Why no review on the ARE completion?

[IONTOP]

The JC to ARE completion that was called incomplete, why was it not reviewed? The NFL has a rule that coaches can't challenge calls within 2 minutes, so teams have to rely on the "booth" to call reviews... I haven't seen a better example of a play that needed to be challenged.

If the NFL has a rule, they should enforce it the WHOLE GAME, not just when it matters. I don't care that we were getting blown out, I don't care that there was only 26 seconds left. I DON'T CARE... The rules are set, there's nothing that says "Only if it will affect the outcome of the game".

It's like saying "Personal fouls don't matter when there's less than 2 minutes left and one team is up by 30 points"


Whatever... I think that there should be repercussions, the booth didn't do it's job and it was so blatant, the ref that called it incomplete should get in trouble.

Did it affect the outcome of the game? NO
Did it have anything to do with us losing? NO
Did they blatantly ignore the rules? HELL YES

[Skins2010]

They did us a favor. I really couldnt wait for the game to be over...

[Papabear]

I agree ION. i was pissed when I heard that bull****. Incomplete?!?! ****ing STUPID.

[skinsfan07]

At least it would have boosted JC's stats. lol

[Rolling Thunder]

This thread is waste. It's like being hit by a truck and then arguing over whether the truck was going 55 MPH or 56 MPH.


Nothing to see here ...move along...

[jnhay]

I don't think anyone important really cares that there wasn't a replay.

[BoBoCTiberius]

No, I care. It's the principle. If the Patriots are going to play until the gun, the Refs should, too.

[stompkins]

Sure it was not going to be a game changer... but I think the Refs still need to do their job.

[DixieFlatline]

No, I care. It's the principle. If the Patriots are going to play until the gun, the Refs should, too.

I totally agree.

[SUSkinsFan]

No, I care. It's the principle. If the Patriots are going to play until the gun, the Refs should, too.

That's asking alot from NFL officials. You know they like to check out early so they can hopefully get to Ruby Tuesday's before the early bird expires...

[Burgold]

I agree. There should have been a review. The call should have been reversed. Would it have changed anything? Of course not, but especialy with Gibbs calling time out so that they could review it, they needed to take a look. If the punt had been blocked or had there been an injury b/c everything was so compressed then we would all have cared.

[rhyno]

I also noticed the refs did not stop the play clock on the td drive when the ball was caught and run out of bounds.. Oh well, we got worked anyways.. but Iunderstand your point.

[Bacon]

I was pretty angry over that. It just adds to their atrocious calling today (R. Moss interference, I'm looking at you). :mad:

[TD Riggo]

Why bother? We were getting spanked. Joe could have thrown the red flag, but why would he?

[jwsleep]

Mercy rule! The sooner we got out of Foxboro the better. Whatever--if it had mattered, I'm confident it would have been reviewed. And, for what it's worth, I think it's a drop.

Move along is the correct answer!

[IONTOP]

Why bother? We were getting spanked. Joe could have thrown the red flag, but why would he?

NO, he couldn't have... COACHES ARE NOT ALLOWED TO CHALLENGE WITHIN 2 MINUTES

[SKIN4WAHOOZ]

This thread is waste. It's like being hit by a truck and then arguing over whether the truck was going 55 MPH or 56 MPH.


Nothing to see here ...move along...




You know what is a waste, people like you. To many "know it alls" on this site. Rolling Thunder did you read the title? If you thought it was a waste then why did you come into it? Honestly, most people dont care what you think maybe thats why you are mad at the world.


As far as the the Q: Absolutley bullish. Absolutley should have been reviewed.

[Jofizz]

This thread is waste. It's like being hit by a truck and then arguing over whether the truck was going 55 MPH or 56 MPH.


Nothing to see here ...move along...

+1

[SKINZ33]

This thread is waste. It's like being hit by a truck and then arguing over whether the truck was going 55 MPH or 56 MPH.


Nothing to see here ...move along...

You say it is a waste yet you "waste" your time reading and then replying with a comment that has absolutely nothing to say to the topic....Hmmm.


Anyway, no matter the score, I think there should have been a review.

[JCSMCPCCrskins]

No, I care. It's the principle. If the Patriots are going to play until the gun, the Refs should, too.

exactly, and part of these threads is to discuss the games, so no this thread isnt useless...

[JWB]

The play should have been reviewed. These refs are Jack ****s. Sure it wouldn't have made a difference. Just like thee calls they made in the 4th quarter. They wouldn't have made a difference either. But they were made!

[BossMayne80]

WTF is up with this message board??I posted the exact same thread about 15 minutes ago but mines mysteriously disappeared!!!!!!What the hell??Do I have to have a certain amount of posts to have my thread taken seriously or somthing??I have been a member of this site for awhile now and I don't post much thats why my post count is'nt rediculous.This is crazy,it is'nt the first time this has happened either it happened a few times last year and in 05(Ihave posted topics before other people but it seems folks with higher post counts get their threads posted while mines is deleted or I get put on NNT list,amazing!!!),do some members have favortism or something cuz this is rediculous!!!I can see if topics I come up with are already being discussed but alot of times I come up with a thread several minutes or hours before others,yet mines is gone while theres is posted(not merged)...

[IONTOP]

nevermind...

[BossMayne80]

nevermind...Still similar threads but I get where your coming from.No offense towards you.:)

[Smoot Point Really]

I don't think anyone important really cares that there wasn't a replay.

Nobody important? Nobody important? Like, Joe Gibbs who called a timeout hoping they would review it? Gimme a break... The same rules apply no matter what the score. This is just the same New England BS... It's bad enough you have to play the Patriots, but you also have to contend with homer-calls (like this one and the Moss pass interference). It's not like the Patriots actually need the help. It's the fact they do get help that pisses me off.

Frankly, I was so iritated when they brought Tom Brady back with less than 9 minutes to go and went for it on 4th and 1, up by 38 points... We should've pulled our starters and had a "Slapshot" moment, rushing 11 and not paying attention to the whistles. That would've been something we could've fed off of for next week...

I hope we fix whatever is broken with this team and find a way to face them again.

It's funny... They run the score up on us, and the only thing people complain about is that Joe Gibbs didn't shake hands.

[stretch]

It's because the Patriots are special.

[da#1skinsfan]

They DEFINITELY should have reviewed it. Hell Gibbs even called a TO so they would.

Think about it this way. If Randle El has incentives in his contract that say he has to get x amt of catches and x amt of yards and he comes up short, thats on the refs. Their job is to call the game, whether there is 2 seconds left or 2 minutes or 2 quarters. They blew that.

[h8dacowgirls]

They cant review that play just like they cant call any holding penalties against the pats.

[natsfan3]

Why bother? We were getting spanked. Joe could have thrown the red flag, but why would he?


THATS NOT THE POINT. AND no he couldn't have thrown the flag. Inside 2minutes. He called time out in hopes of a review. It's calls into to question the integrity of the game. It's the principle of doing your job.

[Bzapf]

Even though it was over ARE is having a career year, it would have been nice to see him get credit for the catch.

[Capt'n Obvious]

I wanted them to review it as well, but you could tell the refs just wanted to get the game over with.

:logo:

[IONTOP]

I wanted them to review it as well, but you could tell the refs just wanted to get the game over with.

:logo:


That wasn't it... There was 26 seconds left... The clock would have kept running....


What takes longer, a punt or a completed pass?

[BossMayne80]

We got screwed by the Zeebs yet again lets just deal with it.

[Kocomoe]

Does it even matter that the ref's did not make any holding calls on the line along with the offense so call pick that they do to get a man open on the slants which is holding also , there may be some truth to the patriots paying off the ref's along with some other infaction that they are doing as if they really need too. Our player were talking about this on the sidelines.............. Go Skins :cheers:

[ejay183]

They cant review that play just like they cant call any holding penalties against the pats.

So true, any penalty I can see from my crappy TV that Refs cant see from the ******* field causes my blood to boil.

[tryfuhl]

WTF is up with this message board??I posted the exact same thread about 15 minutes ago but mines mysteriously disappeared!!!!!!What the hell??Do I have to have a certain amount of posts to have my thread taken seriously or somthing??I have been a member of this site for awhile now and I don't post much thats why my post count is'nt rediculous.This is crazy,it is'nt the first time this has happened either it happened a few times last year and in 05(Ihave posted topics before other people but it seems folks with higher post counts get their threads posted while mines is deleted or I get put on NNT list,amazing!!!),do some members have favortism or something cuz this is rediculous!!!I can see if topics I come up with are already being discussed but alot of times I come up with a thread several minutes or hours before others,yet mines is gone while theres is posted(not merged)...

You think that you're the only one that creates threads that other people come through and do the same later?

[rinkleroot]

You know what is a waste, people like you. To many "know it alls" on this site. Rolling Thunder did you read the title? If you thought it was a waste then why did you come into it? Honestly, most people dont care what you think maybe thats why you are mad at the world.


As far as the the Q: Absolutley bullish. Absolutley should have been reviewed.

Agreed, it should have been reviewed and overturned.

[BossMayne80]

You think that you're the only one that creates threads that other people come through and do the same later?If my thread gets deleted then someones who creates the same or similar ones later should be deleted also.

[SkinSince87]

wouldnt have made a difference what so ever infact it better cause maybe another lineman wouldve went down the next play or portis getting hurt again

[cphil006]

It must have happend after the 3rd quarter because that is when I stopped watching.

[BossMayne80]

wouldnt have made a difference what so ever infact it better cause maybe another lineman wouldve went down the next play or portis getting hurt againIt's the principal of the matter everyone knows that if it was overturned it would have made no difference.

[Redskin4ever]

I thought the refs were fine today. There wasn't much competition, so they didn't have a hard job. However, the Moss TD was definitely a push off. It was very blatant, I don't know how they didn't call it. And the ARE catch being called incomplete, was definitely a joke. It is sad when a diehard football fan like myself doesn't even know what a catch is anymore. The NFL has so watered down the rule, that it is up to the interpretation of the ref and replay officials. A catch is a catch, regardless of if the ball hit the ground after a player ran 5 yards down the field after the catch.

[GaryGreenMonk]

At that point they weren't bothering with anything. One of our pass plays that was actually caught with about 4 mins left, Moss ran out of bounds and they didnt stop the clock, just left it running. I just laughed to myself cause the skins' didn't even care or complain.

[zskins]

This thread is waste. It's like being hit by a truck and then arguing over whether the truck was going 55 MPH or 56 MPH.


Nothing to see here ...move along...

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[ke27on]

I dont care if it wasnt going to make any difference in the game. Its principles! It was a catch first of all... and if the play is questionable WHAT do the refs have to lose by reviewing it?

That and randy moss shoving off then catching a td... I understand we would have lost anyways, but why do we have to have bad calls on top of everything.

[WinSkins]

That's asking alot from NFL officials. You know they like to check out early so they can hopefully get to Ruby Tuesday's before the early bird expires...

True :laugh:

[[[ghost]]]

No, I care. It's the principle. If the Patriots are going to play until the gun, the Refs should, too.

Good logic. I just think that ref had no business Effing up the call to begin with.

[Veretax]

They did us a favor. I really couldnt wait for the game to be over...

At that point I just wanted the game over so I'd agree with taht asessment.

[SkinsNumberOne]

Joe couldn't throw the red flag as it was under 2-minutes. In fact, he took a TIMEOUT even though that was a third down play and we were obviously going to punt. Why? So they could replay it in the booth. Did they?
Of course not.

Because the NFL is a big joke sometimes. Heaven forbid a team wants to play 60 minutes of the game people pay to watch.

[KingGibbs]

I know right. That play could've made the difference and saved the embarassment of losing 52-7 and made it much closer like, oh I don't know, 52-10. :doh:

[IONTOP]

I know right. That play could've made the difference and saved the embarassment of losing 52-7 and made it much closer like, oh I don't know, 52-10. :doh:


You're right... I should have realized this before I posted it....


Oh wait a minute.....






Did it affect the outcome of the game? NO
Did it have anything to do with us losing? NO
Did they blatantly ignore the rules? HELL YES

[SkinsNumberOne]

I know right. That play could've made the difference and saved the embarassment of losing 52-7 and made it much closer like, oh I don't know, 52-10. :doh:
I know, the Skins should have taken a knee?

Then why even bother with your logic? If it's complete, it's complete. If it's incomplete, it's incomplete. Otherwise why play.

You'd make a good coach dude! Just have the team walk out when they're getting beaten too badly to win, nice.

*The point, which somehow gets lost by some of you, is that the clock is still running and a team made a completion. It should be called a completion. It's not that hard to understand. They're playing a game which supposedly has rules. It doesn't matter that it wouldn't have affected the outcome. But I guess it's better to kick a dog when it's down- might as well call it incomplete huh? I like your thinking.

[Seabee1973]

They DEFINITELY should have reviewed it. Hell Gibbs even called a TO so they would.

Think about it this way. If Randle El has incentives in his contract that say he has to get x amt of catches and x amt of yards and he comes up short, thats on the refs. Their job is to call the game, whether there is 2 seconds left or 2 minutes or 2 quarters. They blew that.

Actually its on the coaches to get him the ball more

[Bang]

Maybe the ref's communication with the booth suddenly went out...
Suffering from the weird magnetism of that stadium.. opposing team's headsets malfunction on a regular basis.

~Bang

[KingGibbs]

You're right... I should have realized this before I posted it....


Oh wait a minute.....

I'm just kidding my man. Laughter is a much needed prescription for me today.

[slaga]

To answer the the OP's question, because the referee's did not feel it was necessary. They are not required to review all of the plays in the final 2 minutes and they did not review this play. That is life in the NFL. You win some and you lose some. It really upsets me when the ref's do not review a play that could have game changing consequences but that was not the case. It is over. Time to look forward to the Jets.

HTTR

[EnFoRcEr_uPu]

I totally agree.

Me too. According to the NFL rules, that ball was a clear catch and was forced out by contact with the ground. Even if it had been ruled a fumble, he recovered it. He caught the ball, took 2 steps and then was tackled.