2001 Canes = Best College Team Ever

[Todd Packer]

heres the facts, you can try to counter them, but its just a waste of time on your part.....

12-0
Scored 512 points, thats about 42 ppg

allowed 117 about 9 papg

defeated 5 ranked opponents

held opponents to under 10 points in 8 of 12 games

Set the NCAA record for largest margin of victory over consecutive ranked teams 124-7


and, here are the notable nfl players to come out of the U ,that were on the 2001 squad....


clinton portis, najeh davenport, willis mcgahee, frank gore
andre johnson kellen winslow, jeremy shockey
vince wilfork, jonathon vilma, dj williams, bryant mckinney
ed reed, sean taylor, phillip buchanon, mike rumph, antrell rolle


in total they had 16 players drafted in the first rd alone that came out of that squad....
like i said, dont waste your time ttrying to dig up something that could top that team, cause its just not gonna happen

[TheREALJBird]

Well put good sir:cheers:...gotta say I wholeheartedly agree:D

[Spartacus87]

That team's probably one of my favorite national title teams ever, just so intimidating, almost the definition of Miami Swagger- the smoke entrance with the dark visors coming out to just dominate all the way to the title.

[Major Harris]

enter hokie4 to discuss the '99 hokies.

[TheREALJBird]

enter hokie4 to discuss the '99 hokies.

:laugh: I'll be looking forward to hearing that one

[jbooma]

Miami was great but they are not Nebraska:

1. Nebraska (1971)


Many consider the 1971 version of the Cornhuskers the best college football team ever, and we can't find any reason to disagree. The team averaged more than 39 points a game on offense, and surrendered only 8.2 points a game. Led by kick and punt returner par excellence Johnny Rodgers (who won the 1972 Heisman), the top-ranked Cornhuskers defeated No. 2 Oklahoma 35-31 on Thanksgiving Day, in what some have called the "Game of the Century." They rounded out their 13-0 season with a 38-6 drubbing of Alabama in the Orange Bowl.

2. USC (1972)


USC, coached by John McKay, finished the season 12-0 after blowing out Ohio State 42-17 in the Rose Bowl. In the process, the Trojans became the first team to be named No. 1 on every ballot of both the coaches and media polls. Keith Jackson, who's forgotten more about college football than we'll ever know, said the '72 Trojans were the best ever. He might be right, but we're giving Nebraska just a slight edge.

3. Nebraska (1995)


Combine a great offense -- 50-plus points per game -- with a great defense. Add a tough schedule, including four Top 10 teams, which the Cornhuskers trounced by no fewer than 23 points. Stir in Ahman Green and Lawrence Phillips for an incredible running attack. Presto. You've got a second straight national championship, topped by a 62-24 humiliation of second-ranked Florida in the Fiesta Bowl, and one of the best teams ever, in any sport.

4. Army (1945)


It was a very good year for Army. After teaming up with the other branches of the armed services (and the Allies) to win World War II, they then went on to a glorious fall campaign starring Mr. Inside and Mr. Outside, fullback Felix "Doc" Blanchard and tailback Glenn Davis. Blanchard, who ran for 718 yards and 19 TDs, won the Heisman in '45; Davis won it in '46. Army went 9-0, and was overwhelmingly dominant. In one game, they trounced Notre Dame, 48-0, in front of 75,000 at Yankee Stadium, then came back the next week to blow out the Pennsylvania Quakers, 61-0. In a game that decided the national title, Army beat its service rival, Navy, in their annual Philadelphia classic, 32-13, before 102,000 fans.

5. Miami (2001)


Miami went 12-0, with an average margin of victory of 34. A couple of reasons: All-American QB Ken Dorsey and running back Clinton Portis (who racked up 1,200 yards on the ground). A few more: offensive tackle Bryant "Mount" McKinnie, wide receiver Jeremy Shockey, cornerbacks Phillip Buchanon and Mike Rumph, and safety Edward Reed, all first-round selections in the 2002 NFL draft. "Offense, defense, special teams, this team is loaded," said 'Canes assistant coach Art Kehoe. "It's the best one I've ever seen, and I think we could line up and play with any college team that's ever been."

6. Michigan (1947)


Head coach Fritz Crisler let loose his "Mad Magicians" with one of the trickiest offenses in college football history. "For sheer deception, there had been nothing like the Magicians before," wrote Ivan Kaye in Michigan Today. "And there has been nothing like them since -- three men handling the ball was just an ordinary play. The plays that really gave them a kick were the ones where four or even five men handled the ball. It would wear out the spectators and drive defenses crazy."

As a result, Michigan, led by tailback Bob Chappius, wingback Chalmers "Bump" Elliott, QB Howard Yerges and fullback Jack Weisenburger, went 10-0 in 1947. While the Irish (see below) were named No. 1 by the AP at the end of the regular season, Michigan forced the voters to reconsider after crushing USC 49-0 in the Rose Bowl, and were ranked No. 1 in an unofficial postseason AP poll.

7. Notre Dame (1947)


The Irish won a disputed national title in '47 (see above), but what's not disputed is that the Irish were one of the best teams ever. They were led by three players who would eventually be named among the 100 best in college football history by College Football News: lineman Leon Hart, tackle George Connor and QB Johnny Lujack. Lujack won the '47 Heisman trophy, and in '49 Hart became one of only two lineman ever to win the Heisman. Notre Dame finished its undefeated season by trouncing USC 38-7 in front of 105,000 fans in the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum, and 41 of the Irish went on to play pro ball.

8. Oklahoma (1956)


At the end of the 20th century, this website named the '56 Sooners the eighth best team, of any sport, pro or college, ever. Here's why: Bud Wilkinson's 1956 squad was in the middle of a 47-game winning streak. They went 10-0, averaging about 47 points a game. The defense held six opponents scoreless. Running back Tommy McDonald finished third in the Heisman Trophy race, but even more impressive was the showing by Jerry Tubbs, who, as a lineman, finished fourth in the voting.

9. Oklahoma (1974)


The Sooners dominated college football in 1973 and 1974, going 21-0-1, so it wasn't easy to pick between the two squads. But we give the '74 squad the nod because it won its first national title under legendary coach Barry Switzer. Led by defensive end Lee Roy Selmon (the NFL's No. 1 pick in 1976), Dewey Selmon (an All-American noseguard), linebacker Rod Shoate (AP and UPI Defensive Player of the Year) and halfback Joe Washington (AP and UPI Offensive Player of the Year), the ground-based Sooners (they averaged 74 rushes a game, the most in Oklahoma history) twice won games by scores of 63-0, and also drubbed Utah State, 72-3.

10. Alabama (1961)


Bear Bryant was on his way to becoming an Alabama institution, and the Tide won their first national title under his leadership. They'd go on to win five more with Bear at the helm, but the first is always the sweetest. Alabama went 11-0 in 1961, racking up 297 points and allowing only 25. They were ranked first in the nation, and concluded their season with a 10-3 win over Arkansas in the Sugar Bowl.

Also receiving votes:


Notre Dame (1919, 1924, 1930, 1949, 1988)
Michigan (1941, 1948)
Oklahoma (1955, 2000)
USC (1932, 1962)
Army (1944)
Florida State (1999)
Florida (1996)
Minnesota (1940)
Ohio State (1968)
Pittsburgh (1976)
TCU (1938)
Texas (1969)

[rincewind]

That '95 Nebraska team was sick. Over 50ppg and beating 4 top 10 teams by minimum of 23. DAMN.

[Todd Packer]

miami had 16 first rd picks off that squad, and there numbers were very similar to the 71 huskers, its def a tough call, but IMO miami was the better team, because of how well they all played together, considering how many big egos were on that team

[hokie4redskins]

Yeah, well VT took that team to the brink that year. One dropped two-point conversion away from overtime with all the momentum and 60K screaming lunatics, including yours truly.

http://hokiestone.net/v/blockedkick.wmv

Miami barely escaped Blacksburg, and that was with Grant Noel throwing more interceptions than completions.

:doh:

Ask Clinton Portis.........

http://hokiestone.net/v/portis.wmv

But yeah, that team was sick.

[SkinsHokieFan]

That Miami 2001 team is the best team I have ever seen live

The first post says it all, the talent and dominance of that team was amazing

To think, we were a dropped 2 point conversion away in that game...

[canethang 305]

Well put good sir:cheers:...gotta say I wholeheartedly agree:D

I 2nd that.

[TheDoyler23]

That '95 Nebraska team was sick. Over 50ppg and beating 4 top 10 teams by minimum of 23. DAMN.

Everyone knew what they were going to do and they STILL could march down the field. Too bad the Option doesn't work in NCAA anymore, unless you're willing to make it deception oriented.

[mjah]

I seem to recall that the '01 Canes had to resort to some clever accounting to make it under the salary cap...

[Major Harris]

Everyone knew what they were going to do and they STILL could march down the field. Too bad the Option doesn't work in NCAA anymore, unless you're willing to make it deception oriented.
the option works. wv runs the option.

it's just that running the same ****ing option play over and over doesn't work.

[canethang 305]

the option works. wv runs the option.

it's just that running the same ****ing option play over and over doesn't work.

You guy's run the "spread option" which will most likely alway's work in college just like the " fun and gun" will alway's work. The option Nebraska ran was more of a wishbone with a fullback and wingback.

Ironic the '84 Nebraska team was supposed to be the greatest team ever with Irving Fryar and Turner Gill but then the learned speed kils in the Orange Bowl.

2001 'Canes would run circles around any college team ever.

[Major Harris]

You guy's run the "spread option" which will most likely alway's work in college just like the " fun and gun" will alway's work. The option Nebraska ran was more of a wishbone with a fullback and wingback.

Ironic the '84 Nebraska team was supposed to be the greatest team ever with Irving Fryar and Turner Gill but then the learned speed kils in the Orange Bowl.

2001 'Canes would run circles around any college team ever.
i know the difference. you can still run the option. doesn't navy?

it's just that you can't line up, tell the other team what you're doing, then do it. unless you're richrod.

[TheREALJBird]

i know the difference. you can still run the option. doesn't navy?

it's just that you can't line up, tell the other team what you're doing, then do it. unless you're richrod.

'01 Canes would light up Richrod's boys Maj :)

[Major Harris]

'01 Canes would light up Richrod's boys Maj :)

i try to live in the here and now. :)

i'd actually love to see our O against that D.

i'd hate to see that O against our D. :laugh:

[SkinsHokieFan]

i try to live in the here and now. :)

i'd actually love to see our O against that D.

i'd hate to see that O against our D. :laugh:

That D had the krypotinte of the WVU offense

In the words of RichRod a fast and strong d-line

If you got past that level, you have to deal with Jonathon Vilma. And if you got past the LB's you had to deal with Ed Reed :silly:

[Richmond Redskin]

Miami barely escaped Blacksburg, and that was with Grant Noel throwing more interceptions than completions.

Oh yes, there nothing like a quarterback throwing 4 picks and losing a fumble and to still make it a game. Grant Noel was the MVP for the 'Canes that day. That still was a crazy atmosphere for a regular season day game. We couldn't cover Shockey all day but KJ holiday (Kevin Jones) was put on the national scene that day. Miami games are usually pretty wild win or lose.

[Richmond Redskin]

That team's probably one of my favorite national title teams ever, just so intimidating, almost the definition of Miami Swagger- the smoke entrance with the dark visors coming out to just dominate all the way to the title.

Do you call yourself a true FSU fan?? You seminoles are supposed to hate the Hurricanes. I understand you can respect them and could be intrigued by that team but to say that they are one of your favorite national title teams ever after you havikng some championships of your own. Come on buddy, even if you used to be a Miami fan when you were younger and go to FSU now, you can't go around telling people things that could get you trouble down in Tallahassee. Sorry to give you a hard time but it's like Michigan fans saying the same thing about the 2002 Buckeyes. :doh:

[Major Harris]

That D had the krypotinte of the WVU offense

In the words of RichRod a fast and strong d-line

If you got past that level, you have to deal with Jonathon Vilma. And if you got past the LB's you had to deal with Ed Reed :silly:
i made no claim as to what would happen. it's all speculative. i just think it'd be fun to watch.

and we both know the 'eers offense is fun to watch, even if one of us won't admit it outside of personal emails. ;)

[Spartacus87]

Do you call yourself a true FSU fan?? You seminoles are supposed to hate the Hurricanes. I understand you can respect them and could be intrigued by that team but to say that they are one of your favorite national title teams ever after you havikng some championships of your own. Come on buddy, even if you used to be a Miami fan when you were younger and go to FSU now, you can't go around telling people things that could get you trouble down in Tallahassee. Sorry to give you a hard time but it's like Michigan fans saying the same thing about the 2002 Buckeyes. :doh: Good is good, why deny it? There's a time to take the blinders off regardless of whatever colors you're wearing and just give due props, and flat out that Miami team was sick.

FSU fans don't even hate Miami, or atleast the smart ones don't. Sure, Miami's our biggest rival after UF and I hate them during our games against each other, but as a whole there's no reason to dislike them that much. It's more of a healthy respect. Do I think they have a ridiculous proportion of bandwagon fans who I know never even went to Miami given it's an expensive private school these people couldn't afford and yet they still act like they did annoyingly enough? Sure, but it's not the same as redneck Gator fans jumping on the Tim Tebow train or acting like Joakim Noah's dancing was hilarious and fun. I have zero respect or tolerance for UF, that's totally different. Miami doesn't exemplify total lack of class, blind arrogance, and ignorance like UF does, especially within the past year. In fact, Miami and FSU's athletic departments get along pretty well and have a good relationship. UF's basically the red-headed step child of the big 3 Florida schools.

[SkinsHokieFan]

i made no claim as to what would happen. it's all speculative. i just think it'd be fun to watch.

and we both know the 'eers offense is fun to watch, even if one of us won't admit it outside of personal emails. ;)

Ha :laugh:

I love WVU's offense, I think the way RichRod runs it is great. I have never seen bigger holes in my life for a running back then I did for Slaton last year. In some cases nobody on the D was on the screen when he was running with it

With that being said however, that Miami D-line in 2001 was silly good, absolutly amazing. William Joseph, McDougle, with guys like Vilma behind them to clean up anything

But then again Kevin Jones did run for 160 yards against them in the December 2001 game, getting pitches on the option from Grant Noel :laugh:

[TheDoyler23]

the option works. wv runs the option.

it's just that running the same ****ing option play over and over doesn't work.

Yea, and its deception based. Its about hiding the ball and keeping 3 (and sometimes 4 depending on formation) dangerous outcomes possible on every play. As a Terps fan, I hate playing West Virginia because of that "schoolyard" offense. :laugh:

Nebraska could run the option so well, EVERYONE knew where it was going and what play was being run. The only way to stop them was to force a 3rd and long and maybe, MAYBE they would pass it...but probably not. :laugh:

[Major Harris]

Yea, and its deception based. Its about hiding the ball and keeping 3 (and sometimes 4 depending on formation) dangerous outcomes possible on every play. As a Terps fan, I hate playing West Virginia because of that "schoolyard" offense. :laugh:

Nebraska could run the option so well, EVERYONE knew where it was going and what play was being run. The only way to stop them was to force a 3rd and long and maybe, MAYBE they would pass it...but probably not. :laugh:

what sets wv's option apart from your standard options is that 2 guys have reads. it's not just the quarterback that is reading the defense and acting based off of that read. the rb's are making reads before they even get the ball.

[rincewind]

Yea, and its deception based. Its about hiding the ball and keeping 3 (and sometimes 4 depending on formation) dangerous outcomes possible on every play. As a Terps fan, I hate playing West Virginia because of that "schoolyard" offense. :laugh:

Nebraska could run the option so well, EVERYONE knew where it was going and what play was being run. The only way to stop them was to force a 3rd and long and maybe, MAYBE they would pass it...but probably not. :laugh:



The Tony Rice led ND option offense was the same way. But, I don't know if anybody ever ran it better than Tommy Frazier.

[canethang 305]

i know the difference. you can still run the option. doesn't navy?

it's just that you can't line up, tell the other team what you're doing, then do it. unless you're richrod.

I was just screwin with you a little, your right Navy does run a pretty good "standard option" but they have had a little trouble against teams with a lot of speed on D, except when they Had Eckel and I forget the QB.