USA Today: Defense in decline for winless Dolphins

[tr1]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/2007-09-24-99697506_x.htm
By Steven Wine, AP Sports Writer

DAVIE, Fla. — Plagued in recent seasons by quarterback woes and a sputtering running game, the Miami Dolphins finally have an offense to match their defense.

The defense has been that bad.

For the third game in a row, the Dolphins' once-stout defense failed to protect a lead Sunday and faded in the second half. A 31-28 loss to the New York Jets left Miami 0-3 for only the second time since 1969.

"We've got a classic case of our strength becoming our weakness," coach Cam Cameron said Monday. "What I mean is we have guys who are trying to do too much. It can lead to mistakes and things that crop up at inopportune times."

That's one theory. Another is that the defense has simply become too old. Tackle Keith Traylor is 38, middle linebacker Zach Thomas is 34, end Jason Taylor is 33, tackle Vonnie Holliday is 31 and linebacker Joey Porter is 30.

Thomas sat out Sunday because of a concussion, and his availability for this week's game against Oakland is uncertain. None of the other 30-somethings distinguished themselves against the Jets.

Oakland brings to Miami a strong running game and quarterback Daunte Culpepper, a washout with the Dolphins before Cameron released him in July. Culpepper relieved an injured Josh McCown to lead the Raiders (1-2) to their first win Sunday against Cleveland.

The Dolphins defense ranked among the NFL's top 10 in eight of the past nine seasons. It's galling for Miami fans that this year's decline coincides with signs of long-sought offensive improvement.

On Sunday, Trent Green threw for 318 yards, and third-year running back Ronnie Brown had his best all-around day in the NFL, with 112 yards rushing and 99 receiving.

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[Xtreme Cowboy]

Who else to post this other than you? And let me guess, this is just about the Dolphins, not that the Cowboys whooped up on their defense(and offense)? But it has to be, because the Skins beat them as well(even though it was only by 3 points). :rolleyes:

[tr1]

Who else to post this other than you? And let me guess, this is just about the Dolphins, not that the Cowboys whooped up on their defense(and offense)? But it has to be, because the Skins beat them as well(even though it was only by 3 points). :rolleyes:

I post a lot of articles.

[SkinsHokieFan]

Who else to post this other than you? And let me guess, this is just about the Dolphins, not that the Cowboys whooped up on their defense(and offense)? But it has to be, because the Skins beat them as well(even though it was only by 3 points). :rolleyes:

Obsess much?

[Xtreme Cowboy]

Obsess much?
Over what?.....

[pimpumd]

Over what?.....

TR1's postings of informative articles about various NFL teams.

[Xtreme Cowboy]

TR1's postings of informative articles about various NFL teams.
How many have a replied to compared to how many he posts? Plus it's like he's the only one posts them.

[tr1]

How many have a replied to compared to how many he posts? Plus it's like he's the only one posts them.

Hmmm...I'm flattered by your attention, but people are gonna start talking....

:secret:

[pimpumd]

How many have a replied to compared to how many he posts? Plus it's like he's the only one posts them.

I really don't feel like how counting how many you've replied to or how many TR1 has posted. If it seems like he's the only who posts these articles, it's because he does post a majority of the articles relating to other teams. He does a very good job of keeping Skins fans (and everyone else that hangs out in the Around the NFL forum) informed about the goings on around the league.

[Xtreme Cowboy]

I really don't feel like how counting how many you've replied to or how many TR1 has posted. If it seems like he's the only who posts these articles, it's because he does post a majority of the articles relating to other teams. He does a very good job of keeping Skins fans (and everyone else that hangs out in the Around the NFL forum) informed about the goings on around the league.
So if you don't know how many I've replied to then please answer my orginal question one more time: [Obsess much...] Over what?....

[pimpumd]

So if you don't know how many I've replied to then please answer my orginal question one more time: [Obsess much...] Over what?....

Your response to the original post, along with your responses to my posts, pretty much indicate your obsession with TR1's post(s).

TR1 posts an informative article about the Dolphins and the first thing out of your mouth is a bunch of crying about "only you would post this, TR1, wah wah." Then somebody calls you out on it and you get super sensitive about it with your "who? me? obsessed? I'm not obsessed" routine. I think you've pretty much demonstrated your obsession in this thread alone.

[Xtreme Cowboy]

Your response to the original post, along with your responses to my posts, pretty much indicate your obsession with TR1's post(s).

TR1 posts an informative article about the Dolphins and the first thing out of your mouth is a bunch of crying about "only you would post this, TR1, wah wah." Then somebody calls you out on it and you get super sensitive about it with your "who? me? obsessed? I'm not obsessed" routine. I think you've pretty much demonstrated your obsession in this thread alone.
:doh: Poor little Redskin! Did ya ever think the reason I reply to his posts are because they are mostly about the Cowboys? The reason I made my original post was due to the fact that after we played teams he makes excuses about them(i.e. this thread: http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=213526), which is why I accused him of the same with this thread.

[tr1]

:doh: Poor little Redskin! Did ya ever think the reason I reply to his posts are because they are mostly about the Cowboys? The reason I made my original post was due to the fact that after we played teams he makes excuses about them(i.e. this thread: http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=213526), which is why I accused him of the same with this thread.

Ah! The Texas school system strikes again! :cool:

[tr1]

Listen to Pimpumd...he speaks sense.

[Xtreme Cowboy]

Ah! The Texas school system strikes again! :cool:
Good one! :rolleyes:

[pimpumd]

:doh: Poor little Redskin! Did ya ever think the reason I reply to his posts are because they are mostly about the Cowboys? The reason I made my original post was due to the fact that after we played teams he makes excuses about them(i.e. this thread: http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=213526), which is why I accused him of the same with this thread.

So now you're saying you do respond to his posts, but yet you're not obsessed? I think you've lost everyone at this point.

I'll say it one more time, hopefully it gets processed this time. TR1 makes posts about a number of different teams, many of which are teams that have not played the Pukes this year. What about this do you not understand?

[Xtreme Cowboy]

So now you're saying you do respond to his posts, but yet you're not obsessed? I think you've lost everyone at this point.

I'll say it one more time, hopefully it gets processed this time. TR1 makes posts about a number of different teams, many of which are teams that have not played the Pukes this year. What about this do you not understand?
:doh: Poor little Redskin. When did I say that I never respond to his posts?

[pimpumd]

:doh: Poor little Redskin. When did I say that I never respond to his posts?

How many have a replied to compared to how many he posts?

You didn't say that you "never" reply to his posts, but you certainly implied that you don't respond to many. Care to keep going?

[Xtreme Cowboy]

You didn't say that you "never" reply to his posts, but you certainly implied that you don't respond to many. Care to keep going?
Oh, so now I do but not as few as I think? :doh: Actually when I say, "how many have a replied to compared to how many he posts," doesn't imply that I don't respond to many if you know how many he posts. Care to keep going?

[pimpumd]

doesn't imply that I don't respond to many if you know how many he posts. Care to keep going?

Do you even know what you're saying? What you just said, "doesn't imply that I don't," is a double negative and actually means, "does imply that I do." So basically you just said that your own statement implies that you DO respond to many of TR1's posts. Thanks for proving my point. That was fun.

Now I know what TR1 meant with that comment about Texas education. :doh:

[Xtreme Cowboy]

Do you even know what you're saying? What you just said, "doesn't imply that I don't," is a double negative and actually means, "does imply that I do." So basically you just said that your own statement implies that you DO respond to many of TR1's posts. Thanks for proving my point. That was fun.

Now I know what TR1 meant with that comment about Texas education. :doh:

Are you an English teacher now? I said that what I stated does not imply that I do not respond to many of his posts, if you know how many he does post. How do you not understand that? So basically you just said that your own statement implies that you DO respond to many of TR1's posts. :laugh: Poor little Redskin.

[pimpumd]

I'm not an English teacher, but it's difficult to decipher what you're trying to say when you can't put a sentence together properly. I think it's safe to say that what you said makes no sense to anyone but yourself. Come on, tell the truth, you aren't really 22, are you?

What we do know is that you respond to TR1's posts about other teams (self-admittedly on more than one occasion), cry about them somehow being related to Pukes, then cry some more when someone calls you obsessed. If you can't handle it, then perhaps you should take TR1's post for what it was (an article about another team) rather than throwing a hissy fit and claiming it had to do with the Pukes. Believe it or not, we do have more to talk about here than the Pukes.

Is there where you call me "poor little Redskin?"

[Xtreme Cowboy]

I'm not an English teacher, but it's difficult to decipher what you're trying to say when you can't put a sentence together properly. I think it's safe to say that what you said makes no sense to anyone but yourself. Come on, tell the truth, you aren't really 22, are you?
Poor little Redskin! :doh:

What we do know is that you respond to TR1's posts about other teams (self-admittedly on more than one occasion), cry about them somehow being related to Pukes, then cry some more when someone calls you obsessed. If you can't handle it, then perhaps you should take TR1's post for what it was (an article about another team) rather than throwing a hissy fit and claiming it had to do with the Pukes.
All this because you thought that I had an obsession with tr1, which you have still yet to prove.


Believe it or not, we do have more to talk about here than the Pukes. But you spend all this time replying to a Cowboy fan?

Is there where you call me "poor little Redskin?"
Oh, and poor little redskin!

[THEHEREAFTER]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/2007-09-24-99697506_x.htm
By Steven Wine, AP Sports Writer

DAVIE, Fla. — Plagued in recent seasons by quarterback woes and a sputtering running game, the Miami Dolphins finally have an offense to match their defense.

The defense has been that bad.



...

I'm not so sure about this. They did hold Jason Campbell and the redskins to 13 points in regulation.

[tr1]

I'm not so sure about this. The did hold Jason Campbell and the redskins to 13 points in regulation.

The Skins offense is not as good as its defense.

The Miami defense is bad...

So far, the pukes have beaten three bad defensive teams.

Just sayin'.

[Xtreme Cowboy]

The Skins offense is not as good as its defense.

The Miami defense is bad...

So far, the pukes have beaten three bad defensive teams.

Just sayin'.
and offensive teams, right? Oh wait, the Skins lost to the Giants so they're not bad, two bad offensive teams! :rolleyes:

[THEHEREAFTER]

The Skins offense is not as good as its defense.

This doesn't bode well for you based on what I saw at Fed Ex Sunday. :D

The Miami defense is bad...

Bubba told me they were a top 5 defense from last year led by the reigning DPOY though?

So far, the pukes have beaten three bad defensive teams.

Just sayin'.

Dallas is the highest scoring team and the #2 offense in the league. They are making GREAT defenses look average to poor and average defenses look abysmal. Keep running!

[tr1]

and offensive teams, right? Oh wait, the Skins lost to the Giants so they're not bad, two bad offensive teams! :rolleyes:

I'm not saying the Skins lost to a good team...stop putting words in my mouth.

The fact is, the pukes have beat three bad teams. Their records say so.

[tr1]

This doesn't bode well for you based on what I saw at Fed Ex Sunday. :D

Funny, I saw a pretty good team that came back at the end to almost pull it out. Your TV must have problems.


Bubba told me they were a top 5 defense from last year led by the reigning DPOY though?

Last year? Sure. This year...no way.



Dallas is the highest scoring team and the #2 offense in the league. They are making GREAT defenses look average to poor and average defenses look abysmal. Keep running!

They haven't played a GREAT defense...all the stats and records of those teams confirm that.

Stop making stuff up.

[THEHEREAFTER]

They haven't played a GREAT defense...all the stats and records of those teams confirm that.

Stop making stuff up.

The bears have an OUTSTANDING defense. Let's be real here.

[dwdj75]

I'm not saying the Skins lost to a good team...stop putting words in my mouth.

The fact is, the pukes have beat three bad teams. Their records say so.

I'll go with that. They are beating teams they are supposed to beat.

All this with a new Coach, new scheme, arguably their best offensive, and their two best defensive weapons out.

Sounds like a team that will only get better. Once they really implement the scheme, and get their players healthy.

[tr1]

I'll go with that. They are beating teams they are supposed to beat.

All this with a new Coach, new scheme, arguably their best offensive, and their two best defensive weapons out.

Sounds like a team that will only get better. Once they really implement the scheme, and get their players healthy.

Maybe...maybe not.

We'll see when they play some teams with winning records and good defenses...

[dwdj75]

The bears have an OUTSTANDING defense. Let's be real here.
Nope, he's right.

And the good thing is I'll doubt we'll ever see a great D. Good thing for us.

[dwdj75]

Maybe...maybe not.

We'll see when they play some teams with winning records and good defenses...

Hey tr1, who do you consider to be a good team right now ?

[pimpumd]

All this because you thought that I had an obsession with tr1, which you have still yet to prove.



Conclusory statement if I ever saw one. So, because you say I haven't proved your obsession, then obviously I haven't, right? You contradicted yourself, buddy, but you can't admit it. Anyone that reads thread and has half a brain can tell your obsessed, but I wouldn't expect you to pick up on that.

So tell me, do you cry in all of TR1's threads?

[Xtreme Cowboy]

So, because you say I haven't proved your obsession, then obviously I haven't, right? You contradicted yourself, buddy, but you can't admit it. How is that contradicting myself? :doh: