Andre Carter is improved

[D'Pablo]

I'm surprised no one has hit on this. It seems like every long run against the skins has involved this guy getting shoved back 20 yards. He can't hold his ground at all. He has two sacks on the season and people are willing to forget that he gets run over constantly. I'm surprised teams haven't been running to his side more often considering the success last season. It should be a crime for our coaches to allow a 252lbs DE out on the field on every down.

[Combatant]

That's funny, the negativity out of nowhere.

[tryfuhl]

they did have a lot of success running on that side on us last year.. carter does get double teamed though

[kevin11]

Hes fine. He has two sacks

And a FF led for a TD.

He is getting pressure. You dont know what you are talking about.

[kevin11]

they did have a lot of success running on that side on us last year.. carter does get double teamed though:doh:

You dont remember Holdman?

[DButz65]

Heh, not 1 star for you

[skinsfan07]

Hes fine. He has two sacks

And a FF led for a TD.

He is getting pressure. You dont know what you are talking about.


:applause::applause::applause: Exactly. This guy is still suck on last season. :doh:

close thread.

[Blondie]

Well.........were you holding that little tidbit all week?

:laugh:

Not having a good day?

[tryfuhl]

:doh:

You dont remember Holdman?

You can't read both parts of my sentence?

[Park City Skins]

If no one has hit on this, there's probably a good reason for it. Sigh. Careful when you chum the waters around here.

[GibbsWon3ForAReason]

"Our coaches should be fired" and "Our players suck" ... so why are we 2-1? Early Christmas presents from Santa Claus???

[TheGift]

Andre is actually the only threat on our dline.

[Capt'n Obvious]

Andre is actually the only threat on our dline.

As far as pass rushing goes, he is our biggest threat.

Griffin is a good run stopper.

:logo:

[John Madden]

Are you kidding me?
3 games, 9 tackles, 2.5 sacks and 1 forced fumble.
Let's crucify Carter because Daniels and Evans are being so productive on the opposite side, right? Their combined stats don't even match Carter.
I agree with your point about him being undersized, but that's all. The guy was a linebacker. He's just getting into the zone at end, and he's consistently in great shape. Sorry, your scapegoat is null and void.

[D'Pablo]

I just re-watched last week's game. The guy was constantly picked on in the running game, especially in the second half. Just watch the tape yourself to understand where I'm coming from. I remember during the Philly game where most of Westbrook's success came at the expense of Carter, too. I can't believe there are people actually defending this guy in the run game. He can occasionally get to the passer, I can understand that. He cannot, however, rush the passer if he is constantly being bull-dozed over on every run.

[LD0506]

This isn't taylorcoreskin Pt. 2, is it?

[jeronimobrat]

The more that you guys rewatch tapes of the game, the more upset you'll become!

[Whiskeypeet]

He cannot, however, rush the passer if he is constantly being bull-dozed over on every run.

What???? :doh:

[Thoth]

I'm surprised no one has hit on this. It seems like every long run against the skins has involved this guy getting shoved back 20 yards. He can't hold his ground at all. He has two sacks on the season and people are willing to forget that he gets run over constantly. I'm surprised teams haven't been running to his side more often considering the success last season. It should be a crime for our coaches to allow a 252lbs DE out on the field on every down.

He is a situational pass rusher who we paid like a starting DE.

We need to spend 2 picks on DEs, one of them a high one.

On the other hand, it is very difficult to find BIG DEs who can play the run and pass.

While we were trading away 3rd and 4th round picks for Lloyd and Duckett, and drafting fullbacks and linebackers that aren't even on the team, franchises like Dallas were using such mid-round picks to draft guys like Chris Canty. He's 6'7", 300 pounds, starts, and was drafted in the 4th round.

Next year is deep in lineman. If the FO doesn't spend a high pick on a DE, it is inexcusable. And they need to roll the dice on another Canty or Blades type guy who is a DE. I'm not going to be all negative here, because Montgomery and Golston are similar finds.

[[[ghost]]]

That's funny, the negativity out of nowhere.

It is, pessimism out of the blue is ridiculous. That said, although he put it together terribly and timed it horribly, I wouldn't say he is completely wrong. Carter is a weakness in the run game. He's becoming a great pass rusher, but I wish we could get in a situational DE on certain downs.

[jabronijames]

Dang...just out of nowhere you come out with that gem? Good grief, man. Take a chill pill.

Andre Carter is doing a decent job as a Defensive End. he's not perfect, for sure, but he's contributing with his sacks and his ability to provide a valid pass rush. That was missing last year, probably because it took him a while to adjust, but he's improved immensely since then.

[Stew]

He is a situational pass rusher who we paid like a starting DE.

We need to spend 2 picks on DEs, one of them a high one.

On the other hand, it is very difficult to find BIG DEs who can play the run and pass.

While we were trading away 3rd and 4th round picks for Lloyd and Duckett, and drafting fullbacks and linebackers that aren't even on the team, franchises like Dallas were using such mid-round picks to draft guys like Chris Canty. He's 6'7", 300 pounds, starts, and was drafted in the 4th round.

Next year is deep in lineman. If the FO doesn't spend a high pick on a DE, it is inexcusable. And they need to roll the dice on another Canty or Blades type guy who is a DE. I'm not going to be all negative here, because Montgomery and Golston are similar finds.


I think our first two picks need to be linemen, but on the offensive side of the ball. Or one O-linemen, and then a D-lineman, but we need to draft O-line coming up. Jansen is breaking down and i dont know hom much longer Samuels can perform at an elite level. :2cents:

[Combatant]

]']It is, pessimism out of the blue is ridiculous. That said, although he put it together terribly and timed it horribly, I wouldn't say he is completely wrong. Carter is a weakness in the run game. He's becoming a great pass rusher, but I wish we could get in a situational DE on certain downs.

Good post, it would be nice to have a situational guy to throw in there. Maybe we'll get a major impact guy in the draft. I can't think of too many other positions (other than the right side of our o-line) to draft that high.

[Chump Bailey]

I don't have a huge problem with Andre personally because the guy never stops battling and plays hard until the whistle blows.

[Taylorfan2179]

Carter is fine. its daniels Im not too crazy about. Ive said it before. MAN I hape we get calais campbell at the 32nd overall pick.

[One Shot]

I disagree with your bluntness and Andre Carter doesn't "suck". But at the same time, I think too many feel that one sack per game is enough. They think that if he gets 15-16 sacks this season, he's done his job. But that isn't the case. He has to put consistent pressure on the QB, that's more important. Obviously, as a result, he'll get more sacks, but the amount of pressure he puts on the QB is what counts. If he's doing that, he's doing his job.

[GibbsWon3ForAReason]

Did you mean to type "Aaron Carter" instead of "Andre Carter"?

If you meant Aaron Carter, then I agree.

If you meant Andre Carter, then I disagree. I think Andre Carter has done a decent job.

Is it just me or does it seem like Andre Carter is so close to making a lot more plays and having a bigger impact on the game?

[The_cavalierman]

Andre Carter is a be careful what you wish for scenario come to life.

Redskins fans begged and pleaded for a pass rusher and we got one in Andre Carter. The problem is Carter is about 256 pounds so although he can sack people he becomes a liability when teams target his edge to run on.

Considering Rocky McIntosh is also light and fleet there is no one on the right side that is a real run stuffer Except Sean Taylor who is no longer supporting the run as much.

Carter is a good football player and hopefully he will be able to get a little more stout against the run while he continues to get sacks.

I wish Carter was a freak of nature like Julius Peppers who at 280 pounds runs like a gazzelle, but we are not so fortunate.

Andre Carter does not suck...but Greg Williams needs to figure out a way to cover up the problem the Giants exposed last week on the right side of the D-line.

[The_cavalierman]

Did you mean to type "Aaron Carter" instead of "Andre Carter"?

If you meant Aaron Carter, then I agree.

If you meant Andre Carter, then I disagree. I think Andre Carter has done a decent job.

Is it just me or does it seem like Andre Carter is so close to making a lot more plays and having a bigger impact on the game?

You are seeing what a lot of folks are seeing.

Carter is getting into the fray this year, but the Giants ran him over last week.

He needs to stick some sandbags in his pocket so he won't get rag-dolled when teams run at him.

Other than that...he has been very impactful.

[Thirtyfive2seven]

Carter reminds me of Kula. Situational pass rusher. The sad part is, he's our best defensive linemen along with Griff.

I don't understand why the OP decided to just throw him under a bus though. Someone piss in your cornflakes?

[Santana_Fan]

Carter is fine. its daniels Im not too crazy about. Ive said it before. MAN I hape we get calais campbell at the 32nd overall pick.


I like Dorsey out of LSU.

[Laxpunk2006]

I'm not sure what the gripe here is. Through 3 games we're #10 at stopping the run in the league. Andre has been getting great pressure. His stats are moderate but he has been so close to making multiple plays. This might not show up on the stat sheet but he is forcing QB's to act faster and get the ball out of their hands. I obviously am looking for Carter to continue improving throughout the year but I think he is doing great. Maybe it's just these burgandy glasses I'm wearing.

[kevin11]

I disagree with your bluntness and Andre Carter doesn't "suck". But at the same time, I think too many feel that one sack per game is enough. They think that if he gets 15-16 sacks this season, he's done his job. But that isn't the case. He has to put consistent pressure on the QB, that's more important. Obviously, as a result, he'll get more sacks, but the amount of pressure he puts on the QB is what counts. If he's doing that, he's doing his job.

no, i said he gets pressure alot. Just because he isnt sacking means he is getting sacks.

[kevin11]

I like Dorsey out of LSU.thats a DT and hes a top5 pick. Hopefully, we arent that high

He dont need DT, ours are fine. Griffin, Golston, montogomery, and others


We need a DE to replace Daniels, but i dont think we should pick one with our 1st pick.

[Stone Cold]

he sucks?...but does he, well nevermind...

[seanyt]

Well at this point this season I can't tottaly agree, but that Okoye kid aint too bad in Houston. The Kid is up to 4 sacks...

[D'Pablo]

First off, I completely stand by what I've said. I have game tape to back me up. This isn't completely out of the blue to me, either. It's something I've had on my mind and haven't had the time to review film to validate it. You're entitled to disagree, but I'm right.

I'll admit that "sucks" is pretty strong considering that Carter can get pressure. However, if he keeps getting manhandled in run support, his value is greatly diminished. He was visible tired by the beginning of the fourth quarter against the Giants. A lot of that had to do with him being blown off the line constantly in the previous quarter. The Giants don't have world-beaters at OT.

Last year, many of us, myself included, wanted to believe that Warrick Holdman was the sole reason our run D was weak on the right side. Having seen teams exploit that area in nearly every game this season, it leads me to believe that Holdman wasn't the only issue. There seems to be pattern of stretch plays to our right that each team has run, gaining 8 yards a pop (sometimes more).

An every-down 250lbs D-lineman in this era of professional football is ridiculous. At least Dwight Freeney, whom many consider under-sized, is close to 270 lbs. To some people this weight issue isn't important, but I think it's crucial. I think my main gripe is that he has had two offseasons to put on weight since reverting back to a DE and hasn't done so. This team is equipped to handle any run support issues with our D-line. In that sense, we're a lot like a 3-4 D, with our linemen clogging up the O-line. When one guy struggles, Carter in this case, our entire D struggles.

[cphil006]

he hasn't been over run. The problem with this site is the important threads get knocked lower because garbage threads like this are made. Make a legit thread with a legit title...

this is crap.

[Soup]

Carter is on his way to get a double digit sack total by the end of this year barring injury. Where do these guys get this crap?

[DaMuller7]

I'm surprised no one has hit on this. It seems like every long run against the skins has involved this guy getting shoved back 20 yards. He can't hold his ground at all. He has two sacks on the season and people are willing to forget that he gets run over constantly. I'm surprised teams haven't been running to his side more often considering the success last season. It should be a crime for our coaches to allow a 252lbs DE out on the field on every down.


Blah blah blah, quit whining, he's our best Defensive Lineman......

[LoudMouth12thMan]

I'm surprised no one has hit on this. It seems like every long run against the skins has involved this guy getting shoved back 20 yards. He can't hold his ground at all. He has two sacks on the season and people are willing to forget that he gets run over constantly. I'm surprised teams haven't been running to his side more often considering the success last season. It should be a crime for our coaches to allow a 252lbs DE out on the field on every down.
Glasses and professional football 101 book anyone?

[DallasSucks19922010]

:doh:

You dont remember Holdman?

What? Highway 57 was our best linebacker! haha i couldnt stand Holdman at all and carter gets double teamed like all the time because hes a beast. o well i have no idea why people have to be so negative.

[HailfrmDEN]

I watched the game and carter and griffin were double teamed most the game. We do need a DE to replace Daniels. I like him but it may be his time. Are DTs didn't do great but didn't suck.:point2sky

[Blue Collar Skins]

I'm surprised no one has hit on this. It seems like every long run against the skins has involved this guy getting shoved back 20 yards. He can't hold his ground at all. He has two sacks on the season and people are willing to forget that he gets run over constantly. I'm surprised teams haven't been running to his side more often considering the success last season. It should be a crime for our coaches to allow a 252lbs DE out on the field on every down.
This post sucks! Heh :silly:

Honestly, let's say he got 1 sack a game that would be 16 sacks on the year which is unheard of. So, having 2 sacks in 3 games is very good. I honestly have no idea what you are talking about.

[SkinsNoles21]

it was only a matter of time...

Ethan Albright thread...thats exactly what I was talking about.

[909997]

ii have brought this up before

his average pass rushing ability isnt worth keeping him on the feild with his crappy run D.

[KillasSkins]

andre carter started last year on the other side of the line for most games, towards the end of the season him and daniels flip flopped, then he was getting sacks, i think carter would be better as a DT

[method man]

ii have brought this up before

his average pass rushing ability isnt worth keeping him on the feild with his crappy run D.

The type of DE that is best in this scheme is a bullrusher like Daniels because they are big enough to take both the run and the pass. We need to get ourselves a young bullrusher in the draft.

[Enter Apotheosis]

First off, I completely stand by what I've said. I have game tape to back me up. This isn't completely out of the blue to me, either. It's something I've had on my mind and haven't had the time to review film to validate it. You're entitled to disagree, but I'm right.

If we give up 3.2 ypc every game because of Andre Carter getting picked on, I'm far from worried. In other words, the Giants game was not exactly a great game to pick if you want to point out one of our guy's failings in run support. While the Eagles game is a better example, it was clear to me that missed tackles and hesitation by our LBs was the bigger issue.

It seems to me that you also ignore the fact that he does make plays in run support with his speed and motor despite the fact that he can get pushed around a little. Carter has made plenty of tackles for us in his tenure here where he's managed to find his way to the other side of the field to bring a guy down.

[mcarey032]

yeah well where was this thread last week after the loss? I don't understand where this one is coming from. The defense was on the field for most of the second half! I can't put this one on the defense. The offense had done its' job, we wouldn't be talking about a loss right now.

[#21Taylor4Ever]

You deserve a public beating for this thread.

[jaxskinsville]

Andre is actually the only threat on our dline.

You beat me to it.

:applause:

[h8dacowgirls]

You deserve a public beating for this thread.


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[S.T.real,lights,out]

We didn't sign him to stop the run we signed him to rush the QB and he's been doing a good job of that. Not sure what game you've been watching.

[Swift]

I'd agree that Carter isn't great at containing the weakside against the run. That said, he is the only one on our line that gets consistent pressure on the QB, and the LB's behind him (Rocky and Fletch) are both strong against the run, which helps cover his flaws.

With our team run defense being as strong as it is, I'd say you're probably worrying about the issue too much. Carter's a speed-rusher, and especially with how shaky our pass-defense looks as is, I'd say Carter's a much greater asset against the pass than he is a liability against the run.

[onnie007]

We're not even playing this weekend. Where is all this negativity coming from? The man has two sacks in 3 games. He's on pace to have a very good season. We are doing pretty good against the run and there is nothing to worry about. Take a deep breath.

[RedskinPryde]

I'm surprised no one has hit on this. It seems like every long run against the skins has involved this guy getting shoved back 20 yards. He can't hold his ground at all. He has two sacks on the season and people are willing to forget that he gets run over constantly. I'm surprised teams haven't been running to his side more often considering the success last season. It should be a crime for our coaches to allow a 252lbs DE out on the field on every down.


So I think we will be accepting D'Pablos apology by the end of the season.

[TheLongshot]

Oh my god! One of our players has a flaw! That must mean he sucks. :doh:

There isn't much doubt that Carter is somewhat weak against a power running game, but so is Dwight Freeney. Unless you are able to get a premiere talent like Julius Peppers or Michael Strahan, there are going to be tradeoffs.

Jason

[dent19]

I really thought he was garbage last year and wasnt worth the money Skins forked out to get him here....
BUt really thought he has improved this year. Still think he has no natural talent at the position, but better then last year....

My past comments on AC
newest to oldest:
http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4119007#post4119007

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3761360#post3761360

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3758767#post3758767

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3756817#post3756817

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3733642#post3733642

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3732599#post3732599

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3368428#post3368428

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3205958#post3205958

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3034286#post3034286

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2982227#post2982227

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2952215#post2952215

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2918299#post2918299

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2918292#post2918292

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2849664#post2849664

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?
p=2823492#post2823492

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=165040

THers more but, you get the point

[kwitt]

Compared to Archuletta and Lloyd, Carter was a great signing. That was the worst off season in NFL history.

[Enter Apotheosis]

Still think he has no natural talent at the position, but better then last year....

Whats that supposed to mean? He has no natural talent at LB if anything...

[GaryGreenMonk]

The funny part about this thread is that we have been pretty effective stopping the run so far this season.

Not so good at putting pressure on the QB though. Especially after watching the Giants sack McNabb 9 times so far tonight.

[Drastik]

you do realized that when he's getting pushed back via double team that a LINEBACKER or safety is RESPONSIBLE for filling the play right?

[D'Pablo]

you do realized that when he's getting pushed back via double team that a LINEBACKER or safety is RESPONSIBLE for filling the play right?

Sure I do. Who's responsible when it's a FB or a TE all by themselves?

Once upon a time, this board was about debate. Now it's about being an ass to whoever strikes up the debate. Feel free to say I'm wrong, but how about backing it up with something? Or hell, just be respectful. We're all (mostly, anyway) skins fans here. I didn't attack you, so I'd expect not to be attacked myself.

It's almost like I've insulted a board member's sick child by the way you guys have irrationally pounced on this thread. You don't have to read a single word that I've written. If you'd like to have a happy feel-good-time thread, go check out the "Destroy Detroit" thread. Leave this space for actual debate.

[DirtySkin21]

you're crazy, i stopped reading after a few words. I wish you knew what you were talking about before you ramble your mouth and spit out dumb words.

Andre Carter get's constant pressure and is always getting doubled.
I think they should switch him on Both sides of the DEnd that way they couldnt do what they do but andre does not suck. you cant base one game and a Loss at that on the mans performance

[E33Green]

Agreed, he pretty much sucks.

[Taylor4Life]

Andre Carter is on pace to have 10-11 sacks this year. What more do want from the guy?

[Park City Skins]

As others have stated, Carter has been double teamed alot this season so far. Now one, compare this to last season when it didn't happen as much. Big improvement there. And he's still getting pressure at times. Also, if he did suck, those teams wouldn't be spending as much time doubling up on the man. I'm not saying this happens all the time, but enough to make one realize that other teams offenses are paying a lot more attention to him these days. And there's a reason for that.

[flexxskins]

]']It is, pessimism out of the blue is ridiculous. That said, although he put it together terribly and timed it horribly, I wouldn't say he is completely wrong. Carter is a weakness in the run game. He's becoming a great pass rusher, but I wish we could get in a situational DE on certain downs.Perfect quote. Took the words right out of my mouth.

[E33Green]

I hate to say it, but Osi had more sacks tonight than Andre Carter will prbably have all season.

[mi6]

If Andre is the only threat we have on our D-Line then we must be pretty porus.

Andre was not great when he played for the 49ers, and hence they let him go. He is not OC from the NY Giants! Now, thats one guy we need to get ...

[E33Green]

Osi is such a beast, we need a D-end like him...

[DirtySkin21]

Osi is such a beast, we need a D-end like him...

c'mon jump off the mans weiner please

[FanboyOf91]

As others have stated, Carter has been double teamed alot this season so far. Now one, compare this to last season when it didn't happen as much. Big improvement there. And he's still getting pressure at times. Also, if he did suck, those teams wouldn't be spending as much time doubling up on the man. I'm not saying this happens all the time, but enough to make one realize that other teams offenses are paying a lot more attention to him these days. And there's a reason for that.

Quoted for truth. :applause:

[SkinsFan13]

Hes fine. He has two sacks

And a FF led for a TD.

He is getting pressure. You dont know what you are talking about.

agreed.:helmet:

[Enter Apotheosis]

If Andre is the only threat we have on our D-Line then we must be pretty porus.

Andre was not great when he played for the 49ers, and hence they let him go. He is not OC from the NY Giants! Now, thats one guy we need to get ...

For someone who lives in San Fran, you sure as hell don't seem to be too aware of Carter's history there. The man had 25.5 sacks in his first three seasons as a 4-3 DE with the 9ers. The rest of his tenure there was spent dealing with a back injury in '04 and then playing out of his natural position as a 3-4 OLB. San Fran let him go simply because there was no place for him in the defense they were transitioning to.

Hell, if you look at the four seasons where he was healthy and he averages about 40 solo tackles, 8 sacks, and 2 forced fumbles per season. If he put up exactly those numbers in a single season he would likely rank among the top 15 DEs.

[thesubmittedone]

The more that you guys rewatch tapes of the game, the more upset you'll become!

Not true at all.

And Carter made some great plays in the running game against the Giants. They had one play where they ran to his side with some success and the commentators mentioned how opposing offenses like to do that against us. This is probably why this guy is sayng what he's saying. After they stopped talking Carter came up and made some tackles stuffing their RB a few times. They stayed quiet.

I guess this guy needs to hear Joe Buck and Troy Aikman give credit before he does. Sad. :(

[D'Pablo]

I guess this guy needs to hear Joe Buck and Troy Aikman give credit before he does. Sad. :(

I don't listen to any commentary outside of Sonny and company. You claim that he stuffed the run a couple of times, yet he was credited for 4 total tackles in the entire game. Perhaps you need to revisit the tape before commenting. Sad. :(

[philjr73]

"Our coaches should be fired" and "Our players suck" ... so why are we 2-1? Early Christmas presents from Santa Claus???



If you look at it close we could be 0-3. We just cant score points on offense.
Coaching/Playcalling sucks yet again. Al and his 700 pages need to go back to KC, but then again they didnt want him either.

[redskins55]

First off, I completely stand by what I've said. I have game tape to back me up.

Your opinion is based off of one game tape you decided to break down? Carter is our best D-Lineman right now. He is the only one that draws a double team, or a brush off block by the runningback coming out of the backfield for a pass. You really are being irrational in your assessment.

[voicekiller]

I like what i have seen so far this year from Andre...not sure what games you are watching but he has been pretty effective this season

[RenegadeTK]

I like what i have seen so far this year from Andre...not sure what games you are watching but he has been pretty effective this season

yeah.... i think he finally looks comfortable back in his old spot

[D'Pablo]

Your opinion is based off of one game tape you decided to break down? Carter is our best D-Lineman right now. He is the only one that draws a double team, or a brush off block by the runningback coming out of the backfield for a pass. You really are being irrational in your assessment.

The running assumption in this thread is that I'm basing my opinions exclusively on one game. That's simply not the case. This isn't a knee-jerk reaction to a loss. I've been watching this guy closely since we acquired him. He has not improved all that much since the end of last season. The same flaws we saw last year have been visible this year.

I was hoping that Carter would gain some weight in the offseason to complete his transition back to a DE, but that wasn't the case. He is still ridiculously under-sized. It doesn't mean a thing if Carter reaches 12 sacks this year and has given up a 1000 yards rushing on his side of the D. Like Greg Blache has stated before, sacks are overrated.

One constant in 04' and 05' was that our D was anchored by two big run-plugging DEs. Those were top 10 defenses. Honestly, I'd love for Carter to prove me wrong. I happen to like how centered the guy is outside the football field. Unfortunately, I don't think he belongs in this defensive system. If he gained some weight (ideally 20lbs), he would probably have more sacks and as a team, we'd be more stout against the run.

[Brandon Lloyd Christmas]

carter is the best DE we have, and that is really sad. he cant bullrush anybody, all he has is that weak move where he tries to get all the way around to the back of the QB.

we need a DE that can just bring blunt force. carter doesnt do that.

[#98QBKiller]

You suck....at life.

[Taylorfan2179]

You suck....at life.

Ouuuchhh:laugh:

[danthemann71]

he's a 100% pass-rushing DE, not a run blocker. dont blame him for his weakness, blame the coaches for exposing it on sure-fire running plays. maybe he should only be out there on passing plays, and we can put in more of a hybrid DE on running plays

[Brandon Lloyd Christmas]

As others have stated, Carter has been double teamed alot this season so far. Now one, compare this to last season when it didn't happen as much. Big improvement there. And he's still getting pressure at times. Also, if he did suck, those teams wouldn't be spending as much time doubling up on the man. I'm not saying this happens all the time, but enough to make one realize that other teams offenses are paying a lot more attention to him these days. And there's a reason for that.


im gonna go back and rewatch all 3 games, because im not so sure thats true. itd be nice to think that hes getting double teamed, but i really dont think he is.

[Head Hog UK]

He is not getting doubled teamed, why double team a 250lb end ?.This guy is getting crucified for this thread but what he is saying has some truth to it, and yes I have seen all 3 games this year.
Andre Carter is a good pass rusher, but if I'm playing the Skins you run straight at Carter not away from him where he is a factor in pursuit

[Peter56s14gc]

i dont understand where this andre carter sux is coming from, hes quick, strong, and gets doubled. other than C. griffin he's the only Dlineman making plays. it would be nice to see someone on the other side to compliment him.

[RenegadeTK]

the only problem with AC is how weak he against the run

[Peter56s14gc]

He is not getting doubled teamed, why double team a 250lb end ?.This guy is getting crucified for this thread but what he is saying has some truth to it, and yes I have seen all 3 games this year.
Andre Carter is a good pass rusher, but if I'm playing the Skins you run straight at Carter not away from him where he is a factor in pursuit

why? because that 250pounder is quicker than most Olineman, so getting chipped by the guard or a back is an option for the offense.

[Peter56s14gc]

the only problem with AC is how weak he against the run

agreed, AC doesnt really plug wholes. but he is a decent PRusher.

[Nighthawk]

looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane.

[Head Hog UK]

why? because that 250pounder is quicker than most Olineman, so getting chipped by the guard or a back is an option for the offense.

If you are running away from him, you chip him with a single back or TE and certainly not a guard. If you run at him, there is no way any decent left tackle is going to need a chip against Carter, or a guard on a trap.

[sonsofwashington]

Forget Carter what about 0 catches Lyodd. I hope I spelt it worng

[ACW]

Yup, Carter really sucks: how about that safety today? :laugh:

[Isifhan]

I'm surprised no one has hit on this. It seems like every long run against the skins has involved this guy getting shoved back 20 yards. He can't hold his ground at all. He has two sacks on the season and people are willing to forget that he gets run over constantly. I'm surprised teams haven't been running to his side more often considering the success last season. It should be a crime for our coaches to allow a 252lbs DE out on the field on every down.


Good call on this one.... :laugh:

[mAshparie36]

Yup, Carter really sucks: how about that safety today? :laugh:

i know seriously? carter is doing freakin great

[#98QBKiller]

Yup, Carter really sucks: how about that safety today? :laugh:


:laugh:

[TheGift]

It was hilarious how Dre just tossed that Lineman out the way :laugh: Maybe all those days were he was the last one in the weight room is paying off

[SUSkinsFan]

I'm surprised no one has hit on this. It seems like every long run against the skins has involved this guy getting shoved back 20 yards. He can't hold his ground at all. He has two sacks on the season and people are willing to forget that he gets run over constantly. I'm surprised teams haven't been running to his side more often considering the success last season. It should be a crime for our coaches to allow a 252lbs DE out on the field on every down.

Tell me sir, how does that shoe leather taste

[John Madden]

Andre Carter Sucks.
Great call. He looks terrible today doesn't he? :rolleyes:

You gonna review the game and have some more criticism next week?

[terpfan]

LMAO at this thread.

[Redskinloyal_1]

Exactly its like me saying moss is our worst reciever the guy who wrote this post is a chump.

[Vladimir L]

Doesnt he have like 3 sacks in 4 games ?

[#1Redskins]

All I have to say for Dre Carter is SAFETY baby.........

[TK]

Forget Carter what about 0 catches Lyodd. I hope I spelt it worng
It must be a full moon today.

[dfos81]

He's is TOTALLY ABUSING THE Lions LT :cheers:

[MonkFan8]

If by sucks, you mean is amazing......then I agree!

Seriously, he's undersized so he might not be amazing against the run, but few are better at rushing the passer.

[Monte51Coleman]

Great thread bump. :laugh:

[Blackest Eyes]

Carter was a beast today.

[dfos81]

I'm surprised no one has hit on this. It seems like every long run against the skins has involved this guy getting shoved back 20 yards. He can't hold his ground at all. He has two sacks on the season and people are willing to forget that he gets run over constantly. I'm surprised teams haven't been running to his side more often considering the success last season. It should be a crime for our coaches to allow a 252lbs DE out on the field on every down.


WHERE IS D'PABLO?!? It should be a crime to allow you to make any new threads :laugh:

[Streater101]

Make that 4 in 4 games. Thats pace for 16 if my math is any good.

[TheLongshot]

One thing I could see today is that Carter had no problem going inside, particularly on that safety.

Jason

[[[ghost]]]

I thought he had 3? Who cares, anybody that can punch away a 300 pount LT is superb.

[sens11]

How did I know that this thread would resurface....


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[dfos81]

bumpty, bump, bump. Where are you D'Pablo?
(in Ricky's voice from I Love Lucy) You have some explaining to do :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Execution56]

Make that 4 in 4 games. Thats pace for 16 if my math is any good.

That is good math... I like that..

:packsuck:

[RedskinsMarchingBand]

can u say safety

[RFK Lives]

I think the name of this thread can be changed now. AC was the real deal today and putting together a solid season.

[#98QBKiller]

D'Pablo sucks

[cozmikbuffalo]

Tell me, how DO YOU eat your crow?? With a fork and knife or just with you hands cause you got a big mans plate full crow coming your way dude.

You may be one of those guys wanting to throw Carlos under the Bus along with Lloyd eh?? Well, anyway have a good time cooking and eating that big bird pie you got coming.

[RedskinsRoll05]

He sure didn't today

[isle-hawg]

:wtf: Were you watching today's game? That guys is a machine.

[Taylor 21]

D'Pablo sucks

I second that.

[RammsteinSkins]

I second that.I TRIPLE THAT!!!

[SkinsWizCubsDukes]

Good Humor

[Tarhog]

I'm really tired of this thread title. I think D'Pablo needs to be honest, acknowledge that Carter is having a great season, and change it. Or people could stop bumping this thread. I mean, after I have that is :)

[Destructis]

Why stop bumping it when it's so much fun to read after Carter played like he did today and so far this season.

[Reic]

D'Pablo was OWNED by Tarhog :)

[[[ghost]]]

When I first opened the edited thread, I was like "whose D'Pable?"

[Tarhog]

Who, me? :)

[Teller]

Who, me? :)

:notworthy

[dfos81]

D'Pablo was OWNED by Tarhog :)

:cheers: Gotta love ES! ;) Good job Tarhog!

[No_Pressure]

This thread suddenly became good. :)

[MEANDWARF]

Hello! AC defensive player of the week! What's your problem?!?!

[DCranon21]

I wonder if he logged on today. :silly:

[Clemenza1112]

I'm surprised no one has hit on this. It seems like every long run against the skins has involved this guy getting shoved back 20 yards. He can't hold his ground at all. He has two sacks on the season and people are willing to forget that he gets run over constantly. I'm surprised teams haven't been running to his side more often considering the success last season. It should be a crime for our coaches to allow a 252lbs DE out on the field on every down.
__________________
THE FUTURE AND PRESENT:


Member: 10048

This is the thread from the Roc.

Get over last year its a new year and we are playing pretty good, so suck it!!!:point2sky

[D'Pablo]

WTF is this?

[MonkFan8]

WTF is this?You getting called out for making a moronic thread? :cool:

[dfos81]

WTF is this?

Its called getting :owned: :laugh: :applause: Gotta love ES!

[TK]

WTF is this?
You being Tarpwn3d.

Duh.

[D'Pablo]

Who hacked my account and changed the thread name? Or should I ask who is the mod that hacked my account?

[No_Pressure]

Who hacked my account and changed the thread name? Or should I ask who is the mod that hacked my account?

It's not hacking. Mods can change the title of any thread they want, especially when the title is so horribly incorrect.

[TK]

Who hacked my account and changed the thread name? Or should I ask who is the mod that hacked my account?
Settle down. No one hacked your account.

Your crow is being served.

[DCranon21]

None one hacked your account. You started the thread of Andre Carter sucks, now you gotta come in and eat your **** that you've started.

[Tarhog]

Who hacked my account and changed the thread name? Or should I ask who is the mod that hacked my account?


Lighten up :laugh:

OBVIOUSLY, I changed the thread title (knowing full well you'd change it back). At least it got you back to the thread to defend your initial posts.

I thought it was funny anyway.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Damn, D'Pablo!!!! Wow son, maybe you should think again before making wild claims like that! (http://www.dpablo.justgotowned.com/)

[stwasm]

WTF is this?

Maybe you should call out another Redskins player so he'll have a big game next week?

[LD0506]

I thought it was funny anyway.

I think if you took a vote it would be a landslide, this was one of the funnier things in the Stadium lately :applause:

[MattGeorge85]

Damn, D'Pablo!!!! Wow son, maybe you should think again before making wild claims like that! (http://www.dpablo.justgotowned.com/)

All hail the Spaceman!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, he just made a site!!!!!!!!

[Tarhog]

Damn, D'Pablo!!!! Wow son, maybe you should think again before making wild claims like that! (http://www.dpablo.justgotowned.com/)



I don't care who you are. That there is funny.

[D'Pablo]

You should remove yourself as a mod, Tarhog. I have no problem defending myself. The Lions can't protect their QB. Kitna was the most sacked QB in the NFL coming into this game. The Lions didn't bother running until the second half, and it worked! I saw Carter get run out of the play on every draw they ran.

[KDawg]

You should remove yourself as a mod, Tarhog. I have no problem defending myself. The Lions can't protect their QB. Kitna was the most sacked QB in the NFL coming into this game. The Lions didn't bother running until the second half, and it worked! I saw Carter get run out of the play on every draw they ran.

Not going to eat your crow, huh?

Going to continue to make excuses, huh?

Gee, I wonder why Tarhog changed your thread title. You sound like a woman. Man up.

[dfos81]

Aww D'Pablo is sad b/c he got :owned: today :laugh:

[goldbean]

From one Skins fan to another: Eat it like a man. Don't embarrass yourself like this. Retain whatever credibility you have left and acknowledge reality.

Hail Skins!


You should remove yourself as a mod, Tarhog. I have no problem defending myself. The Lions can't protect their QB. Kitna was the most sacked QB in the NFL coming into this game. The Lions didn't bother running until the second half, and it worked! I saw Carter get run out of the play on every draw they ran.

[Tarhog]

You should remove yourself as a mod, Tarhog. I have no problem defending myself. The Lions can't protect their QB. Kitna was the most sacked QB in the NFL coming into this game. The Lions didn't bother running until the second half, and it worked! I saw Carter get run out of the play on every draw they ran.


See, now you're just making yourself look bad.

You wanna get your feelings hurt, okay, thats fine. Doesn't change the fact that a lot of guys have an issue with your position, and you continue to ignore their comments in a thread YOU started.

And seriously, it was a joke.

As for removing myself as a mod, whatever, do you really think I care about that? Hey Art - please remove me as a mod :laugh: He'd be doing me a big favor.... Maybe you'd be interested in the job D'Pablo - that'd be the ultimate revenge.

[No_Pressure]

You should remove yourself as a mod

I think it's a lot more likely you get removed as a poster than Tarhog removes himself as a mod :2cents:

[DCranon21]

Damn, D'Pablo!!!! Wow son, maybe you should think again before making wild claims like that! (http://www.dpablo.justgotowned.com/)

Now that is some funny **** right there. :laugh: :laugh:

[tr1]

There are a bunch of negative nancies missing today...

[LD0506]

Oh fer crissakes, have the sack to man up and admit you were wrong instead just pretending your clue wasn't defective.

[Art]

You should remove yourself as a mod, Tarhog. I have no problem defending myself. The Lions can't protect their QB. Kitna was the most sacked QB in the NFL coming into this game. The Lions didn't bother running until the second half, and it worked! I saw Carter get run out of the play on every draw they ran.

This is a mix of insanity and ignorance, tipped wildly toward ignorance. Sometimes you just get to look at the sky and admit it is blue, brother. Carter is not the game's best against the run. There is no doubt about it. But, absolutely everything about his current level of play is what you call really good. Teams are starting to chip him and pay a ton of attention to him. It's a sign of how much of a difference to the GOOD he's currently making. Try to enjoy it.

[Spaceman Spiff]

You should remove yourself as a mod, Tarhog. I have no problem defending myself. The Lions can't protect their QB. Kitna was the most sacked QB in the NFL coming into this game. The Lions didn't bother running until the second half, and it worked! I saw Carter get run out of the play on every draw they ran.

You know, if you just man up and take it on the chin and say you were wrong, this would all go away.

But since you're gonna be thickheaded about it still, we're just gonna keep piling on.

www.Dpablo.justgotowned.com

[stwasm]

Damn, D'Pablo!!!! Wow son, maybe you should think again before making wild claims like that! (http://www.dpablo.justgotowned.com/)

Now that, my friend, is the funniest thing I've EVER seen on the boards, and there have been some good ones! :notworthy :rotflmao:

[DCranon21]

D'Pablo, take it like a man and eat it. All will be forgiven after today. ;)

[Rskins91]

You should remove yourself as a mod, Tarhog. I have no problem defending myself. The Lions can't protect their QB. Kitna was the most sacked QB in the NFL coming into this game. The Lions didn't bother running until the second half, and it worked! I saw Carter get run out of the play on every draw they ran.

Oh, did you also see the play towards the end of the game where he crashed inside and tackled the guy on a draw?

Or how about the safety where he just threw the tackle to the ground?

I could go on. Just admit it; Carter did well today, despite what your little mind is telling you. :)

[bedlamVR]

Yah Targhog ... boo D'Pablo ... come on dude man up and stop whinning...

[Killerbo]

You know, if you just man up and take it on the chin and say you were wrong, this would all go away.

But since you're gonna be thickheaded about it still, we're just gonna keep piling on.

www.Dpablo.justgotowned.com (http://www.Dpablo.justgotowned.com)

Thats just plain wrong!!!!:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[TK]

You should remove yourself as a mod, Tarhog.
See now. That would end up as 1 for 1 trade. We'd have to remove you as a poster to balance it all out. :)

[dfos81]

You should remove yourself as a mod, Tarhog. I have no problem defending myself. The Lions can't protect their QB. Kitna was the most sacked QB in the NFL coming into this game. The Lions didn't bother running until the second half, and it worked! I saw Carter get run out of the play on every draw they ran.

On a draw :doh: , man you must not no much about football and why teams run draws.
Maybe b/c the rush was hurting them. The problem w/ you is you didn't mention anything about how bad the Lions are until after we kicked their butts :laugh:

You sound alot like the same idiots who griped all offseason about GW's scheme and how are D wouldn't be any better. Maybe you should do like they are and either man up and admit your way off or just not show up.

Now we all can remember D'Pablo as D'Pablo SUCKS! :cheers:

[KDawg]

This guy is definitely getting what's coming to him. He could have come back and said he was just reacting out of pure emotional distress and it would have went away quickly. Instead he moans like a female and he's making it much worse on himself...

HOORRAY!!!! Bad decisions!

[DCranon21]

See now. That would end up as 1 for 1 trade. We'd have to remove you as a poster to balance it all out. :)

TK..he's mad because he knows he was wrong from the start. Now he doesn't want to eat it, so he's taking it out on someone else. :laugh:

[One Shot]

Sorry, D'Pablo.

[moviedude25]

LOL @ the title :D

[dfos81]

See now. That would end up as 1 for 1 trade. We'd have to remove you as a poster to balance it all out. :)

How bout just NNT for D'PabloSucks b/c we all enjoy Tarhog

[DCranon21]

D'Pablo, just apologize and take it like a man. We've all made mistakes before.

[KDawg]

LOL @ the title :D

It just keeps getting better and better!

[Bat~man]

You should remove yourself as a mod, Tarhog. I have no problem defending myself. The Lions can't protect their QB. Kitna was the most sacked QB in the NFL coming into this game. The Lions didn't bother running until the second half, and it worked! I saw Carter get run out of the play on every draw they ran.

Wow , I seen some ownage on this site , but you sir , got pwn'd worse than any other pwn'ing I have ever seen , I don't know what you did but dag lol :laugh:

[DCranon21]

How bout just NNT for D'PabloSucks b/c we all enjoy Tarhog

Also give him a new avi and title. :laugh:

[dfos81]

D'Pablo sucks and this thread will not change again until D'Pablo says sorry. :laugh:


I love ES! :cheers:

[Spaceman Spiff]

LOL just saw the new thread title. Hilarious.

[Tarhog]

All kidding aside, we won a huge game today by dominating our opponent. Carter's play was a big part of it. We're all Redskin's fans, and I'd hope D'Pablo would be in too good a mood after a win like that to get overly upset by some ribbing.

[dfos81]

Also give him a new avi and title. :laugh:

Agreed :cheers: So many things he's deserved to be called now. I'll calm down now before I get going too far.

[tr1]

The sad part of all this is when one can't distinguish the poster from an avid fran from another team.

ES has too many of these guys.

[D'Pablo]

This guy is definitely getting what's coming to him. He could have come back and said he was just reacting out of pure emotional distress and it would have went away quickly. Instead he moans like a female and he's making it much worse on himself...

HOORRAY!!!! Bad decisions!

It's more like being a man and defending myself. Carter made an amazing play to get the safety, but outside of that, it was the same old. For the other posters, I never went on record as saying the Lions were bad, but as far as protecting the QB, I think their record speaks for itself. If Carter steps it up against real Left Tackles, I will gladly eat my words. I don't root for Redskins to fail.

[DCranon21]

Agreed :cheers: So many things he's deserved to be called now. I'll calm down now before I get going too far.

Same here, but I can't say for other posters. :laugh:

[dfos81]

All kidding aside, we won a huge game today by dominating our opponent. Carter's play was a big part of it. We're all Redskin's fans, and I'd hope D'Pablo would be in too good a mood after a win like that to get overly upset by some ribbing.

I'd hope he'd be in too good a mood too, but by his latest comments he doesn't seem to understand how bad he is making himself look now.

All he can say is AC got blocked out of few draw plays :doh: Man this guy deserves NNT at least, especially if he can't admit that Carter played a good game and made some game changing plays, 1 being the safety were he bitched slapped the LT for the Lions :cheers:

[Whiskeypeet]

The sad part of all this is when one can't distinguish the poster from an avid fran from another team.

ES has too many of these guys.

Yep and their are a bunch of other pansies just like D'Pablo that think Carter sucks, and have repeatedly said as much, that are too afraid to come into this thread and man up. They can get bent.

[DCranon21]

It's more like being a man and defending myself. Carter made an amazing play to get the safety, but outside of that, it was the same old. For the other posters, I never went on record as saying the Lions were bad, but as far as protecting the QB, I think their record speaks for itself. If Carter steps it up against real Left Tackles, I will gladly eat my words. I don't root for Redskins to fail.


The same what? Tell me what Kevin Jones or Tatum Bell did on our defense?

[goldbean]

5 solo tackles, 2 sacks, multiple QB hurries/pressures. How could anyone possibly criticize Carter's performance today? The facts do speak for themselves, which is why--even in this sea of contrarians--you stand alone.

Seriously, your pride is blinding you.


It's more like being a man and defending myself. Carter made an amazing play to get the safety, but outside of that, it was the same old. For the other posters, I never went on record as saying the Lions were bad, but as far as protecting the QB, I think their record speaks for itself. If Carter steps it up against real Left Tackles, I will gladly eat my words. I don't root for Redskins to fail.

[dfos81]

Carter made an amazing play to get the safety, but outside of that, it was the same old.

Man thats really weak, but you've made your name well known now.

Good job D'Pablo :thumbsup: you have officially shown us your true colors and man do they stink like :pooh:

[ntotoro]

Seriously, your pride is blinding you.

More like hubris... :laugh:

[DCranon21]

Man thats really weak, but you've made your name well known now.

Good job D'Pablo :thumbsup: you have officially shown us your true colors and man do they stink like :pooh:

Right, I want to know what game was he watching today? Couldn't of been the same we were watching. D'Pablo, come on man.

[D'Pablo]

5 solo tackles, 2 sacks, multiple QB hurries/pressures. How could anyone possibly criticize Carter's performance today? The facts do speak for themselves, which is why--even in this sea of contrarians--you stand alone.

Seriously, your pride is blinding you.

I posted this in the call-out thread before seeing this thread being bumped:

"Obviously I started the thread regarding Andre Carter, and well, he had an awesome game. I'd like to temper that by stating that Jon Kitna was the most sacked QB in the league BEFORE this game took place. Guys like Ray Edwards and Juqua Thomas had multiple sacks against the Lions, too. It also didn't occur to Mike Martz to run until the second half. Taking these two things into account, that play to get the safety was still incredibly impressive. That was a move I've never seen Carter pull out."

There's no pride involved when it comes to seeing a Skin pull it out after me criticizing him. I was in an awesome mood. Then I see a thread titled "D'Pablo Sucks." Are you telling me that if you saw "Goldbean Sucks" you wouldn't be the least bit angry? I've never attacked someone personally, and then to be attacked by a mod, of all people, just gets me pissed.

[stwasm]

5 solo tackles, 2 sacks, multiple QB hurries/pressures.

You're right, D'Pablo. We should just cut the man tomorrow.

[D'Pablo]

I'm surprised no one has hit on this. It seems like every long run against the skins has involved this guy getting shoved back 20 yards. He can't hold his ground at all. He has two sacks on the season and people are willing to forget that he gets run over constantly. I'm surprised teams haven't been running to his side more often considering the success last season. It should be a crime for our coaches to allow a 252lbs DE out on the field on every down.

[dfos81]

Its really simple D'Pablo, say your sorry to the mod and that AC played lights out today and just stop the whine w/ cheese act, it makes you look like a girly man :laugh:

[Art]

D'Pablo,

You have attacked someone personally. You attacked Andre Carter. You did so with fictional data and you've not allowed yourself to take a little back. Shame on you.

You wear Campbell's picture in your profile, which is good, but Campbell has been in ALL ways a lesser player than Carter this year. Figure this stuff out for yourself man.

[DCranon21]

Real classy title D man after a victory. Relax we've won. You're getting upset about nothing. It's the internet, don't take it serious :laugh:

[Major Harris]

I don't care who you are. That there is funny.
minus the baby in the microwave, yes, it was the funnies.

[D'Pablo]

Apologize for what? For having a thread I created turned into "D'Pablo Sucks"?

[Tarhog]

I posted this in the call-out thread before seeing this thread being bumped:

"Obviously I started the thread regarding Andre Carter, and well, he had an awesome game. I'd like to temper that by stating that Jon Kitna was the most sacked QB in the league BEFORE this game took place. Guys like Ray Edwards and Juqua Thomas had multiple sacks against the Lions, too. It also didn't occur to Mike Martz to run until the second half. Taking these two things into account, that play to get the safety was still incredibly impressive. That was a move I've never seen Carter pull out."

There's no pride involved when it comes to seeing a Skin pull it out after me criticizing him. I was in an awesome mood. Then I see a thread titled "D'Pablo Sucks." Are you telling me that if you saw "Goldbean Sucks" you wouldn't be the least bit angry? I've never attacked someone personally, and then to be attacked by a mod, of all people, just gets me pissed.


Seriously - it was clearly a joke - I didn't think you'd put out a hit on me, or I wouldn't have jerked your chain. You take yourself a little seriously, no?


Its really simple D'Pablo, say your sorry to the mod and that AC played lights out today and just stop the whine w/ cheese act, it makes you look like a girly man :laugh:

He doesn't owe me, or any other staff member an apology. He owes Andre Carter one though.

[DCranon21]

Apologize for what? For having a thread I created turned into "D'Pablo Sucks"?

You taking it too serious. Relax, get a drink, go run. Hell celebrate...WERE 3-1.

[Art]

Apologize for what? For having a thread I created turned into "D'Pablo Sucks"?

Apologize for being wrong, as you were. Apologize for making a reactionary, stupid thread after a tough game. Apologize for having no sense of humor. Apologize for not knowing the game well enough to know good play. You can pick, really :).

[SKINS FAN #56]

That's funny, the negativity out of nowhere.

Yeah man I mean fine you brought it up but please, atleast not today :laugh:

Enjoy the win while it lasts :applause:

[elkabong82]

I've never attacked someone personally,

Look at your thread title.

[dfos81]

So does AC still suck D'Pablo?

[cphil006]

Heck of a game by Andre Carter...

[dfos81]

Heck of a game by Andre Carter...

Yes it was, too bad D'Pablo can't admit that. He says he was the same old same old, except for a nice safety :doh:


Carter made an amazing play to get the safety, but outside of that, it was the same old.

[cphil006]

Apologize for being wrong, as you were. Apologize for making a reactionary, stupid thread after a tough game. Apologize for having no sense of humor. Apologize for not knowing the game well enough to know good play. You can pick, really :).

agreed.

D'Pablo,

Man up! And admit Andre Carter had a heck of a game and he is better than you give him credit for!!

amen. :laugh:

[cphil006]

Yes it was, too bad D'Pablo can't admit that. He says he was the same old same old, except for a nice safety :doh:

...and the sack to end the game...

[cphil006]

Apologize for what? For having a thread I created turned into "D'Pablo Sucks"?

Andre Carter... I think he's better than you think

[dfos81]

YO D'Pablo, when you make this statement


Carter made an amazing play to get the safety, but outside of that, it was the same old.

"It was the same old"? Do you mean the same old AC in the past 10 games or the same old AC from his 1st 10 gms?

Just wondering where your mind is at after watching him step it up down the stretch last year and carry it over to now.

Based on your previous post I belive your reffering to the same old AC from the 1st half of last year, right?

[Whiskeypeet]

agreed.

D'Pablo,

Man up! And admit Andre Carter had a heck of a game and he is better than you give him credit for!!

amen. :laugh:

Exactly and don't try to qualify your appology. Just do it.

[stwasm]

Exactly and don't try to qualify your appology. Just do it.

Seriously. Apologizing does not make you weak.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Way to be, D'Pablo! Stay classy!

[dfos81]

D"Pablo is letting his own arrogance get the best of him.
He has posted in another thread, I belive it was the Martz v.s. Saunders thread.
He says its a draw between Martz and Saunders :doh: , even after we dominate 34-3 and he still hasn't aplogized for attacking AC w/o any facts.

D"Pablo do you really wanna be known on ES as this?

[mistertim]

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y153/onetimeisawalemur/carter_dpablo.jpg

[John Madden]

Wow, just wow. :no:

[redskingluvr]

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y153/onetimeisawalemur/carter_dpablo.jpg

Wow. Potential post of the year material. I do belive the skins r back in town! Obviously mr Carter has been benefitting from some kickass coaching. And possibly some steroids.(joking)

A thread i cannot find was up earlier titled about a nic name for Sellers, well I haev one that fits Carter and perhaps Sellers too....maybe it will stick...
LoCo-Motive

[#98QBKiller]

This is the new paloff thread. **** off D'Pablo

[No_Pressure]

This is the new paloff thread. **** off D'Pablo

oh snap

[One Shot]

You're decision not to man up is very unwise, D'Pablo.

[WSHRedskins3ATLBraves3]

That's funny, you made maybe the worst thread in ES history and now it's bumped!

[redskingluvr]

Yeah but I think many opinions r that this is definitely not a bad thread, just the oppposite so..........

BUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dan T.]

It's like the freakin Taliban around here.

[Xero21]

I love how SO many fans on here are having to man up after this game, you'd think people would have had more faith.

Now they must pay.

[BillyKilmer]

It's like the freakin Taliban around here.
:applause: :applause: :applause:

[Sknsnation]

There are a bunch of negative nancies missing today... You got that right bro,:applause::cheers:

[stevenaa]

This site is great for taking people to task over their posts. That's a good thing. But forcing someone to apologize or change their position is ridiculous. He doesn't need to apologize for anything. He's entitled to his position, regardless of how stupid it is.

[Whiskeypeet]

This site is great for taking people to task over their posts. That's a good thing. But forcing someone to apologize or change their position is ridiculous. He doesn't need to apologize for anything. He's entitled to his position, regardless of how stupid it is.

Well then maybe he should just apologize for subjecting us to his stupid position.

[Art]

It's like the freakin Taliban around here.

Dan, baby, don't stay where you hate it. Feel free to wander.

[Art]

This site is great for taking people to task over their posts. That's a good thing. But forcing someone to apologize or change their position is ridiculous. He doesn't need to apologize for anything. He's entitled to his position, regardless of how stupid it is.

Actually, no Steve.

No one is entitled to be wrong. You aren't entitled to say something entirely untrue and refuse all fact and shared reality when asked to face it. You're entitled to have the data in front of you and form an intelligent thought. And when you don't, you'd better be ready to get hammered on it.

[Blondie]

This site is great for taking people to task over their posts. That's a good thing. But forcing someone to apologize or change their position is ridiculous. He doesn't need to apologize for anything. He's entitled to his position, regardless of how stupid it is.


And we know there are many on here who flip flop on their posts within 20 minutes of posting, don't we.

[Tarhog]

Being the guy who 'started' all this commotion, I think its beyond funny that the guy who started a pretty harsh, cruel call-out of a Redskin player thread (entirely unjustified in most fan's eyes to boot) is outraged because someone (me) inserted HIS name in the thread title. Everything was damn fine until someone said HE sucked :laugh:

Come on.

Thats good stuff.

So maybe the lesson is, don't post threads telling people they suck. Especially when they don't. I'll take the lesson to heart if you will D'Pablo :)

And getting a sense of humor would be good too.

[stevenaa]

And we know there are many on here who flip flop on their posts within 20 minutes of posting, don't we.


I'm not seeing your point.

[One Shot]

I'm not seeing your point.

Look at your post history, you will then know.

[turtle]

Carter is the man. Great game today.

[dfos81]

Being the guy who 'started' all this commotion, I think its beyond funny that the guy who started a pretty harsh, cruel call-out of a Redskin player thread (entirely unjustified in most fan's eyes to boot) is outraged because someone (me) inserted HIS name in the thread title. Everything was damn fine until someone said HE sucked :laugh:

Come on.

Thats good stuff.

So maybe the lesson is, don't post threads telling people they suck. Especially when they don't. I'll take the lesson to heart if you will D'Pablo :)

And getting a sense of humor would be good too.


Seems like he may be a lil stubborn. Maybe he'll come around after AC gets to Favre next week.

[Blondie]

I'm not seeing your point.


The point is that people go from one extreme to another about this team in a matter of minutes.

Case in point:


October-7th-2007, 12:26 PM
Posted By stevenaa
Re: OFFICIAL GAME THREAD SKINS/lions

Normally I'm excited to watch the game. Not many are televised. But, I had no emotion about watching the game. You just expect this crappy execution.


October-7th-2007, 01:20 PM
Posted By stevenaa
Re: OFFICIAL GAME THREAD SKINS/lions

THe play calling sucks. This is horrible. Now we give them the ball back. Terrible, terrible, terrible play calling.

And then you are so excited that you post a thread about how GREAT it will be on the board this week?

I realize we all wonder about the games and get excited on the game thread........but according to your first post, this is how you felt all week.

THAT is flip flop.

[tone_dubbz]

This thread is a joke.

[LD0506]

Blondpwn3d!

[Shadowplay]

I've had my doubts about Carter as well since he signed, but he has been our most consistent pass rusher this season. Look, we're getting more pressure from our front four than most people (including myself) would have thought possible. He also hasn't been a liability against the run.

[Taylor 21]

The point is that people go from one extreme to another about this team in a matter of minutes.

Case in point:





And then you are so excited that you post a thread about how GREAT it will be on the board this week?

I realize we all wonder about the games and get excited on the game thread........but according to your first post, this is how you felt all week.

THAT is flip flop.

Umm... Pwned.

[Tastes Like Chicken]

Nice, some great pwnage in this thread.

Tarhog, I don't care who ya are, that's some funny ****.:applause:

Haven't seen you in a while, Art, nice to see you back, and your eloquence with pwnage hasn't skipped a beat. :laugh:

[B&G]

D'Pablo, it seems you lack information you desparately need. Here you are, brother:

Crow Recipe

INGREDIENTS:
1 Small to medium enclosure
1 Crow, approximately 16" long
Duct tape, cut three pieces, each 3 to 4 inches in length
Dutch oven - fill with water to cover
1 large wooden mallet


Step 1:
Capture the crow. I'm telling you, it will "caw, caw, caw" like
murder, just so you know.

Step 2:
Once you have captured the bird, ready your duct tape to keep the
crow's beak firmly shut. Remember, a crow is much larger than, say,
the sweet morsel of a tit mouse, and must be handled firmly rather
than casually (batting it about until it's senseless). You simply
can't do this with crows, so ready your duct tape.

Step 3:
Wrap that duct tape from one side of the bird's beak to the other. If
you do not steady the beak first, you may end up with a few randy
bites plus that hideous caw-ing will not be stopped until you do so.
Wrap the tape round and round until the bird's beak is firmly closed
and it can no longer make a sound, all the while making sure the nose
holes (or as referred to technically, the "nares") are not
obstructed.

Step 4:
On the counter, near the stove, tape (with the remaining pieces of
tape) down each foot of the crow's.

Step 5:
With the dutch oven filled with water, enough to cover the entire
crow, light the fire beneath it until it begins to boil, the water
that is, not the crow.

Step 6:
Place the mallet close to the crow's feet. Watch the eyes of the crow
when you do this one small thing.
(Note: Not to alarm you but the bird will not stand still for all of
these goings-on and will struggle desperately, which is all part of
it, I'm afraid. But, please, continue on.)

Step 7:
This is the part when even I get a little queasy, because it seems to
pain the bird so much. Well, we have to now, don't we? So, let's
proceed...

Ahem, take on a snarly cat face, look scary and grisly...

grab that mallet (quit shaking, it must be done)...

grab that mallet, the one close to the crow's feet...

the one next to the water pot boiling...

and bring it down with the hardest thwack, you have in your power with
which to do so, directly onto...

the counter AS NEAR TO the crow, as possible!

No, no, don't kill the crow. This wouldn't be at all humane. You don't
actually eat the thing. Good gracious. They're nasty tasting birds,
crows are. You simply scare the living daylights out of it. Trust me,
once you let it go it will never "caw, caw, caw" like that again.
Oh, yes...

Step 8:
Tell the bird it's noise is abominable and ask it, "will you promise
to never speak so harshly again?" It will, undoubtedly, reply with an
apologetic "yes!" at which time you can take the tape from its beak
and feet and let it go. But, dear lord, don't eat the thing.

OR

You could avoid all of this by simply apologizing to your favorite player and mine, Andre Carter. I stongly advise this course of action, brother.

[ThePreciating]

Apologize for what? For having a thread I created turned into "D'Pablo Sucks"?

Apologize you jerk!

[Monkart]

The original thread was absolutely a VERY poor observation of AC's play from D'Pablo, but what it's turned into is getting pretty ugly. Kind of like a public stoning. I can only hope that the Mods feel he's paid the price soon and close this thing, so it's not on the front pages. It was a great game and AC KICKED ASS, along with pretty much the rest of the team, lets not celebrate it by stuffing crow down a delusional poster throat.

[BillyKilmer]

The original thread was absolutely a VERY poor observation of AC's play from D'Pablo, but what it's turned into is getting pretty ugly. Kind of like a public stoning. I can only hope that the Mods feel he's paid the price soon and close this thing, so it's not on the front pages. It was a great game and AC KICKED ASS, along with pretty much the rest of the team, lets not celebrate it by stuffing crow down a delusional poster throat.
Good Call thanks for the reminder