Vilandil Tasardur
September-27th-2007, 09:12 PM
I just thought I'd take a quick look at the NFL's history and how the superbowls seem to be working. What I intend to do is break down good teams when they had very good runs or windows of opportunity, and then try and see how long it took these teams to return to the super bowl after their original dynasty had shut and they were forced to look for a new window. Lets start with the old:
In 1967 and 1968 the Packers won the first two superbowls after winning I believe 3 championships before that. They made a pretty good mark on the game as it was shaping into what it is today. The Packers would not win another superbowl until 1997.
Span between runs- 29 years
In 1969, and 1970 the superbowl was won by teams who have yet to win another superbowl. The Jets, and Chiefs.
In 1971 the Colts won the superbowl, they would return to win in 2007.
Span between runs- 36 years
In 1972 the Pukes won, with another win in 1978, and appearances in 1979 and 1976. They would return to the superbowl and win in 93, 94, and 96.
Span between runs- 15 years
In 1973 and 1974 the Dolphins would win the superbowl, they have yet to return.
The steelers would go on to win in 1975, 76, 79, and 80. They would not return and win until 2006.
Span between runs- 26 years
The Raiders won in 77 and 81, and have not won a superbowl since.
Then the 49ers would go on to win in 82, 85, 89, 90, and 95. I will be entirely honest and say that I do not know enough history to properly state where one window ended and another began here. I can simply to my best to say that this seems to be the only evidence of a balanced and spread out team over the years except for perhaps the steelers.
Our Washington Redskins won in 83, 88, and 92, and as we well know, have not returned since.
The Bears won in 86 and have not returned since.
The Giants won in 87 and 91, and have not returned since.
In 1998 the Broncos finally got a win, which they followed in 99 and have not returned since.
The Rams won in 2000, and the Ravens in 2001. Neither has won since.
In 2003 the Bucs won and have not returned since.
The rest of the decade has been the heart of the Patriots window while the Colts and Steelers have stolen some of the headlines. For the purpose of this argument, I will not count any teams since prior to 2002, the first of the Patriots wins.
Since the first superbowl played, Ten of the teams that have one at least one dynasty have failed to win another superbowl after their first window had ended. That is to say, that certain teams won one, maybe 2 or three superbowls with one group of guys and one group of players in one age, and TEN of those teams have yet to open a knew window and return.
When these ten teams are taken out of the equation, we are left with:
Packers- 29 years
Colts- 36 years
Pukes- 15 years
Steelers- 26 years
This means that of the 4 teams who have put together two different windows of players and philosophies to win superbowls, their average time span between is 26.5 years. That’s a long time.
One more point, of the 15 teams that I factored into my assessment, ONE of them, the 49ers, put their superbowl runs very spread out and dotted through the eras. The other fourteen see only FOUR teams actually put together a second surge of superbowl victories, and 11 have yet to return to glory as they say.
It may be a roundabout way of saying it, but if we commonly think about the 15-16 years of failure since our superbowl, depending on exactly which dates you use and all, it wouldn't be out of the question to think that we might have to wait another 10 years to meet that 26.5 year average. And that’s IF we would make it at all, some teams have been waiting much, much longer.
Don't get me wrong, I want a superbowl as much as the next guy, but doesn't history seem to be biting us in the rear?
Thoughts, questions, disagreements? Anything is very welcome, I thought I did all right research, but I do love me some constructive criticism.
In 1967 and 1968 the Packers won the first two superbowls after winning I believe 3 championships before that. They made a pretty good mark on the game as it was shaping into what it is today. The Packers would not win another superbowl until 1997.
Span between runs- 29 years
In 1969, and 1970 the superbowl was won by teams who have yet to win another superbowl. The Jets, and Chiefs.
In 1971 the Colts won the superbowl, they would return to win in 2007.
Span between runs- 36 years
In 1972 the Pukes won, with another win in 1978, and appearances in 1979 and 1976. They would return to the superbowl and win in 93, 94, and 96.
Span between runs- 15 years
In 1973 and 1974 the Dolphins would win the superbowl, they have yet to return.
The steelers would go on to win in 1975, 76, 79, and 80. They would not return and win until 2006.
Span between runs- 26 years
The Raiders won in 77 and 81, and have not won a superbowl since.
Then the 49ers would go on to win in 82, 85, 89, 90, and 95. I will be entirely honest and say that I do not know enough history to properly state where one window ended and another began here. I can simply to my best to say that this seems to be the only evidence of a balanced and spread out team over the years except for perhaps the steelers.
Our Washington Redskins won in 83, 88, and 92, and as we well know, have not returned since.
The Bears won in 86 and have not returned since.
The Giants won in 87 and 91, and have not returned since.
In 1998 the Broncos finally got a win, which they followed in 99 and have not returned since.
The Rams won in 2000, and the Ravens in 2001. Neither has won since.
In 2003 the Bucs won and have not returned since.
The rest of the decade has been the heart of the Patriots window while the Colts and Steelers have stolen some of the headlines. For the purpose of this argument, I will not count any teams since prior to 2002, the first of the Patriots wins.
Since the first superbowl played, Ten of the teams that have one at least one dynasty have failed to win another superbowl after their first window had ended. That is to say, that certain teams won one, maybe 2 or three superbowls with one group of guys and one group of players in one age, and TEN of those teams have yet to open a knew window and return.
When these ten teams are taken out of the equation, we are left with:
Packers- 29 years
Colts- 36 years
Pukes- 15 years
Steelers- 26 years
This means that of the 4 teams who have put together two different windows of players and philosophies to win superbowls, their average time span between is 26.5 years. That’s a long time.
One more point, of the 15 teams that I factored into my assessment, ONE of them, the 49ers, put their superbowl runs very spread out and dotted through the eras. The other fourteen see only FOUR teams actually put together a second surge of superbowl victories, and 11 have yet to return to glory as they say.
It may be a roundabout way of saying it, but if we commonly think about the 15-16 years of failure since our superbowl, depending on exactly which dates you use and all, it wouldn't be out of the question to think that we might have to wait another 10 years to meet that 26.5 year average. And that’s IF we would make it at all, some teams have been waiting much, much longer.
Don't get me wrong, I want a superbowl as much as the next guy, but doesn't history seem to be biting us in the rear?
Thoughts, questions, disagreements? Anything is very welcome, I thought I did all right research, but I do love me some constructive criticism.