The one player you wished we signed this offseason?

[morpheusmeyers]

It's a close call for me between David Carr and Leonard Davis.

Davis would have really filled a void for us at LG. But he was awfully expensive so I'm not too torn up over not getting him...though I wish he hadn't signed with Big D.

I'm surprised that we didn't make a play on the Carr, since we have a bad case of geezer-itis at the 2 and 3 QB positions. He would have given us a good, reliable backup and spot starter for years to come.

Thoughts?

[fdarugar]

Derrick Dockery.

[redskns21]

I too wish we could have resigned Dockery but not at the price the Bills paid.

[BLEED-B&G]

Derrick Dockery.

Amen

[Chump Bailey]

I was kinda hoping Jordan Black would have been considered. Although I like Heyer, Black would have been a welcome sight IMO as he can play G and T.

Adalius Thomas would have looked nice in the B&G too...

[Zen-like Todd]

Nobody, really. The Smoot and Fletcher moves were great. Dockery and Davis were unaffordable. If you want to sign Dockery, you go back in time two years and sign him to a 5 year 12 million dollar deal. Of course we're not all that bright.

[fdarugar]

Nobody, really. The Smoot and Fletcher moves were great. Dockery and Davis were unaffordable. If you want to sign Dockery, you go back in time two years and sign him to a 5 year 12 million dollar deal. Of course we're not all that bright.

Hey man, he said "wish".

I also wouldn't mind having Thomas and Samuel.

[bowhunter]

Oh c'mon y'all, Dock is a better than average guard getting paid the money of a perinneal pro bowler. Good? yes. Great? not on your life. This is not a case of us refusing to pay our guys to re-sign. If you get Dock, are you willing to give up on Cooley and ST? 'Cuz thats what its gonna cost

[C26 Run]

Dockery. :helmet:

[DieselPwr44]

Chris Cooley

[Supreme Wu]

Chris Cooley

Yes, this one. We will be in a bidding war after this season (I think it's his contract year)


Dockerys price was WAYYYY too high. Frankly I'd have been angry if they paid that much.

[SkinsTerps26]

Randy Moss
Adaleus Thomas

[Portis N Pals]

Calvin Johnson ;)

[Warhead36]

Peyton Manning...? :laugh:

[shallyshal]

keenan mccardell

edwin mulitalo

[Pedro]

Me to a 1m signing bonus 'cos I'm skint.

[MEANDWARF]

Sign? With what? Our looks?

[braindx]

Chris Cooley

Agreed. Give the man his money!

[the burgundy and gold]

haha Simeon Rice anyone??

just kidding i wish we woulda gotten Calvin Johnson. That would have been sweet.

[isle-hawg]

Chris Cooley

Me too!


I too wish we could have resigned Dockery but not at the price the Bills paid.

See above, that is why he shoud've been signed by our FO already. You think Dock got stupid money wait and see what happens should the FO **** up and let Cooley become a FA.

[Yeen80]

It's a close call for me between David Carr and Leonard Davis.

Davis would have really filled a void for us at LG. But he was awfully expensive so I'm not too torn up over not getting him...though I wish he hadn't signed with Big D.

I'm surprised that we didn't make a play on the Carr, since we have a bad case of geezer-itis at the 2 and 3 QB positions. He would have given us a good, reliable backup and spot starter for years to come.

Thoughts?

DUANTE CULPEPPER.

Without question

[Birdlives]

No one....

[Zazzaro703]

Nobody, really. The Smoot and Fletcher moves were great. Dockery and Davis were unaffordable. If you want to sign Dockery, you go back in time two years and sign him to a 5 year 12 million dollar deal. Of course we're not all that bright.

If we are going back in time i still wish we signed Adam Vinatieri last offseason. This year i think we did rather well.

[kevin11]

IF cooley isnt signed, i will bad mouth our FA forever. But, i think we will be signed, I just hope he doesnt get greedy and ask for a 50 mil contract.

[Wyvern]

Gosh there were so many I'd hoped we'd try for -- here's the list of free agents alone. Then you toss in all the tradeable players...

At OG: either Cooper Carlisle (Broncos), Kris Dielman (Chargers), or Ruben Brown (Bears)
At DE: either Bobby McCray (Jaguars), DeWayne White (Bucs), Robert Geathers (Bengals), or maybe Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila (Packers)
At DT: Ian Scott (Bears)
At WR: Kevin Curtis (Rams), Eric Moulds (Texans)
At CB: Nate Clements (Bills)
At QB: Matt Schaub (Falcons)

I would like liked to find a decent OG, a DE, and a younger QB. If I can only select one -- it would be Kris Dielman who evntually re-signed with San Diego.

[Santana_Fan]

I'm just happy with us signing Laron, I was all for it ever since the 07' draft started.

[MEANDWARF]

Gosh there were so many I'd hoped we'd try for -- here's the list of free agents alone. Then you toss in all the tradeable players...

At OG: either Cooper Carlisle (Broncos), Kris Dielman (Chargers), or Ruben Brown (Bears)
At DE: either Bobby McCray (Jaguars), DeWayne White (Bucs), Robert Geathers (Bengals), or maybe Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila (Packers)
At DT: Ian Scott (Bears)
At WR: Kevin Curtis (Rams), Eric Moulds (Texans)
At CB: Nate Clements (Bills)
At QB: Matt Schaub (Falcons)

I would like liked to find a decent OG, a DE, and a younger QB. If I can only select one -- it would be Kris Dielman who evntually re-signed with San Diego.




What "Salary-Cap Heaven" do you come from?

[Touchdown Redskins]

Definitely any guard on the market would have been nice. I'm worried about our O-line depth. I think we have about 2 more years with the current line before we have to overhaul, and I think we should use a bunch of draft picks on it in the coming draft. Dielman would have been spectacular, but I doubt he'd come to play for the Skins since he had the chance to play for the Chargers.

[SonOfWashington]

Todd Pinkston, Kyle Busch

wait..

[SkinsNoles21]

whats sweet is, most of our guys are locked up for at least the next few years.

Get Cooley and St taken care of and we are really straight.

[mi6]

Randy Moss...


The Moss combo would have been a great tandem.

[SkinsFanMania]

Derrick Dockery.

Yes, Dockery would be very nice to have, but 49 M is much to much to pay for Dockery. He looked horrible in last weeks preseason game and I'm thinking he was decent because of Samuel's and Rabach.

[dblE]

A big and fast WR. Steve Smith from USC or Ted Ginn JR. You said wish...these guys would have been a good fit.

[mistertim]

Wasn't Jeff George available? :laugh:

I'm pretty much satisfied with what we did this offseason. Having Dock back would have been nice but both he and Leonard Davis got paid wayyy above their talent levels. Dock was a decent guard, but he isn't a 3 time All Pro or anything. Davis is basically an underachieving fatty. He never even got close to living up to his draft position (#2 overall pick in 2001); I'd actually call that a bust...and the Girls gave him a huge contract. I would have loved to have Nate Clements, but I'm glad we didn't spend the money on him that he got in his contract with the Niners. Lots of people wanted Adalius Thomas, but honestly I think Fletcher was a better fit for our D and he cost quite a bit less too. Don't get me wrong, Thomas is a great player. However, what we needed was a true MLB with experience and smarts and that is exactly what we got. Sure he is on the older side, but after watching him play the last couple of weeks I'd be surprised if he didn't have at least a couple more years of high level football left in him.

I'm glad we didn't spend a ridiculous amount on FAs this offseason. Save that money to lock Cooley and eventually Taylor in for many years to come. Hopefully the Skins FO is finally learning it's lesson and will do just that.

[terpfan]

Calvin Johnson ;)
I know! I can't believe we passed him up! :rolleyes: :laugh:

[JRAB]

It's a close call for me between David Carr and Leonard Davis.

Davis would have really filled a void for us at LG. But he was awfully expensive so I'm not too torn up over not getting him...though I wish he hadn't signed with Big D.

I'm surprised that we didn't make a play on the Carr, since we have a bad case of geezer-itis at the 2 and 3 QB positions. He would have given us a good, reliable backup and spot starter for years to come.

Thoughts?


I'm with you on Davis. He's is a monster at Guard. Him next to Samuels would have been sweet. He's opening holes as big as a car for Dallas, and I'm as upset that they have him as I am that we didn't get him.

Reality is though, we just couldn't afford him. That's why I get so pissed thinking about the Arch, Lloyd, etc. moves that put us in a salary cap hole to begin with.

You said wish though so I wish Davis.

Two close other's would be Adalius Thomas... I think Gregg Williams could do great things with him, and Randy Moss. He's a long way from being done in this league and for what they paid for him, I would have jumped at a WR talent like him. You want a red zone threat? Moss woulda done it. Plus, I like the sound of having Moss and Moss at WR.

I do like Fletcher, Smoot, Stoutmire, etc. though and think they'll help us this year. I just think those other 3 guys are in a different stratosphere though.

Edit: I forgot about Clements at CB. He would've been real nice to have as well. He'd be fourth though behind Davis, Thomas and Moss.

[theTruthTeller]

whats sweet is, most of our guys are locked up for at least the next few years.

Get Cooley and St taken care of and we are really straight.
the "locked up" part is largely illusory because of the contract escalations in the contracts that make it doubtful that they will be (or can be) continued for the next season. Samuels gets a $2M raise next year - likely that will be honored. Portis gets a $4.9 raise to 8.8M in 2008 and another $1M in 2009. Probably not. Jansen gets $8.8M next year -goodbye. Randy Thomas gets $8.7M - ouch. $2.5M raise for Moss - more pain. Here's two that should make everyone happy - Lloyd and ARE each get about $2M more for their record breaking work. Pony up another $2.5M for Carter and another $1M for Wade. $2M for Betts.

You can see where this is going - a lot of starters who are "locked up" will need to be cut or have their contracts renegotiated.

Ironically, Sean Taylor takes a pay cut next year. That should make him happy while Shawn Springs is cashing his $7M check.

And they need to re-sign Cooley or get rid of their go-to guy.

[JRAB]

the "locked up" part is largely illusory because of the contract escalations in the contracts that make it doubtful that they will be (or can be) continued for the next season. Samuels gets a $2M raise next year - likely that will be honored. Portis gets a $4.9 raise to 8.8M in 2008 and another $1M in 2009. Probably not. Jansen gets $8.8M next year -goodbye. Randy Thomas gets $8.7M - ouch. $2.5M raise for Moss - more pain. Here's two that should make everyone happy - Lloyd and ARE each get about $2M more for their record breaking work. Pony up another $2.5M for Carter and another $1M for Wade. $2M for Betts.

You can see where this is going - a lot of starters who are "locked up" will need to be cut or have their contracts renegotiated.

Ironically, Sean Taylor takes a pay cut next year. That should make him happy while Shawn Springs is cashing his $7M check.

And they need to re-sign Cooley or get rid of their go-to guy.

Wow. You really live up to your name.

We are definately NOT in good shape with the cap. We have to hit on some cheap later round types or we're going to be in a world of hurt.

We had better had knocked one out of the park on Campbell too, or we will be screwed.

[Morneblade]

Jamaal Anderson

Eric Moulds

:D

[LoudMouth12thMan]

It's a close call for me between David Carr and Leonard Davis.

Davis would have really filled a void for us at LG. But he was awfully expensive so I'm not too torn up over not getting him...though I wish he hadn't signed with Big D.

I'm surprised that we didn't make a play on the Carr, since we have a bad case of geezer-itis at the 2 and 3 QB positions. He would have given us a good, reliable backup and spot starter for years to come.

Thoughts?
http://shsdemo.stats.com/fb/playerstats.asp?id=5449&team=22

I'm gonna pass on a guy who gave up 8 sacks and had 9 false starts. As far as Carr is concerned, we didn't need him and he has more INT's than career TD's. That ain't too good IMO. I would've liked to have signed Dock back and maybe got Clements. I'm actually pretty excited about who we have now, so I guess really nobody but Dock. I agree with you that a younger qb would've been nice but not necessary right now.
HTTR

[CM916]

Fred Smoot... oh wait, we signed him! :point2sky


He was pretty much the only free agent that kept me lurking around here every hour of every day from the first rumors until we locked him up.

I could care less about bumb QBs and overpriced replacements for positions we already have filled.

[TheGuru10]

Dwight Freeney. I'd have given up 2 first rounders for him. His speed on the edge would have made this the best defense in the NFC.

[theTruthTeller]

Wow. You really live up to your name.

We are definately NOT in good shape with the cap. We have to hit on some cheap later round types or we're going to be in a world of hurt.

We had better had knocked one out of the park on Campbell too, or we will be screwed.
Most teams have escalating contracts with stars - it gives them a big sounding contract, the team gets to spread out the bonus over a long term, and the big salaries at the end of the contract will never be paid. The problem here is that (1) so many seem to be escalating at the same time and (2) they are at positions where there no one is waiting in the wings. Unless they put up extraordinary numbers, I can't see keeping either ARE or Lloyd for $4M; and I don't think the offense is designed to get big numbers for either position. Jansen looks to be a $5M roster bonus in 2008, and I don't see how that gets paid, but they don't have any depth at that position if Wade is the LG.

People talk about how Dockery wasn't worth the $49M/7yr contract - but I assume a lot of that is salary at the end of the contract. The only information I could find was 18M bonus, $23M payments in first three years - which I assume includes the signing bonus. Thus, spreading the bonus over 7 years, Dockery is making about $4.5M/year (I did this in my head) for the first three years. I don't think this is outrageous. If the Skins had moved for a new contract last year, they could have gotten him for less.

[elkabong82]

Nate Clements

[Santana_89]

I'm pretty damn happy with the team we have NOW.Of course having Dock re-sign would have been excellent but I'm VERY glad we didn't pony up the money Buffalo did.


I'm glad we signed London Fletcher,LaRon"Mama Said Knock You Out" Landry,HB Blades,Fred Smoot,Omar Stoutmire.I'm happy we didn't trade Shawn Springs.I'm just excited about what I've seen so far defensively.Hopefully the offense will pick up the pace in the coming weeks before the season starts.


If we can continue to avoid serious injury,and extend Taylor and Cooley asap then al will be well in D.C at least with me.

[brianforster]

the "locked up" part is largely illusory...


Most teams have escalating contracts with stars...

http://www.azcentral.com/ent/pop/pics/0302downer-autosized141.jpg

[RenegadeTK]

i wish there was a way we couldve inked Andre Johnson. he could be the most underrated WR in terms of production. and his size would have been key in the red zone. plus hes already tight with santana, portis and taylor.... it would have been nice

[s0crates]

Ben Grubbs.

[GIBBS LIVES]

Dockery.

Because the trickle down effect to the rest of the line is what got Campbell almost killed out there.

[snafu]

Tank:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[IrepDC]

Tank Johnson...

[blchizzleke]

the original poster said he would have liked to see us sign david carr...though i agree we need youth at qb, carr is a former number 1 overall pick and that would have caused controversy and there would have been a qb controversy story storming every day at camp, even if JC would have been the unquestioned starter by the coaches which would have messed with JC's psyche

[IrepDC]

Tank Johnson...

[illone]

Derrick Dockery.

Only, I wish we had extended him before "payday 2007".

[Area51]

Wow. You really live up to your name.

We are definately NOT in good shape with the cap. We have to hit on some cheap later round types or we're going to be in a world of hurt.

We had better had knocked one out of the park on Campbell too, or we will be screwed.

I can't believe that Skins fans still doubt the power of the Snyder and his cap gurus.

As for the topic, on offense I would say Randy Moss and on D it would be Nate Clements. Moss brothers on O would be ridiculous.

What I really keep thinking about is the '06 offseason though. I would have definitely done it entirely differently(and not looking back with hindsight). First, I would've traded our 2nd and 4th for Javon Walker. Kept LaVar or signed Julian Peterson. Re-sign Derrick Dockery and NOT let him play on the one year RFA tender. I would've still let Clark go(he was NOT a good player people) and picked up Chris Hope. For CB depth I'd sign Andre /Kevin Dyson(the CB not receiver). The only FA I would've signed that we actually did sign is Andre Carter.

This 'fantasy gm' business is fun. Damn I wanna be a gm! :laugh:

[DIRTYBIRDROCKS]

Vick , but keep dreaming, he still belongs to us

[GroundNPound]

This offseason's FA market was a little thin. This is why you saw so many players getting over payed. We actually got a couple of the best players available at their positions without burning a hole in our pockets... not a common occurance in the last decade for a skins off-season.

[Potato Sack]

Jeff George

[FootballGuy2677]

Gosh there were so many I'd hoped we'd try for -- here's the list of free agents alone. Then you toss in all the tradeable players...

At OG: either Cooper Carlisle (Broncos), Kris Dielman (Chargers), or Ruben Brown (Bears)
At DE: either Bobby McCray (Jaguars), DeWayne White (Bucs), Robert Geathers (Bengals), or maybe Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila (Packers)
At DT: Ian Scott (Bears)
At WR: Kevin Curtis (Rams), Eric Moulds (Texans)
At CB: Nate Clements (Bills)
At QB: Matt Schaub (Falcons)

I would like liked to find a decent OG, a DE, and a younger QB. If I can only select one -- it would be Kris Dielman who evntually re-signed with San Diego.

Why are we signing half those players....?

[Zen-like Todd]

Vick , but keep dreaming, he still belongs to us


Just think, you could have turned that pick into Ladanian Tomlinson and Philip Rivers. :laugh:

[SkinsTerps26]

Andre Johnson is a bonafied #1 receiver. I was hoping he would hit the market but he ended up re-signing with the Texans.

I was liking the idea of another player from the U on our roster.

The Washington Hurricanes.

P.S. Is 4 starters from miami the most any NFL team has? I know the Ravens have 3.

[TheTotalPackage]

Calvin Johnson....without giving up LL or any of our other core players.

Randy Moss.

Dockery.

Kris Jenkins

Any DE on the market

[dblE]

I know! I can't believe we passed him up! :rolleyes: :laugh:

We didn't pass on him, I'm sure if he'd been available we would have picked him. Calvin Johnson was picked 2nd.

[Schoolmaster]

It's a close call for me between David Carr and Leonard Davis.

Davis would have really filled a void for us at LG. But he was awfully expensive so I'm not too torn up over not getting him...though I wish he hadn't signed with Big D.

I'm surprised that we didn't make a play on the Carr, since we have a bad case of geezer-itis at the 2 and 3 QB positions. He would have given us a good, reliable backup and spot starter for years to come.

Thoughts?

David Carr? I think the QBs we have in camp are just fine. As much as I want to bash Brunell - he knows how to take care of his body - he's healthy right now, and when he's healthy - he is still one of the most dangerous QBs in the league.... you'd better not sleep on Brunell. Campbell is a weapon... developing slowly.... but he is going to be a beast. Todd Collins is solid.... not spectacular, but solid. I like our stable of QBs. David Carr hasn't proved anything to me - and he doesn't know Saunder's playbook.

The Skins need big, strong, O-Linemen with good footwork, and an attitude. Their defense is going to be OK this year. Mcintosh, Golston, Fletcher, Springs, Rogers, Smoot, Landry, Washington, .... man... the Skins are going to have 3-4 guys in the Pro Bowl this year from the defense.

[DaveP666]

Erm... Lavar?

[FeaturePresentation]

Since I can't start any new threads, I say we push for signing WR Reggie Williams of the Jaguars. He's not on the best terms with the club right now and he's a pretty good talent.

[cuchip703]

Dwight Freeney. I'd have given up 2 first rounders for him. His speed on the edge would have made this the best defense in the NFC.

You would fit in nicely with our FO...why not throw in Betts with the two picks.

[SkinsTerps26]

Since I can't start any new threads, I say we push for signing WR Reggie Williams of the Jaguars. He's not on the best terms with the club right now and he's a pretty good talent.

he did burn us pretty well during that game last year. He has a lot of potential despite his injury. I like that he is 6'4 and runs a solid 4.5 as a possession receiver. If its possible without a trade it be great opportunity.

[onnie007]

Dockery....but I understand because he was too expensive.

[dallasfan]

Ironically, Sean Taylor takes a pay cut next year.

Sean Taylor is going to make a fuss out of his contract after this season. I remember when he signed his rookie deal, it was a horrible deal, and he fired his agent, hired Rosenthal, and talked about he was going to play hard, and hopefully re-do his deal in a few years. I think his whole legal troubles through him off a bit, but I think he'll definately make a fuss next season.

For example Newman signed a 7 year, 20 million dollar deal in 03', Taylor signed a 7 year 18 million dollar deal in 04'. Winslow who was picked after Taylor, signed a 6 year 29 million dollar deal (max of 40 mil, but even the base value was an above market deal). I couldn't find Roy Williams deal, who was picked after Winslow.

But in 05' Cadillac signed a 5 year 31 million dollar deal

[umstew42]

solid depth would have been nice through the draft, but the past is the past. All we can do is cheer our brains out for the group we have here and build the foundation for a solid couple of years.

Here's hoping we hold on to our current 08 draft picks and use them to turn a corner with this franchise.

[skinsaddict]

ANY receiver over 6'2''

[The Rook]

Just think, you could have turned that pick into Ladanian Tomlinson and Philip Rivers. :laugh:

Dog-gone right! :laugh:







:helmet: The Rook

[Drunken Master III]

Drew Bennett

[Gator Bait]

[QUOTE=Schoolmaster]and when he's healthy - he is still one of the most dangerous QBs in the league.... you'd better not sleep on Brunell. QUOTE]


I don't know what you are smokin, but this statement hasn't been true about Brunell in quite some time now.....at lest 4 years, probably more like 5 or 6 years ago this may be correct.

[BigMike619]

i think we should try to draft BigMike619. I heard he is a beast.

[McMetal]

The O-lineman the Ravens picked up in the supplemental draft...Gaither. (?)

[CallMeGreen]

The O-lineman the Ravens picked up in the supplemental draft...Gaither. (?)
:cheers:
Good call. I was thinking Jared Gaither was a very safe "steal" for only a 5th rounder from next year. We would've picked before Baltimore and everyone had them selecting him in the supplemental 5th round. He certainly could be our "Dockery-in-training" replacement, if nothing else.

Only two questions about that:
a) Is there a "gentlemen's agreement" not to poach supplemental picks from other teams? Probably not.

and more importantly,
b) Do the Skins even have an '08 5th with which they could have used to get this guy?

[LB Dizzle]

Jared Gaither - would have only costed us a 5th round pick in the supplemental draft and he is said to look good over in B-more. Even though we already have two quality starting tackles, he would have provided great depth and possible replacement down the road a couple years.

[ArmchairRedskin]

I wish we would have re-signed Cooley already.

Let me tell you something, I kind of brushed off the fact that we let Bailey, Pierce, Smoot, Clark and Dockery go. I accepted the explanations at the time in each case.

All those guys have turned out to be mistakes so far. If we don't re-sign Cooley I will officially be pissed at our FO. I'm not one to bash our team operations, but in this case I can't react any other way. He's a guy we moved up in the draft for and he's performed above and beyond expectations. There is absolutely no excuse not to get his deal done. If by any chance we've strapped ourselves for next year with our cap situation, then I suggest we reevaluate the way we negotiate contracts in the future. You absolutely have to re-sign this player to maintain any level of respect from those of us who have been giving you the benefit of the doubt on all these players.

[gkekoa]

Drew Bennett. He has proven to be a number one but is now a good possession receiver and huge red zone target.

[McD5]

Calvin Johnson

[deejaydana]

NONE! Play the hand you have. We have done perfectly well this offseason and (out of character for us) not mortgaged next year's draft in the process.

[AJWatson3]

Dockery. We'd be feeling a lot better about our OL and running game going into the season.

[Chump Bailey]

Drew Bennett. He has proven to be a number one but is now a good possession receiver and huge red zone target.


Drew would have been nice I agree...

[morpheusmeyers]

"he is still one of the most dangerous QBs in the league.... you'd better not sleep on Brunell."

And I thought yesterday was Bizarro World here as ES!

[mcarey032]

Yeah I wish that we had dockery back, but oh well. If Dock, then I would have to go with Randy Moss. Why not? I mean the Pats gave up a fourth round pick for him. It would be interesting to see how he would do in the Redskins locker room. Would he tear the locker room apart or would he fit in? That would be my vote.

[pjfootballer]

Wasn't Jeff George available? :laugh:

I'm pretty much satisfied with what we did this offseason. Having Dock back would have been nice but both he and Leonard Davis got paid wayyy above their talent levels. Dock was a decent guard, but he isn't a 3 time All Pro or anything. Davis is basically an underachieving fatty. He never even got close to living up to his draft position (#2 overall pick in 2001); I'd actually call that a bust...and the Girls gave him a huge contract. I would have loved to have Nate Clements, but I'm glad we didn't spend the money on him that he got in his contract with the Niners. Lots of people wanted Adalius Thomas, but honestly I think Fletcher was a better fit for our D and he cost quite a bit less too. Don't get me wrong, Thomas is a great player. However, what we needed was a true MLB with experience and smarts and that is exactly what we got. Sure he is on the older side, but after watching him play the last couple of weeks I'd be surprised if he didn't have at least a couple more years of high level football left in him.

I'm glad we didn't spend a ridiculous amount on FAs this offseason. Save that money to lock Cooley and eventually Taylor in for many years to come. Hopefully the Skins FO is finally learning it's lesson and will do just that.

How dare you spout off intelligence? :laugh: Good Post. Also, like a previous poster said, if we had've resigned Dock to the money he got, we may not have been able to lock up Cooley or other FA's after this year.

[pjfootballer]

the "locked up" part is largely illusory because of the contract escalations in the contracts that make it doubtful that they will be (or can be) continued for the next season. Samuels gets a $2M raise next year - likely that will be honored. Portis gets a $4.9 raise to 8.8M in 2008 and another $1M in 2009. Probably not. Jansen gets $8.8M next year -goodbye. Randy Thomas gets $8.7M - ouch. $2.5M raise for Moss - more pain. Here's two that should make everyone happy - Lloyd and ARE each get about $2M more for their record breaking work. Pony up another $2.5M for Carter and another $1M for Wade. $2M for Betts.

You can see where this is going - a lot of starters who are "locked up" will need to be cut or have their contracts renegotiated.

Ironically, Sean Taylor takes a pay cut next year. That should make him happy while Shawn Springs is cashing his $7M check.

And they need to re-sign Cooley or get rid of their go-to guy.

That sounds scary. But Springs won't see Redskins park in 2008.

[Sec325]

not this season, next Alan Faneca for LG

[Diesel70ChipOnWhite]

Randall Godfrey..... :wavetowel

[pjfootballer]

Vick , but keep dreaming, he still belongs to us

Silly Retarded Bird. Trolling gets you nowhere. Oh and by the way, is Rivers and Tomlinson starting in your backfield this year. :doh:

[pjfootballer]

Sean Taylor is going to make a fuss out of his contract after this season. I remember when he signed his rookie deal, it was a horrible deal, and he fired his agent, hired Rosenthal, and talked about he was going to play hard, and hopefully re-do his deal in a few years. I think his whole legal troubles through him off a bit, but I think he'll definately make a fuss next season.

For example Newman signed a 7 year, 20 million dollar deal in 03', Taylor signed a 7 year 18 million dollar deal in 04'. Winslow who was picked after Taylor, signed a 6 year 29 million dollar deal (max of 40 mil, but even the base value was an above market deal). I couldn't find Roy Williams deal, who was picked after Winslow.

But in 05' Cadillac signed a 5 year 31 million dollar deal

Sometimes it's not about total dollars, but actual dollars received and Taylor is on par with total dollars received.

[CGSKINS]

RANDY MOSS!!!!!!!!!!!. This guy would put this team over the top. We would win 13 games with this guy on our team.

[panel]

i think we should try to draft BigMike619. I heard he is a beast.
Really, I heard he lacks a work ethic and is a locker room cancer!

[CGSKINS]

Pacman Jones.:laugh:

[theTruthTeller]

RANDY MOSS!!!!!!!!!!!. This guy would put this team over the top. We would win 13 games with this guy on our team.
It would have cost a fourth round pick. Who do you think this guy is - Brandon Lloyd?

[umstew42]

Pacman Jones.:laugh:


screw pacman, why not get triple H or brock lesnar then (I heard he wants to play some ball anyways:laugh: )

[CGSKINS]

ANY receiver over 6'2'' You aint lying.

[CGSKINS]

screw pacman, why not get triple H or brock lesnar then (I heard he wants to play some ball anyways:laugh: ):laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Gart Monk]

TJ Duckett

Imagine TJ running behind Mike Sellers on short yardage situations.

Imagine getting 1st downs...

[Monk4theHall81]

Edwin Mulitalo

[bubba9497]

Wr Jerel Myers

[panel]

Just think, you could have turned that pick into Ladanian Tomlinson and Philip Rivers. :laugh:
NO, Ladanian Tomlinson and Drew Brees, even worse for our bird brain friend. (I think rivers was part of the Eli trade)