View Full Version : Mexican flag hanging above American flag taken down by veteran
Cdowwe
November-6th-2007, 01:44 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x34ak2_mexican-flags_news
Some business owner decided to flag the Mexican flag above the American flag in Reno. A veteran takes matters into his own hands. I love how the Mexican business owner (I'm guessing its him in the video) backs down from the news guy when confronted.
rincewind
November-6th-2007, 01:48 PM
Vive la 2 month old news!!
Predicto
November-6th-2007, 01:53 PM
And viva the "call a tv crew in to film while you get all angry and then cut down someone else's property like a jackass" rather than politely explain the problem to the owner and ask him to fix it. You think that restaurant owner eve even heard of the Flag Code?
headexplode
November-6th-2007, 02:04 PM
"I'm a crazy redneck veteran and I fought for freedom, excepting, of course, the freedom that results in people doing things I don't like on their own property."
SkinInsite
November-6th-2007, 02:05 PM
This is sooooo not staged.
Destino
November-6th-2007, 02:11 PM
Got to love outrage so powerful that it has time to call the news crew and plan a good time to be there.
pez
November-6th-2007, 02:14 PM
"I'm a crazy redneck veteran and I fought for freedom, excepting, of course, the freedom that results in people doing things I don't like on their own property."
It is against the law to fly another country's flag over the USA flag.
It is also illegal to fly a dallas cowboy flag within Redskin country, so whenever you see one, go ahead and cut it down :D
Cdowwe
November-6th-2007, 02:14 PM
:laugh:
Sorry, didnt know it was old. Just found it online, and the search on this site sucks.
Cdowwe
November-6th-2007, 02:15 PM
"I'm a crazy redneck veteran and I fought for freedom, excepting, of course, the freedom that results in people doing things I don't like on their own property."
Yea, like pez said, its illegal.
G.A.C.O.L.B.
November-6th-2007, 02:16 PM
Yea, like pez said, its illegal.
Then call the police. This is a nation of laws isn't it?
BAFGA
November-6th-2007, 02:17 PM
It is against the law to fly another country's flag over the USA flag.
Is it a law or a suggested method of flying the flag? If it is a law, what are the punishments/fines if it is violated? I don't think cops are driving around looking to see if a flag is being flown wrong. At least I hope they aren't.
d0ublestr0ker0ll
November-6th-2007, 02:19 PM
He could have done some protesting without destroying property. But am I the only one that thinks the vet probably has some emotional memories of war? It's a flag code that, uhh, immigrants failed to give a **** about when they came over here. I say good for that guy, but easy on the property destruction.
headexplode
November-6th-2007, 02:21 PM
Got to love outrage so powerful that it has time to call the news crew and plan a good time to be there.
These people make me sick. Flag-ettiquette my balls. They're so outraged some hapless foreigner doesn't know the specifics of the absurdly baroque flag code, but don't seem to mind much when coroporations slap the flag's image and colors on every product they sell.
"This is our country---Buy Chevy--here's images of Martin Luther King and Rosa Parks--Buy Chevy----here's troops coming back from WWII----Buy Chevy-----here's a gas-guzzling pickup rolling over dozens of acres of our "amber waves of grain"-----Buy Chevy----
These ****ers have sold out our national heritage for millions and all this guy is worried about is one ****ty little Mexican bar. Yes, Goatman, that makes perfect ****ing sense. You're so big and tough, you have an Army knife, you're such a macho man.
headexplode
November-6th-2007, 02:24 PM
Yea, like pez said, its illegal.
It is against the law to fly another country's flag over the USA flag.
It is also illegal to fly a dallas cowboy flag within Redskin country, so whenever you see one, go ahead and cut it down :D
Yeah, I got that from the original posted video.
Let the cops deal with it, then.
Or don't go to that particular bar.
Or stage a peaceful demonstration outside.
This is jackboot thugism from a man who supposedly stands for freedom.
Where's the outrage from those folks about the hanging noose decorations?
Where's the respect for property now?
Predicto
November-6th-2007, 02:37 PM
How about just pointing out the problem to the guy rather than just assuming that he is trying to OFFEND THE USA AND SLAP OUR TROOPS IN THE FACE RAAAAAR!
Midnight Judges
November-6th-2007, 02:40 PM
Yea, like pez said, its illegal.
That's cool man.
BTW I saw you run a stop sign so I had no choice but to slash your tires-you know, to make sure you didn't disrespect our country again.
#98QBKiller
November-6th-2007, 02:48 PM
It is also illegal to fly a dallas cowboy flag within Redskin country, so whenever you see one, go ahead and cut it down :D
If I see one I will
:cheers:
_____
Cdowwe
November-6th-2007, 03:00 PM
That's cool man.
BTW I saw you run a stop sign so I had no choice but to slash your tires-you know, to make sure you didn't disrespect our country again.
Yea...exactly the same thing. I know it hurts your feelings when someone isnt allowed to disrespect our country...but deal with it.
Sarge
November-6th-2007, 03:03 PM
In the mid 80's, when I was stationed in England, I had a giant 4th of July party at the house some guys and I were renting. We had a giant American flag flying from the third floor. Someone complained and along came the bobbies. THey had been cool all day and most of the evening, but they took issue with the flag, because the law there is the same as it is here. So I showed them the litte Union Jack I had raised over the Star and Stripes. Everything was cool again. Differnece is, I actually took an interest in finding out the laws and codes for flying a foreign (American) flag in another country before I did it. This immigrant didn't.
Buford
November-6th-2007, 03:05 PM
In the mid 80's, when I was stationed in England, I had a giant 4th of July party at the house some guys and I were renting. We had a giant American flag flying from the third floor. Someone complained and along came the bobbies. THey had been cool all day and most of the evening, but they took issue with the flag, because the law there is the same as it is here. So I showed them the litte Union Jack I had raised over the Star and Stripes. Everything was cool again. Differnece is, I actually took an interest in finding out the laws and codes for flying a foreign (American) flag in another country before I did it. This immigrant didn't.
actually, the moral of the story should be. The Cops were called, and nobody took the law into their own hands.
The end.
rincewind
November-6th-2007, 03:05 PM
In the mid 80's, when I was stationed in England, I had a giant 4th of July party at the house some guys and I were renting. We had a giant American flag flying from the third floor. Someone complained and along came the bobbies. THey had been cool all day and most of the evening, but they took issue with the flag, because the law there is the same as it is here. So I showed them the litte Union Jack I had raised over the Star and Stripes. Everything was cool again. Differnece is, I actually took an interest in finding out the laws and codes for flying a foreign (American) flag in another country before I did it. This immigrant didn't.
Actually - that is only one difference. The other being that the Englishman called the cops instead of taking the laws into his own hands. I'm sure you just accidentlly glazed over that detail. ;)
Sarge
November-6th-2007, 03:11 PM
Actually - that is only one difference. The other being that the Englishman called the cops instead of taking the laws into his own hands. I'm sure you just accidentlly glazed over that detail. ;)
actually, the moral of the story should be. The Cops were called, and nobody took the law into their own hands.
The end.
Yep, that was nice of them, because Brits are nice like that. But had someone come over and cut it down, I probably would have considered it a lesson learned, beings how I was in England, in an English town and a English owned house
Now later that night, when we ran into some drunken Brits burning an American flag in the beer garden of the local, it was a different story
rincewind
November-6th-2007, 03:13 PM
Yep, that was nice of them, because Brits are nice like that. But had someone come over and cut it down, I probably would have considered it a lesson learned, beings how I was in England, in an English town and a English owned house
:bsflag:
No way in hell would you see someone cut down the American flag and throw it on the ground and just shrug 'lesson learned'.
chiefhogskin48
November-6th-2007, 03:14 PM
I dunno, I am sort of tired of the Mexican attitide of putting their "home" country ahead of the one they're living in now. If you're gonna come here, at least put this country first in your allegiances. I dare say that's rarely the case these days.
That being said, you can't go onto someone else's property and try to enforce your own beliefs...
DjTj
November-6th-2007, 03:18 PM
No way in hell would you see someone cut down the American flag and throw it on the ground and just shrug 'lesson learned'. :laugh: Yeah, this is how I picture Sarge after someone cuts down his American flag with a knife:
http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2006/11/scarface_million.jpg
Sarge
November-6th-2007, 03:19 PM
:bsflag:
No way in hell would you see someone cut down the American flag and throw it on the ground and just shrug 'lesson learned'.
Small chance of it happening to begin with, beings how we saved their asses from speaking German
Sarge
November-6th-2007, 03:19 PM
:laugh: Yeah, this is how I picture Sarge after someone cuts down his American flag with a knife:
http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2006/11/scarface_million.jpg
That's a ***** gun :laugh:
Buford
November-6th-2007, 03:23 PM
But, nobody did cut it down or burn it. Right?
They called the Cops and you showed them how you followed the law. Do nobody broke any laws. Correct?
isle-hawg
November-6th-2007, 04:12 PM
This thread reminds me of deja vu all over again:doh:
RyansRangers
November-6th-2007, 04:30 PM
This thread reminds me of deja vu all over again:doh:
its the exact same arguement as last time.
So as we are we are looking back i will say what I said then.
I would have cut it down myself if I saw it.
B.Lloyd
November-6th-2007, 07:19 PM
Good for him, that Mexican new exactly what was coming for him. And do you honestly think he "accidentally" put his flag above the US flag? About time someone made a stand against this bull****. This happens far too often and people just let it slide every ******* time.
#98QBKiller
November-6th-2007, 07:54 PM
I realize it's illegal but goddamn, this looks like another case of someone loving the symbol more than what it actually represents.
jpillian
November-6th-2007, 07:55 PM
1) Vet should have called the cops if it was illegal. His "taking action" was pretty dang lame. (And I'm pretty sure he had a friggin K-bar in his hand, which is of course a Marine knife).
2) Immigrant should love his new nation enough to respect its national symbols. He should take it as his new home and take pride in being American. If he is so fervent for his home country, then he is welcome to return there. We are a nation of immigrants, so I certainly bear him no will for being an immigrant. However, I'm always a bit amazed by the psychology of immigrants with such pride in their former country. If it's so frigging great, honestly, why are you here?
BAFGA
November-6th-2007, 08:14 PM
I question if the cops would have come out to begin with. If it escalated into a disorderly conduct call they might have, but those are low priority unless actual violence is involved. To me this ranks up there with a neighbor's tree limbs were hanging on my property and dropping acorns on my house.
Cops are for criminal offenses, not civil offenses. Call a lawyer and sue if you think the flag should be reversed.
G.A.C.O.L.B.
November-6th-2007, 08:26 PM
2) Immigrant should love his new nation enough to respect its national symbols. He should take it as his new home and take pride in being American. If he is so fervent for his home country, then he is welcome to return there. We are a nation of immigrants, so I certainly bear him no will for being an immigrant. However, I'm always a bit amazed by the psychology of immigrants with such pride in their former country. If it's so frigging great, honestly, why are you here?
I know right. **** St Patricks Day and the parade it rode in on.
ACW
November-6th-2007, 08:28 PM
I realize it's illegal but goddamn, this looks like another case of someone loving the symbol more than what it actually represents.QFT
jpillian
November-6th-2007, 08:32 PM
BTW -- I do think that it is a bit funny that the guy who tore down the US flag did the only thing "illegal" here. His treatment of the flag (wadding it up??) could possibly construed as desecration. Which, to my understanding the only thing illegal here. Enclosed is a link to Nevada's statue on flag desecration: http://www.leg.state.nv.us/nrs/NRS-201.html#NRS201Sec290
NRS 201.290 Penalty; exception.
1. Any person who, in any manner, for exhibition or display, puts or causes to be placed any inscription, design, device, symbol, portrait, name, advertisement, words, character, marks or notice, or sets or places any goods, wares and merchandise whatever upon any flag or ensign of the United States, or state flag of this State, or ensign, evidently purporting to be either of the flags or ensign, or who in any manner appends, annexes, or affixes to any such flag or ensign any inscription, design, device, symbol, portrait, name, advertisement, words, marks, notice or token whatever, or who displays or exhibits or causes to be displayed or exhibited any flag or ensign, evidently purporting to be either of the flags, upon which shall in any manner be put, attached, annexed or affixed any inscription, design, device, symbol, portrait, name, advertisement, words, marks, notice or token whatever, or who publicly or willfully mutilates, tramples upon, or who tears down or willfully and maliciously removes while owned by others, or defames, slanders, or speaks evilly or in a contemptuous manner of or otherwise defaces or defiles any of the flags, or ensign, which are public or private property, shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor.
2. This section shall not apply to flags or ensigns the property of or used in the service of the United States or of this State, upon which inscriptions, names of actions, words, marks or symbols are placed pursuant to law or authorized regulations.
[1911 C&P § 338; A 1919, 438; 1919 RL § 6603; NCL § 10286]
rincewind
November-6th-2007, 08:32 PM
I know right. **** St Patricks Day and the parade it rode in on.
Just leave the beer.
jpillian
November-6th-2007, 08:43 PM
I know right. **** St Patricks Day and the parade it rode in on.
Pride in heritage is a good thing. For first generation immigrants, it is certainly very understandable, and certainly common place throughout our nation's history.
However, becoming a citizen of the United States requires that you make an oath of allegiance to your new homeland. Making such an oath and then continuing to show that you are still primarily loyal to your original nation is dishonest at best.
http://www.us-immigration-attorney.com/citizenship.htm
Oath of Allegiance
To become a citizen, one must take the oath of allegiance. By doing so, an applicant swears to:
support the Constitution and obey the laws of the U.S.;
renounce any foreign allegiance and/or foreign title; and
bear arms for the Armed Forces of the U.S. or perform services for the government of the U.S. when required.
In certain instances, where the applicant establishes that he or she is opposed to any type of service in armed forces based on religious teaching or belief, USCIS will permit these applicants to take a modified oath.
The_cavalierman
November-6th-2007, 09:23 PM
That guy was an idiot...
Instead of taking the law into his own hands like a complete moron he could have done the following:
1. Informed the person of the law
2. Called the police (which was the legal thing to do)
This veteran was just a hot-head seeking 15 minutes of fame which he got unfortunately. I am a combat veteran and I love America but I do not break the law in order to enforce the law.
The guy was an idiot
Raub
November-6th-2007, 10:03 PM
If they love the US enough to move here and make it their home, they should care enough to obey the law, no matter how antiquated some might think it is.
I always laugh when I see an immigration rally on TV and there are thousands of people waving Mexican flags. Umm...you're trying to make a statement that you belong in this country.....maybe you should be waving that country's flag? If you have so much pride in Mexico that you want to wave the flag at a protest....then maybe you should go home to that country and fix what's wrong with it.
Having said all that....the guy was wrong for cutting it down, there was surely a better way to handle it.
DjTj
November-6th-2007, 10:50 PM
2) Immigrant should love his new nation enough to respect its national symbols. He should take it as his new home and take pride in being American. If he is so fervent for his home country, then he is welcome to return there. We are a nation of immigrants, so I certainly bear him no will for being an immigrant. However, I'm always a bit amazed by the psychology of immigrants with such pride in their former country. If it's so frigging great, honestly, why are you here?I think the reality is that a lot of immigrants, and probably most immigrants, ended up in America kind of accidentally.
My parents had no intention of staying in the U.S., but school took a little longer than it was supposed to, they had kids, got jobs, and decided to stay. Since their kids grew up as American citizens speaking English, they decided to get their citizenship too. They're still more interested in the politics back in their home country than they are in the politics here.
Some immigrants flee their home country for political reasons and really leave it behind, but the vast majority come for economic reasons, and patriotism doesn't really factor in. When the Irish came to America in huge numbers, it wasn't because they wanted to embrace American government; they ran out of potatoes. Mexicans aren't renouncing Mexico when they cross the border; they're coming for the good-paying jobs.
These immigrants may plan to go back to their home countries after making enough money or once conditions improve, but the way that life goes, they meet a spouse, they make new friends, they put down roots, and most of them end up staying. Immigrants don't usually reach a dramatic moment when they give up their previous country and choose America ... things just kind of happen.
It's like Redskins fans that grow up in the DC area but move to Texas. You didn't leave the DC area because you hated it, and maybe you have every intention of moving back someday, but because of your job or your education or your family, you ended up in Texas. You got a Texas driver's license and pay taxes to the Texas treasury. That doesn't mean you start rooting for the Cowboys; you'll always root for the Redskins because that was how you grew up.
Teller
November-6th-2007, 10:54 PM
I know right. **** St Patricks Day and the parade it rode in on.
These look the same to you, don't they? :laugh:
http://www.pmptoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/apple-orange-iphone-france.JPG
DjTj
November-6th-2007, 11:07 PM
These look the same to you, don't they? :laugh:I think his point is that these look the same:
http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny/images/units/photo/galleries/2007/031907a/stpatricks1.jpg
http://www.sjgif.org/images/cincodemayo.jpg
...and in my previous post I tried to explain how the relationship between immigration and patriotism isn't really that different today than many generations ago.
Teller
November-6th-2007, 11:21 PM
I think his point is that these look the same:
http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny/images/units/photo/galleries/2007/031907a/stpatricks1.jpg
Yeah, you're right, I'm sorry. BTW, which ones are the illegals in that picture? :D
DjTj
November-6th-2007, 11:23 PM
Yeah, you're right, I'm sorry. BTW, which ones are the illegals in that picture? :DNone of them. There are no illegals in the other picture either. ;)
Teller
November-6th-2007, 11:26 PM
None of them. There are no illegals in the other picture either. ;)
I'm sure.
DjTj
November-6th-2007, 11:33 PM
I'm sure.Well, if you can identify everyone in the St. Patrick's Day picture and find their immigration status, I'll identify everyone in the immigration rally picture and find their immigration status. :D
Besides, the topic wasn't really immigration status; jpillian was asking why immigrants retain pride in their original country of origin. I think the answer for Hispanic immigrants today is the same as it was for the Irish a century ago - they didn't leave their home country for political or patriotic reasons; they left for economic reasons, so they remain loyal to Ireland or Mexico.
Teller
November-7th-2007, 12:04 AM
Well, if you can identify everyone in the St. Patrick's Day picture and find their immigration status, I'll identify everyone in the immigration rally picture and find their immigration status. :D
Ann Coulter was right about one thing. You should only talk to a liberal if you absolutely have to.
Besides, the topic wasn't really immigration status; jpillian was asking why immigrants retain pride in their original country of origin. I think the answer for Hispanic immigrants today is the same as it was for the Irish a century ago - they didn't leave their home country for political or patriotic reasons; they left for economic reasons, so they remain loyal to Ireland or Mexico.
Maybe I'm the fool here, but I see a difference between a bunch of American citizens expressing pride in their ancestry, and a bunch of illegal aliens demanding ANYTHING from a country they have no right to be in in the first place.
DjTj
November-7th-2007, 12:30 AM
Maybe I'm the fool here, but I see a difference between a bunch of American citizens expressing pride in their ancestry, and a bunch of illegal aliens demanding ANYTHING from a country they have no right to be in in the first place.I don't know if you have read any of this thread, but it is about flags and patriotism; not immigrant rights.
Sorry my photo set off your anti-illegal radar, but I was just trying to think of a parade with Mexican flags, and I first thought of the immigration rallies. I guess I should have used a photo from a Cinco de Mayo parade instead:
http://www.sjgif.org/images/cincodemayo.jpg
So, please look at that picture, which is more of an apples to apples (or at least potatoes to avocados) comparison with St. Patrick's Day, and hopefully you'll be able to understand my point that Mexican-Americans continue to fly Mexican flags for the same reasons that Irish-Americans fly Irish flags.
P.S. Don't be so sure that all those Irish immigrants are legal ... http://www.nysun.com/article/28835
G.A.C.O.L.B.
November-7th-2007, 12:30 AM
H_H, like DjTj said, I wasn't commenting on anyones legal status or anyones demands. The business owner in the OP video wasn't flying the Mexican flag to demand rights for his sorry illegal ass (where it's doubtful that he was illegal.) No, I was commenting on dudes comment about people showing pride in their country of origin, regardless of the circumstances.
Now this is just one three-month period (Mar., Apr., May) in one large area in the US (NYC.) http://www.carnaval.com/newyork/parades/spring/#March
The Greeks (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B0DEED81E3FF934A15750C0A9619482 60)
http://www.dkimages.com/discover/previews/777/139915.JPG
The Cubans (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940CE2DB1338F93BA35756C0A9669C8B 63&n=Top/Reference/Times%20Topics/People/L/Lipton,%20Eric)
http://www.citizenbay.com/media/jpg/wyPCKoHSSThPU7EJvLRAIoWBebHQCRHz_800x600.jpg
The Norweigens (http://www.norway.org/culture/heritage/17th+of+May+in+New+York.htm)
http://www.norway.org/NR/rdonlyres/873E6FC9-1AD3-4326-AFDE-A8FC94BF5EF4/25382/17Mai2.jpg
The Hatians (http://www.akolad.com/news/2006_CT_Haitian_American_Day_Parade_press.php)
http://www.heritagekonpa.com/images/sFlag%20Day%20Picture%20march.jpg
The Israelis (http://www.sfmission.com/cgi-bin/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=New_York/Annual_Events/Spring&image=saluteisrael.jpg&img=&tt=)
http://www.salutetoisrael.com/Salute-to-IsraelRoot/editor_photos/parade2004.jpg
The Turks (http://www.theturkishtimes.com/archive/02/06_01/ftaa.html)
http://usa.azeris.org/images/TurkishDayParade2006.jpg
and of course
My Irish (http://www.saintpatricksdayparade.com/NYC/newyorkcity.htm)
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z307/Colin1983/425468418_428587ab37.jpg
Teller
November-7th-2007, 12:39 AM
H_H, like DjTj said, I wasn't commenting on anyones legal status or anyones demands. The business owner in the OP video wasn't flying the Mexican flag to demand rights for his sorry illegal ass (where it's doubtful that he was illegal.) No, I was commenting on dudes comment about people showing pride in their country of origin, regardless of the circumstances.
I have no problem with citizens showing pride in their country of origin; or even legal alines showing pride in their country of origin. But when illegals hold rallies or marches, you know as well as I do that that's not what they're doing. That's all.
I understand your point though.
Dan T.
November-7th-2007, 07:12 AM
That SAME guy cut down a Mexican flag from a restaurant about 3 months ago. Weird.
Lombardi's_kid_brother
November-7th-2007, 05:38 PM
I just realized that I have no idea where my Italian flag is.
Lombardi's_kid_brother
November-7th-2007, 05:42 PM
So I finally read the flag code...and I think every redneck I know with a boat is breaking the law. But that is neither here nor there.
There is no punishment for breaking the flag code. So the police say...stop...and I say...fine me....and they can't. And this just goes on for hours?
Predicto
November-7th-2007, 06:13 PM
So I finally read the flag code...and I think every redneck I know with a boat is breaking the law. But that is neither here nor there.
That is precisely here and there.
The fact is, people here are ASSUMING that this restaurant owner wanted to be offensive to the USA and Apple Pie and that he got what he deserved and he should have gotten punched in the nose and that he is an illegal immigrant, etc.
Meanwhile, the exact same people will assume that the redneck with the boat is just a patriotic American who deserves the benefit of the doubt in HIS ignorance of the flag code.
Look at the postings in this thread, and see if you can guess who I am talking about. Then go to any other thread about immigration, and see if you see the same sort of in depth thought. :silly:
cjcdaman
November-7th-2007, 06:57 PM
and I think every redneck I know with a boat is breaking the law.
Maybe you could explain your reasoning for this statement. Do you consider anyone who owns a boat to be a redneck? Just curious as to why you chose to use that word.
rincewind
November-7th-2007, 08:14 PM
Maybe you could explain your reasoning for this statement. Do you consider anyone who owns a boat to be a redneck? Just curious as to why you chose to use that word.
Reading comp 101 - he said ''every redneck I know with a boat..." You are implying that he said "every one who owns a boat is a redneck."
Not sure how you got that, but there it is...
Plus, he knows them and you don't. So I would say he is more qualified to speak of their redneckness than you. ;)
cjcdaman
November-7th-2007, 08:18 PM
Reading comp 101 - he said ''every redneck I know with a boat..." You are implying that he said "every one who owns a boat is a redneck."
Not sure how you got that, but there it is...
Plus, he knows them and you don't. So I would say he is more qualified to speak of their redneckness than you. ;)
:laugh: I'd still like to know his reasoning.
Lombardi's_kid_brother
November-9th-2007, 01:02 PM
I'm from West Virginia orginally. I know from rednecks and from boats.
thelongestbreath
November-9th-2007, 01:41 PM
To a certain extent I was semi-satisfied at the fact they had an American flag hanging, even though it was in improper order. I'm so tired of the people with their stupid car decals representing their country of origin(all country's colors not just of latin decent) yet have no representation of the country they belong to. If your country was so grand that you wont represent the country that was obviously better that you left yours....GO HOME! Get out of this country and rebuild yours. I have no problem for anyone that wants to come here*LEGALLY* and make a better life for them, but do not come to my country and fly the colors of a country that wasn't good enough to stay in without representing the place you belong to.
MonkeySkin
November-9th-2007, 01:49 PM
Sorry, but this is America, not Mexico.
I heard an interview with the guy who cut it down, and it wasn't staged or anything like that. Yeah he knew the media was there and wanted to get a point across that there are still patriots in this country who aren't going to stand for what the government is allowing to happen in this country.
rincewind
November-9th-2007, 01:50 PM
Sorry, but this is America, not Mexico.
I heard an interview with the guy who cut it down, and it wasn't staged or anything like that. Yeah he knew the media was there and wanted to get a point across that there are still patriots in this country who aren't going to stand for what the government is allowing to happen in this country.
Patriot. Insane redneck.
Tomato. Tamahto.
MonkeySkin
November-9th-2007, 01:54 PM
Patriot. Insane redneck.
Tomato. Tamahto.
Just like one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter :D
Henry
November-9th-2007, 02:17 PM
Sorry, but this is America, not Mexico.
Hey, it's heritage, not hate. ;)
Predicto
November-9th-2007, 02:28 PM
I heard an interview with the guy who cut it down, and it wasn't staged or anything like that. Yeah he knew the media was there and wanted to get a point across that there are still patriots in this country who aren't going to stand for what the government is allowing to happen in this country.
Isn't that the definition of "staged"?
MonkeySkin
November-9th-2007, 02:34 PM
Isn't that the definition of "staged"?
I was more thinking along the lines of that FEMA press conference :D
Dan T.
November-9th-2007, 02:35 PM
The Mexican restaurant owner should act like a TRUE American - by suing the guy who cut down his flag.
MonkeySkin
November-9th-2007, 02:37 PM
The Mexican restaurant owner should act like a TRUE American - by suing the guy who cut down his flag.
Maybe he didn't want to because he's illegal :D
Sarge
November-9th-2007, 05:30 PM
So has anyone checked his green card?
Predicto
November-9th-2007, 05:41 PM
So has anyone checked his green card?
Why bother? I think he was a genuine angry jerk of a Veteran. :)
The_cavalierman
November-9th-2007, 05:49 PM
Being a veteran is not an excuse to break the law.
He just wanted 15 minutes of fame which he got unfortunately.
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