ESPN: Bears' schemes play to Archuleta's strengths(Mod Formatted Title)

[Brandon Lloyd Christmas]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp07/columns/story?columnist=sando_mike&id=2982520


i figured this should be here, if mods wanna move it feel free.

[Drunken Master III]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp07/columns/story?columnist=sando_mike&id=2982520


i figured this should be here, if mods wanna move it feel free.


what a bum!

[LoudMouth12thMan]

So making excuses for a guy who's a one dimensional player is in order now.:doh: I don't know of any successful "above avg" football player in the NFL that is one dimensional. If the guy can't cover, he's no good. Like I've always said, Arch is basically an undersized LB and that's it. :2cents:
HTTR

[[[ghost]]]

Well, they're right. We utilized him incorrectly.

[21dave]

[Archuleta and the Redskins resemble strangers who sobered up and regretted leaving the bar together.]

That made me chuckle

[Touchdown Redskins]

A safety is a safey is a safety. He's still going to have to cover some wideouts in the Cover 2 scheme, and he'll get burned.

[Brandon Lloyd Christmas]

So making excuses for a guy who's a one dimensional player is in order now.:doh: I don't know of any successful "above avg" football player in the NFL that is one dimensional. If the guy can't cover, he's no good. Like I've always said, Arch is basically an undersized LB and that's it. :2cents:
HTTR


exactly, the only thing he'd be good in is a 46, and even then he'd still have to cover at some point. his man coverage skills are worse than horrible.

[TheLongshot]

Well, just as I thought, it was Trotter all over again: A D-Coordinator who felt like he could change a limited player into something else. It isn't like it is the first time that has happened, and it probably won't be the last.

Course, the change this time is that at least Williams is getting players that are known quantities to him.

At least Arch learned something while he was here...

Jason

[pez]

Well he has moved on, and we are happy with our safety situation..... thats all that needs to be said.

[CPortJGibbs89]

[Archuleta and the Redskins resemble strangers who sobered up and regretted leaving the bar together.]

That made me chuckleYea I thought that was very funny and very true. When we play them this year I hope Cooley or one of our slot recievers gets lined up against him and burns the **** out of him.

[Gator Bait]

So making excuses for a guy who's a one dimensional player is in order now.:doh: I don't know of any successful "above avg" football player in the NFL that is one dimensional. If the guy can't cover, he's no good. Like I've always said, Arch is basically an undersized LB and that's it. :2cents:
HTTR

yeah, I wouldn't call him one dimensional....that isn't fair. we should have never signed him to play in our defense. we were just fine w/ Ryan Clark. but hey...now we have landry.

[Rocky21]

"Having one of the NFL's most athletic middle linebackers means the Bears don't always need tight coverage from their safeties."

Yeah right. Arch Deluxe will get burned badly in coverage this year. Wait and see.

[AKM311]

I personally think this showed a lot of character from AA. He did not bash the team and just point blank admitted that he could not grasp the defense. He is pretty much admitting that he can only be a great saftey in the cover 2 system and not one that requires him to think.

Nothing wrong with what he said and personally this only shows why a GM is important. He would have known AA was not a good fit and thus we would have never signed him to begin with. I see more fault on the Skins coaching staff (and Gibbs) for not recognizing this.

[No_Pressure]

I remember one thing about Archuleta...that Cowboys game I saw him on the field and was saying "NOOO WHY IS HE ON THE FIELD IN THIS SITUATION? HE'S GOING TO GIVE UP A HUGE PASS!!!" about .002 seconds later Romo completed that pass to a wide open Witten who had burned...guess who...Archuleta!

Thank god Vincent blocked that kick and saved us from suffering badly at the expense of Archuletdown.

The Bears will have a bit of that this season.

[Drex]

Archuleta was never a good fit here. He's moved on to a situation where he is a better fit and both teams are better off as a result.

[darrell1106]

Regardless, his g/f is still hot!
http://forum.surfermag.com/photopost/data/507/medium/5jennifer-walcott04.jpg

[BKSkinsFan]

Archuletta spent lots of time looking at film with GW before he signed here. He knew what he was getting himself into. He couldn't do what was asked of him, and was benched for it. Plain and simple, he couldn't cut it here. All the excuses are totally unnecessary.

They better hope AA isn't the one covering Cooley when they play us. Say what you want about minimizing his duties at covering receivers, any offensive coordinator will spend plenty of time trying to get just that, because it's an obvious mismatch.

[Truant]

One thing about Arch showing "class", he was on the radio last week talking about how he was going to "jack up" someone when we play the Bears later in the year.

[TheDoyler23]

Williams though he'd rise to the challenge and he didn't.

Enjoy being one dimensional somewhere else, AA. :thumbsup:

[InsaneBoost]

Hahahaha, boy are they in for a BIG surprise.

[Greekdude]

I personally think this showed a lot of character from AA. He did not bash the team and just point blank admitted that he could not grasp the defense. He is pretty much admitting that he can only be a great saftey in the cover 2 system and not one that requires him to think.

Nothing wrong with what he said and personally this only shows why a GM is important. He would have known AA was not a good fit and thus we would have never signed him to begin with. I see more fault on the Skins coaching staff (and Gibbs) for not recognizing this.

Well said bud,I agree with you.

[BKSkinsFan]

Regardless, his g/f is still hot!
http://forum.surfermag.com/photopost/data/507/medium/5jennifer-walcott04.jpg

I'm sure he has no problem covering her.

[Major Harris]

So making excuses for a guy who's a one dimensional player is in order now.:doh: I don't know of any successful "above avg" football player in the NFL that is one dimensional. If the guy can't cover, he's no good. Like I've always said, Arch is basically an undersized LB and that's it. :2cents:
HTTR

well, it's one thing to make excuses for him. it's another thing to totally ignore who was at fault with his signing last year. no one is turning down that money. especially when they know that no other team is stupid enough to offer him that money.

[jfs06473]

To me, this line from the article says it all about Archuletta: "The Redskins run one of the most complex defensive systems in the league. The Bears run one of the simpler ones."

'Nuf said.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

To me, this line from the article says it all about Archuletta: "The Redskins run one of the most complex defensive systems in the league. The Bears run one of the simpler ones."

'Nuf said.

I am a big believer in the KISS method when it comes to football.

[SonnyandSam]

Everyone is beating on Arch for being a bum. The REAL bum was Williams and the front office. After looking at all that film all winter long, Williams wanted Arch for his defense. Williams either completely missed the lack of coverage skills Arch has or was so arrogant that he felt he could teach Arch those skills.

Evaluating talent that fits your team is critical to a coach's success. Williams has done well with some players (Griffin, Pierce, Washington, Springs, Taylor)but he has bombed on a few, also.

I don't blame Arch for signing the biggest safety contract ever.....I blame the Skins for doing such a lousy job of evaluating his skills and whether he could contribute to the team.

[[[ghost]]]

I personally think this showed a lot of character from AA. He did not bash the team and just point blank admitted that he could not grasp the defense. He is pretty much admitting that he can only be a great saftey in the cover 2 system and not one that requires him to think.

Nothing wrong with what he said and personally this only shows why a GM is important. He would have known AA was not a good fit and thus we would have never signed him to begin with. I see more fault on the Skins coaching staff (and Gibbs) for not recognizing this.


I agree. He could have easily flipped out. I'm sure the media was pestering him with questions. But he stayed calm, and for that, he has my respect.

[rebornempowered]

One thing about Arch showing "class", he was on the radio last week talking about how he was going to "jack up" someone when we play the Bears later in the year.

Perhaps every quarterback in the league should go on the radio and talk about how they are going to audible to get him out of position whenever they see his "arm flapping and calling it coverage" self on the field.

[onnie007]

So making excuses for a guy who's a one dimensional player is in order now.:doh:
HTTR

Word for word what I was going to say. That dude is an undersize LB (which he actually played as at Arizona State U.) with the label of safety. He is a liability and they are using him knowing that Brian Urlacher will make up for his shortcomings. I am sooo happy we unloaded him and wish we never made the mistake in the first place.

[Siven]

One thing about Arch showing "class", he was on the radio last week talking about how he was going to "jack up" someone when we play the Bears later in the year.


Mike Sellers is going to run that ****er over.

[BigMike619]

I am a big believer in the KISS method when it comes to football.

you belive in having Gene Simmons blow fire at the QB and Ace Frehely shoot down the WRs with his laser guitar?

dude, thats just downright mean..

[TheDoyler23]

One thing about Arch showing "class", he was on the radio last week talking about how he was going to "jack up" someone when we play the Bears later in the year.

*Paging Mike Sellers*
Please bend this guy's neck back
*Paging Mike Sellers*

[onnie007]

Everyone is beating on Arch for being a bum. The REAL bum was Williams and the front office. After looking at all that film all winter long, Williams wanted Arch for his defense. Williams either completely missed the lack of coverage skills Arch has or was so arrogant that he felt he could teach Arch those skills.

Evaluating talent that fits your team is critical to a coach's success. Williams has done well with some players (Griffin, Pierce, Washington, Springs, Taylor)but he has bombed on a few, also.

I don't blame Arch for signing the biggest safety contract ever.....I blame the Skins for doing such a lousy job of evaluating his skills and whether he could contribute to the team.

You make a valid point but I believe that GW knew his shortcomings but still thought he was a FOOTBALL player. Its evident that AA's own shortcomings readily on his mind and the two words "I can't" in his vocabulary. Football coaches don't want to hear "I can't" and they don't expect highly touted players to use that in his speech. Please! I hope AA pays Urlacher some of his salary for doing some of his job. I'm so happy we drafted a COMPLETE safety with the requisite size and skill set.

[onnie007]

I'm sure he has no problem covering her.

You never know, she might need cover his shortcomings with a little HELP. ;)

[The Full Monty]

I remember one thing about Archuleta...that Cowboys game I saw him on the field and was saying "NOOO WHY IS HE ON THE FIELD IN THIS SITUATION? HE'S GOING TO GIVE UP A HUGE PASS!!!" about .002 seconds later Romo completed that pass to a wide open Witten who had burned...guess who...Archuleta!
Yeah he was in pass coverage for one play and he did the same dum-dum thing he did all year COVER WITH HIS HEAD DOWN.


Thank god Vincent blocked that kick and saved us from suffering badly at the expense of Archuletdown.
Arch definitely would've been a bigtime goat if Vincent doesn't block that kick.

[thelarkascend1ng]

i have to be honest, archuleta was pretty damn classy about the whole thing in that article. he could have bashed us (whether we deserve it or not) and had a ball but he just seems to be looking forward.

... i still think he isn't that great ahahahah.

[jthor99]

Can anyone tell me who i can email regarding why i cant start a new forum's......i just noticed under my name it says No New Threads....I dont think i did anything wrong and i actaully checked my posts from a few weeks back i didnt see anyhitng on there to see why i would be not allowed so if anyone could help me out on who to contact that would be GREAT thanks!

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

you belive in having Gene Simmons blow fire at the QB and Ace Frehely shoot down the WRs with his laser guitar?

dude, thats just downright mean..

Gene would be a great TE. He's got the size and the fire breathing thing down.

[bedlamVR]

Hang on wasn't Archuletta identified by most people on the team (Not the fans whop wanted to hang draw and quarter Springs) as the main source for the Tom Friend article?

[ucfSKINS]

Look, I'm from Phoenix and root for the ASU sun devils and their nfl players. I used to think how cool would it be to have one on our team. Well, Arch sucked, and sucked really bad. He was a decent college player that proved to be a suspect pro player. His 'scheme' involves standing in one place and hoping a receiver runs by with a ball thrown his way. God speed Arch, you and Plummer will be playing golf soon:doh:

[BigMike619]

Gene would be a great TE. He's got the size and the fire breathing thing down.

id much rather have Shannon Tweed's TE...

ok sorry that was cheesy..

[darrell1106]

You make a valid point but I believe that GW knew his shortcomings but still thought he was a FOOTBALL player. Its evident that AA's own shortcomings readily on his mind and the two words "I can't" in his vocabulary. Football coaches don't want to hear "I can't" and they don't expect highly touted players to use that in his speech. Please! I hope AA pays Urlacher some of his salary for doing some of his job. I'm so happy we drafted a COMPLETE safety with the requisite size and skill set.
Not to sour your point but go back and look at Landry's cover skills while at LSU. It aint pretty!

He should improve while playing with one of the best secondaries in the NFL but as of right now he has a little ways to go in terms of coverage. Although, anyone is better than AA.:doh:

[pjfootballer]

At least Arch learned something while he was here...

Jason

Yeah, how to be a personal punt protector.

[pjfootballer]

Regardless, his g/f is still hot!
http://forum.surfermag.com/photopost/data/507/medium/5jennifer-walcott04.jpg

This ALWAYS makes a thread more interesting. :applause:

[pjfootballer]

id much rather have Shannon Tweed's TE...

ok sorry that was cheesy..

And a good pick of the...er her TE would solidify this thread. :applause:

[Area51]

Not to sour your point but go back and look at Landry's cover skills while at LSU. It aint pretty!

He should improve while playing with one of the best secondaries in the NFL but as of right now he has a little ways to go in terms of coverage. Although, anyone is better than AA.:doh:

You do realize that Landry did not give up a single touchdown in his entire 4-year career at LSU? I'd take that any day of the week and that sounds like he is pretty good in coverage to me.

[Area51]

I remember one thing about Archuleta...that Cowboys game I saw him on the field and was saying "NOOO WHY IS HE ON THE FIELD IN THIS SITUATION? HE'S GOING TO GIVE UP A HUGE PASS!!!" about .002 seconds later Romo completed that pass to a wide open Witten who had burned...guess who...Archuleta!

Thank god Vincent blocked that kick and saved us from suffering badly at the expense of Archuletdown.

The Bears will have a bit of that this season.

This is what gets me. Why is everyone pissed off at Archuleta for this play? It was an absolutely STUPID move by G Williams. Why would he bring in Archuleta, have him play 3 yards off of Witten and expect him to cover him downfield one-on-one? I dont blame Archuleta for trying. I blame Williams. Remember people. Witten is one of the best TEs in the league. Almost Every safety will have trouble covering him, not just Archuleta.

[BigMike619]

And a good pick of the...er her TE would solidify this thread. :applause:

me ow..

[Soup]

He's doing the same crap with the bears that he did with us. I don't see any difference. He can't cover and he's out of position on some plays. The bears are using him just like gregg did, putting him to stop the run and as a pass rusher.

[chiefwahoo56]

This thread begs the question of what on earth Gibbs/Williams were thinking in the first place in signing this guy. Probably the biggest bust of the Snyder era and perhaps of the last 20 years. Help me if I'm wrong.

Dare I say bigger bust than Stub and Wilkinson were. At least they were premium positions and were a former #1 overall pick and D POY

[tomahawks]

"Some of that is my fault by focusing too much and trying to be perfect and trying to do everything the way they wanted it instead of sticking to what I believe in and playing the way I play football."



Sounds like to me he was uncoachable. Oh and also he was FOCUSING TOO MUCH ON THE MONEY. Can't blame him for that. :D

[Yusuf06]

Can anyone tell me who i can email regarding why i cant start a new forum's......i just noticed under my name it says No New Threads....I dont think i did anything wrong and i actaully checked my posts from a few weeks back i didnt see anyhitng on there to see why i would be not allowed so if anyone could help me out on who to contact that would be GREAT thanks!

When you have learned the why of the NNT designation, you will also have learned the way to enlightenment (http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=182264) ...and new thread creation. Now, when you can take the ball from my hand grasshopper you will be ready to go forth and post.

[D'Pablo]

]']Well, they're right. We utilized him incorrectly.

So I guess the Bears are using him as their first string towel-boy now...

[Taylor 36]

Well, just as I thought, it was Trotter all over again: A D-Coordinator who felt like he could change a limited player into something else. It isn't like it is the first time that has happened, and it probably won't be the last.

Course, the change this time is that at least Williams is getting players that are known quantities to him.

At least Arch learned something while he was here...

JasonGood points!!!

[Taylor 36]

So I guess the Bears are using him as their first string towel-boy now... What is that suppossed to mean? Ghost is right, AA was not used the way he should have been while here. I think there are several reasons for that.:2cents:

[TotalRecall]

Sure, Williams used him wrong. He probably has Dec. 6th highlighted on his calendar. However, reading from the article, he's still a weak link, because the bears have to hide him or help him so he doesn't get burned by the WRs and TEs.