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Skins2Win33
September-11th-2007, 09:51 PM
Frm what i saw against the Giants, we should be in good shape when we play the cowboys, especially with our running game. Ward came in after Jacobs got hurt and was running rampid on the Cowchicks. If a second rate back can run all over them like that, I can only imagine with the rest of the offensive line healthy by that time and Portis and Betts at tip top shape, how we could make their D cry from getting pounced on. I certainly hope Campbell can raise his performance, then things could really get interesting with this offense. Oh and our D against the Cowchicks, I guarantee you Romo will get the heat those games. Until then, they can watch us bring the heat against Mcnabb, and most likely the chubby boy QB from the Giants.

TheGift
September-11th-2007, 09:53 PM
We don't play them til the middle of the season, it's too early to say what they will be by then. Plus that D will be different when they get Newman back (kinda like we will when we get Springs back in)

I expect Miami to beat them big this week.

Staylorfan021
September-11th-2007, 09:54 PM
if their run D was bad, then there pass D was horrid...#31 can not cover a bed with a blanket

#98QBKiller
September-11th-2007, 09:55 PM
Cowchicks is a horrible nickname.

Skins2Win33
September-11th-2007, 09:56 PM
Cowchicks is a horrible nickname.

Ok, how about Cowlicks? LOL

Siven
September-11th-2007, 09:58 PM
That defense is done. a 3-4 simple can not be run effectively without a nose tackle.

they are

D-O-N-E

ThePreciating
September-11th-2007, 09:58 PM
How about Cowvag.

#98QBKiller
September-11th-2007, 09:58 PM
Ok, how about Cowlicks? LOL



:laugh:


Alright, I should've seen that one coming.

RIDETHEWALRUS
September-11th-2007, 11:05 PM
Fact of the matter is the gnats put up 35 on that team yet they are worse than us offensively at every position except for #2 WR and maybe QB. We are going to spank the cow pukes!

BigDFan5
September-11th-2007, 11:07 PM
Fact of the matter is the gnats put up 35 on that team yet they are worse than us offensively at every position except for #2 WR and maybe QB. We are going to spank the cow pukes!



:laugh:

ejay183
September-11th-2007, 11:25 PM
Well, their big guy in the middle is gone and we will see how that 3-4 holds up without him

Ken
September-12th-2007, 12:25 AM
Well, their big guy in the middle is gone and we will see how that 3-4 holds up without him
It is kinda like when everyone said we were done when Glenn went down...Crayton stepped in. We boys fans had no doubt about his ability.

Now, it is Ratliff's turn. Guy brings a different dimension, but one that might fit Phillips scheme better. Much more active and can bring the heat from the interior.

We are not done by Fergy going down. Makes it harder, but if we get Newman and Ellis back, and reasonably healthy, we should be ok.

Inquisitor
September-12th-2007, 12:35 AM
I think you people are reading way too much into one game. I hate the Cowboys as much as the next guy, but I do happen to think they were going up against a pretty damn good offense. Now maybe none of the RB's in the game after Jacobs went out were all that flashy but they ran hard, and they ran behind what I believe to be a damn good offensive line, one of the more underrated lines in the league in fact. They were effective in creating running lanes. It's what the Giants line does best. Not to mention the threat of the deep ball, and Eli on point all night kept the Dallas D honest.

Now as for the Cowboys offense, again I don't think they're as good as they showed on Sunday night, strike that I know they're not that good. But they are extremely talented, and Romo deserves all the credit in the world for putting the ball on target all night. Even if his receivers were getting ridiculous separation, and he basically came out of the game with a clean jersey. To expand on the last thought, I was really impressed with the Cowboys offensive line on Sunday, they are massive. If they can continue to protect Romo like that week in and week out they are going to be dangerous.

MidwayMonster31
September-12th-2007, 12:40 AM
The Giants offense was always potent, however, it was always inconsistent. Manning had a great game, finding the targets right away. Plaxico Burress decided to show up. Ward had a good game too. The Giants made a pretty good strategy against them, but other teams will prove that that wasn't a fluke, especially with Ferguson hurt. The most important position in a 3-4 is the NT.

Inquisitor
September-12th-2007, 12:48 AM
The Giants offense was always potent, however, it was always inconsistent.

Inconsistent in the sense that the old Manning could be dazzling on one series, and horrendous on the next. If you've been following Manning this preseason, and into the regular season. You'd see the consistency is way up. Especially the accuracy, decision making, and poise. This is what accounted for why the Giants were so effective and consistent on offense last Sunday night. Eli's play has been nothing short of brillant so far this season.

Of course there is nothing like throwing a wrench in the wheels, like only a unforseen injury can do, to throw off a QB who seems to have finally turned the corner and come into his own. We'll see how well his arm holds up this season, but I believe it'll be fine, and his breakout season will continue.

Ken
September-12th-2007, 12:53 AM
I think you people are reading way too much into one game. I hate the Cowboys as much as the next guy, but I do happen to think they were going up against a pretty damn good offense. Now maybe none of the RB's in the game after Jacobs went out were all that flashy but they ran hard, and they ran behind what I believe to be a damn good offensive line, one of the more underrated lines in the league in fact. They were effective in creating running lanes. It's what the Giants line does best. Not to mention the threat of the deep ball, and Eli on point all night kept the Dallas D honest.

Now as for the Cowboys offense, again I don't think they're as good as they showed on Sunday night, strike that I know they're not that good. But they are extremely talented, and Romo deserves all the credit in the world for putting the ball on target all night. Even if his receivers were getting ridiculous separation, and he basically came out of the game with a clean jersey. To expand on the last thought, I was really impressed with the Cowboys offensive line on Sunday, they are massive. If they can continue to protect Romo like that week in and week out they are going to be dangerous.
I appreciate you unbiased analysis! :cheers:

phatSkins27
September-12th-2007, 01:21 AM
i think after watching the cowboys Defense our offense looks in fine shape for their game and much closer I think looking at the Giants Defensive woes are Offense will be humming in that game. besides with all the injuries to both teams, looks like the other two NFC East teams will have the injury bug this year

SkinsFanAnt
September-12th-2007, 05:24 PM
I find it hilarious that Puke fans and the Homo loving media can continue to sport a boner by 'Proping up' what EVERYONE knows to be an ailing Giants team in order to retain credibility that the Pukes will be contenders this year.
Sorry, but if YOUR uber defense team made the Gnats look good, you are in SERIOUS trouble this season. The Giants were the best mediocre team last year and will be the worst mediocre team this year.

Trust me...when the Pukes get stomped by Miami, you'll have your typical "rude awakening".

Bliz
September-12th-2007, 06:03 PM
It is kinda like when everyone said we were done when Glenn went down...Crayton stepped in. We boys fans had no doubt about his ability.

Now, it is Ratliff's turn. Guy brings a different dimension, but one that might fit Phillips scheme better. Much more active and can bring the heat from the interior.

We are not done by Fergy going down. Makes it harder, but if we get Newman and Ellis back, and reasonably healthy, we should be ok.

That's a lot of "ifs". You're talking about arguably 3 of the 4 most important people on the defense. Ferguson was a proven vet and a force, and he's being replaced with an unknown. Maybe he'll step up, maybe he won't. Just having problems with the key to the front 7 effects the defense tremendously. Add to that your #1 cb and your second best LB being out or slowed by injury for at least a couple weeks, and that turns the whole defense into a huge question mark. Doesn't mean you'll plummet the way we did, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the Dallass defense at #15-20 at the end of the year, which is still a huge dropoff from what everyone expected.
:dallasuck

GodsTeam
September-13th-2007, 06:25 AM
Originally Posted by Inquisitor
I think you people are reading way too much into one game. I hate the Cowboys as much as the next guy, but I do happen to think they were going up against a pretty damn good offense. Now maybe none of the RB's in the game after Jacobs went out were all that flashy but they ran hard, and they ran behind what I believe to be a damn good offensive line, one of the more underrated lines in the league in fact. They were effective in creating running lanes. It's what the Giants line does best. Not to mention the threat of the deep ball, and Eli on point all night kept the Dallas D honest.

Now as for the Cowboys offense, again I don't think they're as good as they showed on Sunday night, strike that I know they're not that good. But they are extremely talented, and Romo deserves all the credit in the world for putting the ball on target all night. Even if his receivers were getting ridiculous separation, and he basically came out of the game with a clean jersey. To expand on the last thought, I was really impressed with the Cowboys offensive line on Sunday, they are massive. If they can continue to protect Romo like that week in and week out they are going to be dangerous.




props

Riggo#44
September-13th-2007, 08:53 AM
:laugh:

Wow, that's some sound reasoning, way to bring it!

The fact is, the Redskins are as good or stronger then the Giants at every offensive position except for maybe QB, and maybe WR.

They have a stronger O-line.

Porits and Betts are lightyears better the Jacobs and Ward.

Cooley is every bit as good as Shockey. And Santana Moss is no slouch either.

IF (I am not claiming he WILL. Since you have a really hard time comprehending these posts I wanted to make that perfectly clear!) Randel-El continues to produce anything like he did on Sunday, they will be just as good as the Giants WR corps, if not better.

But I expect you to go with your usual "nah-ah, no they're not" stance. So I don't know why I bother...

TonyRomoProBowl
September-13th-2007, 10:01 AM
Wow, that's some sound reasoning, way to bring it!

The fact is, the Redskins are as good or stronger then the Giants at every offensive position except for maybe QB, and maybe WR.

They have a stronger O-line.

Porits and Betts are lightyears better the Jacobs and Ward.

Cooley is every bit as good as Shockey. And Santana Moss is no slouch either.

IF (I am not claiming he WILL. Since you have a really hard time comprehending these posts I wanted to make that perfectly clear!) Randel-El continues to produce anything like he did on Sunday, they will be just as good as the Giants WR corps, if not better.

But I expect you to go with your usual "nah-ah, no they're not" stance. So I don't know why I bother...

Riggo, your right, the Skins off is better, but its about match-ups and styles. Do you think that the Skins when they play Dallas in Dallas will put up the same offensive numbers that the Giants did? I dont. and i tell you right now, the Cowboys woint come close to those numbers vs Washington. Its a match up thing....and the one difference in the two offenses (NY and Wash) is the QB position, Campbell has some cool tools, but he is not as good as Eli....not yet anyway.

Riggo#44
September-13th-2007, 10:55 AM
Riggo, your right, the Skins off is better, but its about match-ups and styles. Do you think that the Skins when they play Dallas in Dallas will put up the same offensive numbers that the Giants did? I dont. and i tell you right now, the Cowboys woint come close to those numbers vs Washington. Its a match up thing....and the one difference in the two offenses (NY and Wash) is the QB position, Campbell has some cool tools, but he is not as good as Eli....not yet anyway.

The one thing I noticed from what I saw was the Giant O-line seemed to be opening some holes. And the Giant ground game looked pretty good. It's something that bears watching. The Redskins defense held New Orleans in check on the road last year, so there are flukes in every season -- whether this game was one or not remains to be seen.

And while Plaxico is huge, he is no where near as fast as Moss -- and Henry, Williams and Reeves were toasted by him repeatedly. Could be another match up problem there too.

And yes playing in Dallas always worries me. Except for about 90 seconds, the Skins have been pretty much handled there.

And I agree Campbell is not as good as Eli, yet.