Did we beat the Jets?

[DirtyGunz8]

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Okay, there it is. Count em'. Six games we lost LAST year by 7 points or less. Last year we lost the close games and we had a 5-ll record to show for it. People were whining and moaning about all the close games we lost last year. This year, we're winning them and people are still griping. What gives!?!?! We could have gone 11-5 if we won the close games, but we didn't. You can't blow out every team. Yeah we eked by the Jets. SO WHAT. Come play-off time do you honestly think every team playing crushed every opponent? Hail Redskins! Hail Victory! If you don't love my squad @#$% off!

[InsaneBoost]

I guess ?

[aairricc]

for me at least, its not so much that im not happy about winning, its that the style we won against a bad team makes me nervous about the following weeks...if we won all those games, i wouldnt care that they were close, i just want some peace of mind that we are improving

[.Guy.]

a win is a win is a win.

[FanboyOf91]

we could have won 2 more close games this year, that's the major gripe I think

[One Shot]

Very nice.....that's what's seperating this team from last year's team. The thing is, everybody and his uncle around here is expecting us to blow out bad teams, because they think that's an indication of how good your team is.

Wrong....finding a way to win games, no matter how, is an indication of how good your team is.

[jleopiper]

I just hope that this win works to give our O-line some confidence on the run game. No, we won't be able to run that way against every team, but this could help to build line chemistry, which this team needs in order to play Redskins-style offense.:2cents:

[#98QBKiller]

Huh?


Man, is there something in that Adams Morgan water?

[Santana_Fan]

Yea I thought about that too. But we did beat the Jets, we came back 14 points, and not only that, but we do the same thing as the Jets (when we have leads). I just think we were determined.

[Soup]

who really cares, this francise needs a superbowl win bad. Until they produce a team that can go to the superbowl and have a chance to win , most people will always moan and to tell you the truth the redskin fans based on their loyalty really need a superbowl win.

[pimpumd]

Very nice.....that's what's seperating this team from last year's team. The thing is, everybody and his uncle around here is expecting us to blow out bad teams, because they think that's an indication of how good your team is.

Wrong....finding a way to win games, no matter how, is an indication of how good your team is.

You are right to a point, but it's not as black and white as you're making it out. Yes, finding a way to win games, no matter how, is ONE indication of a team's performance. However, good teams don't find themselves going down to the wire, game after game, with bad teams. Every bad team we've played this year has come down to the very end (Miami, Philly, Zona, Jets). Yes, winning those games is nice and all, and if feels a lot better than last year, but to pretend that the outcome in those games couldn't very well have gone the other way is turning a blind eye to the situation.

[Maximus71]

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Okay, there it is. Count em'. Six games we lost LAST year by 7 points or less. Last year we lost the close games and we had a 5-ll record to show for it. People were whining and moaning about all the close games we lost last year. This year, we're winning them and people are still griping. What gives!?!?! We could have gone 11-5 if we won the close games, but we didn't. You can't blow out every team. Yeah we eked by the Jets. SO WHAT. Come play-off time do you honestly think every team playing crushed every opponent? Hail Redskins! Hail Victory! If you don't love my squad @#$% off!




How many teams did you see last year that were pass happy teams and were blowing up the score boards... I think people are complaining because they want the Redskins to be able to compete. We saw what happened to us vs the Pats.. Same thing is going to happen vs. Dallas, Bucs and the Gmen, if we dont match their passing attacks with our own its going to be a long season.

[Redskins4ever]

The Packers and Giants beat us, and that's two games we should have won. Are we better than those teams because we lost to them and should have beaten them?

[Robbynice]

for me at least, its not so much that im not happy about winning, its that the style we won against a bad team makes me nervous about the following weeks...if we won all those games, i wouldnt care that they were close, i just want some peace of mind that we are improving
It is improvement in itself that we are now capable of winning close games.

[Robbynice]

The Packers and Giants beat us, and that's two games we should have won. Are we better than those teams because we lost to them and should have beaten them?
What a question. Watch them avoiding this question like a plague...

[tone_dubbz]

The close games we've won, we could have easily lost.

[SkinsFan48]

Im in, a Win is a Win
a win is a win is a win.

[RAAZ227]

yes..

the score was 23-20...

[Robbynice]

The close games we've won, we could have easily lost.
True but how convienent of you to forget the close games we lost.

[Chachie]

I'm still steaming over the Giants game. :(

[elkabong82]

You are right to a point, but it's not as black and white as you're making it out. Yes, finding a way to win games, no matter how, is ONE indication of a team's performance. However, good teams don't find themselves going down to the wire, game after game, with bad teams. Every bad team we've played this year has come down to the very end (Miami, Philly, Zona, Jets). Yes, winning those games is nice and all, and if feels a lot better than last year, but to pretend that the outcome in those games couldn't very well have gone the other way is turning a blind eye to the situation.

I understand your skepticism here. But, Philly we beat soundly. Even if they had gotten that last TD, they would have still needed a 2 point conversion to tie. If things had gone our way, that deep bomb connects with Moss and Philly is blown out of the water, in THEIR house. The Miami team now doesn't represent the Miami team we played. However, Miami almost beat the Giants. So are the Giants that terrible? Arizona is hit or miss each game. They did beat Pittsburgh. The Jets had a new starter at QB, who is obviously more effective than Pennington. The Jets relied on 42 pass attempts by Clemens and a KR for a TD.

So while the outcome in those games COULD have gone the other way, they didn't. We held strong despite some short-comings, and that is more important than the margin of victory. Also, 2 of the 3 games we lost COULD have gone our way.

[chaaarmndr]

I like it. A win is a win.

[4everaSkin]

MIN 19-16 SKINS

TEN 25-22 SKINS

T.B. 17-20 SKINS

PHI 21-19 SKINS

STL 37-31 SKINS

NYG 34-28 SKINS

Okay, there it is. Count em'. Six games we lost LAST year by 7 points or less. Last year we lost the close games and we had a 5-ll record to show for it. People were whining and moaning about all the close games we lost last year. This year, we're winning them and people are still griping. What gives!?!?! We could have gone 11-5 if we won the close games, but we didn't. You can't blow out every team. Yeah we eked by the Jets. SO WHAT. Come play-off time do you honestly think every team playing crushed every opponent? Hail Redskins! Hail Victory! If you don't love my squad @#$% off!



Can you type with a smaller font. I can still see it :rolleyes:

[RAAZ227]

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[youngestson]

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That will leave a mark. :laugh:

[LoveDaSkins172645]

Let us all remember the Jet's aren't as bad as what thier records indicate. That team appears to be snake bit this year, a win is a win.

[Popeman38]

The close games we've won, we could have easily lost.Aned if my aunt had a dick she'd be my uncle. What is your point? We are 5 up, 3 down halfway through the season. Nobody put an * next to the Ravens making the playoffs (and winning a SB) with the most putrid offense ever. A win is a win, and a loss is a loss. The 3 point loss to the Packers counts the same as the 45 point loss to the Patriots. Just like the 3 point win over the Jets counts the same as the 31 point win over the Lions. Style points, last I checked, did not exist in the standings. W-L, that is all.

[da#1skinsfan]

I htink its a great point man and I agree with you.

We lost those close games last year. This year we're winning them. And people complain about no improvement.

This isnt basketball. You dont put together a winner in a year, unless your the patriots, in which bob kraft clearly made a deal with satan himself.

Last year we lost those games, this year we're finding a way to win them, that can only bring more positives this year and for years to come.

[wysknz1]

Dallas very easily could have beaten NE. Bills almost beat Dallas, We almost beat GB. GB beat Denver. Denver beat Pittsburgh. Cards beat Pitts. We beat the Cards. Miami almost beats NYG and we lost to NYG. Chicago beat GB Lost to the Lions we beat the lions etc etc. How do you figgure it all? It's all relative. NE could go undefeated and lose thier 1st playoff game. Luck, injuries all play such a role in it all. What searates the real good teams from the real bad teams?

[jrockster21]

I get what the OP is saying, and its a very valid point. Last year we were 0-7 in the close games - we could have been 12-4 if we'd won those. This year, we're 2-2 in the "close games," an improvement. We're going to have to win a few more ugly games if we hope to make the playoffs, that's for sure.

[Craig]

did you say something?

[Heidenreich]

What nobody wants to mention is that this game was NOTHING like the Arizona game.

We did everything in our power to give that game away.

Yesterday, we spotted the other team a 14 point lead, yet still managed to come back & win the game.

Totally different scenario.

[armada58]

MIN 19-16 SKINS

TEN 25-22 SKINS

T.B. 17-20 SKINS

PHI 21-19 SKINS

STL 37-31 SKINS

NYG 34-28 SKINS

Okay, there it is. Count em'. Six games we lost LAST year by 7 points or less. Last year we lost the close games and we had a 5-ll record to show for it. People were whining and moaning about all the close games we lost last year. This year, we're winning them and people are still griping. What gives!?!?! We could have gone 11-5 if we won the close games, but we didn't. You can't blow out every team. Yeah we eked by the Jets. SO WHAT. Come play-off time do you honestly think every team playing crushed every opponent? Hail Redskins! Hail Victory! If you don't love my squad @#$% off!



Good point and I agree with you. My angst is not with winning. A win is a win, obviously. I'll take 'em any way I can get 'em. Close games, Overtime, Blowouts, etc. As long as we get the "W", I'm happy.

The problem lies in what I'm seeing during the game. The way they are playing does not provide me with ANY confidence in winning on Sunday. It also doesn't make me think we're going to lose on Sunday either. I'm 100% uncertain about this team. That's the best way I can describe it. As a bleed burgundy & gold fan, I don't like that feeling. Especially when I believe this team should be playing much better than it has.

[Chief skin]

we won, got a hard fought W from a desperate Jets team

[ttr77]

Unfortunately, when every game comes down to the last play luck matters almost as much as skill. Champions cannot win it all based on luck. Unless your name is Tom Brady, your luck will eventually run out.

[DirtyGunz8]

Can you type with a smaller font. I can still see it :rolleyes:
what are you talking about

[DallasSucks19922010]

if you win by 100 points or 1 point. a win is a win in the record book.

[Taylor 36]

Very nice.....that's what's seperating this team from last year's team. The thing is, everybody and his uncle around here is expecting us to blow out bad teams, because they think that's an indication of how good your team is.

Wrong....finding a way to win games, no matter how, is an indication of how good your team is.:cheers:

[skinsn24]

MIN 19-16 SKINS

TEN 25-22 SKINS

T.B. 17-20 SKINS

PHI 21-19 SKINS

STL 37-31 SKINS

NYG 34-28 SKINS

Okay, there it is. Count em'. Six games we lost LAST year by 7 points or less. Last year we lost the close games and we had a 5-ll record to show for it. People were whining and moaning about all the close games we lost last year. This year, we're winning them and people are still griping. What gives!?!?! We could have gone 11-5 if we won the close games, but we didn't. You can't blow out every team. Yeah we eked by the Jets. SO WHAT. Come play-off time do you honestly think every team playing crushed every opponent? Hail Redskins! Hail Victory! If you don't love my squad @#$% off!



Did you reall include the week 17 loss to the gaints as a close game?:doh:
I mean i realize what the score was but we scored most of those points agaisnt prevent style defenses and gave up 200+ to Barber

[Walking Deadman]

Very nice.....that's what's seperating this team from last year's team. The thing is, everybody and his uncle around here is expecting us to blow out bad teams, because they think that's an indication of how good your team is.

Wrong....finding a way to win games, no matter how, is an indication of how good your team is.

:applause: not much of a better way of saying it.

Let me add this however:
we have yet in 2007 to lose to a team (currently) with a losing record.

and the three games we lost are against teams with a combined record of:
22-3.

Last year's team wouldn't have beaten the Jets. This 2007 team did and was able to hold onto games like Miami, Arizona and Philly.

[tryfuhl]

No, not every team crushes the other, but not many screw themselves over or fail to reach a point of chemistry normally as much. To think that you liken us to a contender to move through the playoffs is beyond me, I have as much hope as the biggest homer, but we're not at that point, yet...

[MEANDWARF]

a win is a win is a win.



Well said!:applause:

[S.T.real,lights,out]

did you forget the Giants and Packers games?