WP: Steinberg Blog: Everybody Loafs (BLloyd content)

[SkinsFanOH]

Did a search and nothing came up, so....

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2007/10/blloyd_everybody_loafs.html

Know this whole Lloyd thing has been beaten to death on here, but in this it pretty much indicates Lloyd was benched (and continues to be) for loafing on that pass in game 1.

[Sweet Sassy Molassy]

Even though Lloyd hasn't really provided much in terms of production. I can't hate the guy. He always has a smile on his face, he never seems to let things bother him. You can tell he's not necessarily happy about how things have gone, but he's not dwelling on it. He's not bitching, he's just taking things as they come. I can't hate on that.

[ucfSKINS]

lame

I will change my mind when he does something to overcome his 'loaf' play, like work harder than what is expected to crack the starting lineup.

[Siven]

lame

I will change my mind when he does something to overcome his 'loaf' play, like work harder than what is expected to crack the starting lineup.

it's my impression that he has worked harder..... and still isn't being played.

[SkinsFanOH]

Sounds almost like that play may have been the straw that broke the camel's back in gibbs' mind.

Loafing, let alone admitting to it and trying to rationalize it, does not a true redskin make.

Nothing really new here I agree, but sounds like, barring a WR injury, he is in the doghouse to stay.

Whether this is a good idea or not, I'm not so sure...

[DaMuller7]

I think Lloyd should get another shot, because game 1 was like 6 weeks ago. I really hope they don't treat him like the whole Adam Archuleta situation because that would royally piss me off for all that money they threw at him and him not getting opportunities this year.

[Neophyte]

You know, I am thinking if he had come up with that difficult but not impossible catch for a TD against GB that would have won the game for us he might be out of the doghouse. Just a thought...

He also did not deny skipping the workout for WRs organized by McCardell. Rather he attacked the reporter who reported it and attacked that reporter's source.

[ceekay84]

Lloyd deserves to be put in the game more. We all know that he has potential, but if Gibbs benches BLloyd all the time, there is no room to show for the potential he has for this team. I really hope Lloyd gets his minutes this coming Sunday.

[Mad Mike]

As he told Hellie, Joe Gibbs came up to him before a practice and said, "You're just not gonna play very much after doing something like that."

That does not sound like Gibbs. Something tells me it was something more like: "You're just not gonna play very much if you keep doing something like that."

[RyansRangers]

Even though Lloyd hasn't really provided much in terms of production. I can't hate the guy. He always has a smile on his face, he never seems to let things bother him. You can tell he's not necessarily happy about how things have gone, but he's not dwelling on it. He's not bitching, he's just taking things as they come. I can't hate on that.

of course he is smiling. He gets 30 million to sit on the bench

[Neophyte]

Lloyd deserves to be put in the game more. We all know that he has potential, but if Gibbs benches BLloyd all the time, there is no room to show for the potential he has for this team. I really hope Lloyd gets his minutes this coming Sunday.

He got in the GB game. He dropped a pass that would have been good for a TD and won the game. What more do you want from the coaches and the QB? The coaches put him and the QB threw him the ball. He did not do what he is paid to do.

[redman]

Wasn't there a report a few weeks about about how Campbell was staying late after practice to throw to his WR's, and only one WR - Lloyd of course - wasn't participating?

Lloyd's an idiot. Go away already.

[Sweet Sassy Molassy]

of course he is smiling. He gets 30 million to sit on the bench
Yeah, but that's not his fault. And to be honest, you don't get as far as Lloyd did without having a competitive fire. I don't think that he's just happy to be collecting a paycheck. Yeah, it makes it easier. But any competitor, which you have to be to get to that level, wants an opportunity. He's had every opportunity to ***** and moan, but he's kept a smile on his face, and said that he's going to do what it take to help the team. Yeah, he's sucked so far. But he's had plenty of openings to go off and he hasn't, unlike someone like Lavar. I respect that.

[SkinsFanRob]

I dont by his story for the reason he was benched. If that were the case santana moss would have been benched for his game against green bay. If gibbs benched lloyd for loafing, it would only be fair to do the same to moss.

[Horatio]

of course he is smiling. He gets 30 million to sit on the bench

Thanks, Snyder. Why is it that when Snyder signs a player, they consistently don't play hard or live up to their previous hype when they put on the Skins uniform??

[stwasm]

I dont by his story for the reason he was benched. If that were the case santana moss would have been benched for his game against green bay. If gibbs benched lloyd for loafing, it would only be fair to do the same to moss.

The only difference is that Moss tries and doesn't "loaf."

[Sweet Sassy Molassy]

Thanks, Snyder. Why is it that when Snyder signs a player, they consistently don't play hard or live up to their previous hype when they put on the Skins uniform??
Didn't Snyder sign Marcus Washington, Philip Daniels, Cornelious Griffin, Clinton Portis, London Fletcher, Mike Sellers, and numerous other players that have all played well? Or does Snyder only get blamed for the bad decisions?

[SkinsFanRob]

The only difference is that Moss tries and doesn't "loaf."

This is True. Also I guess the coaches couldnt take moss out anyways, he did it himself.

[wit 33]

Lloyd did not drop the ball in GB. The pass was a bit over thrown and if Lloyd would have made that catch it would have been all over ESPN. Stop trying to find things to be negative about.

[SkinsFanAnt]

He's not bitching, he's just taking things as they come. I can't hate on that.
I wouldn't ***** either if I could get paid like the Skins paid him to sit on his butt. :doh:

[CPortJGibbs89]

Anyone care to post it for me since my work blocks this website for some reason!!!

[TotalRecall]

I do think B. Lloyd has worked hard. I disagree that every player has loaf plays. A lot of players work hard on every play. If Gibbs benched Lloyd for that one play against Miami, why haven't they benched Rogers? Rogers has had many "loaf" plays.

[C.Taylor]

Thanks, Snyder. Why is it that when Snyder signs a player, they consistently don't play hard or live up to their previous hype when they put on the Skins uniform??

The problem with Lloyd is that he's pretty much lived up to the "hype" (i.e. reputation) that preceded him here.

[D-Day]

Anyone care to post it for me since my work blocks this website for some reason!!!

Here ya go
B-Lloyd: Everybody Loafs

Mister Irrelevant has expertly chronicled five D.C. sports media dust-ups of the past month (http://misterirrelevant.com/index.php/2007/10/25/dc-sports-media-beef-so-hot-right-now/), but the B-Lloyd vs. media fight appears to be ongoing. As told to WRC's Dan Hellie in a long interview that can be seen here (http://video.nbc4.com/player/?id=171163):

"I think people come after every player, because I think the average Joe Blow on the street wants to see the demise of a professional athlete, they want to see it," Lloyd said. That's just the way America is. People watch football to see guys get hit hard. You know, you watch hockey to see a fight. That's just the way we are as human beings, that's what we want to see."

In the meantime, when I chatted with Lloyd the other day, he repeated the story of how he was told he'd been benched because he loafed after that pass was intercepted against the Dolphins. (As he told Hellie, Joe Gibbs came up to him before a practice and said, "You're just not gonna play very much after doing something like that.")

But I asked Lloyd the natural question: why he seemed to give up on that play.

"I mean, that's what I was telling Dan, I was shocked and embarrassed," he explained. "I was shocked that the ball was thrown, and I was embarrassed that I couldn't catch it, that the guy timed his jump better and intercepted it. So I was kind of sitting there like, 'What the...." Right when I snapped out of it, he ran out of bounds. And so for Coach Gibbs to say, 'You're being demoted because you didn't run after the guy with the ball,' I was like, 'Ok.' Because that's what happened. I can't argue that. I was just trying to figure out what I can do from here on to get back in a position where I'm playing more, and the answer is just, 'Continue to work hard.' So that's what I'm doing, and I'm staying where I am. Working hard, everybody works hard. Nobody doesn't work hard. So I just continue going about it how I've been going about it."

Later, I suggested that there must be a reason he continues not to play all that much despite his massive contract.

"Yeah, and I gave you the reason, what I was told was the reason," Lloyd said. "That was the reason. Because I didn't run after the guy after the interception."

One play in one game?

"Ok," he said. "So why is everybody riding me? I said what the truth is. Ask the people who are making these decisions. That was one play, a long time ago. Everybody has a loaf play. Everybody. We all do that, and we all always are gonna do that. It's just the nature of the game. You're always gonna have that one play. Nobody's always hustling every play. It's just, ask the questions to the people that are making decisions."

Now virtually all of you are thinking either "stop writing about this guy, right now" or "lemme find something else to read during my lunch break" or "how are you going to defend this one, Bog? How will you still maintain what D.C. Optimist (http://dcoptimist.blogspot.com/)has brilliantly labeled "B-Lloyalty?"

Well, here's how: there's just a layer of bizarre honesty in something like this that is appealing. Because I ask myself: have I ever had the journalistic equivalent of a loaf play? Try about 400. I posted three short items on Tuesday. I've fallen asleep in my car in the middle of the work day. I spend at least an hour on the clock thinking about fantasy football every week. So do you, probably. We just don't have thousands of fans and dozens of writers there to call us on that. I'm sure Lloyd has lied to my face about various things--just like Gilbert Arenas occasionally tells utter falsehoods--but those guys also refuse to make any bones about something like this: that everybody (or nearly everybody, anyhow) sometimes loafs. Maybe we loafers don't belong in the NFL, I guess.

I told Lloyd he reminded me of Gilbert in some ways; "he's a little weird, isn't he?" Lloyd asked. "I'm not weird, I'm normal." Which is exactly what Gilbert would have said. Also, Lloyd plays Rainbow Six: Vegas online against random kids he meets.

Anyhow, let's go back to his media criticism.

"I don't agree, I don't agree," Lloyd said of media coverage. "If I was a local writer for a team, I'd be focusing on--partly because I play football--I'd be focusing on things the teams can do to get better. I wouldn't go for so much sleaze, I wouldn't go for that, I'd pick more of the positive things out of the team, the things that a team can do better. Because the things you guys get to do is you guys get to say whatever you want to say, guys get to write whatever they want to write, and nobody comes back and says, 'Hey, you just said we were gonna be 0-6 at this time, at the beginning of the year you said we were gonna be 0-6.' Nobody goes back and corrects those guys."

And to me, much the same; he brought up the Junkies' re-telling of a Kelli Johnson story that implied Lloyd didn't join a receivers work-out organized by Keenan McCardell.

"I mean, I've never really been a fan of sleaze," he said. "It's not that I don't appreciate it, it's that I don't acknowledge it. It's not real. The made-up stories, on the Junkies they were saying Keenan McCardell had a group of guys and I didn't go. Get out of here. Where does she get that from? I never heard of an anonymous source. Like, you can count that? That counts? People not being man enough to say what they feel? I don't see how that counts."

Seriously, if media criticism happens in threes, and if we've had Etan and Lloyd already this week, any bets on who's next? Karl Hobbs maybe?

[Saqs]

Does it matter? We dont even (effectively) use the WRs we signed to "replace" him. Are they "loafing" as well?

The guy is talented and should be a part of this offense. He seems at least a little remorseful. And he did really lay it out for the overthrown ball against the Pack. I say give him one more chance.

[One Shot]

Ok, I'm sorry, but if he's still not playing because of that play in the Miami game, that's ****ing ridiculous. Are you serious? That was WEEK 1....it's now week 8, are people still not over it? They guy owned up, he knows what he did. This is one of the worst signings in Redskins history because of how both sides are handling it.

[Horatio]

Ok, I'm sorry, but if he's still not playing because of that play in the Miami game, that's ****ing ridiculous. Are you serious? That was WEEK 1....it's now week 8, are people still not over it? They guy owned up, he knows what he did. This is one of the worst signings in Redskins history because of how both sides are handling it.

Apparently the coaching staff is not over it...just like they never got over it with Arrington and Archuleta, either.

[D-Day]

I look at it this way, with the history of this staff and their chosen player of the year. Is it really that hard to believe that the coaching staff is not being honest with him or he is telling the truth. Lavar said the coaches lied to him, Adam Ant said the coaches lied to him. Why is it so hard to believe that BL has been lied too or that they are making an example of him. Happens every year to someone.

[ntotoro]

Even though Lloyd hasn't really provided much in terms of production. I can't hate the guy. He always has a smile on his face, he never seems to let things bother him. You can tell he's not necessarily happy about how things have gone, but he's not dwelling on it. He's not bitching, he's just taking things as they come. I can't hate on that.

Fine.

Hate on this (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2007/10/brandon_lloyd_ramblings_there.html#more), then.

[CPortJGibbs89]

Thanks alot D-Day!!!!

[ntotoro]

Lavar said the coaches lied to him, Adam Ant said the coaches lied to him.

The former is contemplating retirement.

The latter is sucking hind teet on his second team in two years.

Neither one is much smarter than a gnat.

[Vi]

I think either something is going on that we aren't totally aware of or the coaching staff is being ridiculous. Lloyd's teammates seem to like the guy well enough, he seems to realize what he did wrong and our offense NEEDS every playmaker it has right now! If they don't put him in the New England game than something is seriously wrong here.

That said, the Gilbert thing made me laugh. I don't think the two are that similar, but that does sound like something Gil would say.

[D-Day]

The former is contemplating retirement.

The latter is sucking hind teet on his second team in two years.

Neither one is much smarter than a gnat.

Not the point,

[ntotoro]

Not the point,

It's exactly the point. Their interpretation of "lie" is a little suspect, especially considering both of them underachieved on the field and it was only fanboys who said they were "misused" or "lied to."

Come to think of it, I don't remember either of them saying they were lied to.

[laurent]

Lloyd sounds like a spoiled child that's been getting away with half-assing it and now that the straw broke the camels back he acts like that this one instance led to his punishment.

Please.

[ASUki]

Ok, I'm sorry, but if he's still not playing because of that play in the Miami game, that's ****ing ridiculous. Are you serious? That was WEEK 1....it's now week 8, are people still not over it? They guy owned up, he knows what he did. This is one of the worst signings in Redskins history because of how both sides are handling it.

Totally agree!!!

If we're using this logic from the coaches, then will Vernon Fox be benched for loafing (and admitting to it) on that blocked punt?

Everyone knows BL can catch a football...he nearly made an incredible grab against GB, which wasn't a drop...it was over thrown...

I would like to see him in the game (being thrown to); Maybe he'll get in the game this sunday...

Either way, HTTR!!! :point2sky

[herrmag]

I'm sure the player being benched is giving us the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Gibbs & Co. aren't really that concerned with winning; They're much more interested in making B LLoyd suffer....:doh:

How anybody can back a player with such a jaded history (both here AND in San Fran) against someone like Coach Gibbs is beyond me.

[ASUki]

How anybody can back a player with such a jaded history (both here AND in San Fran) against someone like Coach Gibbs is beyond me.

Not backing the player...I believe in Coach Gibbs just as much as the next person...in fact, if BL doesn't play again it's not going to hurt my feelings...I just want the skins to WIN!

If he can help then good, if not oh well...

Either way, HTTR!!! :point2sky

[trez]

THe dude is a bum, but you can't tell me that he isn't better than the two geriatric backups we found at the bus stop. You're paying the man, why not get some sort of return on him?

[REEGSKINS]

lloyd is a very good nfl receiver. and very rich. he should be given a lot of opportunities.

[Leonard Washington]

http://4th.saliv8.com/images/avatars/JC_clean.jpg

lloyd is the man

[monkforhall]

I think Blloyd could help us, and I really wish he hadn't loafed on that play.

But on the other hand it sends a powerful message. Not only will you be in trouble if you don't give 100 percent, they will bury you, and they don't care who you are or how much you get paid.

[onnie007]

Its unfortuntate because I believe that B. Lloyd wants to contribute to this team. Its just that the times we've gone to him, we get nothing back but disappointment. It would be best for himself and the Redskins organization for him to just leave. He do better elsewhere and we will do better with a young draft pick. Great guy but his messed up the few opportunities that one gets in the NFL to prove their worth. I hope for his sake that he get more opportunities and makes the most of them but until then I can't blame the team for benching him.

[mistertim]

If this is true it is absolutely idiotic. We need all the talent we can on our offense. I understand Gibbs wants guys who hustle but benching the dude for an indefinite amount of time after 1 play? I mean I can understand if he was upset about it and let him know by not really playing him in the next game. But get over it. From everything I've read the players like him, they think he is talented, and want him to play. He obviously takes things seriously considering the amount of work he put in over the offseason to get stronger and bulk up some. So he messed up on one play and then when Moss is out Thrash is our z receiver and Lloyd STILL hardly sniffs the field. I'm guessing that this is all Gibbs and Saunders is silently pulling his hair out in frustration.

If he doesn't get playing time vs New England then I don't even know what to say. We need all the talent we have out there. ALL of it. Please play the guy. He isn't bashing anyone, he isn't bashing the coach for the decision, he doesn't seem to be a locker room poison at all (unless the players are all just lying and acting...I remember seeing him and Santana laughing and hugging after Carlos got that pick 6 vs the Lions).

[Seabee1973]

it's my impression that he has worked harder..... and still isn't being played.



from what i hear he is one of the first out oif the locker room after games to go

[Blackest Eyes]

I think the coaches need to drop the beef and realize that Lloyd can contribute to the football team and right now, we need to pull out all the stops. If the guy can help the football team, there is no reason he should be on the bench right now. He has served his time. Let the man play.

[Shilsu]

Let's face it, the most important thing on any team, even more important than talent, is chemistry. And Brandon Lloyd just messes it up.

They can say whatever they want, but I'm pretty sure everyone hates Brandon Lloyd. I'm sure the coaches hate him for whatever reason, I'm sure the fans hate him as evidenced by this forum, I'm sure Jason Campbell hates him for dropping so many big passes (first play of Tampa Bay, the pass in Indianapolis where Brandon Lloyd had no idea where the ball was) and throwing tantrums along with his helmet, and I'm sure Clinton Portis hates Lloyd because Portis was talking crap about him on radio at the end of last season.

You're gonna tell me that Clinton Portis is now suddenly buddy-buddy with Lloyd after that radio tirade?

Lloyd is talented, but he just doesn't fit in with this team. Maybe somewhere else, but not here.

[mr2you]

B.L. Should be in the dog house. I coach a number of sports and if one of my players gave up on a possible touchdown resulting in an interception and not chasing the DB, he's riding the bench, not to mention hearing it from me and other coaches. Practice like you play. Practice like a wuss, play like a wuss. If it's true B.L. sits out extra practice with the QB, let him ride the bench until he figures it out. I see guys like Cartwright and Wade who want to play injured to help the team.....and then I see B.L.

IMO no heart.

[Arsenic]

I could fully understand not playing BL if our recieving core were succeeding without him. However, that hasn't been the case. I say play the man and expect him to be rusty. Give him a chance. BL could quite possibly be the spark that this offense needs.

[CounterTrey]

You know its sucks that he "loafed on that 1 play" but he ammited he was wrong and is working hard to come back. Heck the whole damn offensive coaching staff has loafed almost this whole season, Gibbs should bench himself after some of the decisions he's made this yr.

B Loyld messed up bad, and knows it. Might as well allow himself to try and get it right and overcome it but giving him a few more chances. I agree Gibbs had to come down on him but not Gibbs needs to at least give him another chance. The times I've seen Gibbs 2 screw up our clock managment since he's come back, it's almost makes me think how we ever won 3 SB's with him in his first stint.

Let the guy play we don't even have a TD from a WR after 6 games - Our O is such a joke right now its not even funny!

[Ghost of Nibbs McPimpin]

You know it would be all well and good if B Lloyd didn't catch the ball when he got in but he's done that. One was taken away by a penalty and the other got decent yardage.

HE did NOT drop that ball vs. GB, it was overthrown--PERIOD (and badly, as he should have only had to stride to get to it.)

Why the ___ are we running Thrash on deep routes?! Thrash really shouldn't be on the field unless we're running 4 wide or if someone's winded.

[SearchHorizon]

HE did NOT drop that ball vs. GB, it was overthrown--PERIOD (and badly, as he should have only had to stride to get to it.)
But some of us disagree on that. It was a tad overthrown, but it was catchable by a NFL caliber WR. The ball hit him on BOTH hands.

Also, that play which landed him the dog house was NOT because he failed to catch the ball. Rather, he failed to go AFTER the interceptor.

In that interview, BL is saying that it is just one play, so that he should be excused.

He doesn't get it.

[Blackest Eyes]

Maybe we will see some good things out of B Llloyd and the receivers this week. Jason cannot do it all himself. I think once the WR's step their games up, we will be fine.

[Ghost of Nibbs McPimpin]

But some of us disagree on that. It was a tad overthrown, but it was catchable by a NFL caliber WR. The ball hit him on BOTH hands.


No.

NO.

Campbell ___ up on that. It's ON HIM.

It was not 'catchable by an NFL WR.' It would have been a highlight of 2007 catch. If the play involved anyone NOT named Brandon Lloyd, no one on this board would be calling that ball 'catchable.' That's idiotic.

It's not that we disagree (obviously we do.) It's that you're wrong. Campbell just had to put some air under it and it's a TD.

BTW, even if he catches it, it's not guaranteed he gets in the end zone and knowing how we blew that game, no guarantee we score a TD. If the ball is thrown with ANY air, it's a TD and we're sitting here at 5-1.

[RenegadeTK]

No.

NO.

Campbell ___ up on that. It's ON HIM.

It was not 'catchable by an NFL WR.' It would have been a highlight of 2007 catch. If the play involved anyone NOT named Brandon Lloyd, no one on this board would be calling that ball 'catchable.' That's idiotic.

It's not that we disagree (obviously we do.) It's that you're wrong. Campbell just had to put some air under it and it's a TD.

BTW, even if he catches it, it's not guaranteed he gets in the end zone and knowing how we blew that game, no guarantee we score a TD. If the ball is thrown with ANY air, it's a TD and we're sitting here at 5-1.

agreed..... b.lloyd made a hell of an athletic play to even get his hands on the ball. campbell needs to fine tune the skill of hitting the streaking reciever IN STRIDE....

with that said.... i cant want to see JC continue to develop

[Sonny9TD]

Thanks, Snyder. Why is it that when Snyder signs a player, they consistently don't play hard or live up to their previous hype when they put on the Skins uniform??


Good question. Some more incentive based contracts are in order.

:dallasuck

[[[ghost]]]

Even though Lloyd hasn't really provided much in terms of production. I can't hate the guy. He always has a smile on his face, he never seems to let things bother him. You can tell he's not necessarily happy about how things have gone, but he's not dwelling on it. He's not bitching, he's just taking things as they come. I can't hate on that.

Thats exactly how I feel. Now if he was on the bench complaining about not getting the ball, that'd be different, but he seems to want to do the best with his opportunities.

[BuryYourDuke]

Even though Lloyd hasn't really provided much in terms of production. I can't hate the guy. He always has a smile on his face, he never seems to let things bother him. You can tell he's not necessarily happy about how things have gone, but he's not dwelling on it. He's not bitching, he's just taking things as they come. I can't hate on that.

Except for that whole helmet throwing thing...if you ask me, that is when it all came to a screeching halt for B-Lloyd and J-Gibbs.

[nebster21]

I have seen Moss loaf on a play. Are you going to hate on him?

[[[ghost]]]

Exactly. Anything Lloyd does is ten times worse than it actually is. When he celebrated with Moss on Rogers' Pick-6, people complained about that too.

No matter what Lloyd will do, some people will never, Ever give him his due. Course, he's not likely to do something that would require people to do that, but still.

[Blackest Eyes]

When Lloyd threw his helmet, I was kind of irritated by it. But you know, the guy was frustrated because the offense was not doing so hot and he had opportunities to make plays. I would have been upset as well. If anything, we need more players showing their emotions...maybe not throwing their helmets but showing more of themselves when they are frustrated or excited or something. The team needs more life on the offense and I really think B Lloyd could help. It has been several games since he screwed up. The coaches need to re-think the "punishment."

[Roblowsta]

He got in the GB game. He dropped a pass that would have been good for a TD and won the game. What more do you want from the coaches and the QB? The coaches put him and the QB threw him the ball. He did not do what he is paid to do.

Santana Moss dropped several passes that could have extended drives and or won the game in GB. Chris Cooley dropped a crucial first down pass that could have extended the drive and sealed the victory over AZ. It happens. I've bashed Lloyd time and time again but I still think he as some talent and should get more opportunities.

[Neophyte]

No.

NO.

Campbell ___ up on that. It's ON HIM.

It was not 'catchable by an NFL WR.' It would have been a highlight of 2007 catch. If the play involved anyone NOT named Brandon Lloyd, no one on this board would be calling that ball 'catchable.' That's idiotic.

It's not that we disagree (obviously we do.) It's that you're wrong. Campbell just had to put some air under it and it's a TD.

BTW, even if he catches it, it's not guaranteed he gets in the end zone and knowing how we blew that game, no guarantee we score a TD. If the ball is thrown with ANY air, it's a TD and we're sitting here at 5-1.

I am not saying Campbell could not have done a better job of throwing the ball because he could have however, having said that, Lloyd got both hands on that ball. Both hands. And just finger tips either. He both palms on that ball. An NFL WR who has a $30 million contract and who is trying to prove he should be in the game makes that play. Has to make that play. I have seen highlight real shots of Lloyd making tougher catches than that.

And he would have gotten in the Endzone. He landed in the Endzone as it was without the ball. What makes you think catching it would have made it any different.

The reality is that if this guy wants to play he is going to have to start proving himself and that means hands like flypaper. If he can reach he needs to catch it. Just touching it and falling down is not good enough.

Oh, and as per this ball only being catchable because it was Lloyd...forget it. I would be saying this for any receiver who got that much hand on the ball. I would just be a bit less critical if were Moss or Cooley or ARE because they do make plays. So far, Lloyd has not done a thing in a Redskins uni. Not one thing. He gets no slack as he has earned no slack.