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twenty-eight
August-2nd-2007, 11:28 AM
I believe this to be the hardest pick of the draft. Assuming LT and Steven Jackson are off the board.

It's a simple scoring system.

1 point for 10 rushing yards
6 poins for td

BoBoCTiberius
August-3rd-2007, 08:22 AM
LJ will go before Steven Jackson. You take Steven Jackson. And, if LJ isn't off the board, you take LJ.

twenty-eight
August-3rd-2007, 10:17 AM
LJ seems is going to be a dud this season. Ive read a bunch of stats on RB's that lead me to believe that he is going have a severe dropoff in yards and td's....After the amount of carries he got last year and the chiefs o-line isnt as good as it once was.

Steven Jackson seems to be the conesus number two pick, he has more upside. He almost had 100 receptions and he had a ton of rec yards.


:whoknows: :(

I think Shaun Alexander is due for a bounceback year. Seriously, he'll get 1500 yards and 16 td's easily...I just dont know i want to take him at three

I'm leaning towards Gore, the man lead the NFC in rushing last year.

Blue Collar Skins
August-3rd-2007, 10:31 AM
Larry Johnson

kuraitengai
August-3rd-2007, 11:18 AM
id go with gore...with all the talk about the 49ers offense plans for this season. they seem to want to turn gore into something similar to stephen jackson as a rusher and dual threat receiver out of the backfield. so depending on the status of his broken hand, should be the better pickup. and hopefully the hand isnt bad since i have gore in one league.

JasonCampbell177
August-3rd-2007, 12:31 PM
LJ seems is going to be a dud this season. Ive read a bunch of stats on RB's that lead me to believe that he is going have a severe dropoff in yards and td's....After the amount of carries he got last year and the chiefs o-line isnt as good as it once was.

Steven Jackson seems to be the conesus number two pick, he has more upside. He almost had 100 receptions and he had a ton of rec yards.


:whoknows: :(

I think Shaun Alexander is due for a bounceback year. Seriously, he'll get 1500 yards and 16 td's easily...I just dont know i want to take him at three

I'm leaning towards Gore, the man lead the NFC in rushing last year.

Im going to agree with Shaun Alexander having a bounceback year.. I would take him or Gore.

twenty-eight
August-3rd-2007, 03:10 PM
For those of you saying Larry Johnson. Check out the ESPN Fantasy Football Magazine breakdown. They have LJ at two but you guys should read the breakdown on him....I dont think I'd take LJ at three

twenty-eight
August-4th-2007, 12:13 AM
Why Larry Johnson? Could those of you who picked him please explain why you would take him at three? please....thanks

TheREALJBird
August-5th-2007, 04:33 PM
Im leaning towards Frank Gore on this one. LJ has all kinds of questions regarding him and (if he stays in KC) that line isn't getting any younger. Gore was a pleasant surprise last season and with a healthy Vernon Davis will take some of the pressure off of him and Alex Smith as well.

Maxito
August-5th-2007, 04:49 PM
I'm worried about LJ, if Priest Homes makes the team, he might be splitting carries with LJ.

I would rank them
Alexander
Gore
LJ
Parker
Addai.

Maxito
August-5th-2007, 07:17 PM
so who did you end up taking.

TheREALJBird
August-5th-2007, 10:21 PM
Alexander has gotten bust written all over him this year, bank it 28. I just feel bad for whomever drafted him high:2cents:

the burgundy and gold
August-5th-2007, 10:27 PM
Larry Johnson all the way.

twenty-eight
August-5th-2007, 10:43 PM
My draft is still a couple weeks away.

I dont understand why so many of you are high on LJ

Maxito
August-5th-2007, 11:33 PM
Alexander has gotten bust written all over him this year, bank it 28. I just feel bad for whomever drafted him high:2cents:


Question why do you feel that Alexander is going to be a bust this year?

TheREALJBird
August-6th-2007, 12:31 PM
Question why do you feel that Alexander is going to be a bust this year?

Overall he just isn't all that great. That left side of the line paved the way for him with the combination of Jones and Hutchinson, but Seattle was too cheap to up the anty and Hutch is in Minny now. He was hurt last season, but even if he were healthy his numbers wouldn't have been that great in my opinion. Look for an un-stellar year with the overrated Shaun Alexander. I'll eat my words if need be, but I get the feeling that I won't have to. LT, Steven Jackson, Frank Gore, and if LJ gets settled will all have better seasons, and thats just out of the top fantasy projections, there will be several more with more production

twenty-eight
August-6th-2007, 02:00 PM
Fair enough....Now will someone explain to me why LJ is getting all this love? The man got over 400 carries last year!! His o-line is far from dominant. Questions about Priest Holmes. LJ is still a hold out. Teams are going to be putting 8 in the box all ****ing year
I just dont understand

:whoknows:

RedskinzOwnU
August-6th-2007, 04:51 PM
LJ is going to be a disaster. I didn't take him with the 5th pick and I probably wouldn't take him with the 8th either. The Chiefs have no vertical attack, they lost 2 of their best lineman,and LJ is currently holding out. He's going to have a very bad season - there are a lot of players that will be more productive. Take Gore or Alexander.

BoBoCTiberius
August-6th-2007, 08:31 PM
If LJ is on the field, he will get more carries than anyone in the league. And, with LJ, carries equal money.

taylorcoreskin
August-7th-2007, 12:38 AM
I'd say Shaun Alexander. He's still a touchdown machine. Gore has a busted hand and LJ doesn't have a passing game.

twenty-eight
August-7th-2007, 02:16 PM
Gore is only out 1-3 weeks....Doesnt seem to be a big deal

stoshuaj
August-7th-2007, 03:12 PM
I might touch Gore in a trophy or bragging rights lge where you can just swing away but in a $$ lge., he'd scare the bejeebus out of me. No doubting he's a helluva runner but he's had major surgery on each of his four extremities.

picks 3-9 are a s.w.a.g. imho but I think I'd go Addai, esp. if it's PPR. If it's not PPR, hell, I'd prob go w/Rudi. **be advised however, I have serious man-crush on Rudi as he's been on championship teams for me the last two years. just letting you know**

SkinsNut73
August-7th-2007, 03:44 PM
I understand what you are going through 28 - normally you would love to have the 3rd pick in the draft because it usually guarantees you a stud RB, but this year I only see LT and Steven Jackson as studs. The rest have question marks.

LJ - if he shows up, will most likely drop off in numbers - as someone else pointed out, history shows RB numbers take a dive in years following the heavy workload like LJ had.

Gore - has had injuries and does not have Norv Turner as his OC this year.

Alexander - as mentioned, the O-Line missed Hutch last year and he has to prove he has fully recovered from surgery.

Addai - promising future, but not worthy of a #3 pick

Parker - seems to be the safest option to me anyway.



I have the #5 pick in my draft, and I'm actually considering breaking my cardinal rule - never draft a QB before round 5 - and taking Peyton Manning. Passing TD's are rated the same as rushing TD's in my league, and Manning is money - never hurt and good for 30+ TD's and 4000 yds. I can't believe it, but that's what I'm leaning towards...

twenty-eight
August-7th-2007, 05:31 PM
picks 3-9 are a s.w.a.g. imho but I think I'd go Addai, esp. if it's PPR. If it's not PPR, hell, I'd prob go w/Rudi. **be advised however, I have serious man-crush on Rudi as he's been on championship teams for me the last two years. just letting you know**

I'm a huge fan of Rudi but he'll still be on the board at 8 or even later. He's very consistent but doesnt really have the upside to warrant a top three selection.




I have the #5 pick in my draft, and I'm actually considering breaking my cardinal rule - never draft a QB before round 5 - and taking Peyton Manning. Passing TD's are rated the same as rushing TD's in my league, and Manning is money - never hurt and good for 30+ TD's and 4000 yds. I can't believe it, but that's what I'm leaning towards...

Since passing td's and rushing td's are rated the same- you pretty much have to take manning. He should be taken second or third overall in that format.

If Tarik Glenn didnt retire I would have take addai for sure. Fast Willie does seem like the best option.....but Gore lead the NFC in rushing last season. You think Norv leaving hurts him that much?


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At this point, I know I'm definitely not taking Larry Johnson and probably not going to take Shaun Alexander

stoshuaj
August-8th-2007, 08:26 AM
**I'm a huge fan of Rudi but he'll still be on the board at 8 or even later. He's very consistent but doesnt really have the upside to warrant a top three selection.**

understand completely, but if I'm stuck picking at 3, knowing Rudi will be going around 8 doesn't help me much considering I don't pick again until 20+. hell, ADPs show FWP, SA, and Addai all flopping around 6,7,8. does that mean if I want any of them, I shouldn't take them @3 b/c that's not where they are valued by everyone else?

take who you want, when you can get them.

Ant15fromNJ
August-8th-2007, 09:56 AM
LJ might hold out into the season he seems not to care if he misses the season.

skinfan2k
August-8th-2007, 10:03 AM
do i take peyton even if my league is 6td per passing and -4 per int and -3 for fumbles losts

earl
August-8th-2007, 05:54 PM
alexander has been the most consistant back other then LT for the last 5 fantasy years or so. His only bad season was last year because of injury. before that he always played hurt, didn't really miss any games, is one of a few backs that doesn't split time and holmgrem's system is effective and consistant.

SkinsNut73
August-9th-2007, 09:28 AM
I'm a huge fan of Rudi but he'll still be on the board at 8 or even later. He's very consistent but doesnt really have the upside to warrant a top three selection.




Since passing td's and rushing td's are rated the same- you pretty much have to take manning. He should be taken second or third overall in that format.

If Tarik Glenn didnt retire I would have take addai for sure. Fast Willie does seem like the best option.....but Gore lead the NFC in rushing last season. You think Norv leaving hurts him that much?


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At this point, I know I'm definitely not taking Larry Johnson and probably not going to take Shaun Alexander


As for me taking Manning - you are right, he is valuable because the scoring in my league is equal for QB's and RB's. The reason people still lay off the QB's in our league is because it is a 14 team league. If I take Manning with the #5 pick, while everyone else is taking RB's, then you know what I'm left with when it wraps back around for my 2nd pick? I'll be looking at Ladell Betts as my top RB :)


I don't think Norv leaving will hurt Gore that much. I just mentioned it because it puts a question mark on Gore (for me anyways). If I'm picking in the top 5 I would like a guy with NO question marks...but this year is odd in that a lot of guys have questions marks. Other than LT or Steven Jackson, there is no one I feel comfortable with....

twenty-eight
August-9th-2007, 09:51 AM
Other than LT or Steven Jackson, there is no one I feel comfortable with....

Exactly thats what makes the third pick the toughest/worst.


Last season, I had the fourth or fifth overall pick. I narrowed it down to Steven Jackson and Ronnie Brown. I wanted jackson but changed my mind last minute and took Brown. We all know how that worked out. In the end though I ended up trading for Steven Jackson.

****. Gore? Addai? Alexander??


FYI- I think I was one year off with Ronnie. I'm hoping that he'll slip to the second round. In my other league I have the 10th pick, and i'll take brown with one of my first two picks

Koolblue13
August-9th-2007, 03:24 PM
The third pick sucks this year. I might want to take Addai, just because of his upside. Gore, to me atleast, needs one more year to prove he can take a season long beating. Losing your top RB during the POs sucks. I have no idea if the Seahawks O will bounch this year or not, but i've never had any faith in them.

LJ, if he plays, could break down, but I don't think so. I think the guy is special. 400+ carries, even behind a bad line, will give you some nice numbers.

1,400 and 14 ain't bad out of your #1. Three years in a row and now the Bengels O should be back on track for a full season and no great TE in the red zone. I am high on Johnson this year.

twenty-eight
August-9th-2007, 03:30 PM
My only knock on Rudi is the bengals lost Steinbach. I dont even know who they got to replace him...

twenty-eight
August-11th-2007, 04:03 PM
I've narrowed it down to Addai & Gore

twenty-eight
August-14th-2007, 02:11 PM
Alright. Im taking Gore...draft is till a couple weeks away

twenty-eight
August-27th-2007, 09:15 AM
So my draft is eight days away. I'm freaking out...I still dont know who to take..


Qb's get 5 points for a td- so now I'm considering manning....:confused:

HELP. I dont know who to take

SkinsNut73
August-27th-2007, 01:43 PM
Well, I'm considering Manning with the #5 pick in my draft and have been kicking that idea around for about 6 weeks now.

One suggestion: sit down and write out your own mock draft with you taking Manning. Carry it through to the 3rd or even 4th round to see what your options will be when your pick comes back around in the next few rounds.

I'm in a 14 team league and I did this taking Manning at #5. When the 2nd round rolled back to me, my top RB choices were Thomas Jones and Cedric Benson.

What sounds better to you - a Manning and Benson or Jones combo? Or a Gore and Brees or Bulger combo? It's really eye opening when you carry it out to 3 and 4 rounds and see the lack of depth.

twenty-eight
August-27th-2007, 01:57 PM
I'm able to start three runningbacks in this league.

Skinsnut, what is your complete roster?

praise_gibbs
August-27th-2007, 01:59 PM
I am clearly drafting Vick with my number 1 pick.


CHAMPIONSHIP!






I'd definitely take Gore, 28. I, myself, will definitely go: RB, RB, QB, WR, WR, QB (depending on what the others do.. I may pick up one WR before I pick QB.)

It is tough to decide between Manning and a running back with the third pick. I learned that mistake last year to pick Manning that high. If you have a competent RB on the board with your pick.. you have to choose them first. It would be crazy not to. IMO

SkinsNut73
August-27th-2007, 02:33 PM
I'm able to start three runningbacks in this league.

Skinsnut, what is your complete roster?

I haven't drafted yet, but I've done about a dozen mock drafts. My draft is this Sunday night. I think if you are able to start THREE RB's, then my first pick would definitely be an RB. I'd hold off on the QB and load up on the RB's...otherwise your 3rd starting RB will be a real scrub.




It is tough to decide between Manning and a running back with the third pick. I learned that mistake last year to pick Manning that high. If you have a competent RB on the board with your pick.. you have to choose them first. It would be crazy not to. IMO

That's the way I've always felt and why I'm so torn about taking Manning in the first round. Over the last few years I've had bad luck with RB's in the first round - either they were injured or were expected to be a top 10 RB, but failed to live up to expectations. Manning is as close to "money" as you can get - never misses a game (unless they have the division locked up) and is good for points every week.

Ugh!

praise_gibbs
August-27th-2007, 04:08 PM
I haven't drafted yet, but I've done about a dozen mock drafts. My draft is this Sunday night. I think if you are able to start THREE RB's, then my first pick would definitely be an RB. I'd hold off on the QB and load up on the RB's...otherwise your 3rd starting RB will be a real scrub.



I usually have one league where it is live draft. The others (currently 3 others) are autopick. Eventually, they all will be live draft. This years live draft is gonna be held on labor day.




That's the way I've always felt and why I'm so torn about taking Manning in the first round. Over the last few years I've had bad luck with RB's in the first round - either they were injured or were expected to be a top 10 RB, but failed to live up to expectations. Manning is as close to "money" as you can get - never misses a game (unless they have the division locked up) and is good for points every week.

Ugh!


With the 6th pick.. you might have to pick Manning. That is tough.

This is how I would rank the top RB's:

LT
Jackson
Gore
Alexander
Addai
LJ

You could argue that LJ will want to prove his worth after holding out for so long.. that he will have a good year. (If so, switch LJ and Addai) I just do not see Huard having a good year. So, the D can zero in on LJ and Gonzales.


Unless you are in an incompetent league.. it is safe to say that you are either deciding between Manning, LJ or Addai.


I wouldn't pick LJ for the reasons above. That would leave you with Addai or Manning. That is a tough choice...



Is your league snake format? Like the first person will pick last in the next round and the last person will pick first? That will continue on until the end of the draft?


If so, you should be able to get someone like Addai and then Westbrook followed by the best QB available..say Bulger? I think I would rather have that line-up then to pick Manning and then be stuck with WB and someone like Cadillac. You know what I mean?


I would def do a mock draft and try out different scenarios. Personally, I would take the best RB available with the 6th pick. Only because I always took Manning in the first round with a high pick and it just never worked out.

twenty-eight
August-28th-2007, 10:18 AM
Thanks for all the help guys. At this point I'm praying that I get CP on the come around in the third.