamesh]

Definitely think this merits a new avatar.

http://www.gaenterprises.net/portfolio/images/bowfinger1.jpg

"The Cowboys are sooo Awwwwwsome!"

[ArmchairRedskin]

Dallas is the only team to have failed to win a playoff game while being coached by Bill Parcells.

Kind of sad. Hopefully it doesn't hurt his HOF chances.

[THEHEREAFTER]

The Cowboys have pretty much sucked for the last 11 years...the Skins for the last 15 years. I don't think fans of either team have anything in their team's recent histories to be thumping their chests about.

Very smart statement.

There's no way any Cowboys fan can tell themselves that they don't hate the three recent losses to the Skins and how they came about lol...Add to it the knowledge that the Skins knocked them out of a playoff birth one year as well, and personally I'd bet gettin' pissed if I were in their shoes. Even if I didn't show it on a Skins' message board lol ;)

Califan, I hate ANY loss to the skins. Any! If we scrimmaged you I would want to win. If were allowed to play pre-season, I'd want to win. It goes without saying that ANY loss to your hated rival hurts and sucks. Wouldn't you agree?

Yes, the Skins have had virtually no success lately, either, I know. But at least we Skins fans have had the experience of seeing the team win playoff games and progress further into the playoffs. And at least we have a somewhat recent experience of winning the division. As well as the euphoria of killing the dreaded "Cowboys Curse" and of course watching the replays of Moss' two bomb TDs, complete with seeing Jerrah slamming his open hand into his knee in frustrated response...and who can forget that female Boys fan in the stadium grabbing her head on national TV and looking down on the field in disgust after Moss hauled in yet another long TD over Williams' head...lol :cool:

Dude, how's this for your college years. 3 of 4 years.. SB CHAMPIONS... nothing like it! You've had your moments but please don't try and make it seem as if we're in envy of you or something. :laugh: The '04 pass to Crayton is still fresh in my mind as well as last years beat down at Texas Stadium where you didn't manage to score an offensive TD.

I actually think that's at the core of a lot of the smack talk between Skins and Boys fans: which team is FINALLY gonna start having REAL success first?

Well said. Fortunately for us, I don't think it was going to happen with BP. I do think he put us in a position to better ourselves. We'll see.

[THEHEREAFTER]

Dallas is the only team to have failed to win a playoff game while being coached by Bill Parcells.

Kind of sad. Hopefully it doesn't hurt his HOF chances.


So was this his worst group of players EVER or was he a great coach that was burnt out and past his prime? Depends on who you ask.

[TK]

Just another romosexual rant ....

Yeah.

But it's still worth a special award. :)






http://www.eckernet.com/images/Red_Forman_Award.jpg

[Califan007]

Califan, I hate ANY loss to the skins. Any! If we scrimmaged you I would want to win. If were allowed to play pre-season, I'd want to win. It goes without saying that ANY loss to your hated rival hurts and sucks. Wouldn't you agree?
Yes, but some hurt and suck and irritate and anger more than others lol...We Skins fans are extremely happy to know that we've dished out three particularly irritating and frustrating losses to the Cowboys in the last four games :laugh: :cool:



Dude, how's this for your college years. 3 of 4 years.. SB CHAMPIONS... nothing like it! You've had your moments but please don't try and make it seem as if we're in envy of you or something. :laugh: The '04 pass to Crayton is still fresh in my mind as well as last years beat down at Texas Stadium where you didn't manage to score an offensive TD.
When you have to reach back 12 years to talk smack it loses some of its effect lol...besides, the point and context of MY post was the absence of RECENT success for both teams, which you promptly said was a "very smart statement" lol ;)

As for the Crayton TD and the early loss to you guys last season, the three out of four we DID win more than make up for those lol...I think even you would rather have our three wins than the two you mentioned. :cool:

[THEHEREAFTER]

Yes, but some hurt and suck and irritate and anger more than others lol...We Skins fans are extremely happy to know that we've dished out three particularly irritating and frustrating losses to the Cowboys in the last four games :laugh: :cool:

Last years loss stung like hell losing like that. I have to admit it. It didn't really hurt us momentum wise as we continued to win and it was only Romo's second start but Got Damn that one hurt if for no other reason than it gave skins fans, especially the ones on ES, something to crow about.




When you have to reach back 12 years to talk smack it loses some of its effect lol...besides, the point and context of MY post was the absence of RECENT success for both teams, which you promptly said was a "very smart statement" lol ;)

I only threw that out to put everything in it's proper perspective. We've experienced the mountain top that few other teams have.


As for the Crayton TD and the early loss to you guys last season, the three out of four we DID win more than make up for those lol...I think even you would rather have our three wins than the two you mentioned. :cool:

I question our level of preparation @ Fed-Ex in '05. I know how some of you will take this but that game was more than score. We just weren't ready to play in a very important game. I know there's a BP love fest amongst skins fans now that he's no longer a Cowboy but we just flat out sucked down the stretch each of the last four years. We couldn't even beat the, at the time, lowly Rams to finish the '05 season.

[DWinzit]

So was this his worst group of players EVER or was he a great coach that was burnt out and past his prime?Or was this the first time the future HOF coach was ever undermined by the owner?

[ArmchairRedskin]

So was this his worst group of players EVER or was he a great coach that was burnt out and past his prime? Depends on who you ask.




Parcells knew when to bail. He knows that team is headed for the crapper.

[DWinzit]

To think at first I thought this was going to be a completely useless thread!Seriously, can we get a Homer Simpson avatar for JJ? He really needs something to go with his comic gold moniker.
here's one that fit's him
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/bubba9497/redneck.gif
Definitely think this merits a new avatar.

http://www.gaenterprises.net/portfolio/images/bowfinger1.jpg

"The Cowboys are sooo Awwwwwsome!"

Yeah.
http://www.eckernet.com/images/Red_Forman_Award.jpgI really like E Murphy, Homer and Red, but my vote is for bubba's idea!

[tr1]

JJ...terrific thread.

How long did it take you to think this one up?

You are a total genius.

My guess, though, is that your days on ES are limited.

Oh, and I guess all of those threads about the pukes' vulnerabilities in this upcoming year have made you nostalgic.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Wade! Ha!
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Jeremiah_Johnson]

Parcells knew when to bail. He knows that team is headed for the crapper.

You mean like when he left New England? Yeah, they went to the crapper alright.

[tr1]

You mean like when he left New England? Yeah, they went to the crapper alright.

JJ, will you visit us when the pukes go into the crapper?

[Jeremiah_Johnson]

If you just do it under Snyder's tenure:

Cowboys:
Last 8 years: 57-73
Zero division titles
Zero playoff wins

Redskins:
Last 8 years: 61-71
1 division title
2 playoff wins


This is exactly what I'm talking about.

Cowboys fans look at the last 8 years as a dark period in between our greatness.

Skins fans look at the last 8 years as a badge of honor. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Classic.

[Jeremiah_Johnson]

JJ, will you visit us when the pukes go into the crapper?


You mean like you continued to do after last season?? Sure I will.


Who could ever forget the "Be Afraid NFC East" thread.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[tr1]

This is exactly what I'm talking about.

Cowboys fans look at the last 8 years as a dark period inbetween our greatness.

Skins fans look at the last 8 years as a badge of honor. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Classic.

What do you look at the last eleven years as?

JJ, we've kicked your team's butt 3-4 last games. Can you stop living in the past. Your 'storied' franchise will never progress as long as you have Jerruh at the helm.

Just try to accept it.

[tr1]

You mean like you continued to do after last season?? Sure I will.


Who could ever forget the "Be Afraid NFC East" thread.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Hey, I'm liking you new avatar....

[THEHEREAFTER]

Or was this the first time the future HOF coach was ever undermined by the owner?

Undermined? BP had the control and the dollars to build a team in his image. Bottom line is that he made several mistakes along the way. Once again, BP is a HOF coach because of what he did with the NY Giants in the 1980's and early 90's.

[Jeremiah_Johnson]

First off, love the avator. Classic.

Now to you tr1, In the same sentence you bring up 3 outta 4, and tell me not to live in the past????

Hows 15 outta 19 sound?

Oh let me guess............I'm living in the past now right?

[THEHEREAFTER]

You mean like when he left New England? Yeah, they went to the crapper alright.


Ohhhhhh noooooooo! They gotchu too JJ! :laugh: :laugh: Awwww man, they really did you dirty fam! Good lord! The ES mods are clever. :laugh:

[tr1]

First off, love the avator. Classic.

Now to you tr1, In the same sentence you bring up 3 outta 4, and tell me not to live in the past????

Hows 15 outta 19 sound?

Oh let me guess............I'm living in the past now right?

JJ...you are too funny... :laugh: :laugh:

You've just given me the best present in the world: this thread.

Imagine when you guys tank.

We'll be talking about JJ and his 'reminder' for decades... :laugh:

Awesome, man.

Hey, I hope the mods keep you around for comic relief.

You're stellar.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Jeremiah_Johnson]

Ohhhhhh noooooooo! They gotchu too JJ! :laugh: :laugh: Awwww man, they really did you dirty fam! Good lord! The ES mods are clever. :laugh:
I'll be honest here thehereafter.....I enjoy it, cause it makes it easier to find your own posts.

Plus I was jealous when you got yours !!!!!!!!!:laugh:

[THEHEREAFTER]

You mean like you continued to do after last season?? Sure I will.


Who could ever forget the "Be Afraid NFC East" thread.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

The "Be Afraid NFC East" thread has to be my favorite Tr1 moment ever.

[Gilgamesh]

Great Avatar! This further proves that God's Country IS really Dogpatch...

[Fred Jones]

First off, love the avator. Classic.

Now to you tr1, In the same sentence you bring up 3 outta 4, and tell me not to live in the past????

Hows 15 outta 19 sound?

Oh let me guess............I'm living in the past now right?


I don't get it.

[DWinzit]

Undermined? BP had the control and the dollars to build a team in his image. Bottom line is that he made several mistakes along the way. Once again, BP is a HOF coach because of what he did with the NY Giants in the 1980's and early 90's.Yes undermined, come on THA. You know darn well he had NO say in TO. And when TO didn't like something he went whining to your fake faced owner!

Tuna took a NE team that was in the crapper and brought them to prominence. He took a Jet team that was in the crapper and turned them around. For goodness sake, look at the personnel he left your organization with!

[Jeremiah_Johnson]

JJ...you are too funny... :laugh: :laugh:

You've just given me the best present in the world: this thread.

Imagine when you guys tank.

We'll be talking about JJ and his 'reminder' for decades... :laugh:

Awesome, man.

Hey, I hope the mods keep you around for comic relief.

You're stellar.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Its funny cause you have to talk about us "tanking", and I can't throw it right back atcha.

You know why???

Cause you have to be good first to tank !!!!:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Tr1, you make it so darn easy, thanks :laugh: :laugh:

[THEHEREAFTER]

I'll be honest here thehereafter.....I enjoy it, cause it makes it easier to find your own posts.

Plus I was jealous when you got yours !!!!!!!!!:laugh:


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: I think the clown has you by a bit though. You're not "stylin" as much as I am. :cool:

[DWinzit]

Ohhhhhh noooooooo! They gotchu too JJ! :laugh: :laugh: Awwww man, they really did you dirty fam! Good lord! The ES mods are clever. :laugh::laugh: :laugh: :laugh: It's so wrong, but I can't help but lol!:laugh:

[Fred Jones]

The "Be Afraid NFC East" has to be my favorite Tr1 moment ever.


What?

[tr1]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: I think the clown has you by a bit though. You're not "stylin" as much as I am. :cool:

I think that bulge in the pants of your avatar is tip off that the mods respect you, man.

[Jeremiah_Johnson]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: I think the clown has you by a bit though. You're not "stylin" as much as I am. :cool:

Oh I have to disagree. I can look at my avatar and think its You-know-who's high school prom picture.:laugh: :laugh:

[Fred Jones]

Oh I have to disagree. I can look at my avatar and think its You-know-who's high school prom picture.:laugh: :laugh:

What?

[ArmchairRedskin]

You mean like when he left New England? Yeah, they went to the crapper alright.


He left NE after taking them to the SB. They didn't get to the SB again until 5 years later.

[Jeremiah_Johnson]

I think that bulge in the pants of your avatar is tip off that the mods respect you, man.
Well, we all know where tr1's looking don't we.

Not that there's anything wrong with it.

[THEHEREAFTER]

Yes undermined, come on THA. You know darn well he had NO say in TO. And when TO didn't like something he went whining to your fake faced owner!

Popular belief but pure speculation DWinzit and you know it. T.O. just doesn't show up with a name plate in the locker room without BP signing off. BP wanted one last run but it didn't work out.




Tuna took a NE team that was in the crapper and brought them to prominence. He took a Jet team that was in the crapper and turned them around. For goodness sake, look at the personnel he left your organization with!

Exactly and he was at the end of the road with us. He just couldn't do it any more. You could see it on his face. You could see it on the sidelines. If we didn't win @ Carolina after he started Romo, the man may have commited suicide. I doubt he coaches again. Yes, look at the personnel and look at the results. Another December down the F'n tubes man! Somebodies gotta be accountable. HC's and QB's are judged by their records and postseason results. It's a tough business.

[tr1]

Well, we all know where tr1's looking don't we.

Not that there's anything wrong with it.

JJ, is this the BEST you can do?

I used to think WeOwnYou was the worst puke poster, but I'd have to say you're real close.

This thread is just awesome. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Jeremiah_Johnson]

JJ, is this the BEST you can do?
. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Have you read some of your own threads? I've seen better dribble printed on the back of toilet paper.

[DWinzit]

Popular belief but pure speculation DWinzit and you know it. T.O. just doesn't show up with a name plate in the locker room without BP signing off. I will never buy into Tuna giving the nod to the TO hiring. There were too many items that didn't add up!
Yes, look at the personnel and look at the results. Another December down the F'n tubes man! Somebodies gotta be accountable. HC's and QB's are judged by their records and postseason results. It's a tough business.So your saying Romo is done?

[Fred Jones]

This thread is starting to degrade. Figures it would be puke fans in the middle bringing it down a level.

[Titaw]

JJ, I got a question for you?

What is the record of the Cowboys against the Redskins in the playoffs?

Personally, that is the only record that matters.

[Walking Deadman]

I was just waiting for this one. I thought it was going to be Bubba or Tr1 but WD was first.

Thanks,
To be compared with tr1 and bubba is a true honor. :cheers: :helmet: :)

[Jeremiah_Johnson]

JJ, I got a question for you?

What is the record of the Cowboys against the Redskins in the playoffs?

Personally, that is the only record that matters.

Again, this is the difference between our two organizations.

You look at your record against us in the playoffs.

We look at championships won.


You say "its the only record that matters"

I say "superbowls are the only thing that matters"

Perhaps if you won as many games and championships as the cowboys have, you would understand this.

Unfortunetely for you, you haven't.

[ArmchairRedskin]

Sure is a lot of bravado coming from a fan of a team that backed into the playoffs at 9-7 after another dismal december showing.

[dfos81]

Only thing Dallas fans can come up w/ to start a debate, is what they did over a decade ago, pretty sad :( .

What will be remember of the Dallas Cowgirls THIS DECADE? :silly:

Dallas fans keep wishing that your past successes will automatically give you future results and the Redskins we'll go ahead :whippin: dat azz all over this decade! :laugh:

[THEHEREAFTER]

What?

Classic thread by your very own MR. ATN 2007. He called it "Be Afraid NFCE." Look it up. It's a classic.

[THEHEREAFTER]

What do you look at the last eleven years as?

JJ, we've kicked your team's butt 3-4 last games. Can you stop living in the past. Your 'storied' franchise will never progress as long as you have Jerruh at the helm.

Just try to accept it.

2 of those 3, I wouldn't exactly classify as butt whippings?

[THEHEREAFTER]

I think that bulge in the pants of your avatar is tip off that the mods respect you, man.

I'm not sure I wanna go wherever you're takin' this. This comment is a little creepy for me dude!? :(

[THEHEREAFTER]

So your saying Romo is done?

Of course not and I'm not falling for your jedi mind tricks. Romo went 6-4 in the regular season as a first time starter (BP was not a first year coach) and was a bobbled snap away from advancing in the playoffs.

[THEHEREAFTER]

This thread is starting to degrade. Figures it would be puke fans in the middle bringing it down a level.

Right because guys like tr1 bring such integrity and class to every thread.

[THEHEREAFTER]

Sure is a lot of bravado coming from a fan of a team that backed into the playoffs at 9-7 after another dismal december showing.


:laugh: This is why I absolutely love redskins fans. You guys are coming off a 5-11 season but post on this board like the defending SB champs.

[ArmchairRedskin]

:laugh: This is why I absolutely love redskins fans. You guys are coming off a 5-11 season but post on this board like the defending SB champs.




You guys are fielding pretty much the same inept team. You're adding a head coach who has never ever won a playoff game and an O coordinator who has never coordinated an O before. We have a HOF coach with several SB wins and even a playoff win under his belt in his return and both an O coordinator and a D coordinator who have fielded top 5 units recently.

[Califan007]

:laugh: This is why I absolutely love redskins fans. You guys are coming off a 5-11 season but post on this board like the defending SB champs.
Nah. We just hate the Cowboys. That's more than enough reason to post the way we do. :cool:

[THEHEREAFTER]

Nah. We just hate the Cowboys. That's more than enough reason to post the way we do. :cool:


:) Your overwhelming hatred is like a magnet for Boys fans. Kinda ironic how that works huh?

[THEHEREAFTER]

[QUOTE]You guys are fielding pretty much the same inept team. You're adding a head coach who has never ever won a playoff game and an O coordinator who has never coordinated an O before.

You have to start somewhere right? I think they're both in great situations. Yeah, an inept team with a winning record and that advanced to the playoffs despite a late season collapse. I know we lost in the playoffs yet again but we're far from an inept team.




We have a HOF coach with several SB wins and even a playoff win under his belt in his return and both an O coordinator and a D coordinator who have fielded top 5 units recently.

All this experience which led to returning a 5-11 team, a HOF coach with a losing record since his return, a very green QB and a swiss cheese defense who led the league in fewest sacks and set a league record for lack of turnovers.

[Califan007]

This is exactly what I'm talking about.

Cowboys fans look at the last 8 years as a dark period in between our greatness.

Skins fans look at the last 8 years as a badge of honor. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Classic.
1) Where did I say I was proud of our record over the last 8 years? Exactly. You love arguing non-existing comments, I've noticed. Make up something someone has said, then go on to argue how their non-statment is wrong. You have invisible friends, too, don't you?

2) "In between" Cowboys greatness?...lol :laugh:...Ok, we have the one bookend of "greatness" being the Jimmy Johnson era (or specifically, the last several years of it)....when's that next period of "greatness" due to arrive?

I have a great idea: How about you wait until the Cowboys win something--anything--again, before pretending you have a leg to stand on. Every other team in the NFC East has at least won the division title or playoff games during Snyder's tenure...except your bunch. So what do you say...just have your boys win SOMETHING--Super Bowl, NFC Championship, division title, wildcard game...I don't care what it is. Because, truthfully, your team is embarrassing the rest of the NFC East. Pick up the slack!! :cool:

[ExoDus84]

Despite the success the cowboys HAD at one point, I still wouldn't be making a thread about the vastness of Cowboy Greatness when you havn't even won a playoff game in over a decade. You're right down there with the browns, lions, and cards in that area. Burns huh?

This is a "what have you done for me lately" league. And lately, the skins have a divisional title and two playoff victories. Lately, the pukes have been terrible. As great as THEY USED TO BE is as mediocre as THEY ARE now.

[THEHEREAFTER]

Night Boys! I have like 3 5 year old parties and a county fair tomorrow! :D

[Califan007]

Night Boys! I have like 3 5 year old parties and a county fair tomorrow! :D
3 5 year old parties? What? lol :D

[dfos81]

[QUOTE=ArmchairRedskin]All this experience which led to returning a 5-11 team, a HOF coach with a losing record since his return, a very green QB and a swiss cheese defense who led the league in fewest sacks and set a league record for lack of turnovers.

Here we go again, Do you really think that Gibbs could coach 2 losing seasons in a row? Anythings possible I guess :rolleyes:

We all know why we STUNK last year, we are also not blind enough to see what we did in just the 2nd yr back for Gibbs as well.

So you tell me, are we the team that went 5-11 last year or are we the team that went 10-6 the 2nd yr back for Gibbs?

Either way we have accomplished more in Gibbs 3yrs back than Dallas has done in 10yrs w/ multiple coaches and even a HOF coach as well.

[bubba9497]

:laugh: This is why I absolutely love poke fans. We are coming off a 9-7 season again choking down the stretch but post on this board like the defending SB champs.

corrected

[bubba9497]

:) Your overwhelming hatred is like a magnet for Boys fans. Kinda ironic how that works huh?



see THA this is why you wear the shame of the dancing clown

you can never accept that it's ever the Pokes or their fans fault

the hatred comes from the fact Poke fans come here to squat, and take over with their false bravado, every off season, practicing the ritual of the Poke Fan Mantra, and like their team... point fingers at others to take the blame for all their flaws

[TK]

..........We look at championships won......I say "superbowls are the only thing that matters"

Perhaps if you won as many games and championships as the cowboys have, you would understand this.

Unfortunetely for you, you haven't.
1937 NFL Championship
1942 NFL Championship
1983 Super Bowl Championship
1988 Super Bowl Championship
1992 Super Bowl Championship

Next time, do at least this >.< much research before you talk out of your ass again.

[bubba9497]

1) Where did I say I was proud of our record over the last 8 years? Exactly. You love arguing non-existing comments, I've noticed. Make up something someone has said, then go on to argue how their non-statment is wrong. You have invisible friends, too, don't you?


What else can he do, I mean he can't dispute the truth that is pointed out in rebuttals to his BS, and he is not smart enough to know when to :shutup:

he has to keep digging a deeper and deeper hole to climb out of :laugh:



2) "In between" Cowboys greatness?...lol :laugh:...Ok, we have the one bookend of "greatness" being the Jimmy Johnson era (or specifically, the last several years of it)....when's that next period of "greatness" due to arrive?

when's hell suppose to freeze over?



I have a great idea: How about you wait until the Cowboys win something--anything--again, before pretending you have a leg to stand on.

if he waited, then he never would get to brag about the Pokes

[Califan007]

when's hell suppose to freeze over?

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[bubba9497]

:laugh: :laugh: Let'em know dogg! Talk about stirring the pot... :laugh:
One of the most entertaining thread I've ever read on this site.... :D

BTW, nice sig but you have to have made that line up. No way Bubba ever said that. Can't be!? Can it? :(


as usual, he took it out of context, where I was pointing out how stupid it looks when you post stuff like that to TRPB....

but of course if he posted the entire quote it wouldn't have the same effect


actually I like it, just reminds me how big a coward most poke fans are to face the truth

[dfos81]

1937 NFL Championship
1942 NFL Championship
1983 Super Bowl Championship
1988 Super Bowl Championship
1992 Super Bowl Championship

Next time, do at least this >.< much research before you talk out of your ass again.


:applause: :applause: :cheers:
Just a reminder to NON-SKINS fans ;)

[bubba9497]

Had you been old enough bubba, you would have said something like this.........."Who's this Tom Landry character the Cowboys have hired? He's gonna suck"..............

You probably said........."Jimmy Johnson is a college coach, his game won't translate to the NFL".................


and you said



Chan Gailey, will lead the Pokes to another Super Bowl win ...whooo hoo
Dave Campo, will lead the Pokes to another Super Bowl win ...whooo hoo

Now...


Jerrah's Puppet Coach version 4.0 (Wade), will lead the Pokes to another Super Bowl win ...whooo hoo



So now you want me to worry about Wade??

I want?? :wtf:


you're right, you're not smart enough to realize you should be worried :laugh:


If one thing is as certain as death and taxes, its the Cowboys will keep winning and winning and winning. Just like the Energizer bunny.


I guess the past decade was a battery change? :whoknows:


:doh: only you would use a toy pink bunny as a "being tough" analogy




Every franchise should BOW AT THE FEET OF THE GREATNESS OF THE BOYS.............


the back street boys weren't that good, of course I can see why you worshiped them

[Birdlives]

THA,

You're now being lumped in with Jeremiah_Johnson.

Do you understand how humiliating that is? Please, just quit while you're ahead.

Birdlives

[bubba9497]

You mean like when he left New England? Yeah, they went to the crapper alright.



Speaking of Parcells in NE

he went 5-11, 10-6, 5-11, 11-5 and a Super Bowl appearance

sounds like Gibbs II run :)

BTW you do realize that it was 5 years between Parcell's leaving and his clone Belicheck taking them back to the SB? and he went 5-11 his first year as well.

Ever hear of Pete Carroll? :laugh: he lead them to get progressively worse each year he coached, sort of the Wade Phillips of the Nineties

[Birdlives]

#%#&^#&($$)!

This seem appropriate

I really have to get better at adding photos.

EDIT, hope this works finally.

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/1505/explosiondallaspa3.gif (http://imageshack.us/)

[ArmchairRedskin]

[QUOTE=ArmchairRedskin]

You have to start somewhere right? I think they're both in great situations. Yeah, an inept team with a winning record and that advanced to the playoffs despite a late season collapse. I know we lost in the playoffs yet again but we're far from an inept team.




9-7 and backed in. You're lucky the nfc was so soft last year. I mean even the 8-8 Giants got in. You proved you didn't belong in the playoffs by losing right away.



.

All this experience which led to returning a 5-11 team, a HOF coach with a losing record since his return, a very green QB and a swiss cheese defense who led the league in fewest sacks and set a league record for lack of turnovers.


It's been said by Collins that Saunders' system will take a year to learn and the defense was decimated by injuries and sub par personnel last year. You know personnel situation has been rectified, no need to list them. The only thing you can hope for is that we have a bunch of injuries again. Otherwise we'll be back to form. That's where all that experience from our coaching staff comes in. I aint worried at all about either side of the ball.

[bubba9497]

Have you read some of your own threads? I've seen better dribble printed on the back of toilet paper.

umm most people use toilet paper to wipe their ass with, it's called personal hygiene (look it up)

not to use as stationary

take it with you to the outhouse for a change, your friends will thank you

[bubba9497]

Oh I have to disagree. I can look at my avatar and think its You-know-who's high school prom picture.:laugh: :laugh:


You-know-who????????

Lord Voldemort ??? :whoknows:



I can understand you being proud of your new avatar

the best picture your wife/sister/cousin/grandma ever took :D

[Califan007]

Speaking of Parcells in NE

he went 5-11, 10-6, 5-11, 11-5 and a Super Bowl appearance

sounds like Gibbs II run :)
:cheers:



BTW you do realize that it was 5 years between Parcell's leaving and his clone Belicheck taking them back to the SB? and he went 5-11 his first year as well.
I love when J_J inserts his entire foot inside his mouth like that... :laugh:




Ever hear of Pete Carrol? :laugh: he lead them to get progressively worse each year he coached, sort of the Wade Phillips of the Nineties
What does Pete's daughter look like, though? :cool:

[bubba9497]

1937 NFL Championship
1942 NFL Championship
1983 Super Bowl Championship
1988 Super Bowl Championship
1992 Super Bowl Championship

Next time, do at least this >.< much research before you talk out of your ass again.


you know J_J has "dealing with reality" issues :nono:

Using facts against him, just makes his head hurt

[bubba9497]

I love when J_J inserts his entire foot inside his mouth like that... :laugh:




but he does it so often, kind of takes the fun out of it .... NOT!!


:laugh:

[bubba9497]

Night Boys! I have like 3 5 year old parties and a county fair tomorrow! :D


why does the name John Wayne Gacy come to mind


http://www.prairieghosts.com/gacy2.jpg


:paranoid:

[Siven]

1937 NFL Championship
1942 NFL Championship
1983 Super Bowl Championship
1988 Super Bowl Championship
1992 Super Bowl Championship

Next time, do at least this >.< much research before you talk out of your ass again.

JJ, sit the next couple plays out cause you got owned pretty bad.

[DWinzit]

Night Boys! I have like 3 5 year old parties and a county fair tomorrow! :D:laugh: :applause: :laugh:

[DWinzit]

Another December down the F'n tubes man! Somebodies gotta be accountable. HC's and QB's are judged by their records and postseason results. It's a tough business.

Of course not and I'm not falling for your jedi mind tricks. Well Lone Starr, you did state HC's and QB's must be held accountable. By all appearances you are only holding one of the two accountable. The other has been placed on a pedestal by you, other Cowboy posters, Dallas and the national media. Where did the "it's a tough business" go?

May the swartz be with you!

[Birdlives]

I like JJ's new avatar, it's very fitting. Cant help but wonder if he's thinking: "How did they get my family photoalbum?"

Me, I would have gone with the Homer Simpson pic. It seems so fitting as Homers opinions usually are comic gold.

[SWFLSkins]

Had you been old enough bubba, you would have said something like this.........."Who's this Tom Landry character the Cowboys have hired? He's gonna suck"..............

You probably said........."Jimmy Johnson is a college coach, his game won't translate to the NFL".................


So now you want me to worry about Wade??

_______________________________
\


This is the best, in his mind Wade=Johnson=Landry, when in fact, Landry>Johnson,

and Johnson>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wade.

[SWFLSkins]

Had you been old enough bubba, you would have said something like this.........."Who's this Tom Landry character the Cowboys have hired? He's gonna suck"..............

You probably said........."Jimmy Johnson is a college coach, his game won't translate to the NFL".................


So now you want me to worry about Wade??

If one thing is as certain as death and taxes, its the Cowboys will keep winning and winning and winning. Just like the Energizer bunny.

Every franchise should BOW AT THE FEET OF THE GREATNESS OF THE BOYS.............
__________________________________________________ __

I had to post it again, he really said this.


Wow what a homer.

:laugh: :doh: :laugh: :doh: :laugh: :doh: :laugh: :doh: :laugh:

:dallasuck

[SWFLSkins]

So was this his worst group of players EVER or was he a great coach that was burnt out and past his prime? Depends on who you ask.


_________________________________________

Sounds like you were talking to TO, ---sorry could not help myself.

But really THA, many of your points make some sense regarding the rivalry. When this year is done though, I believe your thoughts on Parcells maybe clarified. I think he is still a fine tactician, but not a people guy. Can Wade take the same players and get them to perform better than Parcells, doubtful given his recent history. But honestly stranger things have happened so I understand you holding out hope being your a fan. I hold out the same hope obviously for Gibbs.

Now I must tell you, I feel much better with the Redskins coaches than I would with what the Cowboys have right now. The question marks abound for the Cowboys while the Skins are returning the same staff for the thrid year essentially. Saunders in his second, Garrett in his first at the OC alone could determine the different outcomes for both teams this season.

[THEHEREAFTER]

We all know why we STUNK last year, we are also not blind enough to see what we did in just the 2nd yr back for Gibbs as well.

Yes, I really do. So do most people. Stay tuned.

So you tell me, are we the team that went 5-11 last year or are we the team that went 10-6 the 2nd yr back for Gibbs?

He's done more losing than winning. You make the call.


Either way we have accomplished more in Gibbs 3yrs back than Dallas has done in 10yrs w/ multiple coaches and even a HOF coach as well

Quite honestly, winning a wild card game and losing in the second round would sting as well. If we can win at all, it would definitely make up for the last 10 years.

[THEHEREAFTER]

corrected


Very clever. All kneel before Lord Bubba. :notworthy

[THEHEREAFTER]

see THA this is why you wear the shame of the dancing clown

I wear the Clown because the powers that be here have become overzealous to call me out and I speak my mind. I'm a fair and honest poster here who defends my team and has fun. I don't think I'm that bad of guy.

you can never accept that it's ever the Pokes or their fans fault

Are results are our results. I can't run and hide from anything. I just hope that we improve just like any other fan. What exactly is the fault of the fans? I don't get it.


the hatred comes from the fact Poke fans come here to squat, and take over with their false bravado, every off season, practicing the ritual of the Poke Fan Mantra, and like their team... point fingers at others to take the blame for all their flaws

Bubba skins fans do the same thing you're accusing us of. Sure this is your board but the two fan bases are going to hate each other regardless. That's why it's a bitter rivalry. I was just kidding with J-Rock because he has a sense of humor. Hint Hint.. :(

[THEHEREAFTER]

1937 NFL Championship
1942 NFL Championship
1983 Super Bowl Championship
1988 Super Bowl Championship
1992 Super Bowl Championship

Next time, do at least this >.< much research before you talk out of your ass again.

I don't count squat before the SB era. Super Bowls TK SUPER BOWLS!

[THEHEREAFTER]

THA,

You're now being lumped in with Jeremiah_Johnson.

Do you understand how humiliating that is? Please, just quit while you're ahead.

Birdlives


:D As you've been lumped in with Bubba and Tr1. Need I say more.

[Lloyds' Mongolian Beef]

This is a bit off topic, but I noticed JJ's location and have come to an interesting conclusion. He claims to be from God's Country (actually Texas). We know that only steers and queers come from Texas. So is JJ promoting the belief that Jesus was homosexual? I say yes. As well, he is also promoting the worship of cows in his religion which is more in line with hinduism than christianity. I must say JJ, you are either a terrible christian, or you're completely lost. In an ironic twist it has been discovered that both are true.

[Chachie]

If the Cowboys weren't successful (over all AND vs. my Redskins) I'd have no reason to hate them.

If the Redskins weren't successful (in both regards again) there'd be no reason for you guys to be posting threads like this on our website. :)

[Califan007]

I don't count squat before the SB era. Super Bowls TK SUPER BOWLS!
Ah, so when you guys talk about the accomplishments in a franchise's history, you don't actually look at each franchise's entire history....just the period that fits your agenda. Gotcha.

[Birdlives]

Ah, so when you guys talk about the accomplishments in a franchise's history, you don't actually look at each franchise's entire history....just the period that fits your agenda. Gotcha.

Standard cowboys fan logic. There was no NFL before they came into the league in 1960. It's a total cop-out and they know it, but it fits their agenda so they use it.

[Titaw]

I don't count squat before the SB era. Super Bowls TK SUPER BOWLS!

The only reason why you don't count squat before the SB era is because it ruins your argument.

All Pokes fans are the same. They will rub ANY win, at nauseum, the Pokes have over the Skins in your face, but when the Skins DOMINATE the series for two years they revert back to, "Get to 14 out of 16 and talk to me!" Are you serious? The Pokes haven't had a winning record against the Skins in 2 years! Pokes fans love to decided themselves when to "count" championships, but god forbid their beloved Pokes get dominated for two years and their trash talk reverts back to the past.

You can throw all of these wins, SB Chamionships, etc. at us, but how is all of this history going to help Wade Philipps become a better choke? How is all of this history going to help Tony Romo hold on to the ball? The simple fact is, past wins mean nothing under a new HC and OC and Tony Romo will always choke.

[TK]

I don't count
We know. :)

[THEHEREAFTER]

Ah, so when you guys talk about the accomplishments in a franchise's history, you don't actually look at each franchise's entire history....just the period that fits your agenda. Gotcha.


The standard when discussing the NFL is the SB era. My NFL time line doesn't go back before the SB era. The league was so different pre-SB era that most don't use it as an evaluation.

[TK]

The standard when discussing the NFL is the SB era. My NFL time line doesn't go back before the SB era. The league was so different pre-SB era that most don't use it as an evaluation.
Funny how the NFL doesn't neglect their history (http://www.nfl.com/history/chronology/1869-1910). But since it negates your argument & continues to make you look stupid, please continue. You're highly entertaining during a boring offseason. :)

[21 always]

Dude how desperate are yo u that you get on this board and actually think pro cowboy stuff gets treated with respect ...... Why dont you cow girlls fans go to teach your QB how to hold a snap on an extra point.... ...... oh what you have 2 bum rb's ... a girl at wr and another one who is scared as hell of sean taylor so he watches him when he goes out for a pass but oh no he does'nt see Laron coming from the other way and ohhhhhhhhh another droped pass .. get the hell out of here with respect the cowboys .... The only thing i have respect for the cowboys would be on advice of which drugs to buy ..And Barry Sanders was and will always be better then emmit!

[Reic]

Wait, since when does Cowboy folklore mean anything?

[SWFLSkins]

The standard when discussing the NFL is the SB era. My NFL time line doesn't go back before the SB era. The league was so different pre-SB era that most don't use it as an evaluation.
______________________

Most? or All Cowboy fans.

How nice for you, ignore the history you don't like and emphasize the history you do, hmmm.

Sorry pal, history happened, so it is written. A name change to promote the championship is not a reasonable excuse for you to exclude the effort of the champions who played then. Players then were tougher, meaner, played with more heart and made next to nothing-that built what is the game today and what is slowly missing from it.

Yes there are many players who still give a crap and play for the love of the game, but back then that is all you had.

[SWFLSkins]

Wait, since when does Cowboy folklore mean anything?
___________________________

Apparently when out on the range rubbing tube snakes together in a tent.

[Titaw]

The standard when discussing the NFL is the SB era. My NFL time line doesn't go back before the SB era. The league was so different pre-SB era that most don't use it as an evaluation.

The word that is bold and underlined is the reason why your rebuttal makes no sense. Way to refute facts with your own opinion.

[dfos81]

The word that is bold and underlined is the reason why your rebuttal makes no sense. Way to refute facts with your own opinion.

:cheers: he does that often. But what can expect from Cow:puke: :laugh:

[dfos81]

______________________

Most? or All Cowboy fans.

How nice for you, ignore the history you don't like and emphasize the history you do, hmmm.

Sorry pal, history happened, so it is written. A name change to promote the championship is not a reasonable excuse for you to exclude the effort of the champions who played then. Players then were tougher, meaner, played with more heart and made next to nothing-that built what is the game today and what is slowly missing from it.

Yes there are many players who still give a crap and play for the love of the game, but back then that is all you had.

:cheers: And another Cow:puke: gets :owned: WHAT AN ENTERTAINING SUNDAY!!!

[DallasSucks19922010]

the redskins are going acknowledge the greatness of the cowboys? why would we? we hate you guys with a passion.

[eagles78]

Thank you for reminding me why I hate Cowboys fans.

[HapHaszard]

JJ keep believing bud, I'm sure the Cowboys will have a decent team some time in the future. Just wait, you guys can't suck forever.

[Who Del]

BOW BEFORE THE GREATNESS OF THE COWBOYS.........

I'll put a .357 magnum to my dome piece before I ever do that.

[Fred Jones]

I'll put a .357 magnum to my dome piece before I ever do that.


Just make sure you finish the job and not have to be on life support for the rest of your life.

[THEHEREAFTER]

Funny how the NFL doesn't neglect their history (http://www.nfl.com/history/chronology/1869-1910). But since it negates your argument & continues to make you look stupid, please continue. You're highly entertaining during a boring offseason. :)

TK I'm not arguing the very fact that the NFL doesn't have a history back from 1869. "Pudge Heffelfinger was paid $500 to play in a game in 1892, becoming the first person to be paid to play football." I just don't acknowledge guys like Pudge Heffelfinger when discussing championships. If you want to use the pre-SB era to catch up to us that's fine. :cool:

[dfos81]

TK I'm not arguing the very fact that the NFL doesn't have a history back from 1869. "Pudge Heffelfinger was paid $500 to play in a game in 1892, becoming the first person to be paid to play football." I just don't acknowledge guys like Pudge Heffelfinger when discussing championships. If you want to use the pre-SB era to catch up to us that's fine. :cool:

facts are facts, if the facts were in your favor this pass 10yrs you wouldn't look so desperate ;)

[bubba9497]

The standard when discussing the NFL is the SB era. My NFL time line doesn't go back before the SB era. The league was so different pre-SB era that most don't use it as an evaluation.


then why do you acknowledge Poke history before you were born?

you couldn't remember any of Landry's success


your time line would begin arounds Gibbs first SB and the Redskins clearly had a little more success than the Pokes but you refuse to acknowledge it :nono:

[dfos81]

Ah, so when you guys talk about the accomplishments in a franchise's history, you don't actually look at each franchise's entire history....just the period that fits your agenda. Gotcha.

:cheers: I wonder if he likes being :owned: by Redskins fans :laugh:

[THEHEREAFTER]

then why do you acknowledge Poke history before you were born?

Because I said nothing about not acknowledging ANY history before I was born. I said the pre-SB era. SB's were being played before I was born in '74. Please stop making stuff up and follow along.


you couldn't remember any of Landry's success

Sure I could. He was the only coach I knew for the first 8 years or so that I was a Dallas fan.


your time line would begin arounds Gibbs first SB and the Redskins clearly had a little more success than the Pokes but you refuse to acknowledge it :nono:

Bubba what the hell are you talkin' about man? You are arrogant as hell telling me when my time line begins? What do you want me to acknowledge? That Gibbs was a great coach? I've done that plenty on this site. I just don't think he's the man he once was in today's NFL.

[dfos81]

I just don't think he's the man he once was in today's NFL.

Kinda like how Dallas is not the same team they were back in 90's. In todays nfl, Dallas is far from "Americas Team" :doh: .

How come a Dallas fan can bring up Dallas's history but when we bring up ours, its not fair.

Is it fair to look at the whole picture not just the parts that favor your :puke: team?

Both teams have great history and tradition, its just Dallas is so overhyped this past decade that its nauseating.

When will Dallas live up to the hype that they gained in the 90's? Let me guess, this season. :laugh: Don't bet on it.

Until they live up to the hype, in my mind they are just Paper Chumps! :dallasuck

[bubba9497]

Because I said nothing about not acknowledging ANY history before I was born. I said the pre-SB era. SB's were being played before I was born in '74. Please stop making stuff up and follow along.

so you can acknowledge history you didn't see or experience, but only when it suits you

got it :laugh:





Sure I could. He was the only coach I knew for the first 8 years or so that I was a Dallas fan.


so by your own account at the earliest you can remember Landry years were his last 8 years or from the 82 season... none of Landry success as far as playoffs and Super Bowls, but right at the time Gibbs run began




Bubba what the hell are you talkin' about man? You are arrogant as hell telling me when my time line begins?


oh stop it :laugh:

it is common sense THA, you were born in 74 and people in their thirties first clear detailed memories are around the age of seven to ten.

but you are trying to tell us that your time line doesn't begin when you actually started being a Poke fan (which you confirmed above) was around 1982

but you acknowledge history that goes BEFORE your memory, even before your birth, but only to the point it suits your agenda... the first years of the Pokes doesn't count, because those years they stunk, only when thy started winning is the beginning of time in your world

and the fact that you want to determine what part of history is relevant, and expect everyone to conform to your time line, but your refuse to accept the real time line..... That my friend is the height of being arrogant

What do you want me to acknowledge? That Gibbs was a great coach? I've done that plenty on this site..


:rotflmao: sure you have sure you have

just like you acknowledge pokes flaws right? the ones you have never ever listed... or when others points out flaws you argue against each and every time... but you have admitted they have flaws :laugh:

keep working it.... somebody might believe your fabrications


I just don't think he's the man he once was in today's NFL.

why?????


are you a certified expert, with years of experience in the NFL?? with inside knowledge of Gibbs and his coaching before and now?

if not then guess what? what you "think" means jack squat

unless you have something tangible to base it on, you know.. articles, facts, stats, any logical conclusion?

:rolleyes:

[hamptonskinsfan]

Of course not and I'm not falling for your jedi mind tricks. Romo went 6-4 in the regular season as a first time starter (BP was not a first year coach) and was a bobbled snap away from advancing in the playoffs.

I'm glad you brought this up because under your same logic the redskins were one "bobbled Snap" away from going to the championship game in 2000 (please look up Redskins vs. Buccaneers in particular Dan Turk to brad johnson exchange on last play of the game). which brings me to point #2, who is your holder this year now that Romo has been relieved of his holding duties??? I'll give you a BIG hint.............................................. .......







He was the last Redskin holder to mess up a Field Goal in a Redskin PLAYOFF game. (another hint try the year 2000 Vs. the Buccaneers).




give up ... BRAD JOHNSON. from one fumbler to another. good luck :laugh: lol :dallasuck

[SWFLSkins]

I just don't acknowledge guys like Pudge Heffelfinger when discussing championships. If you want to use the pre-SB era to catch up to us that's fine.


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Your argument is just bias bs. btw, laces out, how is that for recent history.

[SWFLSkins]

Undermined? BP had the control and the dollars to build a team in his image. Bottom line is that he made several mistakes along the way. Once again, BP is a HOF coach because of what he did with the NY Giants in the 1980's and early 90's.


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And Wade Phillips was a better selection because????? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :dallasuck :dallasuck :dallasuck :dallasuck :dallasuck :dallasuck

[SWFLSkins]

Oh I have to disagree. I can look at my avatar and think its You-know-who's high school prom picture.:laugh: :laugh:


=====================Your date? -btw, your a great straight man, no wait a minute that is not right. :silly:

[SWFLSkins]

Popular belief but pure speculation DWinzit and you know it. T.O. just doesn't show up with a name plate in the locker room without BP signing off. BP wanted one last run but it didn't work out.






Exactly and he was at the end of the road with us. He just couldn't do it any more. You could see it on his face. You could see it on the sidelines. If we didn't win @ Carolina after he started Romo, the man may have commited suicide. I doubt he coaches again. Yes, look at the personnel and look at the results. Another December down the F'n tubes man! Somebodies gotta be accountable. HC's and QB's are judged by their records and postseason results. It's a tough business.


____________________________

Enough with Wade's resume let's talk about the first paid player ever.

[dfos81]

BP had the control and the dollars to build a team in his image. Bottom line is that he made several mistakes along the way. Once again, BP is a HOF coach because of what he did with the NY Giants in the 1980's and early 90's.

Just like Dallas used to be a great team in the 90's and had a few superbowls w/ Landry as well. Thats the same logic your using on why BP was known for what he did w/ the NY Giants.

[THEHEREAFTER]

so you can acknowledge history you didn't see or experience, but only when it suits you

got it :laugh:

I don't acknowledge the Pre-SB era when discussing championships. That's all. That's just me. I'm not saying that the history doesn't exist. For example, I wouldn't say the redskins have as many championships as Dallas in casual discussion. I'm wouldn't necessarily have a problem with someone who counts championships before the SB. Just expressing what I recognize.







so by your own account at the earliest you can remember Landry years were his last 8 years or from the 82 season... none of Landry success as far as playoffs and Super Bowls, but right at the time Gibbs run began

Nope, you're not counting right. I became a fan at around age 6 so about 1980. I remember watching Dwight Clark crush my spirits at Candlestick. Although I don't remember Dallas beating the Broncos in '79, Landry did make the playoffs in the 1980's repeatedly.






oh stop it :laugh:

it is common sense THA, you were born in 74 and people in their thirties first clear detailed memories are around the age of seven to ten.

but you are trying to tell us that your time line doesn't begin when you actually started being a Poke fan (which you confirmed above) was around 1982

I never said a year. It was around 1980.... and why the hell are you trying to figure me out this hard. Relax Bubba. Are you insane? A control freak? This is a message board. You've gotten so bad that you're arguing when and what age I started following the Cowboys like you argue Tony Romo's stats. Good Grief man.

but you acknowledge history that goes BEFORE your memory, even before your birth, but only to the point it suits your agenda... the first years of the Pokes doesn't count, because those years they stunk, only when thy started winning is the beginning of time in your world

Of course not. I just don't count the pre-SB era when casually discussing championships. We were horrible in the sixties and we've been horrible since I've been alive and following the Cowboys. I'm not running from history. My team has been God-awful and great and everything in between which makes winning that much sweeter. The pre AFL NFL merger and especially the pre SB just insn't my reality when discussing football.

and the fact that you want to determine what part of history is relevant, and expect everyone to conform to your time line, but your refuse to accept the real time line..... That my friend is the height of being arrogant




:rotflmao: sure you have sure you have

just like you acknowledge pokes flaws right? the ones you have never ever listed... or when others points out flaws you argue against each and every time... but you have admitted they have flaws :laugh:

keep working it.... somebody might believe your fabrications

Think about it. 99% OF YOUR EXISTENCE ON THIS BOARD IS TO DISCUSS YOUR PERCeiVED FLAWS OF THE DALLAS COWBOYS. There's really no need to discuss my teams flaws. You guys do it all day every day. Some of you even moreso than you discuss your own team. I've discussed my own teams flaws plenty you just don't pay attention.



why?????


are you a certified expert, with years of experience in the NFL?? with inside knowledge of Gibbs and his coaching before and now?

ARE YOU?? Who is on this MESSAGE BOARD? We are fans with opinions. There's something seriously wrong with you man.

if not then guess what? what you "think" means jack squat

So whomever isn't "a certified expert with years of experience in the NFL with inside knowledge of Gibbs and his coaching before and now".... there opinion means jack squat? I guess I'm not allowed to express what I think of Joe Gibbs? By your own statement, yours and everyone else's opinion on this site means jack squat. Brilliant.



unless you have something tangible to base it on, you know.. articles, facts, stats, any logical conclusion?

What about 27 years of watching football and my brain. My opinion. I give you stats and facts but you refute anything that you don't like. Joe Gibbs must really touch a nerve with you. Many skins fans also question whether Gibbs still "has it."

[THEHEREAFTER]

Just like Dallas used to be a great team in the 90's and had a few superbowls w/ Landry as well. Thats the same logic your using on why BP was known for what he did w/ the NY Giants.

Yes. Dallas hasn't been an elite team since the 90's. BP achieved his HOF status BEFORE Dallas. You got it.

[TK]

I don't acknowledge the Pre-SB era when discussing championships. That's all. That's just me. I'm not saying that the history doesn't exist. For example, I wouldn't say the redskins have as many championships as Dallas in casual discussion. I'm wouldn't necessarily have a problem with someone who counts championships before the SB. Just expressing what I recognize.

I just don't count the pre-SB era when casually discussing championships.

and the fact that you want to determine what part of history is relevant, and expect everyone to conform to your time line, but your refuse to accept the real time line..... That my friend is the height of being arrogant
Impressive.

With that rant, you managed to own yourself. :laugh:

[Area51]

What happens when you smoke crack?

You start a pathetic thread about the success of America's second choice team on their hated rival's website.

Seriously though, get off the crack. Looking at your pic in your avatar, its really taking its toll on you.

[ptr77]

Impressive.

With that rant, you managed to own yourself. :laugh:


WOW. Has he managed to put his foot in his mouth everytime he posts? If it wasn't so funny i would actually feel bad for him. THA quit while you are very, very, very far behind and save face. The nfl was founded in 1920, not when you were born and not when the superbowl was played. You can recognize whatever you want, you look rediculously foolish and every post clashes with the next. And the cowboys haven't been "great" in over a decade, brag about the here and now, if you want to trophy polish, then past nfl championships count as do superbowls.

[Dance04]

THA, says here you're 33 years old.... what exactly are you doing accumulating over 4,000 posts on the message board of a team that is the worst enemy of your own? just a question:laugh:

[bubba9497]

I don't acknowledge the Pre-SB era when discussing championships. That's all. That's just me. I'm not saying that the history doesn't exist. For example, I wouldn't say the redskins have as many championships as Dallas in casual discussion. I'm wouldn't necessarily have a problem with someone who counts championships before the SB. Just expressing what I recognize.

Bull ****, you're using your "opinion" in a debate as if it is the definitive period of time that matters.

but why should I be surprised at you back tracking and twisting history to suit your needs :laugh:



I just don't count the pre-SB era when casually discussing championships.

and the fact that you want to determine what part of history is relevant, and expect everyone to conform to your time line, but your refuse to accept the real time line..... That my friend is the height of being arrogant


oh boy, you wanted to mock me, but in the process you really made a boob out of yourself :laugh:

1. You called yourself arrogant, which is true, and funny... I like how you even copied the "but your refuse to accept the real time line" insinuating that yours is the real time line, again as TK said completely owning yourself

2. accusing me of trying to force my belief on others, when the history of the NFL is a documented period of time, a fact... not what "I" recognize to suit my needs... because it doesn't matter if I felt I was so self important, that I actually believe it matters that I must recognize it, because it's a freaking fact

3. you calling anyone arrogant is hypocritical (oh and before you try and post a comeback to call me hypocritical, I would suggest looking it up and understand what the word means, and use it correctly unlike what you usually do)

You can't seem to grasp that your only using "your" opinion or beliefs, what "you" think as proof, in a debate, to confirm your point, or in a rebuttal to someone else's post, is self serving, arrogant, self righteous, and incorrect. You actually belief that what you think is correct, and you are always right, and despite the someone else has actual factual information, confirmed from legitimate sources to back their opinion or response, you actually try to dispute it with your own, backed only by adding, "I", as if it is actual proof :doh:

[Mooka]

The Dallas Cowboys, best team money, sex and drugs can buy.



http://www.speakersonhealthcare.com/images/speakerphotos/thomas_henderson.jpg
-Confessions of a Cocaine Cowboy
Heard ol' Hollywood won the Texas State Lottery. Now he can pay his girls with cash instead of crack.




http://lashawnbarber.com/images/irvin.jpg
Mr HoF himself.






http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/pg2/2001/1129/photo/s_newton_i.jpg
"I don't even like pot," - Nate Newton
Could've fooled me. :laugh:




http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/img/06-06/0620gaffe_lett.jpg
Sadly, this is Leon when he's sober.

"This is not America's Team. This is more like America's children, trying to find out who they are, posturing and screaming and making idiots of themselves in front of the TV cameras. Every time I see them on TV, I don't know whether to root for the defense or root for the prosecution. No, this will never be America's Team. If this is, then woe is America."
- Jerry Kramer

[ImRickJamesB]

The only reason why you don't count squat before the SB era is because it ruins your argument.


Seriously :stop:, the '37 and '42 "Championships", they're NOT on par with a SuperBowl..... :nono:

In '37 and '42, there were only 2 divisions, comprised of 5 teams each (10 teams total)... 11 game season...

In '37 and '42, there was only 1 "playoff" game. Back then, winning the "championship", was like winning the NFC-East, and then winning a wildcard game in today's age.

All of Dallas' 5 SuperBowl Championships, have come in a league comprised of 3 times as many teams (26-30 teams)! Also, 3 times as many playoff games!
Not to mention, a much longer regular season (14 - mostly 16 games)...

Almost EVERY team won a couple of "championships" in the 10 team era.... :jerk:

Heck, even Philadelphia won 2 in a row!!! So what's next, somebody wanna tell me that Eagles team was one of the NFL's greatest dynasties? :laugh:
The Giants also won 3.....
Even Cleveland and the lowly Cardinals, pulled 2 "championships" outta the 10 team era...

Just something funny, the Skins lost to the Bears in the 1940 "Championship" game 73-0..........:doh: ........ :laugh:

Fact is, the Redskins were (at best) the 5th best team, in an era of only 10........

:notworthy

[bubba9497]

Seriously, the '37 and '42 "Championships", they're NOT on par with a SuperBowl.....

In '37 and '42, there were only 2 divisions, comprised of 5 teams each (10 teams total)... 11 game season...

In '37 and '42, there was only 1 "playoff" game. Back then, winning the "championship", was like winning the NFC-East, and then winning a wildcard game in today's age.

All of Dallas' 5 SuperBowl Championships, have come in a league comprised of 3 times as many teams (26-30 teams)! Also, 3 times as many playoff games!
Not to mention, a much longer regular season (14 - mostly 16 games)...

Almost EVERY team won a couple of "championships" in the 10 team era.... :rolleyes:

Heck, even Philadelphia won 3 in a row!!! So what's next, y'all gonna tell me that Eagles team was one of the NFL's greatest dynasties?
The Giants also won 3.....
Even Cleveland and the lowly Cardinals, pulled 2 "championships" outa the 10 team era...

Fact is, the Redskins were the 5th best team, in an era of only 10........

:notworthy



you do realize that the more teams the more the talent level was watered down

so actually championship won when there were 32 teams, or 30 team or 28 teams league were actually much less difficult to win based on pure talent level ratio of their respective era

[ross3909]

Had you been old enough bubba, you would have said something like this.........."Who's this Tom Landry character the Cowboys have hired? He's gonna suck"..............

You probably said........."Jimmy Johnson is a college coach, his game won't translate to the NFL".................


So now you want me to worry about Wade??

If one thing is as certain as death and taxes, its the Cowboys will keep winning and winning and winning. Just like the Energizer bunny.

Every franchise should BOW AT THE FEET OF THE GREATNESS OF THE BOYS.............

Ummm...3 out of the last 4, and soon to be 5 out of the last 6.

[ptr77]

Seriously :stop:, the '37 and '42 "Championships", they're NOT on par with a SuperBowl..... :nono:

In '37 and '42, there were only 2 divisions, comprised of 5 teams each (10 teams total)... 11 game season...

In '37 and '42, there was only 1 "playoff" game. Back then, winning the "championship", was like winning the NFC-East, and then winning a wildcard game in today's age.

All of Dallas' 5 SuperBowl Championships, have come in a league comprised of 3 times as many teams (26-30 teams)! Also, 3 times as many playoff games!
Not to mention, a much longer regular season (14 - mostly 16 games)...

Almost EVERY team won a couple of "championships" in the 10 team era.... :jerk:

Heck, even Philadelphia won 2 in a row!!! So what's next, somebody wanna tell me that Eagles team was one of the NFL's greatest dynasties? :laugh:
The Giants also won 3.....
Even Cleveland and the lowly Cardinals, pulled 2 "championships" outta the 10 team era...

Just something funny, the Skins lost to the Bears in the 1940 "Championship" game 73-0..........:doh: ........ :laugh:

Fact is, the Redskins were (at best) the 5th best team, in an era of only 10........

:notworthy



The league gets watered down as more teams are added, watch the nhl if you don't believe it, they need to axe some teams. If you want to polish trophies won in the NFL, then past NFL CHAMPIONSHIPS should count. You can't say the don't count because your precious boys didn't win them. Talk about the number of teams all you want, there were still great players back then, thats what won the games, not "oh there's only ten teams i guess its our turn to win". If you discredit the championships based on the league size, then how about we only count the superbowls with 32 teams, and all the others are discredited, and when the league expands again we discredit the league with 32 teams. What if in the future, years from now there are 60 teams, will the cowboys championships be worthless because they were won with a lot less teams? ( 2X the 26 to 32 teams you stated) The number of games and playoffs games is also meaningless, the best team shows up on sunday and wins the game, so if there were 100 or just 1 game the best team should in all likelihood win the title regardless.

[Birdlives]

:D As you've been lumped in with Bubba and Tr1. Need I say more.


Really? Do they own you as frequently as I have? :silly:

I guess those defeats are still fresh in your mind. :laugh:

Seriously, considering your post history with me that was the exact wrong direction to go.

[ouvan59]

The standard when discussing the NFL is the SB era. My NFL time line doesn't go back before the SB era. The league was so different pre-SB era that most don't use it as an evaluation.

Kind of ironic that JJ's original rant bragged on the Cowboys' entire history and not just the SB era history.

By the way, the modern era of football is not the SB era. It may be for the mouth-breathing, attention-span challenged, ESPN-gulping Gen X but not by the rest of the world. Here are some facts for you. Vince Lombardi is almost universally considered the greatest football coach of all time. He did the majority of his coaching prior to the SB era. Tom Landry was a great coach (D coodinator for Giants) in the 50s before he was a great coach in the 60s, 70s and 80s. Bart Starr won two SB MVPs but said his greatest football moment was winning the NFL Championship in 1961. But I guess he must be senile or something because clearly it should be winning the 1st SB because that's when football began, right?

Just another bunch of cherry picking Cowboy fans. :doh:

[bubba9497]

Kind of ironic that JJ's original rant bragged on the Cowboys' entire history and not just the SB era history.

By the way, the modern era of football is not the SB era. It may be for the mouth-breathing, attention-span challenged, ESPN-gulping Gen X but not by the rest of the world. Here are some facts for you. Vince Lombardi is almost universally considered the greatest football coach of all time. He did the majority of his coaching prior to the SB era. Tom Landry was a great coach (D coodinator for Giants) in the 50s before he was a great coach in the 60s, 70s and 80s. Bart Starr won two SB MVPs but said his greatest football moment was winning the NFL Championship in 1961. But I guess he must be senile or something because clearly it should be winning the 1st SB because that's when football began, right?

Just another bunch of cherry picking Cowboy fans. :doh:



the NFL's greatest game is considered to be the 1958 Championship

Colts vs Giants

Jim Brown stats all before the SB era, retired 1965

the AFL started in 1960

[dfos81]

Impressive.

With that rant, you managed to own yourself. :laugh:

Only a cowboy could do that :laugh: :laugh: :dallasuck

[dfos81]

Kind of ironic that JJ's original rant bragged on the Cowboys' entire history and not just the SB era history.

By the way, the modern era of football is not the SB era. It may be for the mouth-breathing, attention-span challenged, ESPN-gulping Gen X but not by the rest of the world. Here are some facts for you. Vince Lombardi is almost universally considered the greatest football coach of all time. He did the majority of his coaching prior to the SB era. Tom Landry was a great coach (D coodinator for Giants) in the 50s before he was a great coach in the 60s, 70s and 80s. Bart Starr won two SB MVPs but said his greatest football moment was winning the NFL Championship in 1961. But I guess he must be senile or something because clearly it should be winning the 1st SB because that's when football began, right?

Just another bunch of cherry picking Cowboy fans. :doh:

Another good day to see a Skin "owning" a Cowgirl :applause: This was brutal though, I'm starting to think they come here just to be :owned: :laugh: :laugh:

[Birdlives]

and the fact that you want to determine what part of history is relevant, and expect everyone to conform to your time line, but your refuse to accept the real time line..... That my friend is the height of being arrogant


Wow. Just wow. I guess you didn't realize that's exactly what you're doing, huh?

This combined with "the pre-SuperBowl era doesn't count." is the exact definition of hypocrisy.

:laugh:

[Fred Jones]

I wonder why the SB trophy is named after a coach that only won two SB's? I don't know what he did before he won his two Super Bowls because puke fans say that is irrelevant.

There are a lot of coaches that have won a lot more games and Super Bowls than him. Walsh, for example, changed the game with his WCO. Maybe we should petition the league to change it to the Walsh trophy instead of that coach that only won two Super Bowls. I can't remember how many championships he won before the Super Bowl era because they don't count.

[bubba9497]

Wonder why the city of Cleveland wanted to keep all their teams records and championships as the Browns, when they reformed as a team in 99, because all the important stuff was before the SB era, :whoknows:

[pjfootballer]

Sorry, Getting to this thread real late.

Poor statistics on your part. I'll forgive you, cause I'm big like that, but we all know that the cowboys are the epitome of greatness and no other franchise can stack up to them no matter how they try.



I think the 49ers and Steelers and maybe the Packers would have something to say about that.

[pjfootballer]

1) Where did I say I was proud of our record over the last 8 years? Exactly. You love arguing non-existing comments, I've noticed. Make up something someone has said, then go on to argue how their non-statment is wrong. You have invisible friends, too, don't you?

2) "In between" Cowboys greatness?...lol :laugh:...Ok, we have the one bookend of "greatness" being the Jimmy Johnson era (or specifically, the last several years of it)....when's that next period of "greatness" due to arrive?

I have a great idea: How about you wait until the Cowboys win something--anything--again, before pretending you have a leg to stand on. Every other team in the NFC East has at least won the division title or playoff games during Snyder's tenure...except your bunch. So what do you say...just have your boys win SOMETHING--Super Bowl, NFC Championship, division title, wildcard game...I don't care what it is. Because, truthfully, your team is embarrassing the rest of the NFC East. Pick up the slack!! :cool:

Their so called "periods of greatness" lasted from 1967-1982 (2 SB wins and 3 SB defeats plus numerous NFC title game defeats) and went in the dumper until 1992. Then went back in the dumper fromn 1996-present. Think about that 2nd "period of greatness". It was only 4 years. 1992-1996

[pjfootballer]

I Nope, you're not counting right. I became a fan at around age 6 so about 1980. I remember watching Dwight Clark crush my spirits at Candlestick. Although I don't remember Dallas beating the Broncos in '79, Landry did make the playoffs in the 1980's repeatedly.


This is probably a typo, but you beat the Broncos during the 1977-78 season.

[pjfootballer]

Even Cleveland and the lowly Cardinals, pulled 2 "championships" outta the 10 team era...



Cleveland actually won 4 AAFC Championships AND FOUR more NFL Championships in 50, 54,55 and 64. Get your facts straight.

[dfos81]

Califan wrote,
Every other team in the NFC East has at least won the division title or playoff games during Snyder's tenure...except your bunch. So what do you say...just have your boys win SOMETHING--Super Bowl, NFC Championship, division title, wildcard game...I don't care what it is. Because, truthfully, your team is embarrassing the rest of the NFC East. Pick up the slack!!
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It just keeps on getting better, good point Califan :cheers:

[bubba9497]

Landry's post season in the 80's

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/dalindex.htm




1985
NFC Divisional Playoff: lost 0 - 20 at Los Angeles Rams
1983
NFC Wildcard Game: lost 17 - 24 vs. Los Angeles Rams
1982
NFC Wildcard Game: won 30 - 17 vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
NFC Divisional Playoff: won 37 - 26 vs. Green Bay Packers
NFC Championship Game: lost 17 - 31 at Washington Redskins
1981
NFC Divisional Playoff: won 38 - 0 vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
NFC Championship Game: lost 27 - 28 at San Francisco 49ers

[elkabong82]

Seriously :stop:, the '37 and '42 "Championships", they're NOT on par with a SuperBowl..... :nono:

In '37 and '42, there were only 2 divisions, comprised of 5 teams each (10 teams total)... 11 game season...

In '37 and '42, there was only 1 "playoff" game. Back then, winning the "championship", was like winning the NFC-East, and then winning a wildcard game in today's age.

All of Dallas' 5 SuperBowl Championships, have come in a league comprised of 3 times as many teams (26-30 teams)! Also, 3 times as many playoff games!
Not to mention, a much longer regular season (14 - mostly 16 games)...

Almost EVERY team won a couple of "championships" in the 10 team era.... :jerk:

Heck, even Philadelphia won 2 in a row!!! So what's next, somebody wanna tell me that Eagles team was one of the NFL's greatest dynasties? :laugh:
The Giants also won 3.....
Even Cleveland and the lowly Cardinals, pulled 2 "championships" outta the 10 team era...

Just something funny, the Skins lost to the Bears in the 1940 "Championship" game 73-0..........:doh: ........ :laugh:

Fact is, the Redskins were (at best) the 5th best team, in an era of only 10........

:notworthy


So I guess older World Series, NBA Championships, and Stanley Cups don't count because there were less teams then there are now.

The Cowboys had more teams with less talent to face. That's why there were dynasties when the Cowboys were winning Superbowls, because it was easier. That's why it was the Cowboys and Steelers all the time in the 70's. So congrats, you all dominated in an era before free agency when you were at a huge advantage to do so. That's like trying to claim greatness when you beat a one legged man in a marathon.

Dallas has won a good amount of championships. However, they are the only team with multiple championships who's players are poor role models, convicts, drug addicts. So while other teams have won multiple times, they did so while maintaining class with their franchise. So congratulations Cowboys for snorting up all the white, and leaving a black mark.

[pjfootballer]

Here's something interesting:

Team Championship Years Total/Years Frequency Percent
Green Bay Packers 29 30 31 36 39 44 61 62 65 66 67 96 12 in 79 yrs 1 every 6.58 yrs. (15.2%)
Chicago Bears 21 32 33 40 41 43 46 63 85 9 in 79 yrs 1 every 8.78 yrs (11.4%)
N Y Giants 27 34 38 56 86 90 6 in 75 yrs 1 every 12.5 yrs (8.0%)
Washington Redskins 37 42 82 87 91 5 in 63 yrs 1 every 12.6 yrs (7.9%)
San Francisco 49ers 81 84 88 89 94 5 in 50 yrs 1 every 10 yrs (5.0%)
Dallas Cowboys 71 77 92 93 95 5 in 40 yrs 1 every 8 yrs (12.7%)
Detroit Lions 35 52 53 57 4 in 66 yrs 1 every 16.5 yrs (6.1%)
Cleveland Browns 50 54 55 64 4 in 50 yrs 1 every 12.5 yrs (8.0%)
Pittsburgh Steelers 74 75 78 79 4 in 67 yrs 1 every 16.8 yrs (6.7%)
Bulldogs of Canton/Cleve 22 23 24 3 in 6 yrs 1 every 2 yrs (50.0%)
Philadelphia Eagles 48 49 60 3 in 67 yrs 1 every 22.3 yrs (4.5%)
Baltimore Colts 58 59 70 3 in 48 yrs 1 every 16 yrs (6.3%)
Raiders of .Oakland/L.A. 76(O) 80(O) 83(L) 3 in 30 yrs 1 every 10 yrs (10.0%)
Rams of Cleve, L.A. & S.L. 45(C) 51(L) 99(S) 3 in 62 yrs 1 every 20.7 yrs (4.8%)
Chicago Cardinals 25 47 2 in 79 yrs 1 every 39.5 yrs (2.5%)
Miami Dophins 72 73 2 in 30 yrs 1 every 15 yrs (6.7%)
Denver Broncos 97 98 2 in 30 yrs 1 every 15 yrs (6.7%)
Frankford PA. Yellowjackets 26 1 in 8 yrs 1 every 8 yrs (12.5%)
Providence RI. Steamrollers 28 1 in 7 yrs 1 every 7 yrs (14.3%)
New York Jets 68 1 in 30 yrs 1 every 30 yrs (3.3%)
Kansas City Chiefs 69 1 in 30 yrs 1 every 30 yrs (3.3%)



__________________________________________________ _____________________________________________ SOURCES: The Official NFL Encyclopedia of Pro Football (NFL Properties, Inc. - 1982); Green Bay Packer Yearbooks; Packer Media Guides.

Looks like they pretty much recognize all championships. :doh:

[Birdlives]

Seriously :stop:, the '37 and '42 "Championships", they're NOT on par with a SuperBowl..... :nono:

In '37 and '42, there were only 2 divisions, comprised of 5 teams each (10 teams total)... 11 game season...

In '37 and '42, there was only 1 "playoff" game. Back then, winning the "championship", was like winning the NFC-East, and then winning a wildcard game in today's age.

All of Dallas' 5 SuperBowl Championships, have come in a league comprised of 3 times as many teams (26-30 teams)! Also, 3 times as many playoff games!
Not to mention, a much longer regular season (14 - mostly 16 games)...

Almost EVERY team won a couple of "championships" in the 10 team era.... :jerk:

Heck, even Philadelphia won 2 in a row!!! So what's next, somebody wanna tell me that Eagles team was one of the NFL's greatest dynasties? :laugh:
The Giants also won 3.....
Even Cleveland and the lowly Cardinals, pulled 2 "championships" outta the 10 team era...

Just something funny, the Skins lost to the Bears in the 1940 "Championship" game 73-0..........:doh: ........ :laugh:

Fact is, the Redskins were (at best) the 5th best team, in an era of only 10........

:notworthy


Wow, that is some of the worst logic and rationalization I have ever seen. If the cowboys had won anything before the Super Bowl era there is no doubt the cowboys fans would mention it. Just so happens they didn't so it's not relevant. How convenient. Fact of the matter is, until the merger the NFL maxed out at all of 14 teams!

Go tell the Packers fans if their five consecutive NFL championships including 2 SuperBowl wins count and see how long you survive. This is sheer arrogance and ignorance and completely disrespectful to all the players who played in the NFL before 1965.

You know, the guys who did for the sheer love of the game because they weren't getting paid squat. Guys who commonly played both sides of the ball. Guys who had to have off-season jobs to earn a living. Just the guys who built this league so you yokels in dallas could even have a team.

Not to mention the fact that back before the merger the game was a true battle. Guys could get away with kicking, hitting, punching. No face masks. WR's could be mugged all the way down the field. DB's could clothesline tackle, DL's could head slap and tackle with their helmets. QB's could be flat out destroyed without any protection rules in place.

But yeah, those guys didn't play real football because the vaunted dallas cowboys weren't in the league yet. If anything, the cowboys came into a league that was much easier than those years previous. Winning an NFL Championship was just as hard then as it is now, just under different circumstances and anyone who wants to actually say, "well those titles dont count" isn't a real football fan. Those people are bandwagon frontrunners who only like the dallas cowboys because they think the star on the side of their helmets is pretty.

Go email Staubach and ask him if the NFL titles before the SuperBowl counted. Go ask Dandy Don or Bullet Bob what they think. Go ask Bob Lilly whether he was playing real football back in his day. Go ask any cowboys player from before 1980 and see how they look at you crosseyed and think you're about the lamest fan in the world.

[dfos81]

I don't know if Cowboy fans realize it, but they wouldn't even be a team now, if The National Football league didn't have the history before them.

So they can look over it, but the fact remains, without the past, you have no future. That may be a lil deep for steers and queers though :laugh:

Its like saying, well I wasn't born until 81, so who cares about my parents, grandparents, great grandparents, etc. They didn't accomplish what I did since 81.

Kinda greedy, arrogant, and selfish if you ask me...hmmmmm...like a Dallas Cowboy fan, who woulda thunk it :D

[illone]

Don't mind the minor fact that the Skins are the biggest winners where it counts the most: Money.

The NFL is a business, and we do it better than you.

:)

[Dance04]

why the hell do these cowpukes fans even post here. why the hell dont they get a life instead. all it shows it that they are middle aged men, who have nothing better to do then to start **** on a message board designated for a different team. i think each of these cowpukes need to get a life, get laid, or even, at the very least get a BJ by some cheap whore. Grow the hell up, and if any of these cowpuke fans come here and say " i have a wife, and some kids" then i will laugh in there face because like i said, they arent spending 20 minutes on their teams message boards, its on a board of a different team. GROW THE **** UP YOU ROMOSEXUALS (/end rant)

[Riggo#44]

There are alot of threads in the ATN that are somewhat negative to the greatness of the Dallas Cowboys. I think this is a good time to remind many of you just how great the Cowboys were.

There you go J_J that's a little more accurate

[riggins4452]

Damn you and the cowboy you rode in on, we'll see how much all of your "conveniently recognized' history means on NOV 18. It must have meant a whole helluva lot to you girls' lately.:redpunch:

[Om]

I see dead threads.

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