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hokie4redskins
September-4th-2007, 12:08 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/stewart_mandel/09/04/power.rankings2/index.html

Victors vanish
Michigan drops out of top 25 following historic defeat
Posted: Tuesday September 4, 2007 12:56PM; Updated: Tuesday September 4, 2007 1:03PM
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Deciding how far to drop Michigan was actually the easy part about filling out this week's ballot. I can't speak for other voters, but the Wolverines were out of my rankings the moment Appalachian State safety Corey Lynch's hand met pigskin on Michigan's last-second field-goal attempt. With all due respect to the Mountaineers, there's no justifiable reason to rank a team that lost its first game to a I-AA opponent ahead of any of 25 other teams that did take care of business (or, in the case of Tennessee, lost on the road to a quality opponent).

The harder part was deciding what to do with a handful of teams that didn't produce anywhere near as disastrous an opening outcome as Michigan -- but did not look particularly good, either. I've always said that once the games begin, preseason perceptions go out the window, but one game does not constitute a body of work, either. Do you chalk up a team's ugly performance as a case of opening-day jitters? Or do you take it as a sign of trouble ahead?

As long as a team wins, even if much closer than expected, I'm not going to send it spiraling down the polls. But in the case of three teams -- Texas, Virginia Tech and Auburn -- I thought their opening-day performances were troubling enough to merit dropping them a spot or two. (One other team also dropped despite winning, but for entirely different reasons; see below). We'll find out the truth soon enough; all three face teams ranked elsewhere in this poll next Saturday.

One other note: Many of you have asked if or where I would rank Appalachian State this week if I-AA teams were eligible for the poll. The answer is, yes, I would rank the Mountaineers, at least for this week (realistically, they're not one of the 25 best teams in America), because they accomplished as much as any other team in the country last weekend. The harder part was figuring out where.

Most likely, I would have just stuck them at 25th -- I could think of no logical criteria for deciding which teams they should be ranked above and/or which teams they'd remain below. Although, if one were to take opinion completely of the equation and base these rankings solely on the quality of each team's wins last weekend, either Appalachian State or Cal would be No. 1.

PleaseBlitz
September-4th-2007, 01:56 PM
3. West Virginia Mountaineers (1-0)
According to the Pittsburgh Tribune Review, Western Michigan attempted a "Cover Zero" defense against WVU, bringing both safeties to the line to stop the run. The Mountaineers managed just 16 yards on their first eight rushes. But then Pat White started throwing, and the rest was history.
Last game: Beat Western Michigan, 62-24.
Next game: Saturday at Marshall.

We had nearly 550 yards of offense (with our backups playing most of the 2nd half) and we are only 15th in the country in offense. Wow.

7th overall in rush offense. 5th in yards/carry.

hokie4redskins
September-4th-2007, 02:34 PM
Against the defensive juggernaut known as Western Michigan.

Regardless, your offense is fine. I'd be more worried about WM dropping 24 on you.

Major Harris
September-4th-2007, 10:18 PM
Against the defensive juggernaut known as Western Michigan.
a juggernaut they are not, but look here:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/stats/2006/divia/team/rushing_defense_byRUSHYDS_PER_GAME.html

and yes, they're opponents have something to do with that ranking, i'll concede that.


Regardless, your offense is fine. I'd be more worried about WM dropping 24 on you.

very true. the defense doesn't seem to have changed much from last year. and that's not real good when you're talking pass defense.

PapaDRoc
September-4th-2007, 10:39 PM
16 Penn State Nittany Lions (1-0)
With all the debate about how high Appalachian State would rank if it played in I-A, how far down do you think Florida International would place in I-AA? Anthony Morelli broke a school record with 231 first-half passing yards and JoePa's team scored the third shutout in its last six games.
Last game: Beat Florida International, 59-0.
Next game: Saturday vs. Notre Dame.

Ranked lower than State is in the polls, but thats alright with me since we opened against the worst team in college football. A win against ND this weekend should move us up :)

PleaseBlitz
September-5th-2007, 10:07 AM
Against the defensive juggernaut known as Western Michigan.

Regardless, your offense is fine. I'd be more worried about WM dropping 24 on you.

Keep in mind that 2 of their 4 scores were against our backups. See, we were winning by a lot, so we got to put in our backups, unlike VT.

And i'd be concerned with your offense only scoring 10 on that juggernaut ECU defense.

SkinsHokieFan
September-5th-2007, 10:10 AM
Keep in mind that 2 of their 4 scores were against our backups. See, we were winning by a lot, so we got to put in our backups, unlike VT.

And i'd be concerned with your offense only scoring 10 on that juggernaut ECU defense.

Yup, although they do bring 8 guys back and gave your O some fits last year

They are a very under rated D, well coached and fundamentally sound. Pretty much, the offense had to earn every yard it got

PleaseBlitz
September-5th-2007, 10:11 AM
Ranked lower than State is in the polls, but thats alright with me since we opened against the worst team in college football. A win against ND this weekend should move us up :)


It shouldnt, but it will. :silly:

PleaseBlitz
September-5th-2007, 10:15 AM
Yup, although they do bring 8 guys back and gave your O some fits last year

They are a very under rated D, well coached and fundamentally sound. Pretty much, the offense had to earn every yard it got

Sorry, but dont point to underrated defenses for ECU, but assume WM is some patsy. The numbers dont back you up.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/stats/2006/divia/team/total_defense_byDFNSYDS_PER_GAME.html

WM is #11, ECU is not listed in the top 50.

EersSkins05
September-5th-2007, 07:26 PM
Relax fellas, there's a long way to go in the season.

No need to hyperanalyze the opening game of college football on anybody's schedule (unless you lose to Appy State). We'll have a nice assessment of each team's overall ability as we go.

Major Harris
September-5th-2007, 09:44 PM
Relax fellas
get outta' here...............:)

BigRedskinDaddy
September-6th-2007, 08:26 PM
Relax fellas, there's a long way to go in the season.

No need to hyperanalyze the opening game of college football on anybody's schedule (unless you lose to Appy State). We'll have a nice assessment of each team's overall ability as we go.

True,

'Cept for this: my vaunted :D Brew-ha's (UCLA) will AGAIN take down the hated University of Spoiled Children in November. That outta throw a significant monkey-wrench into the final BCS polls and resultant bowl games.

You read it here first.

HTTR