Rabach - the Human Drive Killer?

[sydshobob]

I haven't noticed a lot of backlash aimed at Rabach this week. Maybe that's because JC managed to overcome most of his critical mistakes. Does he just choke duing crunch time or what? Seems like he's always messing up at the worst times.

A holding call. A false start. A snap when nobody was expecting it. That was all on the final drive.

Sure Kendall's new. Wade and Fabini are backups. But Rabach might be the guy who really hurts the line. Am I imagining things or is this kind of a regular thing with him?

[Park City Skins]

Wouldn't want Rabach to feel left out of the general bashing of all things Redskins this week after the Giants game now would we? He took a bit of a beating after the game. As for this being a regular thing, well, you posted the question and the topic. You may want to provide some specific examples. That said, I'll answer the final question. I think you're imagining things. Or at least stretching them some.

[kwitt]

His timing could be better.

[SkinsHokieFan]

Man to think 3 weeks ago this board loved Rabach after the feature of him in the Washington Post

Ozzie Newsome said it was a mistake to let him get away

Now we gotta bash the dude :doh:

[Slacky McSlackAss]

Honestly its official, no one player is safe from bashing on this board. Campbell could throw for 500 yards and 6 TDs but one guy will be like, yeah but did you see him over throw santana, he sucks.

[onedrop]

NO, i am the human thread killer and yours is done......oh but if i really had the power....

one bad game and this is your response? the O line is patchwork, this is what is expected until comfort levels increase.

[WorldBFree76]

You basically answered your own question in your post.

They have no continuity on the line right now, it's going to take some time before things are settled again.

[praise_gibbs]

NO, i am the human thread killer and yours is done......oh but if i really had the power....

one bad game and this is your response? the O line is patchwork, this is what is expected until comfort levels increase.


Rabach ****ed us out of the Chargers game inn '05 as well. Doesn't happen everytime with Casey Rabach but, it isn't exactly foreign either.

[WorldBFree76]

Would you guys rather have Corey Raymer then?

[Merlin Emrys]

It was shades of the 05 Chargers game all over, when Rabach's stupid ass holding penalty cost us the game.

JC did bail him out this time.

[RenegadeTK]

Rabach ****ed us out of the Chargers game inn '05 as well. Doesn't happen everytime with Casey Rabach but, it isn't exactly foreign either.

was it him at the end of that game that got the call??? if so, that definitely helps the threadstarters case

rabach has been solid since he's got here, but being 1 of 2 returning starters still on the oline, he better lead by example a little better

[taylorcoreskin]

It was shades of the 05 Chargers game all over, when Rabach's stupid ass holding penalty cost us the game.

JC did bail him out this time.

Rabach was my least favorite lineman after that Chargers game. The Giants game didn't help out his cause either.

[Chris0894]

I haven't noticed a lot of backlash aimed at Rabach this week. Maybe that's because JC managed to overcome most of his critical mistakes. Does he just choke duing crunch time or what? Seems like he's always messing up at the worst times.

A holding call. A false start. A snap when nobody was expecting it. That was all on the final drive.

Sure Kendall's new. Wade and Fabini are backups. But Rabach might be the guy who really hurts the line. Am I imagining things or is this kind of a regular thing with him? wow, he had a bad "drive", happens to the best of us occasionlly

[Chris0894]

Rabach ****ed us out of the Chargers game inn '05 as well. Doesn't happen everytime with Casey Rabach but, it isn't exactly foreign either. is it rly relevant to bring up a game two years ago? or is that the only one you can think of? doesnt seem to bad to me being last time he had a bad day was two years ago

[Clemenza1112]

First of all the holding call was ok for the play if he didn't grab the player Blitzing when he went by with his left hand while blocking the Tackle, Campbell would of got Flating to the turf, and False start's happen to even the best I've seen Ogden and Walter Jones False start so leave Rabach alone he's doing fine with new guy's to his right it take time to jell.

[praise_gibbs]

was it him at the end of that game that got the call??? if so, that definitely helps the threadstarters case

rabach has been solid since he's got here, but being 1 of 2 returning starters still on the oline, he better lead by example a little better


Yup. AFter Springs got the INT on the Chargers half of the field. All we had to do was gain some yards and kick the FG. Ball game. No OT.

NFL.com play by play states that CP ran for no gain and then Rabach got called for the offensive hold. Minus 10 yards taking us out of FG range. The way I remember it, as I was sitting right there at the game, is that Brunell threw it to Sellers in the flat and put us in FG range at around the 31. Essentially making it a 47-48 yard FG IF we didn't get any more yards. But, at 1st and 10 AND the momentum.. surely we would have gained more yards making the FG a chip shot.


But, Rabach gets called for offensive holding and pushes us back 10. We called a couple more plays but, CP for no gain, and some miss passes from Brunell.. we settle for the long FG anyway and Hall misses wide right.


Time for OT and get smacked around by LT. We should have had that game and would have had the division crown. It goes without saying that we should have had the Bucs 36-35 game AND the Oakland 16-13 game as well. ;)

[praise_gibbs]

is it rly relevant to bring up a game two years ago? or is that the only one you can think of? doesnt seem to bad to me being last time he had a bad day was two years ago


Is is relevent? Why not? It shows that Rabach stalling drives is not foreign by nature.


Or are facts too much for you to swallow? If so, try taking smaller bites. You'll come to your senses.

[Fifty Gut]

He's one of our best players who was stuck blocking two defenders at once on some of those plays. Would you rather have a penalty or a defender having an open shot at Campbell?

[onedrop]

Rabach ****ed us out of the Chargers game inn '05 as well. Doesn't happen everytime with Casey Rabach but, it isn't exactly foreign either.

i hear ya bro-heem. but that WAS 2 years ago. generally speaking he is more of an asset than liability. so he deserves no bashing in my mind. our loss vs the gnats was EVERYONES responsibility. the human need to assign blame and therefore come to grips with the team losing is complete psychological BS. WE lost, big deal. there are 13 more games to play. we will be fine. we will get better and stronger as we go. it is absolutely amazing that weve done this well over three games with the key injuries that the team has suffered.

[Chris0894]

Is is relevent? Why not? It shows that Rabach stalling drives is not foreign by nature.


Or are facts too much for you to swallow? If so, try taking smaller bites. You'll come to your senses. dude that game was two years ago...25 games, people make mistakes lol

[onnie007]

He messed up on the false start but the holding penalty may not have been his fault. On that play it looked like he was trying to keep JC from being killed by Strahan. He was already blocking someone else so I would assume somone on the left (Chris Samuels or Pete Kendall) missed their assignment and Rabach throw out his arm last second.

[taylorcoreskin]

dude that game was two years ago...25 games, people make mistakes lol

Making mistakes at critical times isn't something that should be overlooked.

[Park City Skins]

Okay. So we have the Giants game and the Chargers game. Question still remains. Is this something he does on a regular basis?

[NAILBOMB9]

I'm not too impressed with ANY of our lineman to be truthful. Either they only know how to run block or the QB takes way too much time to throw because it seems like the D is always in our backfield. I like Kendall, he seems to kicking some butt.

[NAILBOMB9]

Okay. So we have the Giants game and the Chargers game. Question still remains. Is this something he does on a regular basis?To be totally truthful, he is the first person to pop in my mind when it comes to "crucial" penalties...

[Chris0894]

Making mistakes at critical times isn't something that should be overlooked. ok in that case campbell has 3 int. in close games, should we bench him?

[taylorcoreskin]

ok in that case campbell has 3 int. in close games, should we bench him?

2nd year QB versus veteran offensive lineman isn't very comparable. :laugh:

[meek]

First of all the holding call was ok for the play if he didn't grab the player Blitzing when he went by with his left hand while blocking the Tackle, Campbell would of got Flating to the turf, and False start's happen to even the best I've seen Ogden and Walter Jones False start so leave Rabach alone he's doing fine with new guy's to his right it take time to jell.

Ogden and Jones aren't centers. It is completely inexcusable for a center to commit a false start penalty. Sure every once and a while you might try some trickery by double clutching the snap to get a dlineman to jump, but the 2 minute drill is not the time for those stunts.

'05 Charger game was definitely the first thing that popped into my head when this drive was going on. Sure you can say that game was 2 years ago, but last year goes out the window IMO. When you go 5-11 it means that you didn't really have any clutch games. Before the past couple of weeks, our last big games were in 2005.

[praise_gibbs]

dude that game was two years ago...25 games, people make mistakes lol


As Taylorcoreskin has stated. That is NOT something to overlook. Sure, it is in the past but, so is whatever happens 2 mins ago. The fact remains that when we need vet leadership from one of our linemen.. Rabach breaks under pressure. All of the time? No. But, more than twice is something to look into. I am sure that the Giants game and the Chargers game are not the only games where he had a penalty at a crucial time. Personally, I don't really care. If you do, waste your time by doing that research.


There are facts to back up Rabach being the guy on our o-line to **** up a game for us. Especially, now that Dock is gone. So, uh.. you can accept it, which you don't care to.. or you can find facts to back up your stance.


You do have a stance, right?

[onedrop]

To be totally truthful, he is the first person to pop in my mind when it comes to "crucial" penalties...

really? maybe so because we lost. HOWEVER, in th WIN vs. philthy Fabini could have worn the same mantle...but a victory seems to erase individual mistakes.

[praise_gibbs]

2nd year QB versus veteran offensive lineman isn't very comparable. :laugh:



:laugh: :laugh:


Close enough?



No?




Damn! :laugh:

[praise_gibbs]

really? maybe so because we lost. HOWEVER, in th WIN vs. philthy Fabini could have worn the same mantle...but a victory seems to erase individual mistakes.


And when did Fabini not get bashed? A victory seems to erase bashing of an individual player in your mind.

[Hiro]

:doh: ....

Rabach is one of the reasons why our offensive lines hasn't completely collapsed when we lost Thomas and Jansen. He's the glue that keeps our guys in line. And don't forget he's like 28, which is young for an offensive lineman. He's entering his prime, and he's quietly becoming one of the best centers in the league! And yes, the man's HUMAN! He's going to make mistakes, big friggin deal! I'd take him over most of the centers in this league.

Ugh I swear we are so damned spoiled by having such a good offensive line for the past 4 years. You wanna be like, say, the Bills and have to pay out the azz for offensive linemen that are simply solid and nothing more? We've got a fine offensive line, at least top 5, and you want to nitpick at the QB of our Oline?

[matty dread]

Might as well cut Rabach now I guess. Two bad games in 3 years, yep he's junk.

[Chris0894]

2nd year QB versus veteran offensive lineman isn't very comparable. :laugh: lol true good point but all im saying is the man was trying to block two people at once to save campbell when he was called for that particular penalty. As for the false start, maybe our fans should shut up while our offense is on the field trying to win the game.

I dont mean to get on the grumpy side but i mean its thursday and people still putting blame on something different everyday. We are Skins fans and if you think about it a lot of us are starting to sound like the media and only pointing out all the bad things

Lets start talking about how we can win that lions game in week 5 :cheers:

[onedrop]

Might as well cut Rabach now I guess. Two bad games in 3 years, yep he's junk.


exactly. and to your user name i say....drives again......:laugh:

[vainglory]

that holding penalty was legit...had he not done that campbell would have been crushed anyways.....

[taylorcoreskin]

Might as well cut Rabach now I guess. Two bad games in 3 years, yep he's junk.

:laugh:

Funny.


But no one was suggesting we cut him, lol.

[onedrop]

And when did Fabini not get bashed? A victory seems to erase bashing of an individual player in your mind.

no man, what im saying is...if that drive had stalled Fabini would be gettin the same week long beechin and moaning. but because we persevered and scored his mistakes were only discussed for about a day or so.

i am all for Rabach. he had a bad game. me personally, im not going to down the guy for a game that the entire team did not show up for after the half. i want him, and the rest of the boys, focused on the game vs. the lions.

[AzSkinsFan63]

The water boy is pissing me off...

[Chris0894]

The water boy is pissing me off...

:laugh: i knew something like that would come up sooner or later

[praise_gibbs]

no man, what im saying is...if that drive had stalled Fabini would be gettin the same week long beechin and moaning. but because we persevered and scored his mistakes were only discussed for about a day or so.

i am all for Rabach. he had a bad game. me personally, im not going to down the guy for a game that the entire team did not show up for after the half. i want him, and the rest of the boys, focused on the game vs. the lions.

I can see that POV. However, I am not blaming this Giant loss soley on Rabach's shoulders. That blame should be placed on no one but, our coaching staff. Simply put, they called a terrible second half.


The Chargers game, however, was.

[praise_gibbs]

Might as well cut Rabach now I guess. Two bad games in 3 years, yep he's junk.


No one is saying to cut him. Just saying that he has cracked under pressure. Nothing more, nothing less.

[AAARedskin]

Casey is OK in my book. I'm already looking FORWARD to us going 3-1 when the Skins vanquish the Lions....

[onedrop]

I can see that POV. However, I am not blaming this Giant loss soley on Rabach's shoulders. That blame should be placed on no one but, our coaching staff. Simply put, they called a terrible second half.


The Chargers game, however, was.

agreed, wholeheartedly. that is why i said the loss was EVERYONES responsibility. we could have won that game easily but we lost. and that is every player, every coach and ultimately every fans burden to carry. yet, i dont choose to see it as indicative of our season to come.

a loss at home is exactly what this team needed to NOT get overconfident as they were in 06......glass half full? you bet, but the first two games gave me and more importantly, the team, the right to have that confidence.

we will prevail.

[McD5]

His last name isn't Betts. Therefore, you are a cowgirls fan if you bash him.


newsflash.

[willmb5]

Rabach did screw up a little bit, but I love that guy. He's one of our best lineman and has been very dependable the past few years. And to be perfectly honest with you, he may be one of the most UNDERrated players on this team

[CM916]

Rabach?! :doh: Yes, you are completely insane as you suggested.

[TomE]

The two passing plays during our first possession of the third quarter turned on the fan into which the "crap" flew.

After our D gave up a TD and it was time for the offense to get it going and take control, they looked confused and out of sync. until “desperation” time.

[tr1]

I'm thinking it's the waterboy's fault we lost.


Bastard.

[laxpck]

I am just glad we have the same guys starting this week that started last week.

Its a change from the previous two weeks for sure.

[Merlin Emrys]

Okay. So we have the Giants game and the Chargers game. Question still remains. Is this something he does on a regular basis?

No, it's not something he does all the time. The ocassions on which he has; however, are memorable. That's unfortunate, because those mistakes have been costly. I think Raback is an outstanding player and a great free agent signing.

[bulldog]

Russ Grimm never had a holding penalty and Joe Jacoby never had a false start penalty that cost the Redskins points on a drive? :)

I remember all the problems Jacoby had with Lawrence Taylor at LT.

If one wants to look at players that are disappointing the OL, including 2 new additions due to injury, are hardly the first ones to come to mind :)

Shawn Springs pass interference call was just as costly.

And Carlos Rogers is still getting beaten on critical third down plays, a re-visit of what happened to him in 2006.

[mi6]

I am not impressed with our offense - period! It's horrible.

The play calling is abysmal. The 700 page book has been condensed into 7 plays ... so that JC can execute it. And, even then he messes up by missing wide open receivers, overthrowing, etc. The run game is dormant ... When we need Portis and Betts to get the tough yardage they haven't been able to deliver.

The NY Giants game final drive, with the ball on the 1 yard line - we still couldn't punch it in. Ridiculous! And, these folks knew scoring on that drive would tie the game ....

[bulldog]

evidently, mi6, you are used to watching Peyton Manning on Sundays :)

because the things you write about being upset at, are exactly the things a young quarterback does in learning how to play in the NFL.

it's not his fault that it took a torn labrum for Brunell and no viable options at hand for Gibbs to finally give Campbell a shot to play mid-way through last season.

[HailYeah]

Rabach is solid. The tread starter has no idea what he's talking about.

That false start was kind of BS anyway. Our big problem is not being able to run to the right, mostly cause of Fabini in my opinion.

[ucfSKINS]

Wouldn't want Rabach to feel left out of the general bashing of all things Redskins this week after the Giants game now would we? He took a bit of a beating after the game. As for this being a regular thing, well, you posted the question and the topic. You may want to provide some specific examples. That said, I'll answer the final question. I think you're imagining things. Or at least stretching them some.

Completely agree. Its just more "what have/haven't you done for me lately." Dude, Rabach is a stud. Stop complaining. More relevant things to dissect. On our maligned O line, Rabach is the new 'rock.' Just because he had a few mistakes in a critical part of a loss doesn't mean anything. **** happens.

[ucfSKINS]

Rabach is solid. The tread starter has no idea what he's talking about.

That false start was kind of BS anyway. Our big problem is not being able to run to the right, mostly cause of Fabini in my opinion.

Seriously, the ball didn't even move. Definitley a BS move.

[REEGSKINS]

i would like to give him a pass. he probably is helping the brand new guards get in the right positions. so he is probably thinking too much instead of just playing. there is a huge ripple effect going on with the injuries along the line. we better start running to the right side even if only to keep defenses honest.

[Whiskeypeet]

Rabach sucks! Cut him! Its the ONLY way.

[Dan T.]

Some of you people and your lynch mob mentality make me sick. You cite two games in THREE YEARS where Rabach had costly penalties, and you spin that like it's a TREND?

Morons.

[DCranon21]

One game and Rabach is the cause of this??? :doh: We mights of well bench him. :rolleyes:

[JimmyConway]

Would you guys rather have Corey Raymer then?

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: that's the real question...

[Taylor 36]

Let's talk about some of the phantom calls that have been made.

[PorkSkins]

Rabach is not the blame. He didn't turn the ball over. Let's talk about the play that changed the momentum of this game. The score was tied 17-17 when JC mishandled the hand-off to CP. We lost the ball on the turnover only to watch the G-Men drive down the field for the go ahead score. After being at the game in person and watching the game again on TIVO, there was nothing wrong with our play calling. Turnovers cost us this game at crucial points. Even the fumble lost by JC that Cooley recovered was a drive killer. IMO, we should of took care of the ball better if we were trying to preserve a win.

[slappy434]

I'd have to go back and get specific details but I do remember multiple penalties from him in the past. I think it was 2005, during a 2 or 3 game stretch, I swear that EVERY TIME Clinton broke a good run for over 15 yards.....*whistle*...Holding, 61 offense, 10 yard penalty.....

He's solid most of the time, but it does seem like he gets penalties in clutch situations. I think they only stand out though because you never really hear much about him during a game. He usually does his job pretty well.

[The Full Monty]

Homerish Silver lining: the last time Rabach made some big mistakes in a game, like how everyone mentions San Diego...we went on to win 5 straight regular season games and a playoff victory on the road...

[JohnLockesGhost]

Personally, I thought Rabach's holding penalty was the coolest holding penalty I've ever seen. The dude was blocking the man to his right when the linebacker (or stunting lineman) tried to get through on his left. He was able to reach out with one arm and stop him as he was running full speed.

I think there should be an exception to the holding rule that if your hold looks that beastly, you get a free pass.

[forbeskin]

So, it's Rabach's fault we lost to the Chargers, didn't win the division, got the wild card, beat Tampa Bay, played Seattle with a Shawn Alexander out of the game, but still couldn't pull off a victory? Is that about right? Damn you Rabach, damn you!!!!!

Oh, I'm sure he has something to do with global warming, right?

[Thirtyfive2seven]

To be totally truthful, he is the first person to pop in my mind when it comes to "crucial" penalties...

Name a time that Randy Thomas made a "crucial" penalty?

How about Samuels? or Jasen? I don't remember any.

Rabach has been solid except for the two examples everyone has brought up. The offensive line is patchwork right now and doing well all things considered.

Keep it up Replacement Dirtbags.

[REDSKINS8181]

Personally, I thought Rabach's holding penalty was the coolest holding penalty I've ever seen. The dude was blocking the man to his right when the linebacker (or stunting lineman) tried to get through on his left. He was able to reach out with one arm and stop him as he was running full speed.

I think there should be an exception to the holding rule that if your hold looks that beastly, you get a free pass.

:notworthy :applause:

[isle-hawg]

I haven't noticed a lot of backlash aimed at Rabach this week. Maybe that's because JC managed to overcome most of his critical mistakes. Does he just choke duing crunch time or what? Seems like he's always messing up at the worst times.

A holding call. A false start. A snap when nobody was expecting it. That was all on the final drive.

Sure Kendall's new. Wade and Fabini are backups. But Rabach might be the guy who really hurts the line. Am I imagining things or is this kind of a regular thing with him?

I was at the game, and did not pick up on Rabach's miscues. But I was given and earful on these same Rabach miscues by my 17 year old daughter when I came home. Her game breakdown was summed up to me as "Rabach sucks and Cartwright is awesome."

[Park City Skins]

Seriously, the ball didn't even move. Definitley a BS move.

No. But he did. Just a twitch, but that's enough. I may have been a cadence thing or something, but he did move. And I agree with JohnLockesGhost's view on the holding call. That was just a hell of a play there. There was a big defensive guy with a fairly unobstructed path to Jason on that play and he reached out and slowed him down, while keeping another guy occupied as well. Better to risk the hold than allow a sack and a possible fumble or injury. I don't include that one in the cave under pressure category. Actually, just the opposite.

[thesubmittedone]

He's one of our best players who was stuck blocking two defenders at once on some of those plays. Would you rather have a penalty or a defender having an open shot at Campbell?

You know man, there was never a penalty that made me smile as much as that one did. Rabach is simply a beast, and if I'm Jason Campbell, I'd be kissing his butt every day of the week.

The guy is ridiculously tough. He's blocking a 300+ pound Dlineman and while he's doing it he stops Micheal Strahan and his momentum WITH ONE FRIGGIN ARM.


I'm sorry, but that's not normal. What a beast.

Another thing was, if you got the game saved somehow, go back to that exact same play and turn the volume all the way up. You can basically hear everything our guys were saying. First, you hear Rabach go "Are you fing kidding me?!"... then, and this is the best part, you hear Jason say "Alright guys, 3rd and 21, let's do this". He then proceeds to call the play and you can hear him at the line too. Jason sounds totally different out there. It was like someone else was talking. He's a friggin warrior, and he definitely is a leader. The way he was talking was awesome to hear.

Like I said... no penalty has made me smile as much. :D

[SKINS FAN #56]

I haven't noticed a lot of backlash aimed at Rabach this week. Maybe that's because JC managed to overcome most of his critical mistakes. Does he just choke duing crunch time or what? Seems like he's always messing up at the worst times.

A holding call. A false start. A snap when nobody was expecting it. That was all on the final drive.

Sure Kendall's new. Wade and Fabini are backups. But Rabach might be the guy who really hurts the line. Am I imagining things or is this kind of a regular thing with him?

Well those mistakes were costly but I dont think they would've made much of a difference because we still got down to like the 1-yard line and didn't punch it in.

Who knows though if it weren't for those calls, would we have scored?

[Wyvern]

Rabach did screw up a little bit, but I love that guy. He's one of our best lineman and has been very dependable the past few years. And to be perfectly honest with you, he may be one of the most UNDERrated players on this team I second this post.:applause:

Rabach was a great signing. He stabilized this line. Sure, there are some other top-rated centers out there, but Casey is a solid contirbutor, and we're lucky to have him.

Sure, there's been some false starts on the team, and also several holding calls. So, maybe that's because three-fifths of the front line is new? So, maybe the QB is in his 10th game? Somewhere I recall hearing Campbell had to take 'enunication' lessons -- maybe was that a factor?

Who konws what the real causes were. I'm only saying -- don't blame this loss on Rabach -- I saw a lot of Redskins 'super-stars' who needed to step up to overcome these five-yard penalties. ...And they didn't. This was a team loss!

[thesubmittedone]

Rabach is not the blame. He didn't turn the ball over. Let's talk about the play that changed the momentum of this game. The score was tied 17-17 when JC mishandled the hand-off to CP. We lost the ball on the turnover only to watch the G-Men drive down the field for the go ahead score. After being at the game in person and watching the game again on TIVO, there was nothing wrong with our play calling. Turnovers cost us this game at crucial points. Even the fumble lost by JC that Cooley recovered was a drive killer. IMO, we should of took care of the ball better if we were trying to preserve a win.

Great job man, I noticed the same thing watching the game over again three times. The play calling was actually terrific. On almost every play, besides the two passes in a row where Moss and Campbell weren't on the same page, we had the Giants fooled and on their heels. The problem was our execution and great individual play by the Giants.

Sam Madison, for instance, decided that he felt like playing for the first time this year and made some great tackles to stop what would've been huge gains. Clinton Portis dropped a sure third down conversion. He also fumbled the ball once, something he very rarely does. Campbell had a step on Umenyiora and he JUST barely tripped over Umenyioras foot on a play that Campbell would've ran for a good amount of yards. It looked like Osi made a good play to tackle Jason, however, it was actually Jason tripping. Jason also missed Santana deep on what would've surely demoralized the Giants at the time.

It was seriously ONE THING AFTER THE OTHER in that second half. It's actually pretty laughable watching it over again. It's like it didn't matter how much better we were than them, it was gonna go their way, PERIOD.


Watching the game over and over, I can only say one thing:

We ARE A GOOD TEAM WITH THE POTENTIAL TO BE A GREAT TEAM AND QUICK. Seriously. The way we willed that final drive to happen. The Giants put everyone back and we still got to the one yard line passing the ball. The only thing I feel worried about is Fabini. I noticed his play was average to below-average. He was the only Olineman to consistently FALL DOWN. He seems to have trouble keeping his balance, and as an Olineman, that's a big problem.

[Veretax]

I still think those calls on Rabach were BS.

[bedlamVR]

I think the one holding call which people are bitching about was one hell of a heads up play by Raybach becasue i cannot remember if he was already blocking one or two guys then as the blitzer headed up field after JC Raybach reached out and stopped him one handed dead in his tracks becasue if he didn't JC was going to get absolutly creamed ...

Is there anyone on the roster the fans are not going to tear chunks out of ?

[chow184]

I haven't noticed a lot of backlash aimed at Rabach this week. Maybe that's because JC managed to overcome most of his critical mistakes. Does he just choke duing crunch time or what? Seems like he's always messing up at the worst times.

A holding call. A false start. A snap when nobody was expecting it. That was all on the final drive.

Sure Kendall's new. Wade and Fabini are backups. But Rabach might be the guy who really hurts the line. Am I imagining things or is this kind of a regular thing with him?
the flast start and errant snap on him are bad but did you even see what happened on the holding play?

he had to block 2 people or block 1 and take a sack or allow a large hit on jason

I'll take a holding penalty over a sack.

[PleaseGoForTheWin]

That holding call against San Diego back in '05 still burns me, but generally the guy is consistent and he seems to have become a leader, so it's forgivable. Everyone makes mistakes, but he mostly plays well and is durbale, so I'm glad that he's part of the team.

[Playmaker89]

Honestly its official, no one player is safe from bashing on this board. Campbell could throw for 500 yards and 6 TDs but one guy will be like, yeah but did you see him over throw santana, he sucks.

Does it surprise you? I used to get frustrated at stupid threads bashing our players, especially some of our key players... Now I just laugh it off and consider the source.

[TotalRecall]

I haven't noticed a lot of backlash aimed at Rabach this week. Maybe that's because JC managed to overcome most of his critical mistakes. Does he just choke duing crunch time or what? Seems like he's always messing up at the worst times.

A holding call. A false start. A snap when nobody was expecting it. That was all on the final drive.

Sure Kendall's new. Wade and Fabini are backups. But Rabach might be the guy who really hurts the line. Am I imagining things or is this kind of a regular thing with him?

I guess there wasn't a backlash because Campbell, Moss, and Randle El overcame his mistakes. But yeah, Fabini and Rabach do cause most of the offensive penalties. At least, our center isn't the head coach's son-in-law (Giants). http://www.htmlgens.com/smileys/kissass.jpg <---- kiss ass

[alwaysaskin]

The Line is currently full of reserves, Samuels and Rabach are the only two who have logged more than three games as starters for the 'Skins. I honestly think that we will be making a HUGE mistake if we do not draft for O-Line depth and possiby get a new RT if Jansen can't come back

[shoefly72]

He only had that holding penalty because Fabini completely missed his block and Rabach was forced to block two people at once, so Jason wouldn't get sacked.

[mcarey032]

All I know is that I saw him hold during the chargers game two years ago that knocked the redskins out of field goal range and made the redskins miss the field goal. That is the other instance that I can think of. Hopefully, this break will get the redskins right. They better come out swinging, because Detroit, while they may not be great; they will be a tougher opponent. I certainly think that they are better than the giants. All I know is that they are going to be picking on Carlos Rogers a whole lot.