2008 Salary Cap Commitments for each team

[coolbeans]

2008 CAP COMMITMENT (with number of players under contract in parentheses)

Tennessee (34) $71.842 million
San Diego (44) $79.729 million
Buffalo (44) $81.177 million
Cincinnati (44) $81.268 million
Jacksonville (42) $82.263 million
San Francisco (46) $83.472 million
New Orleans (37) $84.076 million
Arizona (36) $86.531 million
Dallas (40) $88.593 million
Miami (40) $88.622 million
N.Y. Giants (46) $89.156 million
Oakland (40) $90.133 million
Cleveland (41) $90.306 million
Houston (38) $90.951 million
Detroit (40) $91.488 million
Tampa Bay (47) $92.869 million
Kansas City (43) $94.132 million
Green Bay (47) $94.506 million
Chicago (49) $94.857 million
Pittsburgh (39) $95.017 million
Denver (41) $95.279 million
Minnesota (45) $95.794 million
Philadelphia (48) $96.051 million
N.Y. Jets (43) $98.231 million
Seattle (41) $102.206 million
St. Louis (38) $103.059 million
Indianapolis (42) $104.561 million
New England (42) $105.131 million
Atlanta (47) $108.861 million
Carolina (34) $109.899 million
Baltimore (42) $110.014 million
Washington (45) $136.270 million



Projected cap = $116 Million

[tr1]

Another trolling thread...not very original...but then again, you are a puke fan.

[Westbrook36]

I'd love it if Dallas had all that money and Romo felt insulted at not getting an offseason blockbuster offer and peddled his wares at the end of the year.

[coolbeans]

How is this trolling? Is the salary cap commitments for each team not a relevant topic for this forum? I merely posted the info without any references to any teams specific situation.

[coolbeans]

I'd love it if Dallas had all that money and Romo felt insulted at not getting an offseason blockbuster offer and peddled his wares at the end of the year.

JJ has already stated that Romo will be franchised for the next 2 years if no deal is signed.

[NewBlood81]

JJ has already stated that Romo will be franchised for the next 2 years if no deal is signed.

Players don't like to be franchised especially if the player is Romo who rely alot on his mobility.

[coolbeans]

Players don't like to be franchised especially if the player is Romo who rely alot on his mobility.

Who said he had to like it. The point is JJ has basically said Romo isn't going anywhere and he has no problem giving him the big payday if he proves himself this year. JJ is just waiting to see a little more. By the way, Romo has gone on record several times stating he is not concerned about his contract, feels it will get done eventually, and has no desire to leave Dallas.

[SkinsFTW]

Washington (45) $136.270 million



[b]Projected cap = $116 Million


I blame Brunell. :laugh: :laugh:

[tr1]

Who said he had to like it. The point is JJ has basically said Romo isn't going anywhere and he has no problem giving him the big payday if he proves himself this year. JJ is just waiting to see a little more. By the way, Romo has gone on record several times stating he is not concerned about his contract, feels it will get done eventually, and has no desire to leave Dallas.


If they don't tie up Romo before the end of the season, it's franchise time. He'd be stupid not to test free agency at this point...

[dockeryfan]

If they don't tie up Romo before the end of the season, it's franchise time. He'd be stupid not to test free agency at this point...
He doesn't have to play as a franchise player. A QB should hold out. He'd have a number of teams willing to take that chance at re-signing him.

The cowboys would literally be held for ransom. If I was romo, I would dare them to friggin franchise me. Romo really holds most of the power in that negotiation. Not the Cowboys.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

I think the plan is to immediately franchise Romo and then negotiate a long-term deal that he will still make him very very rich.

There will probably be some posturing, but I can't see Romo leaving Dallas right now.

(I would also think that being the starting QB of the Dallas Cowboys results in an inordinate number of opportunities outside of football. He was to consider that fact. I mean, he is not going to get a lot of endorsements in Kansas City or Detroit).

[The Evil Genius]

I suspect that in 2008, Brunell's 6.516 mil cap hit, Cornelius Griffin's 6.166 mil cap hit, Jon Jansen's 8.833 mil cap hit, Brandon Lloyd's 4.238 mil cap hit, Shawn Spring's 7.484 mil cap hit, Randy Thomas's 8.756 mil cap hit, and Marcus Washington's 6.445 mil cap hit will all be addressed in the offseason.

Not to mention Portis's 8.876 mil cap hit in 2008.

[SonnyJ]

I suspect that in 2008, Brunell's 6.516 mil cap hit, Cornelius Griffin's 6.166 mil cap hit, Jon Jansen's 8.833 mil cap hit, Brandon Lloyd's 4.238 mil cap hit, Shawn Spring's 7.484 mil cap hit, Randy Thomas's 8.756 mil cap hit, and Marcus Washington's 6.445 mil cap hit will all be addressed in the offseason.

Not to mention Portis's 8.876 mil cap hit in 2008.

Yeah, I've pretty much ceased worrying about the cap. It's a non-issue as far as I'm concerned. Most teams, and especially the Redskins, know how to bend it to their will.

[Riggo#44]

Washington (45) $136.270 million

Projected cap = $116 Million


Yawn...another thiny veiled, feeble The-Redskins-Will-Be-In-Cap-Hell next year attempt. We've been hearing this for 8 years now...how many times have we been in "cap hell?" None.

Nice try.

[mojobo]

hate to say it but Romo might be the type of player who would be worth the 2 1st rounders it takes to get him. If a team with a high draft pick doesn't want to take a chance on a young qb they could trade down and maybe get that 2nd pick.

[coolbeans]

Yawn...another thiny veiled, feeble The-Redskins-Will-Be-In-Cap-Hell next year attempt. We've been hearing this for 8 years now...how many times have we been in "cap hell?" None.

Nice try.

Not at all. I came across this info on another board and felt it was relevant info for any football fan to know. I can't help it where the teams actually fall on the list. I'm sure the skins have a bunch of bloated contracts that can be redone and I doubt they'll have any trouble getting under the cap and even signing a few free agents.

[coolbeans]

hate to say it but Romo might be the type of player who would be worth the 2 1st rounders it takes to get him. If a team with a high draft pick doesn't want to take a chance on a young qb they could trade down and maybe get that 2nd pick.

Even if that happened, Dallas would have a week to match the contract which they probably would do. Romo likes it in Dallas so I doubt he would sign one of those poison pill contracts that ensure the original team won't match. All this is most likely mute becuase they will get a deal done a some point this season.

[Riggo#44]

Not at all. I came across this info on another board and felt it was relevant info for any football fan to know. I can't help it where the teams actually fall on the list. I'm sure the skins have a bunch of bloated contracts that can be redone and I doubt they'll have any trouble getting under the cap and even signing a few free agents.

Right...and you would have posted it even if the Redskins had $40+ million in cap space... :rolleyes:

[Popeman38]

Not at all. I came across this info on another board and felt it was relevant info for any football fan to know. I can't help it where the teams actually fall on the list. I'm sure the skins have a bunch of bloated contracts that can be redone and I doubt they'll have any trouble getting under the cap and even signing a few free agents.And what sources did they cite as references? Or is this simply another "put a big number by the Redskins" that makes no mention of guarentees, conversions and bonuses. By now, the media "cap experts" should have wrapped their mind around how Dan Snyder makes every roster bonus open to conversion to a signing bonus that spreads the cap hit over several years. So that $136M is closer to $100M. Add in a few restructures and cuts of high priced vets and that number dips closer to $85M. Ans then we can sign 2 or 3 players to the 6 year/$30M contracts. Simple math really. All you have to do is understand the CBA.

[Veretax]

Dallas will have a hard time signing both first round picks next year unless they trade down :D

[coolbeans]

Right...and you would have posted it even if the Redskins had $40+ million in cap space... :rolleyes:

Yep, thats what I'm saying.

[coolbeans]

And what sources did they cite as references? Or is this simply another "put a big number by the Redskins" that makes no mention of guarentees, conversions and bonuses. By now, the media "cap experts" should have wrapped their mind around how Dan Snyder makes every roster bonus open to conversion to a signing bonus that spreads the cap hit over several years. So that $136M is closer to $100M. Add in a few restructures and cuts of high priced vets and that number dips closer to $85M. Ans then we can sign 2 or 3 players to the 6 year/$30M contracts. Simple math really. All you have to do is understand the CBA.

The info came from AdamJT13 who I'm sure everyone is well aware is always spot on when it comes to salary cap stuff. Most people think he must work in the league office or something. Like I said earlier, I'm sure the skins have plenty of manuvering room and will be fine.

[coolbeans]

Dallas will have a hard time signing both first round picks next year unless they trade down :D

I'd love to hear an explanation for this point of view.

[ttjhicks]

Yeah, I've pretty much ceased worrying about the cap. It's a non-issue as far as I'm concerned. Most teams, and especially the Redskins, know how to bend it to their will.

Skins still will have to pay for another seven players just to fill out their roster after clearing cap room. There are only 46 players under contract.

[jrockster21]

I'd love it if Dallas had all that money and Romo felt insulted at not getting an offseason blockbuster offer and peddled his wares at the end of the year.

He'd be stupid to do that. As much as I HATE to say it, being the successful starting QB for the Dallas Cowboys is probably the best job to have (unless you're a Skins, Eagles, Giants or Steelers fan). :)

[coolbeans]

Skins still will have to pay for another seven players just to fill out their roster after clearing cap room. There are only 46 players under contract.

Those guys will be league minimum guys and won't take much cap room.

[TheLongshot]

Those guys will be league minimum guys and won't take much cap room.

Actually, we are talking about 5 guys, because of the Rule of 51. Those guys are likely to be rookies or cheap FA.

I don't worry about the cap, since the team generally takes good care of that. There are definitely some guys that we can part with and some that we will restructure. The only FA of note next year is Suisham. I doubt we will be all that active in FA next year, since the strong needs talentwise are best addressed in the draft.

Jason

[Genghis Khan]

I have a feeling Corny Springs and brunell will all be gone next season. Maybe Corny will restructure.

[Riggo#44]

Yep, thats what I'm saying.

Right, and if Dallas was topping this list it would be posted all the same...

:bsflag:

[coolbeans]

Right, and if Dallas was topping this list it would be posted all the same...

:bsflag:

Yep!

[Hiawatha]

Yeah, I've pretty much ceased worrying about the cap. It's a non-issue as far as I'm concerned. Most teams, and especially the Redskins, know how to bend it to their will.

I have to agree. The cap is meaningless for the most part.

It is somewhat funny to see how much some teams have spent only to suck though, and to see some teams who spend far less who are good.

In the end, it all comes down to how well you draft. Good, young, cheap talent.

[cnhnyy]

If Romo keeps this up, a lot of teams will be willing to give up 2 No.1s to get him.


You can franchise him. However, if he is pissed off, he can go to Chicago/baltimore and bring a contract that girls can not match unless they let the other star players go.

If you have a young promising QB, you have to lock him up. Jerry Jones gambled and cowgirls either will have to pay way more or lose him.

[BigDFan5]

If Romo keeps this up, a lot of teams will be willing to give up 2 No.1s to get him.


You can franchise him. However, if he is pissed off, he can go to Chicago/baltimore and bring a contract that girls can not match unless they let the other star players go.

If you have a young promising QB, you have to lock him up. Jerry Jones gambled and cowgirls either will have to pay way more or lose him.

It wont come to franchising him since he will sign before that ever happens, but if it were to occur he would be given the exclusive franchise tag, meaning only Dallas can negotiate with him. No other team could even talk to him

[Seabee1973]

I have to agree. The cap is meaningless for the most part.

It is somewhat funny to see how much some teams have spent only to suck though, and to see some teams who spend far less who are good.

In the end, it all comes down to how well you draft. Good, young, cheap talent.


I dont think its meaningless. We always have to put more money into guareentees and stuff what happens when guys dont want to restructure like Springs and we cant cut him.

If we would draft smart for a few years and let this thing play out we could acguire the same players but pay them more up front.

[HOF44]

JJ has already stated that Romo will be franchised for the next 2 years if no deal is signed.

That just means if a team wants him they have to give up 2 first round picks.

That would be a price worth paying if Romo does as the Boy's fans think he can and lead them to a Super Bowl and be the MVP.

If he plays that kind of year I could see more than a couple teams meeting the 2 first round pick price and entering the negotiations. Young QB's in their prime a rarely available at any price.

[BigDFan5]

That just means if a team wants him they have to give up 2 first round picks.

That would be a price worth paying if Romo does as the Boy's fans think he can and lead them to a Super Bowl and be the MVP.

If he plays that kind of year I could see more than a couple teams meeting the 2 first round pick price and entering the negotiations. Young QB's in their prime a rarely available at any price.


As I said before they would not have the chance to give 2 picks. If he were franchised it would be exclusive where only Dallas could negotiate with him

[Alabama Man]

Did I miss something, why are a few of you redskins fans so sensitive about a generic post about the cap?

[DWinzit]

Cowboys had the whole off season to wrap up Romo long term. Why the heck didn't they sign him?

They committed to Romo by not drafting a QB and only bringing in Johnson as a backup. His worth increases with every successful outing!

[DWinzit]

Did I miss something, why are a few of you redskins fans so sensitive about a generic post about the cap?Most of us don't pay much attention to it at this point in the season. They have proven year in and out they can purchase FA's when they need them.

[Birdlives]

This info is out of date. Currently the Skins have 43 players commited next year for a total of $128.931.

[coolbeans]

Cowboys had the whole off season to wrap up Romo long term. Why the heck didn't they sign him?

They committed to Romo by not drafting a QB and only bringing in Johnson as a backup. His worth increases with every successful outing!

You don't think everyone knows this. JJ has already stated that he wanted Romo to prove this year that he is indeed the future and is worth giving a long term deal to. JJ has let it be known that if Romo does that, he will be more than happy to give him a big payday and the team has plenty of cap room to make it work. Basically, everyone wanted to see Romo respond. It was up to him to put in the time this offseason and go out a play like a franchise QB if he wanted to be paid like one. So far he has and if it continues for another 3-5 weeks, you will see contract talks heat up. He will probably get a deal slightly larger than Bulger got this year.

[coolbeans]

After reading this entire thread, I find it very interesting that soo many skins fans are now taking the position that Dallas screwed up by not signing Romo and that he will be worth 2 1st round picks on the open market. All offseason he was merely average and we should have drafted Quinn when we had the chance. I love the change in attitude, it means Romo must be doing something right.

[Seabee1973]

Most of us don't pay much attention to it at this point in the season. They have proven year in and out they can purchase FA's when they need them.


Do we really purchase free agents when we need them or is it just a myth? We could have used an upgrade at CB last year and didnt really pull nate clements We sure could have kept Dockery but wasnt able to

[DWinzit]

You don't think everyone knows this. JJ has already stated that he wanted Romo to prove this year that he is indeed the future and is worth giving a long term deal to. JJ has let it be known that if Romo does that, he will be more than happy to give him a big payday and the team has plenty of cap room to make it work. Basically, everyone wanted to see Romo respond. It was up to him to put in the time this offseason and go out a play like a franchise QB if he wanted to be paid like one. So far he has and if it continues for another 3-5 weeks, you will see contract talks heat up. He will probably get a deal slightly larger than Bulger got this year.Everyone knows that is what JJ has stated. Yet he continues to watch the pay scale raise.
Negotiating a contract mid-season creates distractions and sometimes rifts. Not usually the right way to go!

[DWinzit]

Do we really purchase free agents when we need them or is it just a myth? We could have used an upgrade at CB last year and didnt really pull nate clements We sure could have kept Dockery but wasnt able toThey had Carlos, Springs and felt Smoot was the answer. Many agreed with the moves.

[Seabee1973]

They had Carlos, Springs and felt Smoot was the answer. Many agreed with the moves.

They were pushing Springs to renegotiate which he didn't. If we dint go out and sign the 5 flavors of the year every season we could probably field a consistant winner year after year

[coolbeans]

Everyone knows that is what JJ has stated. Yet he continues to watch the pay scale raise.
Negotiating a contract mid-season creates distractions and sometimes rifts. Not usually the right way to go!

I'm curious as to what you think the better path woulld have been. Give Romo a long term big money deal after the way the season ended last year? Draft Quinn and let Romo go for nothing? Seems to me the only real play was to wait and see how Romo played this year and if he played well give him the deal. Especially after getting cleveland's 1st next year which could be used on a QB if Romo fails.

[BigDFan5]

Everyone knows that is what JJ has stated. Yet he continues to watch the pay scale raise.
Negotiating a contract mid-season creates distractions and sometimes rifts. Not usually the right way to go!

we have negotiated a few contracts mid season without a hint of problems. We arent negotiating with the Postons or Rosenhaus here. The deal will get done with no problems

[DWinzit]

I'm curious as to what you think the better path woulld have been. Give Romo a long term big money deal after the way the season ended last year? Draft Quinn and let Romo go for nothing? Seems to me the only real play was to wait and see how Romo played this year and if he played well give him the deal. Especially after getting cleveland's 1st next year which could be used on a QB if Romo fails.I'm not sure coolbeans, many players cop major attitudes if they don't get that contract done before their final year. You know, that "Show me the money" mentality. Dallas is at Romo and his agent mercy now that he is enjoying success.

As far as the draft goes, you let a potential QB go. By waiting until next years draft you run the risk of not having a QB available or one worthy. Surprising they didn't bring in another FA a little younger then Johnson.

Doesn't it seem a little scary you only have Romo and Johnson...What is Romo goes down for any length of time? Dallas would be in trouble.

[coolbeans]

I'm not sure coolbeans, many players cop major attitudes if they don't get that contract done before their final year. You know, that "Show me the money" mentality. Dallas is at Romo and his agent mercy now that he is enjoying success.

As far as the draft goes, you let a potential QB go. By waiting until next years draft you run the risk of not having a QB available or one worthy. Surprising they didn't bring in another FA a little younger then Johnson.

Doesn't it seem a little scary you only have Romo and Johnson...What is Romo goes down for any length of time? Dallas would be in trouble.


I agree that many players do take that attitude, but Romo has not as of yet. He has stated publically that he is grateful to JJ and the Cowboys that he was given a chance, allowed to develop, and extended for 2 years last year. He has also said that he is not at all worried about the contract, that he knows it will get done, and that he has no desire to leave Dallas. And yes, if he gets hurt, the team will suffer greatly. We all know that but you can't have everything. The team has faith in Johnson to hold down the fort for a few games if necessary. I expect that you will see a QB drafted in rounds 3-6 within the next 2 years to replace Johnson as the backup.

[DWinzit]

I agree that many players do take that attitude, but Romo has not as of yet. He has stated publically that he is grateful to JJ and the Cowboys that he was given a chance, allowed to develop, and extended for 2 years last year. He has also said that he is not at all worried about the contract, that he knows it will get done, and that he has no desire to leave Dallas. And yes, if he gets hurt, the team will suffer greatly. We all know that but you can't have everything. The team has faith in Johnson to hold down the fort for a few games if necessary.For JJ's sake, Romo best not be blowing smoke. Imagine the turmoil if Romo refused the offer. Then what make the guy pissed by franchising him?
I expect that you will see a QB drafted in rounds 3-6 within the next 2 years to replace Johnson as the backup.I agree, but think it will need to be this season even if Johnson stays a second season.

[Alabama Man]

Most of us don't pay much attention to it at this point in the season. They have proven year in and out they can purchase FA's when they need them.

Right but all he did was make a post.... and got attacked for it.

There was an obvious slant, coming form a few that read into that one, more then I would have, at least.

[FuriousD]

CAP COMMITMENT (with number of players under contract in parentheses)

Tennessee (34) $71.842 million

...and everyone in between...

Washington (45) $136.270 million


Whats really sad is that Tennessee is every bit as good as we are and probably better. :doh:

[cnhnyy]

Romo is saying all the right things but I bet he is not too happy right now without a contract. I mean, he is basically one hit away from going back to his old life of five years ago.

Cowgirls could have given him a contract exntension with incentivve.

You know, something like 5/40 with 5 M signing bonus. If he makes pro-bowl or cowboys make palyoff, he gets another 5 M. If he becomes MVP, or girls win SB, He gets another 5 M. So, if he is real deal, his contract is like 5/45M. If he is Brady/manning, his contract is 5/50.

If he sucked, his contract is like one-year 5 M deal.

[Soup]

JJ has already stated that Romo will be franchised for the next 2 years if no deal is signed.

who is JJ?:whoknows:

[coolbeans]

who is JJ?:whoknows:

Ummmm...........Jerry Jones.

[TheDoyler23]

Salary cap doesn't really exist. Its just a semi-fictional tool to keep payrolls in check. :silly:

[coolbeans]

Romo is saying all the right things but I bet he is not too happy right now without a contract. I mean, he is basically one hit away from going back to his old life of five years ago.

Cowgirls could have given him a contract exntension with incentivve.

You know, something like 5/40 with 5 M signing bonus. If he makes pro-bowl or cowboys make palyoff, he gets another 5 M. If he becomes MVP, or girls win SB, He gets another 5 M. So, if he is real deal, his contract is like 5/45M. If he is Brady/manning, his contract is 5/50.

If he sucked, his contract is like one-year 5 M deal.


You make it sound soo easy. I highly doubt Romo's agent would go for that. Also, Romo has a ton of confidence and he knows that if he plays well he is in for the big payday with $20-30 million guaranteed. No way would he have taken an incentive based deal with $5 million signing bonus. I find it interesting that skins fans seem to think they know Romo must be unhappy when he has stated many times that he isn't even thinking about it. He is concentrating on football and knows it will get done. Add in that everytime you see him he is laughing and joking around with teamates and reporters. He doesn't look like someone who is unhappy. Actually, its quite the opposite. I know skins fans may have some wishful thinking going on that somehow Romo will leave Dallas but it ain't happening. Jerry Jones has been looking for a franchise QB for 8-10 years now. He isn't going to let the 1st one he finds go. Keep dreaming!

[TonyRomoProBowl]

Right, and if Dallas was topping this list it would be posted all the same...

:bsflag:


Riiiiggo................wat up man, where you been. You dont seem to be posting much anymore......well not as much as you were the first two weeks of the season anyways......

[Riggo#44]

Riiiiggo................wat up man, where you been. You dont seem to be posting much anymore......well not as much as you were the first two weeks of the season anyways......

Combination of actually having work to do and not having too much to say, Redskins bye week, Dallas should steam roll St. Louis. They look really good right now, and my hat is off to them.

[BigDFan5]

Romo is saying all the right things but I bet he is not too happy right now without a contract. I mean, he is basically one hit away from going back to his old life of five years ago.

Cowgirls could have given him a contract exntension with incentivve.

You know, something like 5/40 with 5 M signing bonus. If he makes pro-bowl or cowboys make palyoff, he gets another 5 M. If he becomes MVP, or girls win SB, He gets another 5 M. So, if he is real deal, his contract is like 5/45M. If he is Brady/manning, his contract is 5/50.

If he sucked, his contract is like one-year 5 M deal.

no agent worth their salt would accept that

[ABQCOWBOY]

I'd love it if Dallas had all that money and Romo felt insulted at not getting an offseason blockbuster offer and peddled his wares at the end of the year.


LOL.......

Well, you can always right a letter to Santa.

:laugh:

[DWinzit]

LOL.......

Well, you can always right a letter to Santa.

:laugh:Ya never know until the contract is signed!:2cents:

[ABQCOWBOY]

Ya never know until the contract is signed!:2cents:


That's true. However, it is my experience in watching how Jerry does things, over the year, that when he is convinced of a players talent (Especially Quarterbacks), he gets them signed. What's more, he does it in such a way as to ensure they are happy to be where they are at.

There is no doubt in my mind that Jerry and Romo will get something done.

[coolbeans]

Jerry Jones just said on live TV on PTI that Tony Romo will be the QB of the Dallas Cowboys for a long time. That should put it to rest. He isn't letting him go anywhere.

[ABQCOWBOY]

If I were a Skinz fan, rather then trying to figure out a way to get Romo, I'd start thinking about how they could get Garrett as there next HC.

[phishisthegreatstuff]

hate to say it but Romo might be the type of player who would be worth the 2 1st rounders it takes to get him. If a team with a high draft pick doesn't want to take a chance on a young qb they could trade down and maybe get that 2nd pick.

Romo woth 2 first round draft picks?? are you nuts! very few players in this league are worth 2 first round draft picks. Romo isn't one of them.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Romo woth 2 first round draft picks?? are you nuts! very few players in this league are worth 2 first round draft picks. Romo isn't one of them.

LOL......

You know, it's funny. When Romo first joined the Cowboys, nobody thought he was worth the roster spot he was taking up. When the Cowboys signed Bledsoe and Henson, nobody thought he was worth a 4th rd pick. When Payton got the job at New Orleans, he didn't think he was worth a 1st rd pick. Now..............

I've learned not to sell Romo short. Everytime somebody does, he comes back and makes you pay for it.

[NewBlood81]

LOL......

You know, it's funny. When Romo first joined the Cowboys, nobody thought he was worth the roster spot he was taking up. When the Cowboys signed Bledsoe and Henson, nobody thought he was worth a 4th rd pick. When Payton got the job at New Orleans, he didn't think he was worth a 1st rd pick. Now..............

I've learned not to sell Romo short. Everytime somebody does, he comes back and makes you pay for it.

It's reported that he want in excess of 30 mil in garenteed money. How will the Cowboys pay him that kind of money and resign Newman, Ware, Owens and sign their two first rounders?

[ABQCOWBOY]

It's reported that he want in excess of 30 mil in garenteed money. How will the Cowboys pay him that kind of money and resign Newman, Ware, Owens and sign their two first rounders?


We are in very good shape with our cap. We will have to make some decisions but it's likely Adams and perhaps JJ will be gone next year. Johnson will come off the books the next year. Ware is not close to having his contract up yet. Newman will need to be signed and Owens, well, if he will not sign a reasonable contract, then he can go play for somebody else. You guys might have a spot for a guy like Owens.

;)

[DWinzit]

If I were a Skinz fan, rather then trying to figure out a way to get Romo, I'd start thinking about how they could get Garrett as there next HC.I thought Garrett was the next Dallas HC....Jerry's boy? And I'm just not seeing many Redskin fans looking towards Garrett.

[D-Day]

Skins still will have to pay for another seven players just to fill out their roster after clearing cap room. There are only 46 players under contract.

That is what rookies and vet min players are for. I find it amazing that we went from 124 mil in cap commitments next year to 136 mil after cutting some players and signing their replacements to one year vet min deals.

We are actually sitting at around 128 mil in cap commitments next year.

We have 10.32 mil in bonus money to be paid. Of that we will save at a minimum of 75% that amount by prorating it. We are at 120 mil before cuts and restructures.

Restructures prime (other possibles do exist such as pete kendall an Todd wade)

Washington - 4.425
Thomas - 5.380
Samuels - 4.5
Moss - 3.25
Portis - 5.049
Rabach - 2.750
jansen - 4.98
Rabach - 4.2

So if we did restructure these with extremely conservative 50% savings.

17.267 savings which puts us at around 103 mil

Most likely cuts
Daniels - Reg cut saves 3 mil if before his roster bonus is paid.
Brunnel - Reg cut saves 3.1 mil
Springs - Reg cut saves 2.5 mil

savings puts us at 8.6 mil more in savings for a cap number of 94 mil or 22 mil under with 42 players under contract with.

Two of those to sign are the punter and kicker.

We are fine.

BTW for ****s and giggles.

If all that played out

Cut BL = 6.332 in outstanding bonus money, he is due 1.8 in some type of bonus money this year. So if that is unpaid then it will cost us 3.9 mil to cut him next year as a regular cut.

If that bonus is guaranteed then it will cost us 5.7 mil to cut him but then we would just June 1st him.

BYE BYE BL, better start catching the damn ball, or we could try to actually throw it him :doh:

So conservatively we can easily be at 99 mil with 12 players and 17 mil to sign. Two of those will be relatively cheap draft picks (2nd and 3rd rounder) and our first will most likely at most be in the middle of the round.

Plenty of cap space and this is actually the best situation we have been in, in quite some time. For instance as of right now we only have 1.854 mil in dead cap next year, compared to 9.058 this year.

[Riggo#44]

I thought Garrett was the next Dallas HC....Jerry's boy? And I'm just not seeing many Redskin fans looking towards Garrett.

AFter the Turner debacle, I staunchly refuse to advocate for any Dallas coach becoming a Skins coach.

My choice is actually Russ Grimm.

[TonyRomoProBowl]

AFter the Turner debacle, I staunchly refuse to advocate for any Dallas coach becoming a Skins coach.

My choice is actually Russ Grimm.


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Riggo your on point, Grimm could lead this team to great places.....it pains me to say so, but its true. I hope Saunders or Williams takes over next year...that'll give 3 more years of average play in Washington

[Riggo#44]

:applause:

Riggo your on point, Grimm could lead this team to great places.....it pains me to say so, but its true. I hope Saunders or Williams takes over next year...that'll give 3 more years of average play in Washington

I'd actually like to see Saunders and Williams stay, although it's unlikely. I do not want Williams has HC.

[ABQCOWBOY]

I thought Garrett was the next Dallas HC....Jerry's boy? And I'm just not seeing many Redskin fans looking towards Garrett.

I think he is the next HC of the Dallas Cowboys if he chooses to be such. If the Cowboys do well this year, there will be teams out there looking at Garrett as a HC. I don't see Garrett becoming a HC in Dallas for two or three years. The question would be, does Garrett wait that long?

I don't know?

[ABQCOWBOY]

AFter the Turner debacle, I staunchly refuse to advocate for any Dallas coach becoming a Skins coach.

My choice is actually Russ Grimm.

Nobody is happier to hear this then me. I hope your front office feels the same. I believe that Garrett is going to be a heck of a HC in this league. I would hate to see him end up in the East or really, anywhere else but Dallas. You just keep thinking just that way Riggo.

:applause:

[Riggo#44]

Nobody is happier to hear this then me. I hope your front office feels the same. I believe that Garrett is going to be a heck of a HC in this league. I would hate to see him end up in the East or really, anywhere else but Dallas. You just keep thinking just that way Riggo.

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That's what they said about Turner, so keep thinking that way ABQ. And didn't Sean Payton get relieved of play calling duties in New York? How'd he turn out as a coach?

So just b/c he's a good OC (after 3 games), that doesnt mean he's the next great HC!

[ABQCOWBOY]

That's what they said about Turner, so keep thinking that way ABQ. And didn't Sean Payton get relieved of play calling duties in New York? How'd he turn out as a coach?

So just b/c he's a good OC (after 3 games), that doesnt mean he's the next great HC!


No. That's what you guys said about Turner. I always had my doubts about his ability to be a HC. As a coordinator, he's as good as you get. As a HC, well, that was your call. As for Payton, the jury is out. We could have kept Payton had we choosen to do so. We may live to regrete that but I suspect that Jerry had Garrett in mind the whole way and that's why Payton was not brought in. Like I say, I'm fine with you not being interested in Garrett. I hope Danny shares your point of view.

[pjfootballer]

Another stupid thread by a stupid Dallass fan. Go on a date with your goat and stop hanging around here.

[HOF88]

JJ has already stated that Romo will be franchised for the next 2 years if no deal is signed.

You gotta Link for that? I have heard Commentators mention that as an option, but never Jerry Jones...

http://www.dallascowboys.com/images/romo3_092307_360.jpg

MAESTRO, MUSIC IF YOU PLEASE....

[pjfootballer]

I'm on record as a Redskins fan saying that in no unconditional terms do I want Saunders or Williams to be the head coach when Gibbs leaves. Saunders is too old and Williams rubs his players the wrong way.

I also don't want Grimm as the next head coach. He's never been an offensive coordinator and quite frankly I think he'd try to carry on the tradition of 80's Redskins football, which is where we are now. Bring him in to replace Bugel? Obsolutely.

Garrett? Don't know about this one. On one hand, the take a good Dallass coodinator as head coach experiment failed once before. even though he has a bright mind for football, do we have the right personnel for him to just come in and make us a juggernaut.

I'd rather go for a Mike Tomlin type guy who knows the game and will hire an offensive and defensive coodinators to do their jobs. We need our own identity and we need a new direction once Gibbs leaves. I'm tired of being a smashmouth football team. I want a little more pizzaz and swagger.