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BigDFan5
September-26th-2007, 05:14 PM
Currently ranked #8, no worries they wont be there long. :D

Soup
September-26th-2007, 05:30 PM
why is this here?

Who Del
September-26th-2007, 05:46 PM
Damn! That number 12, 22 and 31 offense must be hard as **** to defend!!!

Hiawatha
September-26th-2007, 05:57 PM
Surprising, I didn't know that.

SkinsHokieFan
September-26th-2007, 06:06 PM
Validtion seeking has been taken to a new level by Cowgirl fans so far this season

tr1
September-26th-2007, 06:09 PM
Don't Believe the Numbers: The Rams Defense Isn't Good

Tom MantzouranisPosted Sep 26th 2007 10:48AM by Tom Mantzouranis
Filed under: Rams, NFC West, St. Louis
http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/09/26/dont-believe-the-numbers-the-rams-defense-isnt-good/

Jim Haslett thinks his defense is really doing a swell job. No, really, he totally does. Stop laughing.

"I told our guys, we've got to look at the positive," Haslett said. "I look at the yardage racked up in this league (Sunday), and there's 500 yards, 600, 400. Look at the good stuff: You're seventh in the league in defense. I know it's early, but you couldn't say that the last couple of years. So, build on that."

Yes, the Rams are, in fact, seventh in the league in yardage allowed, only yielding 298.3 yards per game. But looking at that number and thinking the Rams' defense is getting the job done is like looking at the 2006 Bears' record and thinking Rex Grossman actually resembled an adequate quarterback.

...

tr1
September-26th-2007, 06:10 PM
Validtion seeking has been taken to a new level by Cowgirl fans so far this season

I'm thinking their collective penises (peni?!) are woefully too small...

Bacon
September-26th-2007, 06:12 PM
Validtion seeking has been taken to a new level by Cowgirl fans so far this season

*Pats BigDFan5 on the back for a job well done*

Now can you guys pack it up and go home? :D

coolbeans
September-26th-2007, 06:33 PM
Validtion seeking has been taken to a new level by Cowgirl fans so far this season

Maybe so but we still have a long ways to go to reach the level of denial skins fans have reached.

BigDFan5
September-26th-2007, 07:18 PM
Surprising, I didn't know that.

Its a mi8rage, their defense is ranked high because nobody passes on them because they have one of the worst run defenses in the league. Just goes to show you how little the defensive ranking based on yards means

BigDFan5
September-26th-2007, 07:20 PM
Validtion seeking has been taken to a new level by Cowgirl fans so far this season


psssst it was sarcasm, dont tell nobody

THEHEREAFTER
September-26th-2007, 07:49 PM
BigD ... tr1 doesn't like it when you mock him.... especially when you make him look silly.

tr1
September-26th-2007, 08:07 PM
BigD ... tr1 doesn't like it when you mock him.... especially when you make him look silly.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

THA back for comic relief... :laugh:

Still believe the Bears are a good team, eh?

I thought you followed football.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

THEHEREAFTER
September-26th-2007, 08:14 PM
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

THA back for comic relief... :laugh:

Still believe the Bears are a good team, eh?

I thought you followed football.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

They're a tough defense especially at home. They have a great special teams and talent on offense except for the QB position.

TEK2000
September-26th-2007, 09:13 PM
TR1 says "They AREN'T who you thought they were!!!!"

NewBlood81
September-26th-2007, 10:17 PM
The Rams appear to have a good ranked defense but if you look watched their games you would think otherwise.

Merlin Emrys
September-26th-2007, 10:38 PM
TR1 says "They AREN'T who you thought they were!!!!"

ES fans say Cownut fans "are who we thought they were."

Bacon
September-26th-2007, 11:15 PM
and talent on offense except for the QB position.

Are you absolutely sure about that? I would say having mediocre-to-terrible QBs, RBs (they really should have kept Thomas Jones), and WRs would kind of prevent them from being called talented. Guess not.

And the Bears used to (or should) have a great defense, but now it's just decent, thanks to their injuries. By the same token, the Rams should have a great offense, but don't, thanks to the fact that their entire offensive line is made up of (formerly rickshaw-toting) derelicts because of their injuries.

You guys should be thanking your lucky star(s) that you're still allowed to play teams recently admitted to the convalescent home.

Triple Threat
September-26th-2007, 11:18 PM
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

THA back for comic relief... :laugh:

Still believe the Bears are a good team, eh?

I thought you followed football.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:



"Also, in your glee over last weekend, let me point out a couple of things: 1) the Giants defense sucks...too old, too many injuries, bad coaching"

TR1 do you still believe the Giants Defense sucks?

paloosa
September-26th-2007, 11:33 PM
Its a mi8rage, their defense is ranked high because nobody passes on them because they have one of the worst run defenses in the league. Just goes to show you how little the defensive ranking based on yards means

Well they don't have to worry about Dallas' run game because it isn't that great. That is why they pass all the time. Barber and Jones are not that good. Most of their yardage has come in garbage time. So we will see if it is true or not.

BigDFan5
September-27th-2007, 12:25 AM
Well they don't have to worry about Dallas' run game because it isn't that great. That is why they pass all the time. Barber and Jones are not that good. Most of their yardage has come in garbage time. So we will see if it is true or not.

havent seen many Cowboys games this year? we are top 5 in rushing and lead the NFL in rushing TDs

taylorcoreskin
September-27th-2007, 12:29 AM
havent seen many Cowboys games this year? we are top 5 in rushing and lead the NFL in rushing TDs

Not to mention Tony Romo being an elite QB in the NFC. ****ing cowboys and their amazing offense.

GodsTeam
September-27th-2007, 04:29 AM
Validtion seeking has been taken to a new level by Cowgirl fans so far this season

I dont think it is validation seeking..I think it is confrontation seeking...from what I have seen anyways..also, Cowboy fans like baiting the TR1 robot..yours truly not included..im a lover..not a fighter...peace:)

THEHEREAFTER
September-27th-2007, 05:57 AM
:excited: :excited: "Camp Cupcake" "Club Wade" "Club Wade" :laugh:

tr1
September-27th-2007, 06:08 AM
:excited: :excited: "Camp Cupcake" "Club Wade" "Club Wade" :laugh:

Weren't the pukes 6-3 last year and headed for the SB? :laugh:

There are 13 games left. You've played only bad teams. ;)

tr1
September-27th-2007, 06:11 AM
..also, Cowboy fans like baiting the TR1 robot..

You are kidding, right? :laugh: :laugh:

The puke nation is the neediest of needy when it comes to validating their team. Every year, at the end of the year, they go into this dreadful slide...and then fail to win even ONE playoff game.

When you guys go deep into the playoffs, you can gloat.

Until then, frankly, you've got nothing.

You have a cupcake schedule right now...life changes after week five.

tr1
September-27th-2007, 06:12 AM
havent seen many Cowboys games this year? we are top 5 in rushing and lead the NFL in rushing TDs

What good defense have you played?

tr1
September-27th-2007, 06:14 AM
They're a tough defense especially at home. They have a great special teams and talent on offense except for the QB position.

They are an illusion. Try to puff them up as much as you can, but the fact is their defense is not what it was last year...and their offense is one of the worst in the NFL...

You beat a loser...good for you... :laugh:

BigDFan5
September-27th-2007, 07:13 AM
What good defense have you played?

:laugh:

tr1
September-27th-2007, 08:04 AM
:laugh:

Answer: You haven't played a good defense. :D

SkinsFTW
September-27th-2007, 08:17 AM
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BigDFan5
September-27th-2007, 08:33 AM
Answer: You haven't played a good defense. :D


Sorry tr1 you are alone in saying the Bears defense is not good.

Now the next couple weeks they may struggle because of all the guys they lost in the Dallas game. But when we played them mostly healthy they had a great D, and everyone knows it

dogunwo
September-27th-2007, 01:36 PM
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

THA back for comic relief... :laugh:

Still believe the Bears are a good team, eh?

I thought you followed football.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
When the Bears smash the Redskins, will you still be spouting that?

He Hate Me
September-27th-2007, 02:01 PM
TR1 says "They AREN'T who you thought they were!!!!"

:laugh: :laugh:

Too bad the skins dont play the Bears next...

He Hate Me
September-27th-2007, 02:11 PM
Answer: You haven't played a good defense. :D

So did the Giants defense (yes, the one the Cowboys scored 45 points on) get a lot better before they held your teams offense in check?

Riggo#44
September-27th-2007, 02:36 PM
So did the Giants defense (yes, the one the Cowboys scored 45 points on) get a lot better before they held your teams offense in check?

And that same Giants team shredded the Dallas defense for 438 yards, 123 more yards then the Redskins gave up. What's your point?

I'd say both teams have gaping holes to fill. Dallas played very well. They usually do in September/October.

And, yes the Skins s- the bed against the Giants and should have won that game. The let it get away. Dallas's defense will cause this to happen to them too -- sooner or later, usually in the 2nd half of the season.

He Hate Me
September-27th-2007, 03:17 PM
And that same Giants team shredded the Dallas defense for 438 yards, 123 more yards then the Redskins gave up. What's your point?

I'd say both teams have gaping holes to fill. Dallas played very well. They usually do in September/October.

And, yes the Skins s- the bed against the Giants and should have won that game. The let it get away. Dallas's defense will cause this to happen to them too -- sooner or later, usually in the 2nd half of the season.

My point is that the Cowboys offense put up much better numbers than the skins against a Giants defense that that isnt supposed to be good (according to TR1). To me, if he's saying the Giants defense sucks, then he's saying the same about the skins offense since they couldnt do anything against them. I didnt find it necessary to include any information about the Cowboys defense (which I know looked horrible against the Giants) since his question/statement had nothing to do with it.

I agree that both teams have gaping holes to fill. The Cowboys need to improve on the defensive side of the ball, but have already shown improvement every week. It WILL improve even more when Newman returns to 100%.

Hopefully both teams fill those holes before they meet in November so neither will have an excuse.

:cheers:

TonyRomoProBowl
September-27th-2007, 03:21 PM
And that same Giants team shredded the Dallas defense for 438 yards, 123 more yards then the Redskins gave up. What's your point?

I'd say both teams have gaping holes to fill. Dallas played very well. They usually do in September/October.

And, yes the Skins s- the bed against the Giants and should have won that game. The let it get away. Dallas's defense will cause this to happen to them too -- sooner or later, usually in the 2nd half of the season.


thats the riggo I know. Way to change the topic to the Dallas Defense. Like He Hate Me said just b4 me. But Riggo, I know your feeling a bit down after the Giant explsion....you were one of the most popular to say " the Giants D stunk and the Skins would rip them apart".....and JC was going to do what as you said??? 250 and 2 TD"s and Cooley would go off because the Giants didnt cover TE's........face it, like i have said a thiousand times to you....the Cowboys Off, is WAY better then the Skins!

Ellis
September-27th-2007, 04:24 PM
Sunday... October 14th...
Patriots will beat Dallas...

World will rejoice...
Jesus will come back...

tr1
September-27th-2007, 04:59 PM
Sorry tr1 you are alone in saying the Bears defense is not good.

Sorry, but you're wrong. In fact, many are taking my view that the Bears were overrated at the beginning of the season for obvious reasons...Walker is not an adequate replacement in the D-Line, and, please tell me you don't think AA is a joke.

Compound that with the injuries suffered during the first two weeks, and everyone can see that the pukes vs Chicago game was hyped beyond belief.

You're also overlooking that the one thing that kept Rex on life support last year, Thomas Jones, is on the Jets.

I think everyone was beginning to re-think the Bears before the puke game.

Hey, the pukes are beating bad teams...you should be pleased... ;)

coolbeans
September-27th-2007, 05:12 PM
Sorry, but you're wrong. In fact, many are taking my view that the Bears were overrated at the beginning of the season for obvious reasons...Walker is not an adequate replacement in the D-Line, and, please tell me you don't think AA is a joke.

Compound that with the injuries suffered during the first two weeks, and everyone can see that the pukes vs Chicago game was hyped beyond belief.

You're also overlooking that the one thing that kept Rex on life support last year, Thomas Jones, is on the Jets.

I think everyone was beginning to re-think the Bears before the puke game.

Hey, the pukes are beating bad teams...you should be pleased... ;)



Thats funny, I could have sworn you posted an article shortly after the Cowboys signed Tank that proclaimed Walker as superior to Tank. You love to talk about injuries for each team Dallas plays but never seem to want to acknowledge that the Cowboys have been playing without Ellis, Newman, and Ferguson. Thats 3 of the top 4 defensive players. That negates any injury to other teams. You also give no credit to the fact that the defense will most certainly get better when those players are back and they get a little more experience in a new system. Phillips has stated that they are still working on what coverages work best in different situations with the personel they have to work with. When they get it down, they will be much better. They have gotten better each week and that should continue.

BigDFan5
September-27th-2007, 05:21 PM
Sorry, but you're wrong. In fact, many are taking my view that the Bears were overrated at the beginning of the season for obvious reasons...Walker is not an adequate replacement in the D-Line, and, please tell me you don't think AA is a joke.

Compound that with the injuries suffered during the first two weeks, and everyone can see that the pukes vs Chicago game was hyped beyond belief.

You're also overlooking that the one thing that kept Rex on life support last year, Thomas Jones, is on the Jets.

I think everyone was beginning to re-think the Bears before the puke game.

Hey, the pukes are beating bad teams...you should be pleased... ;)

Lets see the proof tr1, show me some articles from BEFORE the Cowboys played them saying their D was bad or overrated

EverydayFan80
September-27th-2007, 09:12 PM
The Rams will come out tough but Dallas will put the hurt on them!

TEK2000
September-27th-2007, 09:13 PM
Sorry, but you're wrong. In fact, many are taking my view that the Bears were overrated at the beginning of the season for obvious reasons...Walker is not an adequate replacement in the D-Line, and, please tell me you don't think AA is a joke.

Compound that with the injuries suffered during the first two weeks, and everyone can see that the pukes vs Chicago game was hyped beyond belief.

You're also overlooking that the one thing that kept Rex on life support last year, Thomas Jones, is on the Jets.

I think everyone was beginning to re-think the Bears before the puke game.

Hey, the pukes are beating bad teams...you should be pleased... ;)

No complaints here.. beating "bad" teams soundly is much better than losing to or struggling to beat bad teams.

Riggo#44
September-28th-2007, 07:55 AM
No complaints here.. beating "bad" teams soundly is much better than losing to or struggling to beat bad teams.

Don't worry, they will. Dallas always starts out fast, and well, we know what's happened every year for the last 4 come December don't we?

Terence Newman 41
September-28th-2007, 08:03 AM
Don't worry, they will. Dallas always starts out fast, and well, we know what's happened every year for the last 4 come December don't we?

That is true. But in all 3 games thus far, we have been close in the game they make a push and we don't back down. Something we lacked the past few seasons.

SkinsFTW
September-28th-2007, 08:47 AM
Don't worry, they will. Dallas always starts out fast, and well, we know what's happened every year for the last 4 come December don't we?
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bubba9497
September-28th-2007, 09:04 AM
THA lack of conditioning hurts teams in Dec & Jan



you better worry about your defense allowing so many yards to bad offenses the past two weeks

bubba9497
September-28th-2007, 09:13 AM
Don't worry, they will. Dallas always starts out fast, and well, we know what's happened every year for the last 4 come December don't we?



the last 5 games each season (5) of teams he coached TC


combined record

12-13

playoffs record

0-3

He Hate Me
September-28th-2007, 09:38 AM
THA lack of conditioning hurts teams in Dec & Jan



you better worry about your defense allowing so many yards to bad offenses the past two weeks

We need to worry? Lets look a bit closer...

Last week against the Bears we gave up 239 total net yards (195 passing). The skins gave up 315 net yards (232 passing).

Advantage: Cowboys

The week before we gave up 334 net yards (287 passing). The skins gave up 340 net yards (240 passing).

Advantage: Cowboys (slightly)

Seems the Cowboys arent the only ones that need to worry about the "lack of conditioning"...

He Hate Me
September-28th-2007, 09:40 AM
Oh, I forgot to mention...

Your defense has been on the field for more time than the Cowboys D (skins: 93:27; Cowboys: 81:39), so that could be a factor later in the season as well.

He Hate Me
September-28th-2007, 09:41 AM
the last 5 games each season (5) of teams he coached TC


combined record

12-13

playoffs record

0-3

Coach Gibbs record last season

5-11


Whats that got to do with anything?

TonyRomoProBowl
September-28th-2007, 09:42 AM
Oh, I forgot to mention...

Your defense has been on the field for more time than the Cowboys D (skins: 93:27; Cowboys: 81:39), so that could be a factor later in the season as well.


nice usage of some facts.......way to hit em up!

Riggo#44
September-28th-2007, 10:02 AM
We need to worry? Lets look a bit closer...

Last week against the Bears we gave up 239 total net yards (195 passing). The skins gave up 315 net yards (232 passing).

Advantage: Cowboys

The week before we gave up 334 net yards (287 passing). The skins gave up 340 net yards (240 passing).

Advantage: Cowboys (slightly)

Seems the Cowboys arent the only ones that need to worry about the "lack of conditioning"...

Lets compare apples and apples here shall we?

Giants vs. The Redskins: 315 net yards.
Giants vs. The Cowboys: 438 net yards.

Dolphins vs. Redskins: 273 net yards.
Dolphins vs. Cowboys: 334 net yards.

Get this weak assed crap outta here!!

coolbeans
September-28th-2007, 10:12 AM
Theres no doubt the skins D has played better thus far but skins fans will not acknowledge that Dallas has been without 3 of its top 4 defenders. Two will be back shortly and they have a replacement coming for the 3rd. Add in that they have improved each game and its very clear the D will improve and could be very strong for the 2nd half. However, according to skins fans, they suck and have no opportunity to improve. We will see as the season unfolds.

Riggo#44
September-28th-2007, 10:14 AM
Theres no doubt the skins D has played better thus far but skins fans will not acknowledge that Dallas has been without 3 of its top 4 defenders. Two will be back shortly and they have a replacement coming for the 3rd. Add in that they have improved each game and its very clear the D will improve and could be very strong for the 2nd half. However, according to skins fans, they suck and have no opportunity to improve. We will see as the season unfolds.

Oh I see, it's the injuries for the Cowboys defense. But the Redskins offense sucks, depsite having the right side of the offensive line hurt. And losing an offensive lineman that is better then anyone the Cowboys have in Randy Thomas.

Gotcha

psst -- the Cowboys defense blew last year and they were completely healthy...keep hoping Newman comes back 100%...same with Ellis

Alabama Man
September-28th-2007, 10:26 AM
You are kidding, right? :laugh: :laugh:

The puke nation is the neediest of needy when it comes to validating their team. Every year, at the end of the year, they go into this dreadful slide...and then fail to win even ONE playoff game.

When you guys go deep into the playoffs, you can gloat.

Until then, frankly, you've got nothing.

You have a cupcake schedule right now...life changes after week five.

If you followed your own advice, you wouldnt even own a computer.

He Hate Me
September-28th-2007, 10:27 AM
Lets compare apples and apples here shall we?

Giants vs. The Redskins: 315 net yards.
Giants vs. The Cowboys: 438 net yards.

Dolphins vs. Redskins: 273 net yards.
Dolphins vs. Cowboys: 334 net yards.

Get this weak assed crap outta here!!

The "apples to apples" comparison is irrelevant because my original reply was made to bubba's statement about how we need to worry about our defense allowing so many yards because it will contribute to losses later due to lack of conditioning.

I was not saying the Cowboys D is playing the same teams better than the skins defense. You should possibly read before claiming anything as "weak assed".

ABQCOWBOY
September-28th-2007, 10:48 AM
Lets compare apples and apples here shall we?

Giants vs. The Redskins: 315 net yards.
Giants vs. The Cowboys: 438 net yards.

Dolphins vs. Redskins: 273 net yards.
Dolphins vs. Cowboys: 334 net yards.

Get this weak assed crap outta here!!

Apples to Apples would be as Follows:

Giants vs Redskins. Redskins Loss
Giants vs Cowboys Cowboys Win

Dolphins vs Redskins Redskins Win
Dolphins vs Cowboys Cowboys Win

You were lucky to get a win out of Miami but you managed.

In the end, 3-0 vs 2-1. Thats the only comparison that matters in the NFL.

Riggo#44
September-28th-2007, 10:49 AM
The "apples to apples" comparison is irrelevant because my original reply was made to bubba's statement about how we need to worry about our defense allowing so many yards because it will contribute to losses later due to lack of conditioning.

I was not saying the Cowboys D is playing the same teams better than the skins defense. You should possibly read before claiming anything as "weak assed".

So what do the Redskins giving up yards to better offenses then the Cowboys faced have to do with anything??

Typical Cowboys fan response, their weakness gets pointed out, instead of actually addressing the question, they point the finger at the Redskins.

Riggo#44
September-28th-2007, 10:56 AM
Apples to Apples would be as Follows:

Giants vs Redskins. Redskins Loss
Giants vs Cowboys Cowboys Win

Dolphins vs Redskins Redskins Win
Dolphins vs Cowboys Cowboys Win

You were lucky to get a win out of Miami but you managed.

In the end, 3-0 vs 2-1. Thats the only comparison that matters in the NFL.

Nice change of direction rather then face the issue.

But since you did, and for the umpteenth time, yes the Skins should have won. And yes the Cowboys are playing well. BUT their offense is the bright-shiny object that is distracting from a woeful defense.

Point fingers all you want at the Skins, it doesn't change the fact that the Cowboys STILL have questions. And that defense will cost them games that they should win.

So enjoy it. They will probably be 5-0.

He Hate Me
September-28th-2007, 10:56 AM
So what do the Redskins giving up yards to better offenses then the Cowboys faced have to do with anything??

Typical Cowboys fan response, their weakness gets pointed out, instead of actually addressing the question, they point the finger at the Redskins.

Remind me of how I didnt address the "question" (it was actually a statement)...

bubba said we need to worry because we have given up a lot of yards the past 2 weeks. My reply showed the skins have, in fact, given up more yards the last 2 weeks than the Cowboys have.

It's pretty simple... but for some reason I get the feeling you will need it explained to you again...

bubba9497
September-28th-2007, 10:59 AM
Coach Gibbs record last season

5-11


Whats that got to do with anything?

wow a well thought intelleigent respone


NOT


Since THA was mocking Camp Cupcake, Club Wade... I was pointing out correctly, poor conditioning in TC, leads to poor performances in the months when it counts

December and January, Wades teams are below 500 in those stretch of games, and 0-3 in the playoffs


you want to bring up Coach Gibbs record in December and January?

even with Gibbs II he has one of the best ever winning percentages in those two months, and his playoff record speaks for itself.... heck just his second tenure alone he is 9-6 and 1-1 in the playoffs and considering he had two losing seasons, his first year rebuilding, and the QB change last year that is pretty impressive in it's self

as the old saying goes... it's not how you start it is how you finish, Poke fans of all team fans should know that by now :laugh:

TonyRomoProBowl
September-28th-2007, 11:02 AM
Nice change of direction rather then face the issue.

But since you did, and for the umpteenth time, yes the Skins should have won. And yes the Cowboys are playing well. BUT their offense is the bright-shiny object that is distracting from a woeful defense.

Point fingers all you want at the Skins, it doesn't change the fact that the Cowboys STILL have questions. And that defense will cost them games that they should win.

So enjoy it. They will probably be 5-0.


Riggo....the Dallas Def is not playing really good ball, but they have done better each week. thats improvment and they are getting healthy. I could see them playing at a good enough level to win games for them even if the Off is not putting 38 on the board.

Some say that 3 games is way too early to tell if Romo or the Dallas Cowboy off. is really that good, cant the same be said on the other side of the ball....maybe 3 games is too early to tell and the Skins Def is not as good as advertised at this point.

And we can bash the Dallas D untill we are all blue in the face, but they have 10 take aways in 3 games......thats pretty darn good. I know that they are not getting the sacks that we all (Dallas fans) thought we would at this point....but we are getting alot of QB pressure and they are damn good at getting the ball in their hands. Best in the NFL to tell the truth, so hey, I would take a Def that gives up 350 but gets 4 turnovers, before i would take a def that gives up 250 and gets 0 turnovers.

TonyRomoProBowl
September-28th-2007, 11:04 AM
wow a well thought intelleigent respone


NOT


Since THA was mocking Camp Cupcake, Club Wade... I was pointing out correctly, poor conditioning in TC, leads to poor performances in the months when it counts

December and January, Wades teams are below 500 in those stretch of games, and 0-3 in the playoffs


you want to bring up Coach Gibbs record in December and January?

even with Gibbs II he has one of the best ever winning percentages in those two months, and his playoff record speaks for itself.... heck just his second tenure alone he is 9-6 and 1-1 in the playoffs and considering he had two losing seasons, his first year rebuilding, and the QB change last year that is pretty impressive in it's self

as the old saying goes... it's not how you start it is how you finish, Poke fans of all team fans should know that by now :laugh:


Good point Bubba, I have always been impressed with Gibbs and his late season record. That speaks loud for him as a H.C........We have no idea if Dallas is going to have that problem this year, we can assume so, but there is no garuntee of it.

ABQCOWBOY
September-28th-2007, 11:16 AM
Nice change of direction rather then face the issue.

But since you did, and for the umpteenth time, yes the Skins should have won. And yes the Cowboys are playing well. BUT their offense is the bright-shiny object that is distracting from a woeful defense.

Point fingers all you want at the Skins, it doesn't change the fact that the Cowboys STILL have questions. And that defense will cost them games that they should win.

So enjoy it. They will probably be 5-0.

Skins should not have won that game IMO. That was a luck catch towards the end IMO. No matter, you won and that's all that counts in the NFL. See, that's the real issue here. You can throw all the stats in the world out there but in the end, it's Ls and Ws. Call it miss direction if you wish. I think of it as clearing the smoke from the room to see what's really there. Call it miss direction, call it point fingers, call it whatever you want. In the end, you will see us twice and we will find out what's real and what's not. I don't like the way our defense played early but they have continued to improve and as people get healthy, they will be even better IMO. Till then, we have to win games with the Offense. That's fine. We will see what happens as the year goes on and as you know, I will not be hard to find.

Riggo#44
September-28th-2007, 12:06 PM
Skins should not have won that game IMO. That was a luck catch towards the end IMO. No matter, you won and that's all that counts in the NFL. See, that's the real issue here. You can throw all the stats in the world out there but in the end, it's Ls and Ws. Call it miss direction if you wish. I think of it as clearing the smoke from the room to see what's really there. Call it miss direction, call it point fingers, call it whatever you want. In the end, you will see us twice and we will find out what's real and what's not. I don't like the way our defense played early but they have continued to improve and as people get healthy, they will be even better IMO. Till then, we have to win games with the Offense. That's fine. We will see what happens as the year goes on and as you know, I will not be hard to find.

I will call it misdirection, and I will also call it playing 2 crappy offenses.

tr1
September-28th-2007, 12:14 PM
... we can assume so...

Assume? Ha!

TRPB, always good for a giggle... :laugh:

ABQCOWBOY
September-28th-2007, 12:24 PM
I will call it misdirection, and I will also call it playing 2 crappy offenses.


Wins and Losses Riggo, that's what it's about and no amount of what you call one thing or another is going to change that fact.

Fortunatly for you, the Skinz will have an opportunity to play us twice this year. That should clear up any questions, one way or the other.

I look forward to it. I know you do too. Lets just not be strangers once those games are played. I'll take my medicine if your team is able to serve it up. You take yours if the reverse is true.

Deal?

Riggo#44
September-28th-2007, 12:27 PM
Wins and Losses Riggo, that's what it's about and no amount of what you call one thing or another is going to change that fact.

yes it is, and Dallas will have their fair share of head-bashing losses.

Fortunatly for you, the Skinz will have an opportunity to play us twice this year. That should clear up any questions, one way or the other.

I look forward to it. I know you do too. Lets just not be strangers once those games are played. I'll take my medicine if your team is able to serve it up. You take yours if the reverse is true.

Deal?

I'll be here, don't you worry. I fully expect a home-and-home split this year. I expect to split with all NFCE teams.

ABQCOWBOY
September-28th-2007, 12:29 PM
yes it is, and Dallas will have their fair share of head-bashing losses.



I'll be here, don't you worry. I fully expect a home-and-home split this year. I expect to split with all NFCE teams.


I guess that depends on what you consider fair. Time is the ultimate judge of that.

But I will make this vow. I will not be a stranger and I will not go silent. I will be here to give or get, whichever it may be.

That's a deal.