Clinton Portis 2nd in NFC rushing yards, 7th overall....

[Zazzaro703]

So what do you all you haters have to say this week? It was apparent that with the line blocking better and finally giving Portis consistent rushing attempts he played the way we all know he can play. I think a lot of apologizes are in order. Not to mention last week Portis said he knew he needed to step up and put this team on his back and i think the coaches listened to him and gave him the opportunity. The only person out rushing him in the NFC is Peterson who actually leads the entire league in rushing. He also is tied for third in touchdowns with 6. So what do you all have to say now? :helmet:

*edit* I will concede that he does look like he doesnt have that 6th gear and break away speed that he has shown in the past. I do however think that its not gone, he just wasnt completely in game shape and maybe his knee has been bothering him.

[JaimeDeCurry]

Psh. Portis is soooo overrated...

[Mackdaddydean]

Well, im not one of the ones who was bashing him, but as a pre-law student I will defend my fellow extremskins who have not been happy with Portis as of late by using one word:

Consistency.

If he can continue this level of play from week to week, you will get many apologies. If not, you will get none.

[kubstix]

So what do you all you haters have to say this week? It was apparent that with the line blocking better and finally giving Portis consistent rushing attempts he played the way we all know he can play. I think a lot of apologizes are in order. Not to mention last week Portis said he knew he needed to step up and put this team on his back and i think the coaches listened to him and gave him the opportunity. The only person out rushing him in the NFC is Peterson who actually leads the entire league in rushing. He also is tied for third in touchdowns with 6. So what do you all have to say now? :helmet:

*edit* I will concede that he does look like he doesnt have that 6th gear and break away speed that he has shown in the past. I do however think that its not gone, he just wasnt completely in game shape and maybe his knee has been bothering him.

What? What the Jets run defense ranked again? Listen, when I see consistancy ill change my mind. Right now, he showed me on Sunday his potential and how physical he can be. If he keeps it up, I have no problem changing my mind. But one game isnt going to change it yet.

[worstSeat]

I Love Coach Spanky.

[JaimeDeCurry]

What? What the Jets run defense ranked again? Listen, when I see consistancy ill change my mind. Right now, he showed me on Sunday his potential and how physical he can be. If he keeps it up, I have no problem changing my mind. But one game isnt going to change it yet.

I think the point is more that when he has even just "decent" line play, Portis can and will run all over the opponent. People are saying that Portis has lost a step and that he's never going to be the same again...I think this week proved (along with the rest of the games this season) that if he can have blocking that at least lets him get past the line of scrimmage, he can do some serious damage.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

When did being legitimately critical become being a "hater?"

Portis was awesome this week.

It was also his first 100-yard game since Week 4 of 2006.

Hopefully, this is a sign that he is healthy and ready to roll.

Or it could be a sign that the Jets are truly pitiful on defense.

We will find out, but it is encouraging.

[RenegadeTK]

pro bowl.... book it

[drone007]

The person who mentioned consistency is exactly right.

This thread is the typical call out thread, but why can't everyone understand that rankings and numbers are not necessarily the important aspect here? The Jets have a horrible defense and we were able to run down their throats. No one is pissed about that or wishing Portis had a bad day running against them, but by no means can you use this game as the "AH HA! You were all wrong" indicator.

The fact that Portis had a 200yd rushing day and it jolted him up the ranks is great for him and fantasy football. But the fact of the matter is that we have to hope our offensive line doesn't sustain any more injuries and that it can use this great rushing day as a catapult for the rest of the year. If they can't, it doesn't amtter who's wrong or right about Portis in general -- it's gonna be a long second half of the year.

[TheDoyler23]

Well, im not one of the ones who was bashing him, but as a pre-law student I will defend my fellow extremskins who have not been happy with Portis as of late by using one word:

Consistency.

If he can continue this level of play from week to week, you will get many apologies. If not, you will get none.

Name the RB (Answer in black) that has rushing games of: 25, 43, 62, 67, 40, 132 and 198 this season. Has he been tremendously consistent?


A: Tomlinson.

[nace14]

if you need to see consistency in numbers in order to justify what clinton portis does for our offense and our football team, then you don't know how to evaluate an nfl player at all.
i'm so sick and tired of you stat fanatics out there. learn what the game of football is about before you even think about knocking portis again.

[909997]

if u want consistency look at portis career #'s.

[PCRoughrider]

There are a lot of bad running backs in the NFC.

[TotalRecall]

I haven't "hated" on Portis yet. But this thread is pathetic. Portis also has the 3rd highest rushing attempts in the NFC and the 9th highest rushing attempts in the NFL. So, he's expect to be ranked with that many yards. Not to mention the Jets' defense is 29th against the run and give up 152 yards rushing per game. Betts can run just as well as Portis if they gave him the ball.

Savor it while it last cause Portis isn't going to be here next season unless he takes a pay cut.

[Dirk Diggler]

pro bowl.... book it

Um, I wouldn't do that. He got the shaft in 2005, as did other Redskins. Warrick freakin Dunn made it over Portis and he had I think 3 or 4 TDs all season. There is a real Redskin bias when it comes to the HOF and Pro Bowl.

[bulldog]

Portis and Moss have been hurt and less than 100% for much of the past 2 seasons. That is not hating, just stating the obvious on why the Redskins offense has been so short of big plays since 2005.

The fact Portis is now healthy enough to carry the full load and then some is great news.

At the same time, we have to recognize that the Jets' rush defense is ranked in the bottom five in the NFL. Those off tackle runs behind Samuels and Kendall that worked over and over again on Sunday will be defensed better by the Eagles, Cowboys and Vikings down the road.

The trick for Portis, Gibbs and the entire offense is to BUILD on this ground attack next week by continuing to pick up first downs and by beginning to take advantage through the air of teams creeping closer to the line of scrimmage.

There is no reason for the Redskins NOT to get Moss and Randle El more involved in the attack.

There is also no reason for the team NOT to use Keenan McCardell more in the slot position and let him be the #3 receiver.

For the Redskins to make believe that James Thrash and Brandon Lloyd are better receivers than McCardell is just a joke.

McCardell might not be a deep threat at 37 but he runs the best routes on the team and has shown he can still get open, especially in the middle of the field.

The Redskins other receivers don't excel at making a living over the middle.

[skinpride1]

Portis ran against a very bad run defense :laugh: :laugh: Games like this do help build confidence back.

[fuji869]

629 yard at the mid season mark. Well on his way to another 100 yard season but probably not going to break the Redskin Single Season Record of 1,561 who was set my non other that Clinton Portis! :cheers:

http://www.redskins.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/MLKLAAJAIFFN/AP071104021184pg.jpg

[redman]

The trick for Portis, Gibbs and the entire offense is to BUILD on this ground attack next week by continuing to pick up first downs and by beginning to take advantage through the air of teams creeping closer to the line of scrimmage.

There is no reason for the Redskins NOT to get Moss and Randle El more involved in the attack.

There is also no reason for the team NOT to use Keenan McCardell more in the slot position and let him be the #3 receiver.

For the Redskins to make believe that James Thrash and Brandon Lloyd are better receivers than McCardell is just a joke.

McCardell might not be a deep threat at 37 but he runs the best routes on the team and has shown he can still get open, especially in the middle of the field.

The Redskins other receivers don't excel at making a living over the middle.

Great post. I'm just highlighting what I agreed with most. The team's (mis)handling of McCardell is mystifying to me.

[Park City Skins]

Great post. I'm just highlighting what I agreed with most. The team's (mis)handling of McCardell is mystifying to me.
I may have to get my eyes checked after that one.


;)

[iheartskins]

Great post. I'm just highlighting what I agreed with most. The team's (mis)handling of McCardell is mystifying to me.
Wait, which part did you agree with?

[RDSKNFN_48]

Great post. I'm just highlighting what I agreed with most. The team's (mis)handling of McCardell is mystifying to me.


Hmmmm, it took the (mis)handling of McCardell to get this team to FINALLY mystify you? LMAO

I've been mystified since Norv.

[onnie007]

Well, im not one of the ones who was bashing him, but as a pre-law student I will defend my fellow extremskins who have not been happy with Portis as of late by using one word:

Consistency.

If he can continue this level of play from week to week, you will get many apologies. If not, you will get none.

Well, from one law student to a pre-law student, you fail to acknowledge that an ELEMENT to rushing the football is the blocking from the offensive line. Any idiot can look at a running back's numbers and declare him consistent or inconsistent. The blocking hasn't been there all year and it has a lot to do with the injuries to the right side of the OL. What makes me really mad is that the OL needed a pep talk this past week from Buges and JG in order to get their act together. We didn't make any changes on the OL or anything. They just decided to Man-Up this past weekend and just like magic, CP has almost 200 yards rushing. CP is always ready. When the OL (specifically Fabini & Wade) are ready to be physical then our rushing attack thrives. So how about we monitor the "Consistency" of the OL before we start calling for the head of CP who has proven many times that he can and will do his job when others do theirs.

[andyburd]

Um, 50 million reasons to run for 1500+ every year when healthy. He is supposed to do this week in and week out. I think what we want to see is consistancy, that's all. Also, the Jets D SUCKS

[skinsfan07]

if you need to see consistency in numbers in order to justify what clinton portis does for our offense and our football team, then you don't know how to evaluate an nfl player at all.
i'm so sick and tired of you stat fanatics out there. learn what the game of football is about before you even think about knocking portis again.

agreeed.

[TaylorPickSix]

If he keeps scoring TDs I think he'll make Pro Bowl with Peterson and someone else. All the big name NFC running backs are either hurt or sucking...

[Zazzaro703]

What? What the Jets run defense ranked again? Listen, when I see consistancy ill change my mind. Right now, he showed me on Sunday his potential and how physical he can be. If he keeps it up, I have no problem changing my mind. But one game isnt going to change it yet.

Doesnt matter what their run defense is, they still have to go out and execute the plays that are called which they were not doing up until this game for the most part, especially part of the line. So maybe their run D isnt that great, but it showed what can happen if the line performs to the level they could/should be. If they can get Portis thru the line and to the 2nd level, he can still make people miss and gain big chunks of yards. Portis's 30+ yard run is longer than any run Betts has had in his career.

[pierce51]

Cpcpcpcpcpcpcpcpcpcpcpcpcpcpcpcpcpcpcpcpcpcpcp

[Zazzaro703]

There is also no reason for the team NOT to use Keenan McCardell more in the slot position and let him be the #3 receiver.

For the Redskins to make believe that James Thrash and Brandon Lloyd are better receivers than McCardell is just a joke.

McCardell might not be a deep threat at 37 but he runs the best routes on the team and has shown he can still get open, especially in the middle of the field.

The Redskins other receivers don't excel at making a living over the middle.

Couldnt agree with you more. I just dont understand why in the world they dont get him on the field. I think Moss, ARE, and McCardell is a pretty damn solid WR core, with Cooley running routes to. Moss would probably draw the double team, ARE has proven his needs defensive attention, and McCardell has seen every defense they could throw at him and knows where to go to get open. Let the man play damn. It makes me sick to see the Redskins throw one out of the two deep balls they throw all game to James Thrash. Its a waste i think. Please put McCardell in the game. Moss, ARE, McCardell, Cooley, Sellers, Portis are in our skill positions on offense. I really cant think of any other team in the league other than the Pats and Colts on paper that can match the skill of those players all on the field at the same time.

[bulldog]

Step 1 for this team to get serious in my mind is to go ahead and de-activate Lloyd for the rest of the season. Let him collect his paycheck at home, out of sight and definitely very much out of mind :)

Step 2 is to cruelly evaluate the talent and make some hard decisions on playing time.

We all know the coaches love James Thrash but he is just not a threat at WR at age 34.

[iheartskins]

We all know the coaches love James Thrash but he is just not a threat at WR at age 34.
That's a spring chicken compared to the coaches! :)

[cphil006]

Portis and Moss have been hurt and less than 100% for much of the past 2 seasons. That is not hating, just stating the obvious on why the Redskins offense has been so short of big plays since 2005.

The fact Portis is now healthy enough to carry the full load and then some is great news.

At the same time, we have to recognize that the Jets' rush defense is ranked in the bottom five in the NFL. Those off tackle runs behind Samuels and Kendall that worked over and over again on Sunday will be defensed better by the Eagles, Cowboys and Vikings down the road.

The trick for Portis, Gibbs and the entire offense is to BUILD on this ground attack next week by continuing to pick up first downs and by beginning to take advantage through the air of teams creeping closer to the line of scrimmage.

There is no reason for the Redskins NOT to get Moss and Randle El more involved in the attack.

There is also no reason for the team NOT to use Keenan McCardell more in the slot position and let him be the #3 receiver.

For the Redskins to make believe that James Thrash and Brandon Lloyd are better receivers than McCardell is just a joke.

McCardell might not be a deep threat at 37 but he runs the best routes on the team and has shown he can still get open, especially in the middle of the field.

The Redskins other receivers don't excel at making a living over the middle.

I agree with most everything you said, ESPECIALLY about McCardell... play him... he will catch anything... He runs the best routes.

[cphil006]

We all know the coaches love James Thrash but he is just not a threat at WR at age 34.

That could be a good thing, if we take advantage of that. If they don't play him as hard as Moss, hopefully he'll be open more and Campbell can find him.

He won't make a play on the ball if covered. That is a downside and I think McCardell could and has better hands.

[Uno Boss]

Him being able to make that big of a jump in one week means that he was running no worse than any other top backs this year....


it was just magnified because we were spoiled....


realistically he can not go over 100 yards again this season and still be a 1300 yard back 1 year removed from two crucial injuries.....on of them season ending....




To be 7th overall
behind a bum o line, after a slow start and only one 30 yard run thus far and having no real deep threat is great.....



For the redskins to still be 5-3 with all of that is even better....:applause:

[taylorcoreskin]

CP is the real deal. I forsee him getting 800+ yards in the second half of the season.

[sens11]

Nothing wrong with letting Portis carry this team! If the man wants the ball.. give it to him!

[CliffBattles]

This is the Portis that we gave up Champ Bailey, a 2nd round pick, and all that $$$ for:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XBvSfY-gaF4


...not the best quality, but only 17 seconds long. Such a difference in speed, from the running back he is now.

[professor21]

do your homework.

jets run defense is horrible, their line and LB are horrible against the line.

eagles rank 8th, we'll be seeing a lot less from CP this week.

if we had all our starters on the o-line we'd be having a great running game, but unfortunately thats not happening.

CP definately doesn't look 100% either.

i hope he gets 100% soon

[CliffBattles]

It's pretty amazing that CP turned 26 only two months ago, yet is already ranked 48th in all-time rushing yards, and 36th in all-time rushing TDs.

You know he will be steadily moving up those lists every couple of TDs, and every 10 or so yards, too.

I hope, at his young age, he can regain some of his former abilities, and play for many more years.



edit, here is a link to his stats:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/PortCl00.htm

[Mister Happy]

Well, im not one of the ones who was bashing him, but as a pre-law student I will defend my fellow extremskins who have not been happy with Portis as of late by using one word:

Consistency.

If he can continue this level of play from week to week, you will get many apologies. If not, you will get none.

Clinton has been in the top 10 in the NFL in rushing yards for 5 of his 6 seasons (He was injured in 2006.).

How's that for consistency?

Quick. Name all the other RBs consistent enough to be in the top 10 for 5 or more times since 2002.

There's one - LT. Tiki Barber had 4, and nobody else had more than 3.

[Dance04]

CP has had no threat of an air attack ( no wr has cuaght a td pass, only 6 passign TD's in 8 games )

CP has had a battered OL

CP has had reduced carries because of betts

Put Tomlinson in that position and he wouldnt have done anything either.

Oh wait, tomlinson has been having almost the same exact year as CP. hhmmm

He is a stud, the heart and soul of our offence and a leader on this team.

he has proven consistency over his entire career, he has nothing left to prove to me or anybody else.

[Dance04]

Clinton has been in the top 10 in the NFL in rushing yards for 5 of his 6 seasons (He was injured in 2006.).

How's that for consistency?

Quick. Name all the other RBs consistent enough to be in the top 10 for 5 or more times since 2002.

There's one - LT. Tiki Barber had 4, and nobody else had more than 3.

he has been top 5 three times since 2002. Only other back to do that? Ladainian Tomlinson

[RenegadeTK]

It's pretty amazing that CP turned 26 only two months ago, yet is already ranked 48th in all-time rushing yards, and 36th in all-time rushing TDs.

You know he will be steadily moving up those lists every couple of TDs, and every 10 or so yards, too.

I hope, at his young age, he can regain some of his former abilities, and play for many more years.



edit, here is a link to his stats:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/PortCl00.htm

good statistics....

people forget how accomplished he is, and dont realize that he is just getting his legs back. the man didnt plays a snap since mid-season of last year. he needed time to recover, and then to knock the rust off. i never doubted his ability to run when he has the opportunity. this is the man that put the offense on his back in 2005 (his last healthy season)....

i know the eagles defense is a whole different story than the jets, but i still have faith we will move the ball effectively. our oline has had a couple weeks to gel together and CP is foaming at the mouth to get the ball in his hands..... i cant wait for the second half of the season

[RenegadeTK]

CP

He is a stud, the heart and soul of our offence and a leader on this team.

he has proven consistency over his entire career, he has nothing left to prove to me or anybody else.

thats the truth. he is the most intense leader on our offense that can back it up with his performance

[Zazzaro703]

do your homework.

jets run defense is horrible, their line and LB are horrible against the line.

eagles rank 8th, we'll be seeing a lot less from CP this week.

if we had all our starters on the o-line we'd be having a great running game, but unfortunately thats not happening.

CP definately doesn't look 100% either.

i hope he gets 100% soon

Like i said before, Even if they have bad run defense, we still have to execute the play that is called. And it proves my point that if the line blocks for him and gets him to the 2nd level like they are supposed to without having to juke someone in the backfield or at the line or even worse getting hit in the backfield, he will run all over people. It just shows it wasnt Portis struggling as much as it was the line.

This thread was for the people that were absolutely bashing him, not the people just questioning. The folks that keep demanding a trade, and to put Betts in the game because he is the better back. The folks asking for a receipt of the Champ Portis trade. Champ in Denver has a chance to impact the game on 5-8 plays, Portis if used right has a chance 25 times a game. I also saw champ get smoked in the green bay game for a long TD, there is no such thing a a complete shut down corner. Also like i said before, in the Jets game Portis and Campbell had runs longer than Bett's career long run of 27 or 28 yards. Im not hating on Betts, i love him in the role he played on Sunday spelling Portis. But i feel like for this team to have the best chance to win, thats the role he needs to play.

[Zazzaro703]

Let us also not forget that Portis has always had pretty good games against the Eagles with TDs to the people that are saying the Jets arent the Eagles. He is an Eagle Killer. The Eagles wont be able to run up and down the field on us this week like last year when our Defense was crippled. I expect us to be able to run the ball on them. We just have to be able to get him thru the line.

[Zazzaro703]

It's pretty amazing that CP turned 26 only two months ago, yet is already ranked 48th in all-time rushing yards, and 36th in all-time rushing TDs.

You know he will be steadily moving up those lists every couple of TDs, and every 10 or so yards, too.

I hope, at his young age, he can regain some of his former abilities, and play for many more years.



edit, here is a link to his stats:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/PortCl00.htm

Another stat out there is that coming into this season there was only one running back that averaged more yards per game for their career than Portis (i think it was Gale Sayers or Walter Peyton but im drawing a blank at the moment). Right behind Portis in third was Barry Sanders. Portis for his career was averaging right about 100 yards a game. Im sure that stat has taken a hit because of this year, but he has got to still be up there, and with a few more 100+ yard games this season he will get back up there.

[RenegadeTK]

Another stat out there is that coming into this season there was only one running back that averaged more yards per game for their career than Portis (i think it was Gale Sayers or Walter Peyton but im drawing a blank at the moment). Right behind Portis in third was Barry Sanders. Portis for his career was averaging right about 100 yards a game. Im sure that stat has taken a hit because of this year, but he has got to still be up there, and with a few more 100+ yard games this season he will get back up there.

yeah... the whole "interchangable parts" debacle really set him back

[adamyesme1111]

Check my posts, I wasn't neccesarily a supporter of his, but I didn't say he should get benched for Ladell either. He showed up on sunday. I was also impressed with the way our line was playing.

[SlinginSammy HOF '63]

I've been a complainer, but my issue is his health and consistency. I like what I saw yesterday. His speed isn't what it used to be. What I saw yesterday was a power runner. I see on the roster he's listed as 223. I didn't know he put on more weight. I thought he was hovering around 210. In any case if the lightning speed and cuts are gone I think he could reinvent himself as a power runner. If he is 223 it would be nice to see him put on 5-7 more pounds and start hitting the line at full speed and less backfield dancing. I'mguessing he has 2-3 good years left after this one. I say go for it. Power runner.

[Mackdaddydean]

Clinton has been in the top 10 in the NFL in rushing yards for 5 of his 6 seasons (He was injured in 2006.).

How's that for consistency?

Quick. Name all the other RBs consistent enough to be in the top 10 for 5 or more times since 2002.

There's one - LT. Tiki Barber had 4, and nobody else had more than 3.

We're talking about THIS season bro. Not him as a whole. Furthermore, had you read my post you would have seen that i have not bashed him nor do i think there is a better alternative or that he is worthless or that Betts is better. Simply explaining what the people who have been bashing him are looking for.

[Mackdaddydean]

Well, from one law student to a pre-law student, you fail to acknowledge that an ELEMENT to rushing the football is the blocking from the offensive line. Any idiot can look at a running back's numbers and declare him consistent or inconsistent. The blocking hasn't been there all year and it has a lot to do with the injuries to the right side of the OL. What makes me really mad is that the OL needed a pep talk this past week from Buges and JG in order to get their act together. We didn't make any changes on the OL or anything. They just decided to Man-Up this past weekend and just like magic, CP has almost 200 yards rushing. CP is always ready. When the OL (specifically Fabini & Wade) are ready to be physical then our rushing attack thrives. So how about we monitor the "Consistency" of the OL before we start calling for the head of CP who has proven many times that he can and will do his job when others do theirs.

Had you read the preface of my post, I personally have no problem with CP, just trying to give insight to where the haters are coming from. They won't apologize till him running like that becomes a constant thing. OL or no OL. People are ignorant of other factors, you know that. This has nothing to do with how IIII feel. just them. Anyway, read next time and you won't have to waste your breath on me. You can speak to them.

[Larry Gude]

Portis said he knew he needed to step up and put this team on his back

...you point out that CP himself said he needed to step up and then expect those who have been saying he hasn't been stepping up to take it back or apologize?

Where does that kind of thinking come from?

[jaltenhe]

im glad someone said it... those two yard runs on third down are starting to pile up...

[tone_dubbz]

So what do you all you haters have to say this week? It was apparent that with the line blocking better and finally giving Portis consistent rushing attempts he played the way we all know he can play. I think a lot of apologizes are in order. Not to mention last week Portis said he knew he needed to step up and put this team on his back and i think the coaches listened to him and gave him the opportunity. The only person out rushing him in the NFC is Peterson who actually leads the entire league in rushing. He also is tied for third in touchdowns with 6. So what do you all have to say now? :helmet:

*edit* I will concede that he does look like he doesnt have that 6th gear and break away speed that he has shown in the past. I do however think that its not gone, he just wasnt completely in game shape and maybe his knee has been bothering him.

Portis did great, and I think he has to hold himslef more accountable for his performance rather than fall back on excuses because of the injuries to the OLine. Portis was also running hard, not going down by just one defender.....which we haven't really seen all season long until the Jets game. I think we can put up another 100 yard rushing game on the eagles, especailly at home.

[DCranon21]

What a lot of people forget about CP is that when we are close to the endzone, he finds it. Before he was injured last season, he was scroing TDs(7 TD's before going on IR). He's always consistent in finding the endzone. So do we want 100+ yards every game? Is that what you call consistent? LT didn't rush for 100+ every game. What consistency means to me is running for 1000+ yards a season. Also he does have a 4.6 yards per carry career average. The only time he finished under 4.0 YPC was '04, his first year here(3.8 YPC after shutting it down after being injured).

[NoCalMike]

I dunno if the the holes Portis rushes through are just a little bit too narrow still or what, but I have seen plenty of his runs over the past few seasons, where it looks like he is going to break away, and then at the last second some lineman dives at his foot and trips him up right at the last second. I am not sure if Portis is not waiting until the guy is blocked completely or what...!?!

[shuler74]

I would like to see Portis break more tackles and be a little bit shifty maybe a change of pace when hitting the line. He tends to try to run over defenders. There is nothing wrong with finishing off a run by lowering your shoulder but he does not have that burst or elusiveness he use to he is trying to be more of a power back . I would like to see him combine both and be a little bit more patient . Walter payton did it best.. he run over you when you least expect it a run by you when you think he was going to lower his shoulder.

[Bryan81]

Portis goes as the OL goes. If they are up & playing hard then he does fine, when they have issues he has issues. Pretty simple.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

I still think Clinton is probably in the latter day Jamal Lewis portion of his career. I hope I am wrong.

[LoveDaSkins172645]

I think it's about time he finally got back to running like we are used to seeing him run, maybe now he won't think pre season is such a bad thing. I think based on that 50 million he is sitting on and it being 1/2 way through the season he needed to show us that he still has it.

[ramirez415]

Step 1 for this team to get serious in my mind is to go ahead and de-activate Lloyd for the rest of the season. Let him collect his paycheck at home, out of sight and definitely very much out of mind :)

Step 2 is to cruelly evaluate the talent and make some hard decisions on playing time.

We all know the coaches love James Thrash but he is just not a threat at WR at age 34.

:applause:

At age 34 or even 24 , he has never been a threat. Enough of this, McCardell should be playing more.

[pjfootballer]

Name the RB (Answer in black) that has rushing games of: 25, 43, 62, 67, 40, 132 and 198 this season. Has he been tremendously consistent?


A: Tomlinson.

Tomlinson?

[pjfootballer]

That's a spring chicken compared to the coaches! :)

And Scott Boonell!

[pjfootballer]

do your homework.

jets run defense is horrible, their line and LB are horrible against the line.

eagles rank 8th, we'll be seeing a lot less from CP this week.

if we had all our starters on the o-line we'd be having a great running game, but unfortunately thats not happening.

CP definately doesn't look 100% either.

i hope he gets 100% soon

We had 130 yards rushing against them in the last game and over 200 at Fed Ex at the end of last year. We can run on them.

[tenken627]

Yes, Portis racked up yards against a bad run defense, but other running backs have been racking up yards against bad run defenses too.

What's wrong with that?

Maybe Willie Parker needs to be taken down a notch since he ran well against crappy defenses like the Bengals, Browns, and Broncos, but had crappy games against decent run defenses like the Ravens.

[[[ghost]]]

Psh. Portis is soooo overrated...


Seriously. All Non-Homos on this board know that Gibbs should have died 5 years ago, Ladell Betts>>>Jesse Lumsden>>>>>>>Walter Payton+Barry Sanders, and that if a Defense doesn't outscore the opponent's offense by 45, it has failed.


</sarcasm>

[RedskinsSuperBowl21]

On Espn, Floyd Reese just ranked Portis number in his Top 5 while Mark Schlereth gave the spot to Brian Westbrook

[S.T.real,lights,out]

I think hes not showing his break away speed because he is afraid of fumbling the ball. Wait till he gets his confidence back.:helmet:

[taylorcoreskin]

Give CP an actual passing game and he'd be the best in the NFL.

[Master Blaster]

Cannot delete post, will leave it like this.

[Redskins4ever]

It was just a matter of time before the real Clinton Portis showed up.

[JaimeDeCurry]

It was just a matter of time before the real Clinton Portis showed up.

The real Clinton Portis was here all season; see the Miami game. It was just a matter of time before the real Dirtbags showed up.

[skinsfan07]

Him being able to make that big of a jump in one week means that he was running no worse than any other top backs this year....


it was just magnified because we were spoiled....


realistically he can not go over 100 yards again this season and still be a 1300 yard back 1 year removed from two crucial injuries.....on of them season ending....




To be 7th overall
behind a bum o line, after a slow start and only one 30 yard run thus far and having no real deep threat is great.....



For the redskins to still be 5-3 with all of that is even better....:applause:

:notworthy:notworthy I couldn't agrree more!

[SkinsFan48]

Exactly what he said. Show me some more. 2 weeks is not enough
What? What the Jets run defense ranked again? Listen, when I see consistancy ill change my mind. Right now, he showed me on Sunday his potential and how physical he can be. If he keeps it up, I have no problem changing my mind. But one game isnt going to change it yet.

[SkinsFan48]

I agree with you too thou.HTTR
:notworthy:notworthy I couldn't agrree more!

[G-Prime]

So what do you all you haters have to say this week? It was apparent that with the line blocking better and finally giving Portis consistent rushing attempts he played the way we all know he can play. I think a lot of apologizes are in order. Not to mention last week Portis said he knew he needed to step up and put this team on his back and i think the coaches listened to him and gave him the opportunity. The only person out rushing him in the NFC is Peterson who actually leads the entire league in rushing. He also is tied for third in touchdowns with 6. So what do you all have to say now? :helmet:

*edit* I will concede that he does look like he doesnt have that 6th gear and break away speed that he has shown in the past. I do however think that its not gone, he just wasnt completely in game shape and maybe his knee has been bothering him.


one game against a 1-8 team is what I say... When I see it in more then one game, then I'll say something different.

[G-Prime]

Give CP an actual passing game and he'd be the best in the NFL.

Definately agree.

[Zazzaro703]

We're talking about THIS season bro. Not him as a whole. Furthermore, had you read my post you would have seen that i have not bashed him nor do i think there is a better alternative or that he is worthless or that Betts is better. Simply explaining what the people who have been bashing him are looking for.

Well that stat does apply to this season so far. He is top 10 in rushing yards this year halfway thru the year.

[Zazzaro703]

Had you read the preface of my post, I personally have no problem with CP, just trying to give insight to where the haters are coming from. They won't apologize till him running like that becomes a constant thing. OL or no OL. People are ignorant of other factors, you know that. This has nothing to do with how IIII feel. just them. Anyway, read next time and you won't have to waste your breath on me. You can speak to them.

What do you mean O-line or no O-line. Its hard to gain yards when you are having to make moves in the backfield instead of looking for a whole or hitting it full speed. Or even worse yet, getting hit in the backfield before you even have a chance to do anything.

[Zazzaro703]

...you point out that CP himself said he needed to step up and then expect those who have been saying he hasn't been stepping up to take it back or apologize?

Where does that kind of thinking come from?

What is he supposed to say, i havent been playing as well as i can this season due to factors out of my control and throw his team under the bus? I think he made the statement to try and clue the coaches into the the fact that he needs the ball more and welcomes the challenge.

[kreitmaster]

I hope he's back, but the Jets are a bad team. Let's seem him run all over some quality defense.

[Deefense]

Stats arent everything.

Jets suck.

CP is injury prone.

We're 5-3, should be 7-1

We have some tough games coming up and if we dont play and COACH better...

We AINT DOING SQUAT this year!!!!!!!!!!!!!





are you all watching the same games that i am? i see a team that is barely winning that is lucky to be 5-3 with the bullcrap conservative coaching, and injuries. Yet we have the talent to be 7-1. you can say my glass is half empty, i dont give a s###. Until Gibbs turns this attrocious Offense around, im

:anon:

[chaaarmndr]

If he keeps scoring TDs I think he'll make Pro Bowl with Peterson and someone else. All the big name NFC running backs are either hurt or sucking...

Yeah that brandon jacobs sure is sucking..........

[scruffylookin]

Yeah that brandon jacobs sure is sucking..........

He said "big name" runningbacks and Jacobs isn't one of them.

[Mister Happy]

We're talking about THIS season bro. Not him as a whole. Furthermore, had you read my post you would have seen that i have not bashed him nor do i think there is a better alternative or that he is worthless or that Betts is better. Simply explaining what the people who have been bashing him are looking for.

And this season he is 2nd in the NFC and 7th in the NFL with 629 yards.

How should he have distributed those yards to make you satisfied? 8 79 yard games? 4 100 yard games and 4 57 yard games?

[InsaneBoost]

Not bad??????

[TMat184]

I'm sure its been touched on but admittedly I didn't read all 6 pages of this thread.....Alot of us level headed fans who were critical of CP know what hes done in the past and have saw what hes capable of. Now call it injury or o-line blocking or what have you, but Clinton Portis has been an elite back for, above all else, his rare combination of pure speed,acceleration, and power. This season, up until this week, hes been none of the aforementioned. I for one said hes still a young player that could turn it around but his overall season has been a disappointment. Heres to hoping his season is on the upswing cause he is the most vital player on this team :cheers: