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hokie4redskins
August-8th-2007, 12:28 PM
According to Mandel. This is about right. Four teams from the Big East as peasants, and WVU below VT as it should be.

:laugh:

One MNC and VT will be a king.



Kings

Alabama, Florida, Florida State, Miami, Michigan, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Penn State, Tennessee*, Texas and USC.

* Tennessee is the lone school in the group that caused any hesitation. The Vols would have been a no-brainer 10 years ago, but they have fallen off the map a bit lately. In the end, I figured those 100 fans in Idaho still know "Rocky Top," the checkered end zones and that Peyton Manning went there.

Barons

Auburn, Clemson, Colorado, Georgia, LSU*, Texas A&M, UCLA, Virginia Tech, Washington and Wisconsin.

* While LSU is clearly a premier program right now, its big-picture tradition does not match those of the 13 kings. However, if the Tigers were to add another national title here in the next couple of years, they may well graduate to that group.

Knights

Arizona State, Arkansas, Boston College, Cal, Georgia Tech, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas State, Maryland, Michigan State, Missouri, N.C. State, Oklahoma State, Ole Miss, Oregon, Oregon State, Pittsburgh, Purdue, Stanford, Syracuse*, South Carolina, Texas Tech, Virginia, West Virginia and Washington State.

* In normal times, Syracuse would qualify as one of the barons, but they're just so darn bad and so irrelevant right now.

Peasants

Arizona, Baylor, Cincinnati, Connecticut, Duke, Minnesota, Indiana, Iowa State, Kansas, Kentucky, Mississippi State, North Carolina, Northwestern, Rutgers*, South Florida*, Wake Forest and Vanderbilt.

* Rutgers is another program that could be on its way up a tier, and South Florida is here by default because it's essentially a start-up.

There is one school intentionally missing from the list, and that's because I have no idea where to put it: Louisville. History-wise, the Cardinals are peasants, but the program has completely reinvented itself over the past decade and now gets mentioned with the kings and barons. For now, we'll just say: TBD.

Already anticipating what may be my biggest barrage of hate mail yet, all I ask is that you spare me any lists of all-time winning percentages, bowl wins, conference titles and whatnot. Remember -- being called a "powerhouse" is more about public perception than it is reality. Better yet, just apply the Montana test.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/stewart_mandel/08/08/cfb.bag/index.html

SkinsHokieFan
August-8th-2007, 12:44 PM
About where I would put us. Enough to be considered in that 2nd tier in the pecking order, and close to the top tier, but it won't happen without a national ttile

EersSkins05
August-8th-2007, 01:52 PM
Stewart Mandel's opinion on historical prestige...

:yawnee:

Wake me up when we're talking about this season.

hokie4redskins
August-8th-2007, 02:27 PM
Sounds like somebody's upset WVU is considered lower echelon. I don't see 'eers criticizing Mandel when he's schlobbin' on Slaton's knob.

PleaseBlitz
August-8th-2007, 02:55 PM
Sounds like somebody's upset WVU is considered lower echelon. I don't see 'eers criticizing Mandel when he's schlobbin' on Slaton's knob.

Meh, one more year similar to recent history and WVU will be right up there.

Major Harris
August-8th-2007, 02:59 PM
it's amazing what hokie4 buys and what he sells. you are such a hypcrite.

hokie4redskins
August-8th-2007, 03:03 PM
it's amazing what hokie4 buys and what he sells. you are such a hypcrite.

What's a "hypcrite"?

:whoknows:

hokie4redskins
August-8th-2007, 03:16 PM
Meh, one more year similar to recent history and WVU will be right up there.

You mean like taking Rutgers to double overtime and dropping one to perennial power South Florida, at home no less? He doesn't even know what to do with Louisville. Man, that Big East conference is something else.

:laugh:

EersSkins05
August-8th-2007, 03:24 PM
My point was that talking about glory past sounds like something a Notre Dame fan would do.

I don't care what they did in 1960. They haven't won a bowl game since I was in high school. lol

You mean like taking Rutgers to double overtime and dropping one to perennial power South Florida, at home no less? He doesn't even know what to do with Louisville. Man, that Big East conference is something else.

:laugh:

You're right. Many of the programs in the Big East have only recently started to outrank the Hokies in rankings.

:laugh: