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TonyRomoProBowl
October-9th-2007, 10:07 AM
Romo was bad. Romo was horrid. Romo played, by far his worst game ever and if this happens next week, they will lose 56-10. But a wins a win and Dallas is currently the best temain the NFC

1. Dallas 5-0 by default at this moment
2. GB 4-1 home loss to a bad Bears team kept them from the top spot
3. NY Giants 3-2 this team is starting to make my first ever "prediction" look good. They could be in it in the end for the East title.
4. Seattle 3-2 good team, they were just out played by a very GOOD AFC team @ Pitt
5. Wash 3-1 nice win. That was impressive! I gotta say, that if they beat GB in GB they will be in the top 3 no matter what the top 4 teams do!!!
6. Zona 3-2 Can Warner pull this team to a 10 win season? I dont think so, but it will be fun to watch.
7. Tampa Bay 3-2 Cant fault them for losing to INDY (#2 overall ranked team) but the two injuries this weekend will be a killer blow.
8. Philly 1-3 After the byw week I still have no idea what Philly is or isnt.
9. Detroit Wow. This team is still a good team, and maybe the game in FED ex speaks more about Washington then it does Detroit. But hten again its detroit.....can they ever win @ Washington?
10. Chicago may have saved there season or at least kept it alive for anothe week or two with a big second 1/2 vs the Pack.
11. Carolina 3-2 This team cant win more then 8 games with Carr in instead of Dellhome (sp?) thats a bad (big time) LOSS!!
12. 49ers 2-3 Are they good or as Riggo said is B-More overrated??? They looked to play a very good def game, and with Dilfer at QB I expected them to not put alot of points on the board, but 7???
13. Minny 1-3. May have the ROY but this team will finish last in the North.
14. Falcons 1-4 I really thought the'd win that game, then Harrington threw the ball late in the game and sealed the loss......
15. Saints 0-4 YUCK. Talk about a bad team. WOW, from riches to rags...they miss Duce big time!
16. Rams 0-5. This wont change all year.

Passizle
October-9th-2007, 10:11 AM
Ha! I was waiting for this.

Tony Romo No Show is your new nickname. Not because you dont show of course. This is about the real Tony No Show.

Another squeaker. Another week. Dallas has entered the elevator. Going down Mr. Tyler?

MLSKINS
October-9th-2007, 10:12 AM
Seattle just got thier buts handed to thme and you still have them 4th?? I can see why you have the Giants 3rd because they won three stright and all. But they got lucky yesterday. Pennington handed them the game.

TennCowboy
October-9th-2007, 10:28 AM
Ha! I was waiting for this.

Tony Romo No Show is your new nickname. Not because you dont show of course. This is about the real Tony No Show.

Another squeaker. Another week. Dallas has entered the elevator. Going down Mr. Tyler?
Another squeaker? Every other game has been a double digit win.

tr1
October-9th-2007, 10:38 AM
You're rankings are so laughably bad, one can only assume this is a troll post...
:doh:

Classy.

tr1
October-9th-2007, 10:39 AM
Another squeaker? Every other game has been a double digit win.

Yup. Last night you played the statistically worst team in the NFL and came up with a one point victory.

Awesome.
:laugh:

zoony
October-9th-2007, 10:49 AM
Tampa > Zona

And Seattle doesn't deserve to be in the top 5.

That is all.

TonyRomoProBowl
October-9th-2007, 10:57 AM
You're rankings are so laughably bad, one can only assume this is a troll post...
:doh:

Classy.

ingonore it then. Most atleast have opinions....and tell me whats so bad, should the Skins be #1? Dallas about #5 or less? Seriously, why bother posting a reply if you really could care less?

TonyRomoProBowl
October-9th-2007, 11:01 AM
Yup. Last night you played the statistically worst team in the NFL and came up with a one point victory.

Awesome.
:laugh:

statistics can be deseiving (sp?) you know, do you think Dallas has a better off then NE and the BEST off in the NFL?

Buff played a good game on D and Dallas gave themn 6 TO's..........if you can play as bad as Romo did and still win you take it. -5 in TO ration and they won....can you imagine if another team did that even against the Bills........I betcha not many teams would win in that situation....yes even the Skins.

I know Campbell takes care of the ball a lot, so he would never throw 5 picks, but if he threw 2 and fumled 2 and Portis fumbled 2 and they had a -5 vs the Bills would they win????? I seriously doubt it!

Right now Dallas is #1 in the NFC, nd GB is still 2. If Washington beats GB in GB and Dallas loses to NE it would be atight 1-2 race between Dallas and Washington.

For the person with the Seattle comment. Seattle lost to a team that is far better then ANY NFC team (at the moment)!!!

Westbrook36
October-9th-2007, 11:05 AM
After Philly demolished the Lions, you had them at 12. Then, they lose in humiliating fashion to the Giants and you bump them up 4 spots!

Your power rankings are only as ridiculous as your rationale when called on them. :laugh:

ptr77
October-9th-2007, 11:08 AM
Please take my giants out of the top three and insert someone like the redskins or tampa. I rather like everyone down on the giants, as long as no one expects anything from them they will continue to do well. If they play to their potential they should be 6-2 by the bye, but there is gonna be a setback somewhere. After the bye i always expect a loss with these guys, and then its gonna be a bunch of hard games because i don't see chicago or philly disappearing and the cowboys and skins played the giants well. Playing the patriots the last game of the year is now major plus imo. The pats should be resting up their starters by that time and i expect the giants will need that win to get in as a wildcard.

Henry
October-9th-2007, 11:14 AM
I think Philly and Seattle are too high, but that list isn't all that crazy.

Passizle
October-9th-2007, 11:15 AM
Also, as for your sig... you should really only use the games started stats. the one or two games when Romo went 1-1 for five yards and gets a perfect 152.8 QB rating pads his bottom line just a little.

Westbrook36
October-9th-2007, 11:24 AM
Going 1-1 with 5 yards wont give you a perfect 152 rating, however.

TonyRomoProBowl
October-9th-2007, 11:55 AM
Also, as for your sig... you should really only use the games started stats. the one or two games when Romo went 1-1 for five yards and gets a perfect 152.8 QB rating pads his bottom line just a little.

ok for you i took and made the rating comparrision for STARTS ONLY including the Seattle play off game. Thats 16 "starts" and his rating went up. The TD/INT ratio is career numbers.

Passizle
October-9th-2007, 12:15 PM
Going 1-1 with 5 yards wont give you a perfect 152 rating, however.

Ahhh... thats true. Need a TD for that.
According to NFL.com, thet QB last year was Ryan Longwell, Vikings kicker with a 158.3

1-1 and one TD

Mewelde Moore and Randle El finish ot the top 3. QB rating is so dumb. Granted... it can gice you a vague idea, but not a true reflection of a QB.

Prime example would be last night. 5 INT's and one Fumble lost and No Show gets a 44 QB rating.

Passizle
October-9th-2007, 12:49 PM
ok for you i took and made the rating comparrision for STARTS ONLY including the Seattle play off game. Thats 16 "starts" and his rating went up. The TD/INT ratio is career numbers.

Let me help you out a little. i am talking about regular season starts and thats it. Post season is a different animal all together.

Romo has 16 regular season starts witha QB rating of 94.3, 32 TD's, 21 INT's and 10 fumbles.
Has played against these defense ranked by PA...
2006
Giants 24th in defense
Panthers 8th in defense
Redskins 27 in defense
Cardinals 29th in defense
Colts 23rd in defense
Buccs 21st in defense
Giants 24th in defense
Saints 13th in defense
Falcons 15th in defense
Eagles 16th in defense
Lions 30th in defense
2007
Giants 24th in defense (at the time)
Dolphins 30th in defense
Bears 23rd in defense
Rams 28th in defense
Bills 13th in defense

Campbell has 11 regular season starts with a QB rating of 78.8, 14 TD's, 9 INT's and 5 fumbles.
Has played against these defense ranked by PA...
2006
Buccs 21st
Panthers 8th
Falcons 15th
Eagles 16th
Saints 13th
Rams 28th
Giants 24th
2007
Dolphins 5th (at the time)
Eagles 8th
Giants 25th
Lions 32nd

I think its safe to say that Romo has a better looking record, but Campbell has face much better opponents.

TonyRomoProBowl
October-9th-2007, 02:00 PM
Let me help you out a little. i am talking about regular season starts and thats it. Post season is a different animal all together.

Romo has 16 regular season starts witha QB rating of 94.3, 32 TD's, 21 INT's and 10 fumbles.
Has played against these defense ranked by PA...
2006
Giants 24th in defense
Panthers 8th in defense
Redskins 27 in defense
Cardinals 29th in defense
Colts 23rd in defense
Buccs 21st in defense
Giants 24th in defense
Saints 13th in defense
Falcons 15th in defense
Eagles 16th in defense
Lions 30th in defense
2007
Giants 24th in defense (at the time)
Dolphins 30th in defense
Bears 23rd in defense
Rams 28th in defense
Bills 13th in defense

Campbell has 11 regular season starts with a QB rating of 78.8, 14 TD's, 9 INT's and 5 fumbles.
Has played against these defense ranked by PA...
2006
Buccs 21st
Panthers 8th
Falcons 15th
Eagles 16th
Saints 13th
Rams 28th
Giants 24th
2007
Dolphins 5th (at the time)
Eagles 8th
Giants 25th
Lions 32nd

I think its safe to say that Romo has a better looking record, but Campbell has face much better opponents.


So you think Cambell is better then Romo, no shame in saying that. He did look good this weekend, thats for sure.

manicd
October-9th-2007, 02:08 PM
Please take my giants out of the top three and insert someone like the redskins or tampa. I rather like everyone down on the giants, as long as no one expects anything from them they will continue to do well. If they play to their potential they should be 6-2 by the bye, but there is gonna be a setback somewhere. After the bye i always expect a loss with these guys, and then its gonna be a bunch of hard games because i don't see chicago or philly disappearing and the cowboys and skins played the giants well. Playing the patriots the last game of the year is now major plus imo. The pats should be resting up their starters by that time and i expect the giants will need that win to get in as a wildcard.

Damn. You definitely have the best shot of beating NE for that reason right there. Nobody else is good enough to beat them in my mind. Is Bill Belichick that much of an egomaniac to go for 16-0 if he has the chance? If there is one coach that wouldn't sit their studs, it may be BB. However, I'd bet on the Giants to win that game.

Passizle
October-9th-2007, 03:10 PM
So you think Cambell is better then Romo, no shame in saying that. He did look good this weekend, thats for sure.

No. I dont think he is better than Romo yet. Stats are stats until proven otherwise.
My point was Campbell seems more consistant with his play and all his play has been against stiffer defenses. I have yet to see him completely dissappear, or cost the team a game.

knocking on wood right now...

ptr77
October-9th-2007, 04:32 PM
Damn. You definitely have the best shot of beating NE for that reason right there. Nobody else is good enough to beat them in my mind. Is Bill Belichick that much of an egomaniac to go for 16-0 if he has the chance? If there is one coach that wouldn't sit their studs, it may be BB. However, I'd bet on the Giants to win that game.

He will pull out all the stops to win but i expect tom brady to be on the sidelines after one quarter at most. I am not sure if he would rest his defensive guys (probably injured ones) but i would definitely see Brady and maybe moss sitting. I just know that the giants won't be 6-2 going into the bye (probabyl 5-3), will lose right after the bye and will have to fight hard to get into the playoffs because Chicago and philly are not teams that will just give up and go away.

skinsfan07
October-9th-2007, 04:51 PM
Redskins are easily the 2nd or 3rd best team in the NFC. if we beat GB next week we will be #2, unless the Cowboys lose.

But as of now we are #3. We would kill Seattle, and will kill the Giants when we play them again. Seattle is one of the most overrated teams in the NFC.

ptr77
October-9th-2007, 05:10 PM
Redskins are easily the 2nd or 3rd best team in the NFC. if we beat GB next week we will be #2, unless the Cowboys lose.

But as of now we are #3. We would kill Seattle, and will kill the Giants when we play them again. Seattle is one of the most overrated teams in the NFC.

Bold predicions. Totally possible as well. I don't think seattle is overrated, just their WRs, that defense is sick and alexander is hurt. As far as killing the giants, the giants did put up 24 on the very talent redskins defense and have played good D 3 weeks running, i would see the next game as a fair fight.

Cassow
October-9th-2007, 06:03 PM
After Dallas beat the bears:
I've always thought that mid-season (8th game or so) is when you can come to some conclusions about a team using stats. Before then, you might be able to spot a trend and actually see an individual who could have a great year...but to make any projections before then would seem premature to me.


TODAY:
Yup. Last night you played the statistically worst team in the NFL and came up with a one point victory.

Awesome.
:laugh:

:dance::dance::dance:

Tom [Giants fan]
October-9th-2007, 07:05 PM
Ok, I'm even going to call this guy an idiot for putting the Giants third. With the Giants' schedule the next three weeks there is a chance they could be 6-2 going into their bye week. Are they going to be number 2 at that time? This is ridiculous. They aren't third and I hate when they get recognition. Let them sit back quietly and sneak up on people. I don't like this guy.

Bacon
October-9th-2007, 07:18 PM
Giants > Skins? Hmm...we shall see. I'm predicting an upset in the Meadowlands in a couple of months...

tr1
October-9th-2007, 07:20 PM
After Dallas beat the bears:


TODAY:


:dance::dance::dance:

Is this all you've got Cassow? :laugh:

I've seen the pukes twice this season...both times they looked very beatable...but they were playing inferior talent...as they've done all season.

As for stats, I was wrong...five games is good. Eight is better.

8-8

:laugh:

DCDave
October-9th-2007, 10:43 PM
I've seen the pukes twice this season...both times they looked very beatable...but they were playing inferior talent...as they've done all season.



You know, this seems to be a constant refrain from you, that Dallas has played "inferior talent" all season. Which is why I am so glad that we are finally at Patriots week. Hopefully, when the Cowboys win this one, there will be no excuses; no distorted statistics; no conspiracy theories. Just a plain acknowledgment that the Cowboys are the best team in football.

And, really, even if the Cowboys should lose the game, after the Patriots, where are all the other non "inferior talents" on the Cowboys' horizon? If the Cowboys lose to the Pats, and lose another couple of division games, who else is out there on the Cowboys' schedule we should be worried about? Minnesota? The Jets? The Panthers? The Lions? :rolleyes:

I could very easily see the Cowboys going 12-4 or 13-3 and guys like yourself still braying about how they "haven't played anybody." And I'm just kind of curious how long it will take you to realize that most of the teams that appear on the Cowboys schedule as "inferior talent" (as you put it), are "inferior" by virtue of the fact that the Cowboys are better than most of the teams in the NFL. You keep promising that the worm will turn on the Cowboys when they have to play "real teams"? But, other than the Patriots next week and whoever represents the AFC in the superbowl this year, which candidates on the horizon will be these "real" tests?

whatmeworry
October-9th-2007, 11:13 PM
I'm still pissed that we could have buried the Giants and left them for dead.

But that's another story.

Passizle
October-10th-2007, 08:58 AM
You know, this seems to be a constant refrain from you, that Dallas has played "inferior talent" all season. Which is why I am so glad that we are finally at Patriots week. Hopefully, when the Cowboys win this one, there will be no excuses; no distorted statistics; no conspiracy theories. Just a plain acknowledgment that the Cowboys are the best team in football.

And, really, even if the Cowboys should lose the game, after the Patriots, where are all the other non "inferior talents" on the Cowboys' horizon? If the Cowboys lose to the Pats, and lose another couple of division games, who else is out there on the Cowboys' schedule we should be worried about? Minnesota? The Jets? The Panthers? The Lions? :rolleyes:

I could very easily see the Cowboys going 12-4 or 13-3 and guys like yourself still braying about how they "haven't played anybody." And I'm just kind of curious how long it will take you to realize that most of the teams that appear on the Cowboys schedule as "inferior talent" (as you put it), are "inferior" by virtue of the fact that the Cowboys are better than most of the teams in the NFL. You keep promising that the worm will turn on the Cowboys when they have to play "real teams"? But, other than the Patriots next week and whoever represents the AFC in the superbowl this year, which candidates on the horizon will be these "real" tests?

Thats a bold statement coming from a fan of a team that just squeeked by one of the worst teams in the NFL.
You should be worried about Minny, NY, Carolina and Detroit.

They all have much better defenses than the lowly, mostly 3rd stringers, Buffalo Bills.

Trust me, when The boys face the Skins. That D is going to eat you alive.

And dopnt bring the Bears D into this conversation. They are ranked 23rd this year. They are a shadow of their former self.

tr1
October-10th-2007, 09:08 AM
You know, this seems to be a constant refrain from you, that Dallas has played "inferior talent" all season. Which is why I am so glad that we are finally at Patriots week. Hopefully, when the Cowboys win this one, there will be no excuses; no distorted statistics; no conspiracy theories. Just a plain acknowledgment that the Cowboys are the best team in football.

And, really, even if the Cowboys should lose the game, after the Patriots, where are all the other non "inferior talents" on the Cowboys' horizon? If the Cowboys lose to the Pats, and lose another couple of division games, who else is out there on the Cowboys' schedule we should be worried about? Minnesota? The Jets? The Panthers? The Lions? :rolleyes:

I could very easily see the Cowboys going 12-4 or 13-3 and guys like yourself still braying about how they "haven't played anybody." And I'm just kind of curious how long it will take you to realize that most of the teams that appear on the Cowboys schedule as "inferior talent" (as you put it), are "inferior" by virtue of the fact that the Cowboys are better than most of the teams in the NFL. You keep promising that the worm will turn on the Cowboys when they have to play "real teams"? But, other than the Patriots next week and whoever represents the AFC in the superbowl this year, which candidates on the horizon will be these "real" tests?


Let's see how the pukes play the Pats.

The Pats do have a few things going against them though...they're in Dallas and the refs will have three of their patented calls at crucial times to make the puke faithful cheer.

I'm thinking the Pats overcome that...simply because Brady should get about 400 yards on that awful defensive secondary you guys have.

And Romo seems to have trouble with big games...like this one...

:laugh:

NewBlood81
October-10th-2007, 09:36 AM
Let's see how the pukes play the Pats.

The Pats do have a few things going against them though...they're in Dallas and the refs will have three of their patented calls at crucial times to make the puke faithful cheer.

I'm thinking the Pats overcome that...simply because Brady should get about 400 yards on that awful defensive secondary you guys have.

And Romo seems to have trouble with big games...like this one...

:laugh:

lol what's funny about his post is that he actually think the pukes are the best team in football.

DCranon21
October-10th-2007, 09:46 AM
lol what's funny about his post is that he actually think the pukes are the best team in football.


:doh: I wonder if he is aware that Randy Moss eats Dallass DB's for lunch everytime he steps on the field. I think he has like 10 TD's against them the 6 times he's faced them.

NewBlood81
October-10th-2007, 09:48 AM
:doh: I wonder if he is aware that Randy Moss eats Dallass DB's for lunch everytime he steps on the field. I think he has like 10 TD's against them the 6 times he's faced them.

Yea even in Oakland Randy Moss had good games against them. They should he worried because both of their starting CB is injured.

pjfootballer
October-10th-2007, 12:06 PM
You know, this seems to be a constant refrain from you, that Dallas has played "inferior talent" all season. Which is why I am so glad that we are finally at Patriots week. Hopefully, when the Cowboys win this one, there will be no excuses; no distorted statistics; no conspiracy theories. Just a plain acknowledgment that the Cowboys are the best team in football.

And, really, even if the Cowboys should lose the game, after the Patriots, where are all the other non "inferior talents" on the Cowboys' horizon? If the Cowboys lose to the Pats, and lose another couple of division games, who else is out there on the Cowboys' schedule we should be worried about? Minnesota? The Jets? The Panthers? The Lions? :rolleyes:

I could very easily see the Cowboys going 12-4 or 13-3 and guys like yourself still braying about how they "haven't played anybody." And I'm just kind of curious how long it will take you to realize that most of the teams that appear on the Cowboys schedule as "inferior talent" (as you put it), are "inferior" by virtue of the fact that the Cowboys are better than most of the teams in the NFL. You keep promising that the worm will turn on the Cowboys when they have to play "real teams"? But, other than the Patriots next week and whoever represents the AFC in the superbowl this year, which candidates on the horizon will be these "real" tests?

Coming from a person who lives in Silver Spring and calls himself DC Dave, you lose all credibility calling yourself a Cowpuke fan in Redskins territory.

Riggo#44
October-10th-2007, 02:54 PM
You know, this seems to be a constant refrain from you, that Dallas has played "inferior talent" all season.

That's has to be expect considering your last four opponents have a combined 3 wins. How is that not playing inferior talent. And until they beat someone worth a crap, it will be a question, whether you or all the other Cowboy front-runners on here want to acknowledge it or not!

Which is why I am so glad that we are finally at Patriots week. Hopefully, when the Cowboys win this one, there will be no excuses; no distorted statistics; no conspiracy theories. Just a plain acknowledgment that the Cowboys are the best team in football.

Do you honest believe they are the best team in football?? :laugh:

SkinsFanAnt
October-10th-2007, 03:30 PM
TonyHomoProBowl ... you are a major retard.

SkinsFanAnt
October-10th-2007, 03:34 PM
Seattle - Mac Strong = Suck. They lost their best player. Mac Strong was da man.

TonyRomoProBowl
October-10th-2007, 03:35 PM
TonyHomoProBowl ... you are a major retard.

Thanks for the nice words, i appreciate it along with the intelligent football related resonse to my post.

I am not a guest here to be complety disrespected and called names. And before you start with the booo-hooo Cowboy fan gets his feelings hurt, save it. I am just sayin....i respect this place and am here as a hated rival, but a guest.

But then again, thanks, I just added you to the ignore list, because its not worth it, you obviously have nothing good to offer in the way of a football related discussion.




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