Lets be patient about Campbell

[909997]

Lets be real Romo is gonna take his team to the playoffs this year. He will also go to his 2nd probowl. I know that is gonna upset alot of redskins fans. Just be patient about campbell, i know most of you all are gonna critize campbell for having a average season. Campbell is not good as romo right now, Romo devloped pretty fast.

All iam saying is take it easy on the QB. Cause i know hes gonna get alot of heat, because romo is making it happen and campbell is not. 2008 is gonna be Campbells breakout season, this year expect him to be average.


just my 21 cents...........

[Buford]

I don't think anybody is calling for Campbell's head or anything....or comparing him to Romo. A guy who got a lot of bench time in one system. Its just a different situation.

[Ingtar]

I think a lot of people forget that Romo is a 5th year player. The guy just started to play last year, but he has time in the NFL and had vets to learn from. It is like comparing apples and oranges.

[909997]

I don't think anybody is calling for Campbell's head or anything....or comparing him to Romo. A guy who got a lot of bench time in one system. Its just a different situation.

ofcourse no one is talking about campbell now but soon as we lose another game the talks will begin. Heck i herd some say make collins the starter after the loss to giants.

[TheREALJBird]

:whoknows: I haven't heard anybody say they haven't given up on Campbell at all. I think he's done a pretty good job thus far and he's only going to get better

[SkinSince87]

our offense handcuffs Campbell

[Forehead]

No one is calling for Campbell's head, I've been pretty impressed with him myself. As was stated above, let's not forget that Romo is 3 years older than Campbell. When Campbell is in his 5th year, I expect he'll be doing some pretty impressive things.



Unless another, worse Brett Kiesel incident happens.:mad:

[darrell1106]

No one is calling for Campbell's head, I've been pretty impressed with him myself. As was stated above, let's not forget that Romo is 3 years older than Campbell. When Campbell is in his 5th year, I expect he'll be doing some pretty impressive things.



Unless another, worse Brett Kiesel incident happens.:mad:
I think he's only one year older but I get the point. He has a lot more nfl experience no doubt.

[mojobo]

I really havent heard anything but positive things about campbell. at least you got his name right though I do see a lot of cambell threads that makes you wonder if people pay attention at all.

[skinfan2k]

Saunders complex offense compared to Garrett's quick to learn offense

[mistertim]

Saunders complex offense compared to Garrett's quick to learn offense

You mean the Saunders/Gibbs bastardized hybrid compared to Garrett's quick to learn offense.

[armada58]

Patience is the key with Campbell. I love what I see so far. It truly is a pleasure as a fan to watch a franchise QB Develop in front of our eyes.

Lets not be like Eagles Fans. If you have one, take your finger off the hair trigger. Enjoy this maturation. It is a rare thing.

If you are with me (and many of you are), lets continue to watch Campbell and embrace the future of this franchise. There will come a time very soon when we experience many more ups than downs.

[REEGSKINS]

i think people will be patient with him. he looks very good for this stage in his career.

[SnyderMustGo]

Holy excuses batman! Look, Campbell may get better, but he better show signs quick of significant improvement. The excuses you guys are throwing out there for him are as weak as Norv's head-coaching abilities.


Saunders complex offense compared to Garrett's quick to learn offense

Ahh, this is bullcrap. No offense takes this long to learn. Payton's didn't take that long in NO. Garrett's didn't take this long in Dallas. Martz didn't take this long in Detroit.


A guy who got a lot of bench time in one system.

Uhh, no. Romo's system changed; he is not in the same system. Campbell has had longer in this system then Romo has had in his.


let's not forget that Romo is 3 years older than Campbell. When Campbell is in his 5th year, I expect he'll be doing some pretty impressive things.

Uh... what? Romo is 1 year and 8 months older than Campbell. Campbell is in his 3rd year; Romo in his 5th. Who cares? The difference being, of course, is that Romo came out undrafted from a Division 1-AA school. Campbell was a 4 year starter at a National contender and was a guy we blew 2 picks for in the first round.

Campbell should be further along than he is. Romo shouldn't. No one is going to criticize Campbell for not being Romo; Romo is a freak. But Campbell in his 3rd year as a 1st round draft pick should be having a very good game now and again.

We shouldn't have to wait until his 4th year for him to get good.

[Cringer Eats You]

I don't think I have heard one negative thing about Campbell? He has shown us poise and power that we have not seen in years. Im with ya Armada, hes our future and I think a lot of people realize that.

[Johnny White Guy]

Patience is the key with Campbell. I love what I see so far. It truly is a pleasure as a fan to watch a franchise QB Develop in front of our eyes.

Lets not be like Eagles Fans. If you have one, take your finger off the hair trigger. Enjoy this maturation. It is a rare thing.

If you are with me (and many of you are), lets continue to watch Campbell and embrace the future of this franchise. There will come a time very soon when we experience many more ups than downs.I like your attitude

[ldysknzfn1]

Lets be real Romo is gonna take his team to the playoffs this year. He will also go to his 2nd probowl. I know that is gonna upset alot of redskins fans.
just my 21 cents...........

I just can't bring myself to say that team's name and playoffs and SB in the same sentence! I can't do it! I won't do it...even if it's true...I will NOT say it...It's the principle of the thing;) . God help me if they win it all...they will come out of the freakin woodwork for sure then! UUUGGGHHHHH! I can't wait until they lose their first game this season...they need it...they're getting uppity...those half assed fans of theirs! I swear if I hear one more...4-0 4-0 chant I'm gonna snap and I won't be responsible for who gets hurt:mad: :mad:

*edit*Campbell's going to be good. It will take time...I cant' wait personally. It's going to be great!

[pjfootballer]

I just can't bring myself to say that team's name and playoffs and SB in the same sentence! I can't do it! I won't do it...even if it's true...I will NOT say it...It's the principle of the thing;) . God help me if they win it all...they will come out of the freakin woodwork for sure then! UUUGGGHHHHH! I can't wait until they lose their first game this season...they need it...they're getting uppity...those half assed fans of theirs! I swear if I hear one more...4-0 4-0 chant I'm gonna snap and I won't be responsible for who gets hurt:mad: :mad:

*edit*Campbell's going to be good. It will take time...I cant' wait personally. It's going to be great!

The ATN has become unbearable. Too many Puke threads started.

[phishisthegreatstuff]

Campbell should continue to get better every game, but if he starts to decline or stay still in his progress I will get nervous.

[pjfootballer]

Uh... what? Romo is 1 year and 8 months older than Campbell. Campbell is in his 3rd year; Romo in his 5th. Who cares? The difference being, of course, is that Romo came out undrafted from a Division 1-AA school. Campbell was a 4 year starter at a National contender and was a guy we blew 2 picks for in the first round.

Campbell should be further along than he is. Romo shouldn't. No one is going to criticize Campbell for not being Romo; Romo is a freak. But Campbell in his 3rd year as a 1st round draft pick should be having a very good game now and again.

We shouldn't have to wait until his 4th year for him to get good.

I kinda of agree with you, but not quite with the same knee jerk reaction. It's as if God continues to punish us. Alot of teams are looking for starting QB's and Dallass pulls one out of their ass. Just our luck against these bastards as always. Add it to the Thanksgiving day game, 1979 game, 1989 game etc, etc. Romo- Undrafted FA from Division 1-AA Eastern Illinois. Plays like a pro bowler after 15 starts.

Campbell- 4 year starter at a Division 1 school in perhaps the best conference in college, first round pick and gave up 2 picks for. But we have to wait 2 to 3 years for him to "develop". Sad as it is, I'm willing to let JC develope, but he needs to step it up starting this week.

[SKINS FAN #56]

I dont think anyone has criticized Campbell much. If you ask me, I think he's done his part so far each game. He does what the coaches tell him to do. Now I wanna see what he'll do if they put a little more of the load on him.

[Dance04]

Holy excuses batman! Look, Campbell may get better, but he better show signs quick of significant improvement. The excuses you guys are throwing out there for him are as weak as Norv's head-coaching abilities.



Ahh, this is bullcrap. No offense takes this long to learn. Payton's didn't take that long in NO. Garrett's didn't take this long in Dallas. Martz didn't take this long in Detroit.



Uhh, no. Romo's system changed; he is not in the same system. Campbell has had longer in this system then Romo has had in his.



Uh... what? Romo is 1 year and 8 months older than Campbell. Campbell is in his 3rd year; Romo in his 5th. Who cares? The difference being, of course, is that Romo came out undrafted from a Division 1-AA school. Campbell was a 4 year starter at a National contender and was a guy we blew 2 picks for in the first round.

Campbell should be further along than he is. Romo shouldn't. No one is going to criticize Campbell for not being Romo; Romo is a freak. But Campbell in his 3rd year as a 1st round draft pick should be having a very good game now and again.

We shouldn't have to wait until his 4th year for him to get good.

Sadly, I agree. Campbell has been at best average in his career. Compare him to Palmer. In Plamers first full year he tore defenses apart. As much as i want him to succeed, he has alot to prove IMO

*** EDIT:*** Also i do think that Campbel is being under utilized, which may be bringing him down

[skinthemboys]

*** EDIT:*** Also i do think that Campbel is being under utilized, which may be bringing him down


I havent seen JC put a game together where the coaches should "turn him loose". I just dont see it. His accuracy is a problem. He needs to improve his accuracy bigtime :2cents:

[FanboyOf91]

Campbell is still developing and 2007 is his first fulltime season.

Don't be surprised if he puts up some bad games.

Also, remember Peyton Manning had a crappy first year too.

[RenegadeTK]

yeah.... his accuracy is the biggest problem right now. he has missed guys in every level of the field. i want to see the automatic JC that gibbs kept talking about

[Touchdown Redskins]

Although I think I see a lot of easily correctable mistakes in JC's game, I'm willing to let that play out this year with the hope that he'll improve. If he doesn't improve, then something is up, because we've given him every opportunity to do so. The only thing I can foresee holding him back is the coaches.

[Park City Skins]

I have no real criticism of Jason. Jason hasn't surprised me that much so far this season. He's doing what I thought he would do coming into it. Playing well at times. Making good decisions, looking the field over, making some good passes. Then at times he gets in his own way. Throws the ball in a bit of a hurry, pulls the ball down a few times when he should be getting rid of it, and of course, the overthrows and interceptions. And those are the ones we fans see. There are, of course, the ones we can't see. A pass going to one receiver when it should have gone somewhere else for instance. In this instance, a quote from Troy Aikman from back when he was at his peak with the Cowboys comes to mind. Coaches asked him, (during his first season I believe), why he didn't throw to the one receiver that one play. Troy answered "He wasn't open".
"Troy", they said, "In the NFL, that is open."

Jason has surprised me,mildly, with his growth each game.

You can see sometimes, why the coaches may not be willing to completely let him go out there because of the mistakes he's made. However, in that last series with the game on the line, the coaches showed confidence in Jason, as they have before. Of course, they didn't have much choice either. Pressure time nobody had time to think too much. Whatever reigns they had been using on holding Jason back, they let them go. It seemed as though the coaches said "Well, what the hell? We're going to sink or swim with this young man and maybe it's time to just let him go. If he blows it, he blows it. He'll have to continue to learn to do better. If he doesn't, maybe we win this thing and that'll help him too. Not a lot of time left, so not a lot of time for him to think out there. And that's a good thing. Thinking too much causes problems. either way, he just may turn the corner after this one."

First play was the "Uh oh" Jason. Second play was a little of both. But after that, with the game on the line and the clock not being on the wrong side of the 2 minute warning, Jason calmed down. He overcame his mistakes and those of others, (for the most part), and in quick order, at the team down there threatening. He did it with poise and good, accurate passes. Yeah, the pass to Sellers was a bit behind him and a bit hurried, and he did hurry his offense a bit more than he should have for the final play, but he got them down there and that just might be enough to give him that extra bit of confidence to make that next step, and that will make it easier for the coaches to take advantage of what he can do. Nothing but patience from me here.

[SkinsFanMania]

Campbell has a lot of poise and pocket presence and doesn't get flustered under pressure. These are talents that can't be taught. Intermediate and short accuracy is what Campbell needs to improve on and these are the throws that many quarterbacks have a tough time with coming out of college. These can be tought....

Campbell is the future and will be as good if not better than Romo in the future, but the only valid excuse is that this is Romo's 5th year compared to Campbell's 3rd year.

[DMBAdict04]

If you look at Campbell on the field, he shows a poise that isn't present in many QBs at all. Romo though he gets the ball down the field, he doesn't look comfortable doing so. Did you guys not see him running backwards last week? Yes he turned it into a positive play but I truly believe there is a lot of luck factoring into his game and eventually the media and attention will get to him and the Cowboys. Remember the playoffs last year?

As for our future...I think it looks great! I do agree with the other posts though we need to start seeing some immediate results. Campbell's pocket prescence is by far the most impressive aspect of his game. His ability to feel pressure without seeing it and to deliver the ball while the pressure is there is a talent that not many are gifted with. I think our offense as a unit is in a pickle right now and though many like to think they have a solidified answer for fixing things, I don't think there is one.

As fans of this team, we need to stay faithful and hope for the best. Nothing will change overnight...A lot of people are pointing fingers in 20 different directions and as sad as it is, that 20 is probably a fairly accurate number. Gibbs, Vinny, Dan, Al, B. Lloyd, Portis, Betts, Andre Carter, Smoot...you name it and its been talked about. Have a little faith.

One thing that can be said...we look a lot better than we have in the past so keep up the support for our Redskins and they'll try and pull through. WE BELIEVE! HTTR! -Wes

[corrupt3d]

I'm just afraid (assuming Gibbs leaves after next year) a new coach will do to his development


granted, at that point, I hope he is developed enough to worry about it, but when you look at Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Big Ben (I say that cauase I cant spell his last name), Matt Hasselbeck, and to some extent Romo, they all benefited from being under the tutelage of one coach for their development years.


I hope it will be the same for Campbell (at least keep Saunders if Gibbs leaves)

[Hiro]

Sadly, I agree. Campbell has been at best average in his career. Compare him to Palmer. In Plamers first full year he tore defenses apart. As much as i want him to succeed, he has alot to prove IMO

*** EDIT:*** Also i do think that Campbel is being under utilized, which may be bringing him down

Dude, Carson Palmer didn't tear defenses apart his first year. He made the Bengals respectable sure, but they were 8-8, and he threw 18 tds to 18 ints. He had his breakout year in '05 when he then tore defenses apart. He had his growing pains, even after sitting a year like Jason did. All QBs have their growing pains.

Here's the key difference between Tony Romo and Jason Campbell: Tony Romo is solid now .. but he's NOT going to get any better. He's hit his peak, what we see here is what he is. Jason has an enourmous amount of potential. All of his shortcomings right now are all correctable through experience and training. The guy is never flustered, he's posied in the pocket, he has all the physical attributes we could want in a franchice QB, and he's going to be here for a long time. Trust me when I say he was worth the picks ... and he will be worth our patience.

:cheers:

[RocketCitySkins]

And don't forget that JC has had 6 different offensive co-ordinators in 7 years. I''m guessing none of the other quarterbacks mentioned have dealt with learning a totally new offensive scheme 6 years in a row.

[FFskinsfan72]

I've been fending off nay sayers here. I just tell them to shut up and that he is new this year *not including the few games last year. He's got a long way to go. Just be patient and if you can't go be a Cowgirls' fan....lol:D

[andyburd]

Holy excuses batman! Look, Campbell may get better, but he better show signs quick of significant improvement. The excuses you guys are throwing out there for him are as weak as Norv's head-coaching abilities.



Ahh, this is bullcrap. No offense takes this long to learn. Payton's didn't take that long in NO. Garrett's didn't take this long in Dallas. Martz didn't take this long in Detroit.



Uhh, no. Romo's system changed; he is not in the same system. Campbell has had longer in this system then Romo has had in his.



Uh... what? Romo is 1 year and 8 months older than Campbell. Campbell is in his 3rd year; Romo in his 5th. Who cares? The difference being, of course, is that Romo came out undrafted from a Division 1-AA school. Campbell was a 4 year starter at a National contender and was a guy we blew 2 picks for in the first round.

Campbell should be further along than he is. Romo shouldn't. No one is going to criticize Campbell for not being Romo; Romo is a freak. But Campbell in his 3rd year as a 1st round draft pick should be having a very good game now and again.

We shouldn't have to wait until his 4th year for him to get good.
You seem like a real bright guy,"NOT"

[RedDevil]

I kinda of agree with you, but not quite with the same knee jerk reaction. It's as if God continues to punish us. Alot of teams are looking for starting QB's and Dallass pulls one out of their ass. Just our luck against these bastards as always. Add it to the Thanksgiving day game, 1979 game, 1989 game etc, etc. Romo- Undrafted FA from Division 1-AA Eastern Illinois. Plays like a pro bowler after 15 starts.

Campbell- 4 year starter at a Division 1 school in perhaps the best conference in college, first round pick and gave up 2 picks for. But we have to wait 2 to 3 years for him to "develop". Sad as it is, I'm willing to let JC develope, but he needs to step it up starting this week.

I am with you on that one... something needs to start happening and it needs to happen soon.

[Potato Sack]

:whoknows: I haven't heard anybody say they haven't given up on Campbell at all. I think he's done a pretty good job thus far and he's only going to get better


:applause: :applause:

Thank you. I agree. His numbers aren't the best, but he's led us to a 2-1 start. After only 10 starts in the NFL, that's all I ask for.

I think it's also funny that we finally have a mobile QB with a heck of an arm and people still complain. I really hope he lights it up against the Lion's and shuts everyone up. Then those who are complaining are going to gush and say that they never complained.

[DaMuller7]

It's unfortunate that Romo is on a high right now and our QB looks about average. I just sometimes get an uncanny feeling that maybe Campbell will never come out of just being "average" and we'll have to resort to someone else down the road..... Call me crazy and don't quote me on any of that, but it's just a feeling I kind of have.

[Chump Bailey]

It's not Campbell that I'm worried about.

[Parker]

I think this detroit game will really show what he's capable of.

[fansince62]

I think a lot of people forget that Romo is a 5th year player. The guy just started to play last year, but he has time in the NFL and had vets to learn from. It is like comparing apples and oranges.

and JC is in his 3rd yr and had vets to learn from. he'll be fine. but right now...he's not in control like Romo.

[Taylor 36]

It is way too early to talk about the pro-bowl. The fact is, there is still a lot of football to be played, and the Dallas Cowboys have not truly seen a good team yet. Even the Giants, who are starting to bounce back, were not the team they are now in week 1. The Cowboys have some real opponents on their schedule; let's see how they fair then.

[testrake]

Hard to compare the two, but if you think about what is around them then there is not much wonder that Romo has looked better, he has three potential receivers to throw to plus a TE. We have two receivers and the tight end has had to stay in to block because of a patchwork o-line. Romo has a stable line and doesn't spend as much time running for his life.

[tone_dubbz]

Lets be real Romo is gonna take his team to the playoffs this year. He will also go to his 2nd probowl. I know that is gonna upset alot of redskins fans. Just be patient about campbell, i know most of you all are gonna critize campbell for having a average season. Campbell is not good as romo right now, Romo devloped pretty fast.

All iam saying is take it easy on the QB. Cause i know hes gonna get alot of heat, because romo is making it happen and campbell is not. 2008 is gonna be Campbells breakout season, this year expect him to be average.


just my 21 cents...........

I don't think patience with JC is the main problem. I think its patience with the Offense as a whole along with the Coaching staff to open up that playbook.

[goldenchild]

I think people are exaggerating Campbell's inaccuracy. He has missed some throws he should hit, but those have only been occurring a few times a game at most. Most of his (too-many) incompletions are stemming from receivers dropping them or receivers not getting open and Campbell doing his best to keep the ball away from defenders.

And as bad as the playcalling and overall strategy has been at times, the main problem is the receivers. Santana's great, especially for such a little guy, but even he's been playing subpar thus far, dropping a number of balls he should have caught. And Cooley, who all of us KNOW is a top-flight TE, has done squat. After that we've got Randle El playing admirably but still only catching a few balls a week, and then ... nothing.

The better offenses in the league have good, usually big receivers who can get open. It's rare to find guys like Lloyd and Thrash so high up on a team's depth chart.

We really need to draft a couple young receivers (of course after we've already drafted linemen on both sides of the ball), preferably with some size. In the meantime, I really hope McCardell and/or Caldwell can somehow make a significant impact or we're doomed to be watching another loooong season.

[tonyriggins]

If Gibbs was the one to pick Campbell then it doesnt look good for him because Gibbs doesn't have a ****ing clue about the position, especally Gibbs II!