AP: Cowboys need blocked FG returned for TD, fumble recovery to beat Minnesota 24-14

[tr1]

Moral of this story? Rough up Romo and he becomes ineffective AND pass, pass, pass against the pukes.


10/22/2007
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D8SE7GSG0.html
By STEPHEN HAWKINS / Associated Press

Chris Canty burst through the line, stuck his hands up and, in an instant, the Dallas Cowboys went ahead for good instead of trailing again.

In a game where the offense struggled despite dominating, and Tony Romo finished bruised, it took Canty's blocked field goal that Pat Watkins returned 68 yards for a touchdown to finally push the Cowboys past the Minnesota Vikings 24-14.

"When I got it, my mind frame was to get as many yards as I can," said Watkins, a 6-foot-5 safety. "We made a big play at the right time."

While not pretty or easy, the victory Sunday was all Dallas wanted coming off a lopsided home loss to New England and going into its open week. The 6-1 record is the best in the NFC — and the first time since 1995, their last Super Bowl season, the Cowboys have started this good.

"All we thought about was 6-1, 6-1. How can we do that?," Bradie James said. "We pulled that off."

The block by Canty and return by Watkins, the first off a field-goal attemp for a touchdown by the Cowboys since 1983, made it 21-14 late in the third quarter. Nick Folk added a 45-yard field goal after Vikings rookie Adrian Peterson, who returned home as the NFL's rushing leader, was stripped and fumbled.

Now Dallas gets a break.

"The bye week comes at a good time," James said.

Not only for the breather before playing their three NFC East rivals in consecutive weeks, but for Romo to get time to recover from the upper-leg bruise sustained while Minnesota (2-4) returned a fumble for a touchdown and a 14-7 lead only 1:39 before halftime.

Romo initially gave chase after Patrick Crayton's fumble. But the quarterback changed his mind when he saw a big defender, then slid to try avoiding a hit.

"I kind of looked into his eyes and he looked like he was ready to take the hit more than I was," said Romo, who came up limping anyway but didn't miss a play.

"I think Tony is bruised mostly," coach Wade Phillips said.

Romo was 28-of-32 for 231 yards at halftime. Noticeably bothered by the bruise at times, he was only 3-of-7 for 46 yards the rest of the way.

Despite leading 250-76 in yards, 43-18 in plays and 16-5 in first downs at halftime, the Cowboys trailed.

Yet, the Vikings couldn't capitalize. Strangely, Minnesota coach Brad Childress opted not to try swarming Romo and not to feature Peterson, who was coming off a 224-yard performance.

Peterson ran four times for 27 yards on the opening series, including a 20-yard touchdown to tie it, but got only eight more carries. He fumbled on the last one and finished with a season-low 63 yards.

"I felt like I played all right, except when I put the ball on the turf," Peterson said. "I was fighting for yards and somebody (Jason Hatcher) came from behind and made a big play to knock the ball out."

The Cowboys scored a first-quarter touchdown for the first time, when Romo was 9-of-10 on the 80-yard drive that ended with his 5-yard pass to Terrell Owens.

Dallas drove to the Vikings 9 in the second quarter, but instead of a go-ahead score, Romo fumbled after being sacked from behind. Kevin Williams, the 311-pound tackle, picked up the ball and rumbled 84 yards to the end zone — only to have the TD nullified by a holding penalty.

After the Vikings went three-and-out, and with Williams still on the sideline trying to catch his breath, Crayton fumbled in Minnesota territory. Ben Leber recovered and pitched to Cedric Griffin, who got credited with a 28-yard TD after he fumbled and picked it up in stride.

But Minnesota didn't score again.

The Cowboys loaded up against the run, partly because they weren't worried about the pass, figuring Tarvaris Jackson was no Tom Brady. Jackson admitted Dallas dared him to throw and he wound up 6-of-19 for 72 yards with three sacks while the Vikings had only 196 total yards.

"We all took turns messing up," Jackson said. "There were a couple of plays we left out there. We never got into a rhythm."

Notes:@ Marion Barber had 96 yards and a 1-yard TD run in the third quarter that tied the game at 14, and was the first rushing TD against the Vikings. ... The two fumbles by Dallas in the second quarter matched their total for the first six games. ... Owens caught seven passes for 103 yards, and TE Jason Witten had a career-high 10 catches for 86 yards.

[skinsdude]

The scariest part of the Cowboys play, without a doubt, it their luck. They are the luckiest team to play the game of football. As the saying goes, "better to be lucky than good". Luck is difficult, if not impossible, to beat.

[TonyRomoProBowl]

The scariest part of the Cowboys play, without a doubt, it their luck. They are the luckiest team to play the game of football. As the saying goes, "better to be lucky than good". Luck is difficult, if not impossible, to beat.


what was lucky about it? I am curious to know if you feel the skins were lucky yesturday to win a game where they are out gained by the amoun t that they were? and to have blocked an XPT and to have their opponent call maybe the worst 2 point conversion play ever?

i know i know...this thread is not about the skins its about Dallas.....but they both had some luck on thier side, therefore it is comparable, the difference is, Dallas owned the game from one side of the ball to the other.

[WhoRUSupposed2Be]

what was lucky about it? I am curious to know if you feel the skins were lucky yesturday to win a game where they are out gained by the amoun t that they were? and to have blocked an XPT and to have their opponent call maybe the worst 2 point conversion play ever?

i know i know...this thread is not about the skins its about Dallas.....but they both had some luck on thier side, therefore it is comparable, the difference is, Dallas owned the game from one side of the ball to the other.

Reminded you of the Green Bay game didn't it.

[TEK2000]

Luck? I don't see how fumbling twice in the 1st half... one of them in scoring position and the other run back for a TD is lucky. That's the only difference in the ballgame.

The Cowboys dominated them in every statistic... except turnovers.

If anyone thinks a blocked FG for a TD is the only reason the Cowboys won... they didn't watch the game.

[CowboysSaintsFan]

Luck? I don't see how fumbling twice in the 1st half... one of them in scoring position and the other run back for a TD is lucky. That's the only difference in the ballgame.

The Cowboys dominated them in every statistic... except turnovers.

If anyone thinks a blocked FG for a TD is the only reason the Cowboys won... they didn't watch the game.

Yeah-it rather disgusted me that we left ALOT of pts on the field in that first half. I liked our attitude alot better when we marched down the field on our first drive, but would have preferred to take advantage of our other opportunities.

[NewBlood81]

The Cowboys clearly dominated. But the vikings should of ran Peterson more. WTF were they thinking?

[Tulane Skins Fan]

what was lucky about it? I am curious to know if you feel the skins were lucky yesturday to win a game where they are out gained by the amoun t that they were? and to have blocked an XPT and to have their opponent call maybe the worst 2 point conversion play ever?

i know i know...this thread is not about the skins its about Dallas.....but they both had some luck on thier side, therefore it is comparable, the difference is, Dallas owned the game from one side of the ball to the other.

Well, I thought the Skins were lucky yesterday. Smoot said we were lucky too. So yea, it was lucky.

Cowboys win was lucky too.

[DCranon21]

The Cowboys clearly dominated. But the vikings should of ran Peterson more. WTF were they thinking?

T.Jackson is terrible. I don't know why they don't try to do short to mid range passes with him. I caught the second half yesterday, and it looks like the Boys were crowding that left side up to stop Peterson. If the Vikings had a decent QB to throw downfield, I think it would of been a different outcome. The Vikings looked like they did play hard despite what Romo did in the first half. But a win is a win :(

[cnhnyy]

cowgirls dominated Vikings statistically but could easily lose the game without the block punt. If vikes had made FG, they would have led by 3 points. AP and Chester Taylor would have gotten the ball and ran all over girls defense. However, because the FG is blocked and returned for a TD, Vikings were forced to pass.

cowgirls have been sloppy in the last few games. Their offense seem to hit a wall, at least scorewise. They are lucky that they played Bills/Vikes. If girls continue playing like this, they will lose next three games.

[bubba9497]

Tarvaris Jackson is horrible :doh:


go back to Holcomb

[TheFan]

Tarvaris Jackson is horrible :doh:


go back to Holcomb


I wondered about that. The only reason I can see playing him is if you want to lose. Fishing for higher draft pick maybe?

I didn't see Jackson do anything that would make you think he's got potential.

TheFan

[egtuna]

How exactly is a blocked field goal returned for a TD LUCKY? It's called making a play. Just like Jason Hatcher did in forcing the fumble on Peterson. Did you even see that play? It wasn't luck. Hatcher made a great play.

Bang Romo up and he's ineffective? Sure, he had a badly strained/bruised hamstring, but was still very effective going 31-39 for 277 1td and no picks. He has 11 TD passes to WRs this year, which is 11 more than another QB has to his WRs.

Luck is the way other teams win vs. 1-armed QBs.

[TonyRomoProBowl]

I dont think that Dallas "needed" the block to win, but it was helpfull......

A.Peterson is a beast and i just would like to point out that his rushing yards game by game are as followed

Atl-103
Det 66
K.C 17
G.B 112
Chicago 224
Dallas 63

Dallas held Peterson to his lowest number of the year, and the way this dude is running i bet there wont be many games the rest of the year where he gets less then 63......

oh and Tarvaris Jackoson is horrible, no arguing that one....just horrid!!!

game by game

Atl 163 yds
Det 166 yds
K.C DNP
G.B DNP
Chicago 136 yds
Dallas 72 yds.

Dallas held Jackson to his lowest number, but if he does get more playing time, i am sure he will do less then 72 yds in a few games.....:laugh:

[CowboysSaintsFan]

I dont think that Dallas "needed" the block to win, but it was helpfull......

A.Peterson is a beast and i just would like to point out that his rushing yards game by game are as followed

G.B 112



And less not forget GB has one of the STOUT D's in the league-I was surprised at how Peterson was OWNING the Packers' run D.



Dallas held Peterson to his lowest number of the year, and the way this dude is running i bet there wont be many games the rest of the year where he gets less then 63......



He's splitting carries with Chester Taylor. Taylor ain't no slouch himself, and that Vikings' OL is one of the best.

If anything-it's understandable why they're splitting carries-rookies need time to learn the system, and they're not GREAT in picking up blitzes.



oh and Tarvaris Jackoson is horrible, no arguing that one....just horrid!!!



I think he has potential, but for some reason, he just screams Jeff George-when he got criticized by his coaches on the sidelines, he started getting defensive and barking back at them. Leaders do NOT do that.

I wouldn't be surprised if he got benched this week.

[pjfootballer]

I'm just pretty numb at this point. One of the weirdest season on record.

[Warhead36]

AP had 63 yards but he only had 12 carries. That's over 5 YPC...

[TonyRomoProBowl]

AP had 63 yards but he only had 12 carries. That's over 5 YPC...


he is at 6.2 for the season!

atl 19-103 5.4
Det 20-66 3.3
K.C 25 102 4.08
G.B 12 - 112 9.33
Chic 20- 224 11.2
Dallas 12-63 5.25

108-670 6.2 YPC.....Dude is abeast no matter how its put. I think he is a stud, and he plays much faster then i thought he would. What was his 40 time in college or in the combine/OU workout?

[TonyRomoProBowl]

on the otherside of the running game another impressive number and reason Dallas won:

leading rusher vs the Vikings week by week

Vs Atl 55 yds
vs det 22 yds
vs K.C 42 yds (24 carries by L.J)
vs GB 20 yds
vs Chicago 67 yds
vs Dallas 96 yds for MB3

[TheREALJBird]

AP had 63 yards but he only had 12 carries. That's over 5 YPC...

I was gonna point that out. Cowboys fans are calling this a victory and saying they shut down AP, but it was his own team that shut him down by only giving him the rock 12 times. Maybe there would have been a different outcome if they fed him the ball more

[CowboysSaintsFan]

I was gonna point that out. Cowboys fans are calling this a victory and saying they shut down AP, but it was his own team that shut him down by only giving him the rock 12 times. Maybe there would have been a different outcome if they fed him the ball more

I believe I've repeatedly praised him. The guy's a MONSTER.

BTW-for one, he shares the carries with Chester Taylor(with rookie RBs, it's not a bad idea b/c they have alot to learn in this NFL system-i.e. picking up blitzes). And two, we controlled the clock on O throughout most of the game, so he didn't have alot of opportunities to get too many carries.

[THEHEREAFTER]

Luck? No mention that the Vikes scored only 1 offensive TD and got their other score off a fumble which was pitched back which was then fumbled conveniently down the sidelines in a straight line to be picked up again by the fumbler for a score?

The Vikes were flat out dominated and "all day" was pretty much a non-factor. They stayed in the game because of a couple of turnovers and it finally caught up to them. No coincidence that we did not give them any turnovers in the second half and dominated 17-0.

[bubba9497]

AP had 63 yards but he only had 12 carries. That's over 5 YPC...



:nono:

no logic allowed

[THEHEREAFTER]

:nono:

no logic allowed

AP had a decent average but they came on about 3 very good runs. He wasn't running consistently. He got 12 carries partly because the Vikes got down in the second half and had to throw.

[CowboysSaintsFan]

AP had a decent average but they came on about 3 very good runs. He wasn't running consistently. He got 12 carries partly because the Vikes got down in the second half and had to throw.

Honestly-I don't care-we got the W before a long-welcomed bye. It's been a rough 3 weeks, and an even rougher 7 weeks with 3 national televised night games. Just imagine all the physical and emotional toll this team went through.

[TonyRomoProBowl]

:nono:

no logic allowed

as i pointed out it was a yard BELOW his average and he only had 12 carries vs G.B with 112 yds!!!

Hows this for more logic? his carries per game avg is 18.

and more? He had 4 carries for 27 yds in the very first drive of the game, which then Dallas made adjustments and he had 8 carries for 36 yds (4.5 YPC)

[Spec138]

I don't think that the blocked FG was the only reason we won. If you watched the end of that game we marched down the field with just the run, even though Romo had picked apart the Minnesota secondary. We would have beat them by a much higher margin if Belichick was our HC...

[kevin11]

The cowboys are lucky in the sense that they have played some of the worst teams in offense in the league. If they can beat the giants and the eagles, i will be impressed. Right now, they are struggling to put up points. Romo did have a great game against another bad pass D.

After the bye week is when the cowboys will start to struggle.

[kevin11]

I don't think that the blocked FG was the only reason we won. If you watched the end of that game we marched down the field with just the run, even though Romo had picked apart the Minnesota secondary. We would have beat them by a much higher margin if Brady was our QB...

Yea, he did really great with the Browns.:rolleyes:

Bellicheck and Dungy seem like their good coaches, but their QB bails them out.

[TonyRomoProBowl]

The cowboys are lucky in the sense that they have played some of the worst teams in offense in the league. If they can beat the giants and the eagles, i will be impressed. Right now, they are struggling to put up points. Romo did have a great game against another bad pass D.

After the bye week is when the cowboys will start to struggle.

at 6-1 the "Cowboys havent beaten anyone" line is getting really stupid, and desperate.......

Not that this is a skins topic, but who the heck have they beat? Struggling to put up points? They could have easily put up 30+ I mean the last drive alone was just a time wasting drive to end the game...if needed, they could have scored two more times at the end of that game!

[CowboysSaintsFan]

The cowboys are lucky in the sense that they have played some of the worst teams in offense in the league. If they can beat the giants and the eagles, i will be impressed. Right now, they are struggling to put up points. Romo did have a great game against another bad pass D.

After the bye week is when the cowboys will start to struggle.

Buffalo beat a pretty good Ravens team, FWIW.

[THEHEREAFTER]

The cowboys are lucky in the sense that they have played some of the worst teams in offense in the league.

At some point you have to realize that MOST teams we're going to play are going to be worse than us. If you continuously play worse teams, at some point you have to be considered one of the best. :2cents:



If they can beat the giants and the eagles, i will be impressed.

Well we've beaten the Giants already and I don't see us losing to the Eagles out of the bye. If you haven't noticed, that team is in total disarray right now.





Right now, they are struggling to put up points. Romo did have a great game against another bad pass D.

Romo had a great game against the Pats. Romo has had a 91 or better rating against everyone except Buffalo. A game which he still threw for 300 and came back and won.

After the bye week is when the cowboys will start to struggle

Right, when we get Henry, Tank and perhaps Glenn back. The Eagles are bad... the giants will be tough on the road and we always play the skins tough in Dallas. My problem with you and most skins fans is that you always back up in anticipation of Dallas falling... next game... next game.... next game.... that opponent sucks... at some point you have to say Dallas is one of the better teams... :2cents:

[Spec138]

Yea, he did really great with the Browns.:rolleyes:

Bellicheck and Dungy seem like their good coaches, but their QB bails them out.

What I'm saying is we didn't try to run up the score unlike that one, classless coach... I can't remember his name, o wait, Belichick, just like I said.

[kevin11]

At some point you have to realize that MOST teams we're going to play are going to be worse than us. If you continuously play worse teams, at some point you have to be considered one of the best. :2cents:
Like I said, if you guys manhandle the eagles, i will admit that they are the best team.



Well we've beaten the Giants already and I don't see us losing to the Eagles out of the bye. If you haven't noticed, that team is in total disarray right now.

Yes, DIsarray?
The eagles have a very solid defense. Thier team can put up points if given the chance. Are you guys playing the eagles at Lincoln? If you are, you have to be naive to think that is going to be an easy win. The eagles are extremely tough in Philly. MCnabb is starting to play better each and every week. Unlike Who Del, i still can't cant the eagles out.





Romo had a great game against the Pats. Romo has had a 91 or better rating against everyone except Buffalo. A game which he still threw for 300 and came back and won.

Romo is a great QB. He will be a good QB for years along with Campbell for a while. :cheers: I look forward to the cowboys and skins games.


Right, when we get Henry, Tank and perhaps Glenn back. The Eagles are bad... the giants will be tough on the road and we always play the skins tough in Dallas. My problem with you and most skins fans is that you always back up in anticipation of Dallas falling... next game... next game.... next game.... that opponent sucks... at some point you have to say Dallas is one of the better teams... :2cents:
Henry is your weak link on defense anyway. Tank, i think he was the product of a good bears defense with their best LB.

Dallas is a good team. But, i can't put them ahead of the giants, redskins, or packers. They haven't proved himself, yet. :applause:

Skins fans are saying they will fail because the cowboys like the giants have a history for sucking during Late November and December.

[kevin11]

Buffalo beat a pretty good Ravens team, FWIW.Ravens aren't very good this year, though. They have a good defense followed by a ugly offense.

[TonyRomoProBowl]

Like I said, if you guys manhandle the eagles, i will admit that they are the best team.



Yes, DIsarray?
The eagles have a very solid defense. Thier team can put up points if given the chance. Are you guys playing the eagles at Lincoln? If you are, you have to be naive to think that is going to be an easy win. The eagles are extremely tough in Philly. MCnabb is starting to play better each and every week. Unlike Who Del, i still can't cant the eagles out.




[QUOTE=THEHEREAFTER]
Romo had a great game against the Pats. Romo has had a 91 or better rating against everyone except Buffalo. A game which he still threw for 300 and came back and won. [</QUOTE]
Romo is a great QB. He will be a good QB for years along with Campbell for a while. :cheers: I look forward to the cowboys and skins games.

Henry is your weak link on defense anyway. Tank, i think he was the product of a good bears defense with their best LB.

Dallas is a good team. But, i can't put them ahead of the giants, redskins, or packers. They haven't proved himself, yet. :applause:

Skins fans are saying they will fail because the cowboys like the giants have a history for sucking during Late November and December.

Henry has 4 picks and was playing good ball b4 the injury.

[TonyRomoProBowl]

Ravens aren't very good this year, though. They have a good defense followed by a ugly offense.

must be something in the Sate of Maryland....cause that sounds alot like another team from maryland....hmmmmm:silly:

[kevin11]

must be something in the Sate of Maryland....cause that sounds alot like another team from maryland....hmmmmm:silly:

Yea, they sound like UMD. :silly:

[kevin11]

[QUOTE=kevin11]Like I said, if you guys manhandle the eagles, i will admit that they are the best team.



Yes, DIsarray?
The eagles have a very solid defense. Thier team can put up points if given the chance. Are you guys playing the eagles at Lincoln? If you are, you have to be naive to think that is going to be an easy win. The eagles are extremely tough in Philly. MCnabb is starting to play better each and every week. Unlike Who Del, i still can't cant the eagles out.






Henry has 4 picks and was playing good ball b4 the injury.
picks does not measure the skill of a corner. When Henry was in there, they were one of the worst defense. But, I also think that the corner who backed up Newman ****ing sucks. Wasn't he the one who gave up the tackle on stalloworth?

[TonyRomoProBowl]

Yea, they sound like UMD. :silly:
oh yea, them too.......:D

Ravens actually have a better off then Washington and most likely, the Skins will lose to NE and will be 4-3 and with the Ravens on a bye at 4-3.......wow they are alot alike.:silly:

[TEK2000]

Dallas is a good team. But, i can't put them ahead of the giants, redskins, or packers. They haven't proved himself, yet.

Dallas beat the Giants. Dallas beat the Bears. Bears beat the Packers. Packers beat the Redskins.

Yep, I see the logic in your assessment.

[kevin11]

Dallas beat the Giants. Dallas beat the Bears. Bears beat the Packers. Packers beat the Redskins.

Yep, I see the logic in your assessment.:doh:

wow, are you really that stupid?

By your logic, Miami, Jacksonville, dallas, and houston were better than the colts, last year. :rolleyes:

I can't believe you actually typed that. ANy given sunday. Any Given Sunday.

[THEHEREAFTER]

Like I said, if you guys manhandle the eagles, i will admit that they are the best team.

I still have a ton of respect for the Eagles but it looks like they're slipping. They haven't scored more than 16 in any game besides Detroit at home.



Yes, DIsarray?
The eagles have a very solid defense. Thier team can put up points if given the chance. Are you guys playing the eagles at Lincoln? If you are, you have to be naive to think that is going to be an easy win. The eagles are extremely tough in Philly. MCnabb is starting to play better each and every week. Unlike Who Del, i still can't cant the eagles out.

No way will that game be easy. Philly has alot of pride and the linc will be crazy against us, no matter what their record says. The point is Philly is not that good yet you're using them as our next "measuring stick" game. I have a feeling that, should we win, you'll say "Philly is weak--- wait until N.Y."...





Romo is a great QB. He will be a good QB for years along with Campbell for a while. :cheers: I look forward to the cowboys and skins games.

You've done a 180 and you're one of the most stubborn people around here. Great statement. The skins will be one of our toughest opponents this year.

Henry is your weak link on defense anyway. Tank, i think he was the product of a good bears defense with their best LB.

Henry was playing lights out this season. Are you crazy? Tank gave Chicago solid depth. It's rare to see that type of size and agility. His absence is one of the reasons the Chicago D has fallen so fast this year.

Dallas is a good team. But, i can't put them ahead of the giants, redskins, or packers. They haven't proved himself, yet. :applause:

You've got to be kidding me. Dallas has beaten the Giants and a Bears team the Pack couldn't handle. As far as the skins, you've dropped two NFC games already and playing pretty poorly offensively.



Skins fans are saying they will fail because the cowboys like the giants have a history for sucking during Late November and December.

Fair enough but I'm telling you that we're one of the better teams in the league this year.

[TonyRomoProBowl]

:doh:

wow, are you really that stupid?

By your logic, Miami, Jacksonville, dallas, and houston were better than the colts, last year. :rolleyes:

I can't believe you actually typed that. ANy given sunday. Any Given Sunday.


i aint speaking for him, but he was making a point to how bad your statement was about Dallas. If you really think that Dallas is not better thene G.B the Giants and the Skins, then its no use even having a debate with you on this. Do you REALLY think that the Skins are "better" then Dallas at this point of the season? and why?

[kevin11]

I still have a ton of respect for the Eagles but it looks like they're slipping. They haven't scored more than 16 in any game besides Detroit at home. Yes, their offense is just as bad as us,but they do have playmakers. Mcnabb is still a top10 QB.





No way will that game be easy. Philly has alot of pride and the linc will be crazy against us, no matter what their record says. The point is Philly is not that good yet you're using them as our next "measuring stick" game. I have a feeling that, should we win, you'll say "Philly is weak--- wait until N.Y."...
It depends on how Philly plays. If Philly plays like they did against the bears or us, i will admit that the cowboys are a good team. But, if they play against you like they did against the packers then you guys didn't prove anything.






You've done a 180 and you're one of the most stubborn people around here. Great statement. The skins will be one of our toughest opponents this year.
I'm Stubborn? Come on, who isn't when defending their team?
Your also extremely stubborn.


Henry was playing lights out this season. Are you crazy? Tank gave Chicago solid depth. It's rare to see that type of size and agility. His absence is one of the reasons the Chicago D has fallen so fast this year.

I doubt that tank absence is that big of a deal. They didn't have him for any of the playoff games anyway.

You've got to be kidding me. Dallas has beaten the Giants and a Bears team the Pack couldn't handle. As far as the skins, you've dropped two NFC games already and playing pretty poorly offensively.
Dude, the packers beat the giants 35-13 at New York. That is not handling them? wtf?

They lost to the bears, but division games are tough. You guys could barely beat an injured giants team. Divison games are tough and aren't a great way of grading a team. :2cents:
When we played the giants, they were a new team.


Fair enough but I'm telling you that we're one of the better teams in the league this year.Yep, but the skins aren't to be taken lightly with Gibbs. HE is still a great coach in December.

[kevin11]

i aint speaking for him, but he was making a point to how bad your statement was about Dallas. If you really think that Dallas is not better thene G.B the Giants and the Skins, then its no use even having a debate with you on this. Do you REALLY think that the Skins are "better" then Dallas at this point of the season? and why?I never said "better" I said dallas isn't that far ahead of us. In the NFC, no team has pulled in front, yet. Wait til december.

[kevin11]

oh yea, them too.......:D

Ravens actually have a better off then Washington and most likely, the Skins will lose to NE and will be 4-3 and with the Ravens on a bye at 4-3.......wow they are alot alike.:silly:yea, but our offense is better.

We had 1 bad week and 1 week where Moss and ARE forgot how to catch. Arizona is a very good team and people overlook them. Playing @ green bay in bad weather is hard to do. Green Bay is famous for bad weather games and the packers are used to wet weather. We aren't.

[TonyRomoProBowl]

I never said "better" I said dallas isn't that far ahead of us. In the NFC, no team has pulled in front, yet. Wait til december.


really?


Like I said, if you guys manhandle the eagles, i will admit that they are the best team.



Yes, DIsarray?
The eagles have a very solid defense. Thier team can put up points if given the chance. Are you guys playing the eagles at Lincoln? If you are, you have to be naive to think that is going to be an easy win. The eagles are extremely tough in Philly. MCnabb is starting to play better each and every week. Unlike Who Del, i still can't cant the eagles out.





Romo is a great QB. He will be a good QB for years along with Campbell for a while. :cheers: I look forward to the cowboys and skins games.

Henry is your weak link on defense anyway. Tank, i think he was the product of a good bears defense with their best LB.

Dallas is a good team. But, i can't put them ahead of the giants, redskins, or packers. They haven't proved himself, yet. :applause:

Skins fans are saying they will fail because the cowboys like the giants have a history for sucking during Late November and December.


well...were you misquoted or something? I dont understand, if they CAN't be ahead of them in rankings, then wouldnt that mean.....the would NOT be better??

I must be sleepy, i am going to bed

[kevin11]

really?





well...were you misquoted or something? I dont understand, if they CAN't be ahead of them in rankings, then wouldnt that mean.....the would NOT be better??

I must be sleepy, i am going to bedyes, go to bed old man.

I mean that they havent proven themselves to be better than them. They have played their best game against Minny in the last 3 games.

Rankings don't mean much. This isn't college football.

[TonyRomoProBowl]

yea, but our offense is better.

We had 1 bad week and 1 week where Moss and ARE forgot how to catch. Arizona is a very good team and people overlook them. Playing @ green bay in bad weather is hard to do. Green Bay is famous for bad weather games and the packers are used to wet weather. We aren't.

better then UMD....yes, but not better then the Ravens according to the NFL.com stats the Ravens are better then the Skins....geeez

[TonyRomoProBowl]

yes, go to bed old man.

I mean that they havent proven themselves to be better than them. They have played their best game against Minny in the last 3 games.

Rankings don't mean much. This isn't college football.

way to bail out....ranking dont mean anything......duh!!!! but you did say that they are not ahead of the skins, packers and giants, then turned around to say not much better....nice spin job tonight my man....nice .........:doh:

[kevin11]

way to bail out....ranking dont mean anything......duh!!!! but you did say that they are not ahead of the skins, packers and giants, then turned around to say not much better....nice spin job tonight my man....nice .........:doh:huh? I'm not talking about rankings. Im talking about the last few week and how good the giants are looking. I can't put dallas ahead of them with confidence.

[TEK2000]

:doh:

wow, are you really that stupid?

By your logic, Miami, Jacksonville, dallas, and houston were better than the colts, last year. :rolleyes:

I can't believe you actually typed that. ANy given sunday. Any Given Sunday.

Boy the point of my post flew right over your head.

The point of my post was not to RANK THE TEAMS.. it was to make fun of how ridiculous your ranking was considering there was no factual evidence to support such a claim.

But good job.. keep up with all the posts of no substance to them.

[CowboysSaintsFan]

What's the point of this silly conversation? The Giants and Dallas are both playing with a swagger, and despite some key injuries, the Skins are hanging in there nicely.

The NFCE race will come down to wk#17 when Dallas visits FedEx and NE visits the Meadowlands.

[TEK2000]

What's the point of this silly conversation?

This question could be asked in nearly every single Cowboys vs Redskins "debate". :laugh:

[kmd24]

I was gonna point that out. Cowboys fans are calling this a victory and saying they shut down AP, but it was his own team that shut him down by only giving him the rock 12 times. Maybe there would have been a different outcome if they fed him the ball more

Actually, for the majority of the game, Peterson was pretty close to his season average in terms of % of touches (Minnesota ran 6 passing plays on two series at the end of the game to drop the percentage from 30% to 27%. Peterson has touched the ball on 33% of Minnesota's offensive plays this season).

And that's not considering the fact that Chester Taylor didn't play in the first three games when Peterson got his highest percentage of touches.

Minnesota just couldn't convert first downs. 2/12 on 3rd for the game and only 11 first downs in the game.

[dfos81]

We all know how good Dallas is in December :rolleyes:

Their luck will fade as the season gets more intense :2cents: