Whitlock: Reid getting a pass from the media

[bubba9497]

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Reid getting a pass from the media

Jason Whitlock / FOXSports.com


An absentee father, a mother at home with five kids, two boys with guns and drugs scattered throughout the house and a cranky, mouthy judge at sentencing time.

You've heard this ghetto tale a thousand times. Only this time, we're not talking about boyz 'n the hood or menaces II society, and it didn't transpire in sugar hill or some new jack city.

We're talking about an American Wanksta: The life and times of Andy Reid's boyz.

What's interesting and enlightening is examining the fallout and reaction to the Reid's family crisis. As best as I can tell, there's a lot of compassion and understanding coming from the mainstream media and a lot of judicial/investigative restraint being exercised by the courts and the police.

For the most part, everyone is conducting themselves in the proper fashion.

Britt Reid, a drug addict who pulled a gun on a motorist, was sentenced to 8-23 months and can apply for a special drug-counseling program in five months. Garrett Reid, a drug addict and dealer, was sentenced to 2-23 months and will apply for a special drug-counseling program.

Before I go further, let me repeat that the authorities have treated the Reids appropriately, including the judge who put the Reids on blast, comparing their home to a "drug emporium."

But I do want to spell out how this would have been handled differently by the authorities and interpreted differently by the media and the public had this been your typical ghetto tale involving poor black, brown or white people or black and brown people of any income level.

No one — and I mean no one — would believe these boys could be using, dealing and housing drugs and guns without the knowledge of their parents. I don't care how big the house is, parents know what's going on. My mother could be dead asleep in her bedroom, worn out from working overtime, and tell me exactly what I was doing in the living room.

Only the uninformed, butt-kissing media members or delusional Eagles fans believe any of this transpired without Andy and Tammy Reid knowing. The judge didn't buy it. That's why he was critical. I credit the judge for talking to the Reids the same way he would D'Angelo Barksdale's mama, Brianna (the final season of The Wire starts in January).

If this was a ghetto tale, police would look at Tammy Reid the same as Brianna Barksdale, as a silent co-conspirator or possible user. Garrett Reid would have to squeal on his suppliers or participate in a sting. He certainly wouldn't be viewed as salvageable. He'd be seen as a tool to make a bigger case.

Garrett Reid's admittance that he's a drug dealer and the fact that large quantities of drugs and weapons were found at the Reid home would make their house subject to seizure by the state. The Reids would be targets, not victims.

But let me tell you what's most troubling about all of this: Andy Reid's cowardice and the fact that we're letting him get away with it.

We, the media, particularly black members of the media, are always crying when athletes won't speak out on important issues. We want 22-year-old LeBron James to have a position on Darfur, a place he's probably never been. We scolded Michael Jordan for not having a social conscience. We're mad Tiger Woods won't lend his name to the plight of six black cowards who stomped and kicked one white boy in Louisiana.

But white sports figures aren't required to have a social conscience. They can satisfy themselves chasing supermodels and filming cute commercials.

America's morally bankrupt war on drugs, a cause that has killed and destroyed more lives than Vietnam and Iraq combined, has finally put Andy Reid's kids on the front lines (incarceration), and Andy Reid doesn't have a damn meaningful thing to say about it.

That's unacceptable. It's cowardly.

[reggie_brown86]

This article is just outrageous. How does this clown manage to bring race into an issue that has nothing to do with race?

His points are wrong too. The media has been killing Andy Reid relentlessly. They really need to back off, and let him deal with his family issues.

I hope Jason Whitlocks kids die from a heroin overdose, and then everybody can blame him.

[tr1]

This article is absolutely correct.

Andy's status in our society got him this pass. For anyone else, the parents would certainly receive part of the blame.

[bubba9497]

I hope Jason Whitlocks kids die from a heroin overdose,



classy

[DWinzit]

This article is just outrageous. How does this clown manage to bring race into an issue that has nothing to do with race?

His points are wrong too. The media has been killing Andy Reid relentlessly. They really need to back off, and let him deal with his family issues.

I hope Jason Whitlocks kids die from a heroin overdose, and then everybody can blame him.This is not the first time Whitlock has thrown race into his rants. There have been times when I have completely disagreed with him but this time he is spot on!

I find it hard to believe Reid is continuing to work and play absentee parent with younger chidlren still in the house. All of these events should have had him reevaluate his life style.

Your statement regarding Whitlock's kids is atrocious!:doh:

[Goaldeje]

This article is just outrageous. How does this clown manage to bring race into an issue that has nothing to do with race?

His points are wrong too. The media has been killing Andy Reid relentlessly. They really need to back off, and let him deal with his family issues.

I hope Jason Whitlocks kids die from a heroin overdose, and then everybody can blame him.


Gimme a break. Whitlock is known for bringing race into arguments all the time.

And nice statement about his kids. I guess you can't expect much else from Iggles fans. :doh:

[Larry Brown #43]

I agree with Whitlock. I honestly don't see how Reid is skating free on this, considering the drugs were found in HIS house. I don't care who they belonged to, they were in HIS house. Remember how everyone slammed Michael Irvin for claiming the junk found in his car belonged to a friend? How is this different?

And there was A LOT more junk found in Reid's home than in Irvin's car. I'm not trying to be an Irvin apologist here, I'm just calling a spade a spade.

[#1njskinsfan]

Gimme a break. Whitlock is known for bringing race into arguments all the time.

And nice statement about his kids. I guess you can't expect much else from Iggles fans. :doh:


i agree on both counts!

[jpgirth]

Wow....some light at the end of the tunnel.

This is dead on.

[reggie_brown86]

Nobody knows what goes on in the Reid household, except the Reids themselves. Unless you know live in that home you do not know all the facts.

If you do not know all the facts, then STFU about Andy Reid's family. Nobody has a right to question Andy Reid as a father. This racist fathead Jason Whitlock definitely has no right to do so.

There is no race involved in this case! If there was any favoritism,(which there was not!) it would be because of the color green. Not black, and white. People who make racial issues where they do not apply are clearly just racist themselves, and trying to create controversy.

I truly do hope Whitlock's kids die from a heroin overdose. So then he can feel what it is like to have kids on drugs, and have everybody blame you for it.

Andy is not responsible for another adult's crimes. You can get in trouble for having drugs in your home, but his kids admitted to possessing them. If the kids had played stupid they could have arrested Andy Reid, but they did not. The kids took the blame, so Andy Reid is not being charged with anything.

Either show your support for a man dealing with a family crisis or shut your mouth.

[Larry Brown #43]

Andy is not responsible for another adult's crimes. You can get in trouble for having drugs in your home, but his kids admitted to possessing them.
This is truly the crux of the matter, and this is where I believe you're dead wrong. He IS responsible for the contents of HIS home. If illegal drugs (and in this case, TONS of them) are found in HIS home, he IS responsible. This is not about whether he's a good father. I couldn't care less what type of father he is. But he IS responsible for the contents of his home, just as I am responsible for the contents of my home.

[SkinsHokieFan]

I truly do hope Whitlock's kids die from a heroin overdose. So then he can feel what it is like to have kids on drugs, and have everybody blame you for it.


Thats a real sick thing to wish upon anyone. My bestfriend passed away from a heroin OD in December of 2004, it is the absolute worst thing for any family to go through

And knowing the expieirence my friend and his family went through, I am not stunned that the Reid's did NOT know what the kids were up to, drugs wise

Andy is an NFL head coach, busy job already, Apparently there are 5 kids, and its probably a big house. Mama Reid is tending to the younger ones while the 2 older knuckleheads become addicts, and when you do that you become a liar. You hide things and become very very good at hiding things. You lie to those people who have your best interest at heart

Hiding guns and pills isn't the hardest thing in the world to do, and I bet its easier in a large house. Now do I think Reid needs to leave the Iggles and get his house in order? Yes. Do I think he shares some blame? Of course

But Whitlock's article is quite frankly absurd

[jpgirth]

Nobody knows what goes on in the Reid household, except the Reids themselves. Unless you know live in that home you do not know all the facts.

If you do not know all the facts, then STFU about Andy Reid's family. Nobody has a right to question Andy Reid as a father. This racist fathead Jason Whitlock definitely has no right to do so.

There is no race involved in this case! If there was any favoritism,(which there was not!) it would be because of the color green. Not black, and white. People who make racial issues where they do not apply are clearly just racist themselves, and trying to create controversy.

I truly do hope Whitlock's kids die from a heroin overdose. So then he can feel what it is like to have kids on drugs, and have everybody blame you for it.

Andy is not responsible for another adult's crimes. You can get in trouble for having drugs in your home, but his kids admitted to possessing them. If the kids had played stupid they could have arrested Andy Reid, but they did not. The kids took the blame, so Andy Reid is not being charged with anything.

Either show your support for a man dealing with a family crisis or shut your mouth.
Wow....you are clueless.

I guess the judge didn't have the FACTS in front of him.... :rolleyes:
The judge lambasted the Reid's home as a drug emporium.
The judge wonders aloud when the kids said the parents knew nothing.

The judge released Andy's kids to him and his wife under house arrest. NOW
you are responsible....and what happens illegal drugs were found again..the
judge states that the Reid's home is unfit for drug addicts.

Oh and by the way....Whitlock is dead on.

Who you should be supporting is the victims....like everyone these kids have victimized.

Oh, that's right their adults...still living under Mommy and Daddy's roof where they have the security that they can still participate in the drug dealing and
drug using habits they have had for 5+years.

The guns/drugs were found in ANDY REID's VEHICLES AND HOUSE...NUMEROUS
TIMES.

That's ok the TAXPAYERS WILL FOOT THE BILL NOW.

You need to STFU.

[jpgirth]

Thats a real sick thing to wish upon anyone. My bestfriend passed away from a heroin OD in December of 2004, it is the absolute worst thing for any family to go through

And knowing the expieirence my friend and his family went through, I am not stunned that the Reid's did NOT know what the kids were up to, drugs wise

Andy is an NFL head coach, busy job already, Apparently there are 5 kids, and its probably a big house. Mama Reid is tending to the younger ones while the 2 older knuckleheads become addicts, and when you do that you become a liar. You hide things and become very very good at hiding things. You lie to those people who have your best interest at heart

Hiding guns and pills isn't the hardest thing in the world to do, and I bet its easier in a large house. Now do I think Reid needs to leave the Iggles and get his house in order? Yes. Do I think he shares some blame? Of course

But Whitlock's article is quite frankly absurd

Whitlocks point is clear and he is dead on.....The judge stated they are drugs and guns all over the house, the judge lambasted the kids and the family. The judge who deals with this crap daily wondered aloud about the family not knowing.....it sounds as if the Reid's were protecting the kids....they were running a "drug emporium."

Whether you want to believe it or not....there is a double standard, it's reality.

If this is on t.v., with a family in Southeast D.C....... :rolleyes:

[jpgirth]

I agree with Whitlock. I honestly don't see how Reid is skating free on this, considering the drugs were found in HIS house. I don't care who they belonged to, they were in HIS house. Remember how everyone slammed Michael Irvin for claiming the junk found in his car belonged to a friend? How is this different?

And there was A LOT more junk found in Reid's home than in Irvin's car. I'm not trying to be an Irvin apologist here, I'm just calling a spade a spade.

Dead on...the next player will have the "NOT MINE" alibi.

[reggie_brown86]

Wow....you are clueless.

I guess the judge didn't have the FACTS in front of him.... :rolleyes:
The judge lambasted the Reid's home as a drug emporium.
The judge wonders aloud when the kids said the parents knew nothing.

The judge released Andy's kids to him and his wife under house arrest. NOW
you are responsible....and what happens illegal drugs were found again..the
judge states that the Reid's home is unfit for drug addicts.

Oh and by the way....Whitlock is dead on.

Who you should be supporting is the victims....like everyone these kids have victimized.

Oh, that's right their adults...still living under Mommy and Daddy's roof where they have the security that they can still participate in the drug dealing and
drug using habits they have had for 5+years.

The guns/drugs were found in ANDY REID's VEHICLES AND HOUSE.

That's ok the TAXPAYERS WILL FOOT THE BILL NOW.

You need to STFU.

Please get AIDS.

The judge was out of line, and was just grandstanding. He wanted to get his name in the news, and used a high profile case to do so.

The judge did not speak on how Andy Reid has been trying to get his kids help for years now. He has repeatedly sent them to rehabs, and treatment programs. With his own money! Andy Reid despite being publicly embarrassed numerous times by these kids has stuck by their side because he loves them.

ANDY REID IS A VICTIM HERE! He has to deal with a family member who is addicted to drugs! It hurts the entire Reid family.

Reid is a great man, and he is not running any drug operation. These kids hid the drugs! Is Andy supposed to search his mansion every day to find drugs?

The one kid managed to smuggle pills into prison, and you think Andy could find drugs hidden in his huge home?

What else could Andy do? Handcuff the kids to the radiator? They are grown Adults. They will only get help, if they want it. They obviously do not want it, and that is why they are in jail.

I really hope all of you who bash another mans family have clean closets. You think you are perfect parents? Your kids could end up on drugs too. No matter how good of a parent you are, kids eventually have to make decisions on their own.

It can happen to anybody, and it will hopefully happen to you.

Karma will come back to you. Keep kicking somebody when they are down, and you will see who is there to pick you up when you have troubles.

[slogriff]

What else could Andy do? Handcuff the kids to the radiator? They are grown Adults. They will only get help, if they want it. They obviously do not want it, and that is why they are in jail.



What else could he do? Kick them out of his house.

They will only get help, if they want it. Exactly. Addicts will likely only get help when there is no other option. Enabling these two men to stay in your home w/o their person and belongings being searched was only enabling them to continue their illicit ways.

Sounds like this has been an ongoing issue that Reid has tried to address with his adult children. However, he has 3 other children <18yrs at home. He has an obligation to keep the "lifestyle" of the older children away from the younger kids. I don't know the particulars of the situation but it sounds like a little "tougher love" is needed to save his older sons and prevent the younger kids from following the same path.

[Popeman38]

This article is just outrageous. How does this clown manage to bring race into an issue that has nothing to do with race?

His points are wrong too. The media has been killing Andy Reid relentlessly. They really need to back off, and let him deal with his family issues.

I hope Jason Whitlocks kids die from a heroin overdose, and then everybody can blame him.

Nobody knows what goes on in the Reid household, except the Reids themselves. Unless you know live in that home you do not know all the facts.

If you do not know all the facts, then STFU about Andy Reid's family. Nobody has a right to question Andy Reid as a father. This racist fathead Jason Whitlock definitely has no right to do so.

There is no race involved in this case! If there was any favoritism,(which there was not!) it would be because of the color green. Not black, and white. People who make racial issues where they do not apply are clearly just racist themselves, and trying to create controversy.

I truly do hope Whitlock's kids die from a heroin overdose. So then he can feel what it is like to have kids on drugs, and have everybody blame you for it.

Andy is not responsible for another adult's crimes. You can get in trouble for having drugs in your home, but his kids admitted to possessing them. If the kids had played stupid they could have arrested Andy Reid, but they did not. The kids took the blame, so Andy Reid is not being charged with anything.

Either show your support for a man dealing with a family crisis or shut your mouth.

Please get AIDS.

The judge was out of line, and was just grandstanding. He wanted to get his name in the news, and used a high profile case to do so.

The judge did not speak on how Andy Reid has been trying to get his kids help for years now. He has repeatedly sent them to rehabs, and treatment programs. With his own money! Andy Reid despite being publicly embarrassed numerous times by these kids has stuck by their side because he loves them.

ANDY REID IS A VICTIM HERE! He has to deal with a family member who is addicted to drugs! It hurts the entire Reid family.

Reid is a great man, and he is not running any drug operation. These kids hid the drugs! Is Andy supposed to search his mansion every day to find drugs?

The one kid managed to smuggle pills into prison, and you think Andy could find drugs hidden in his huge home?

What else could Andy do? Handcuff the kids to the radiator? They are grown Adults. They will only get help, if they want it. They obviously do not want it, and that is why they are in jail.

I really hope all of you who bash another mans family have clean closets. You think you are perfect parents? Your kids could end up on drugs too. No matter how good of a parent you are, kids eventually have to make decisions on their own.

It can happen to anybody, and it will hopefully happen to you.

Karma will come back to you. Keep kicking somebody when they are down, and you will see who is there to pick you up when you have troubles.

Please, go back to the 700 level and post your drivel there. This board has respect for fellow posters and also has class. You, obviously, don't subscribe to either.

[Isifhan]

Please get AIDS.

Not a good idea. At all. Treat members of the board with respect or get off the board.

[reggie_brown86]

Please, go back to the 700 level and post your drivel there. This board has respect for fellow posters and also has class. You, obviously, don't subscribe to either.

Show some respect to Andy Reid's family! Criticize him as a football coach, GM, or even his weight all you want. People need to leave his family ALONE!

The scum media loves stories like this. They feed off others misery to get ratings. Now everybody wants to chip in their :2cents: about what Andy Reid should do with his own family. It is his family, and he deserves the privacy of dealing with these issues however he wants.

Stupid articles like this one just make the issue worse. Whether you hate the Eagles or not, you should feel bad for this man. You should show support to a good man in a time of trouble.

Only scum would continually broadcast this as a "story". How can anybody rip somebody's personal life, when they clearly do not know all the facts. That is low class, and despicable.

[Popeman38]

Show some respect to Andy Reid's family! Criticize him as a football coach, GM, or even his weight all you want. People need to leave his family ALONE!

The scum media loves stories like this. They feed off others misery to get ratings. Now everybody wants to chip in their :2cents: about what Andy Reid should do with his own family. It is his family, and he deserves the privacy of dealing with these issues however he wants.

Stupid articles like this one just make the issue worse. Whether you hate the Eagles or not, you should feel bad for this man. You should show support to a good man in a time of trouble.

Only scum would continually broadcast this as a "story". How can anybody rip somebody's personal life, when they clearly do not know all the facts. That is low class, and despicable.Take off the green glasses man. If this story involved Wade Phillips, you would be all about trashing the man. Hell, you wished aids on a poster and death by heroin to Whitlock's kids. You are the last person on earth to be posting about low class. When one takes a position of notoriety, all that comes with the notoriety is accepted. This involves scrutiny of your private life. When the same story happens to CEOs of companies, they get canned for bringing negative press to the brand.

[jpgirth]

[QUOTE=reggie_brown86]Please get AIDS.

:doh:

[bubba9497]

Please get AIDS.


RB86 stop the insults and discuss the topic like an adult

[doncherry]

This article is just outrageous. How does this clown manage to bring race into an issue that has nothing to do with race?

His points are wrong too. The media has been killing Andy Reid relentlessly. They really need to back off, and let him deal with his family issues.

I hope Jason Whitlocks kids die from a heroin overdose, and then everybody can blame him.

read the article again, he is saying that Reid is getting a free pass due to STATUS, he also mentions that a poor white family, in the same situation, would be treated differently....

[iheartskins]

RB86's situation has been addressed.

[KingGibbs]

This article is just outrageous. How does this clown manage to bring race into an issue that has nothing to do with race?

[His points are wrong too. The media has been killing Andy Reid relentlessly. They really need to back off, and let him deal with his family issues.

I hope Jason Whitlocks kids die from a heroin overdose, and then everybody can blame him.

Get that green **** outta here.

Anyway, considering he's coaching in a city full of bigots doesn't leave me surprised that he isn't feeling more heat.

[CAMPBELL2MOSS4SIX]

RB86 stop the insults and discuss the topic like an adult

You havent NNTed him yet Bubba9497!!!!!!!

[Thanos]

Reid does need to take leave from the team and straight out that family situation somewhat.

[HSW]

Thats a real sick thing to wish upon anyone. My bestfriend passed away from a heroin OD in December of 2004, it is the absolute worst thing for any family to go through

And knowing the expieirence my friend and his family went through, I am not stunned that the Reid's did NOT know what the kids were up to, drugs wise

Andy is an NFL head coach, busy job already, Apparently there are 5 kids, and its probably a big house. Mama Reid is tending to the younger ones while the 2 older knuckleheads become addicts, and when you do that you become a liar. You hide things and become very very good at hiding things. You lie to those people who have your best interest at heart

Hiding guns and pills isn't the hardest thing in the world to do, and I bet its easier in a large house. Now do I think Reid needs to leave the Iggles and get his house in order? Yes. Do I think he shares some blame? Of course

But Whitlock's article is quite frankly absurd



Yeah, I cannot imagine anybody who would wish harm on someone
like that....:doh:

Gus Gilcrhist can go **** himself

With the way he commited to Tech, then de-commiting with the preimise of the 4/16 events, I hope he tears an ACL the first day of practice

[CowboysSaintsFan]

This article is just outrageous. How does this clown manage to bring race into an issue that has nothing to do with race?

His points are wrong too. The media has been killing Andy Reid relentlessly. They really need to back off, and let him deal with his family issues.

I hope Jason Whitlocks kids die from a heroin overdose, and then everybody can blame him.

Reid has proven to be one pompous, arrogant SOB recently.

Why do we have to feel sorry for him? Why are we making excuses for him?

Sorry-but he dug his own hole.

[boobiemiles]

[QUOTE=reggie_brown86]Please get AIDS.

QUOTE]
Wow did you just say that? "Get AIDS" wooow!!!!!!! That is totaly uncalled for. I understand that Reid can not control what goes on in his own house, but that was Michael Vicks defense as well, and they threw the book at him. I hope the people that say it is not about race wake up. I don't know what goes on in a person's head, but I know what I see. And what I see is a bunch of rules applying to one that does not apply to another. Dog fighting is criminal, but so is getting busted with drugs and guns, threats, and getting busted again. If Vick was held accountable for what went on in his home, why not Reid, at least from a league stand point. And talk about karma, thew Eagles never won a chip, and now I see why.

[sith lord]

Whitlock is dead on. I wonder what everyone, including the media, would say if this was a player who had two nephews living with them and were drug users/dealers and had guns in the house. Would they get the Andy Reid treatment? NO WAY! And for those who think that the judge was out of line in describing Reid's household, there's judges telling people the samething everyday in drug courts across America.

Commish Godell's own words: "You are responsible for what goes on in your house."

[OWUeagleMD]

I'm with Whitlock. This would have been covered differently if not for Reid's status and race. The only people who would disagree are blindly loyal Eagles fans or those who shy from admitting race to ever be an issue in any situation.

Awesome reference to the Barksdales from The Wire by Whitlock as well. Allow me to shamefully plug my favorite show for a second: if you don't watch The Wire yet, you've deprived yourself of America's greatest cultural product in 25 years. Do absolutely whatever is necessary to watch the first four seasons so you can watch the fifth season when it begins in January.

[sith lord]

I'm with Whitlock. This would have been covered differently if not for Reid's status and race. The only people who would disagree are blindly loyal Eagles fans or those who shy from admitting race to ever be an issue in any situation.

Awesome reference to the Barksdales from The Wire by Whitlock as well. Allow me to shamefully plug my favorite show for a second: if you don't watch The Wire yet, you've deprived yourself of America's greatest cultural product in 25 years. Do absolutely whatever is necessary to watch the first four seasons so you can watch the fifth season when it begins in January.

The Wire is the best show on TV. I bet that their ending blows the Soprano's ending out of the water.

[gixxer998]

This article is just outrageous. How does this clown manage to bring race into an issue that has nothing to do with race?

His points are wrong too. The media has been killing Andy Reid relentlessly. They really need to back off, and let him deal with his family issues.

I hope Jason Whitlocks kids die from a heroin overdose, and then everybody can blame him.

You truly are an idiot and have no common sense. I've been on the Eagle board for some time and I can assure you that if we posted your comments on the Eagle board the would condemn you just like everyone here is.

Take your worthless stupid comments back to your filth ridden city and leave here.

[HSW]

#1 Whitlock is an idiot.

#2 Even idiots get something right every now and then.

He was right in this case.

[OWUeagleMD]

The Wire is the best show on TV. I bet that their ending blows the Soprano's ending out of the water.

I liked The Soprano's ending for The Sopranos. If The Wire, which has never been abstract in that way, ended the final episode in that manner I would probably feel the way many people did about The Sopranos. I thought David Chase ended The Sopranos fairly; if David Simon goes that route with The Wire, I will be livid.

I'm rewatching Season 2 right now. All these years and I still haven't fully digested everything this show does. It's as complex as most great novels.

[SparkleMotion]

So is Reid supposed to kick them out of his house to go and die on the streets somewhere? I think it was Howie Long who said they lived at home because Reid was trying to save their lives. I happen to think that is probably true.

I'm sick of this media crap comparing one person's punishment to all other punishments remotely related. The Vick thing is completely different and you'd be a fool to not understand that. Vick has been implicated in the dogfighting, that goes beyond just having it on his property. If it came to light that Reid was involved in dealing or taking drugs I would switch sides immediately but I don't see that happening.

I still believe that family members of public figures are not public figures themselves and the media has no right to demand full access and press conferences from Reid about the situation.

As stupid as RBrown86 sounded at times in this thread, I have to agree with him.

[sith lord]

So is Reid supposed to kick them out of his house to go and die on the streets somewhere? I think it was Howie Long who said they lived at home because Reid was trying to save their lives. I happen to think that is probably true.

Short answer, YES! I's called tough love. There comes a time when you simply have to cut the strings. As you get older you'll realize that if someone doesn't want to be saved, they will not get saved.

[SparkleMotion]

It's called tough love. There comes a time when you simply have to cut the strings. As you get older you'll realize that if someone doesn't want to be saved, they will not get saved.

I agree with you in principle, but put yourself in Reid's shoes. If someone you love was screwing up big time and engaging in extremely dangerous behavior wouldn't you try to intervene? If you had a friend who always drove drunk even when you told him to stop would you just hand him his keys and say good luck?

The only thing Reid is guily of is bad parenting. No media figure has any right to call him names or demand he be punished for what his kids have done.

[jimster]

The Wire is the best show on TV. I bet that their ending blows the Soprano's ending out of the water.

man, I didn't know this is the final season. That's one of my favorite shows.


Reggie_Brown, you made some good points, but you don't need to throw insults in there to be heard.

I think the fact that Andy took leave during the off-season to address the issues at least shows he's aware there ARE issues and he's trying to do something about it.

I don't get the impression that Reid is the type of person that would willingly allow what's been going on.

I know some can make the argument that he is responsible for what goes on in his own house, but isn't it possible his boys did a good job at hiding things?

I don't think comparing this to Vick's situation is fair, because there are witnesses that saw Vick at dog fights and saw Vick's involvment other things.

Whitlock wants some sort of accountability from Reid, but as of now, there's no evidence that Reid did anything wrong other than allow himself to be taken advantage of by his kids. - I hope he can get everything worked out.

[MidwayMonster31]

Whitlock did throw race into this and I didn't think that was necessary. You would have to reach to throw race into this and that's what he did. This mess has officially erupted for Reid. If it was me, I would've resigned during summer, the reason Reid deserves to be called out is that he's doing nothing about this now.
Garrett almost killed someone while on heroin and an intervention has been long overdue, especially since he enjoyed being a drug dealer. Hopefully for Andy, it doesn't come down to having one of his sons get shoveled into a grave.

[sith lord]

I agree with you in principle, but put yourself in Reid's shoes. If someone you love was screwing up big time and engaging in extremely dangerous behavior wouldn't you try to intervene? If you had a friend who always drove drunk even when you told him to stop would you just hand him his keys and say good luck?

The only thing Reid is guily of is bad parenting. No media figure has any right to call him names or demand he be punished for what his kids have done.

No, I wouldn't give a drunk friend car keys. But that's totally different. If I were in Reid's shoes, I have to look out for the safety and well being of others who live in the house. Having drug dealers in your home could turn dangerous. It's not a safe environment at all. It might sound harsh, but Reid should have kicked them out.

[Henry]

I don't know if I'd kick my kids out of the house, but if I could afford to put my career on hold in order to concentrate on my family, I'd do it in a second.

I'm pretty sure Reid could afford to do that.

[sith lord]

I don't know if I'd kick my kids out of the house, but if I could afford to put my career on hold in order to concentrate on my family, I'd do it in a second.

I'm pretty sure Reid could afford to do that.

But these aren't kids. These are grown men who chose this path. It's hard, but you have to do what you have to do. If these guys are in it so deep that they have to carry guns, I don't care if they were my "kids", they'd be out of my house. I don't know them personally, but it seems to me that they don't want any help. Andy Reid had to know that this was a very bad situation and therefore, if he really wanted to help his sons, he should have taken this year off.

[Henry]

Oh I might kick them out of the house too.

I'm only saying I don't know for sure because I haven't really been following this case that closely. But if things with his sons had gotten to a point where they are being arrested, I'd be leaving my job if I could to deal with them full time. Adults or not.

[HSW]

I don't know if I'd kick my kids out of the house, but if I could afford to put my career on hold in order to concentrate on my family, I'd do it in a second.

I'm pretty sure Reid could afford to do that.

He has other children in the house to take care of. Those two ADULTS
have no reason at all to be around those kids with their drug doing/selling
lifestyle. At some point (long past) you got to cut the strings and look
out for the welfare of the ones who cannot do it for themselves. The
thought of all those drugs and weapons being around their other
young children is/should be the main concern. In all honesty Reid
should be in the news because he turned his sons into the police
before they could harm someone. I think it is a minor miracle that
nobody got seriously harmed by thier actions.

[Henry]

He has other children in the house to take care of. Those two ADULTS
have no reason at all to be around those kids with their drug doing/selling
lifestyle. At some point (long past) you got to cut the strings and look
out for the welfare of the ones who cannot do it for themselves. The
thought of all those drugs and weapons being around their other
young children is/should be the main concern. In all honesty Reid
should be in the news because he turned his sons into the police
before they could harm someone. I think it is a minor miracle that
nobody got seriously harmed by thier actions.

No problem with any of that. Read my follow-up post.

[SparkleMotion]

It's a tough situation for sure. There are alot of reasons to second-guess Andy Reid's actions or lack thereof when it came to dealing with his sons problems. I just don't think it's Whitlock's job to pile on with name-calling and bringing race into the issue. I don't know why he thinks his negative personal opinion of a public figure's private life should be the topic of an article. Did he just sit down and think hey, I don't think Andy Reid is suffering enough, let me call him out in my column.

[HSW]

It's a tough situation for sure. There are alot of reasons to second-guess Andy Reid's actions or lack thereof when it came to dealing with his sons problems. I just don't think it's Whitlock's job to pile on with name-calling and bringing race into the issue. I don't know why he thinks his negative personal opinion of a public figure's private life should be the topic of an article. Did he just sit down and think hey, I don't think Andy Reid is suffering enough, let me call him out in my column.

Fair is fair. When Whitlock writes his articles on black athletes almost
everyone cheers. Now he is doing the same thing to a white sports figure.
I could dig up the threads and the listing of "I agree" and "finally" postings
are miles long.;) FWIW I can't stand the man. I just find it funny
that a lot of the same people that loved his other articles hate this one.

[SparkleMotion]

I haven't even read any of his other articles...but it seems like he makes a living by making sweeping controversial generalizations about everyone associated with sports. There's a difference between athlete misbehavior and the private trouble of their families.

[Zazzaro703]

My dad is the chairman of Radiology at Prince William Hospital and some other hospitals around the NOVA area. Since i live under his roof, if my room was raided and they found illegal drugs in it or prescription drugs that were not prescribe to me, my father would lose his license to practice medicine even if he had not a clue in this world that i had them. I really dont see how Andy Reid isnt at fault for having illegal drugs in his house.

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

I don't feel like reading through all this garbage but after the first couple of posts I just want to say that any discussion regarding the "justice" system can most definitely include race in it.

For the record, I am white.

[BAFGA]

This article is absolutely correct.

Andy's status in our society got him this pass. For anyone else, the parents would certainly receive part of the blame.

Agree wholeheartedly. If this were Romeo Crennel or Marvin Lewis, they would be all over them. But with Andy Reid, they aren't.

[bubba9497]

what does Mrs. Reid do?


I couldn't hide a playboy from my mother, much less drugs and guns.

[dockeryfan]

Agree wholeheartedly. If this were Romeo Crennel or Marvin Lewis, they would be all over them. But with Andy Reid, they aren't.
Expand on this, because I want to hear your reasoning. You sound like Whitlock, and I want to make sure.

[Jerome McDougle]

This article is absolutely correct.

Andy's status in our society got him this pass. For anyone else, the parents would certainly receive part of the blame.

This is not the first time Whitlock has thrown race into his rants. There have been times when I have completely disagreed with him but this time he is spot on!

I find it hard to believe Reid is continuing to work and play absentee parent with younger chidlren still in the house. All of these events should have had him reevaluate his life style.

Your statement regarding Whitlock's kids is atrocious!:doh:

I agree with Whitlock. I honestly don't see how Reid is skating free on this, considering the drugs were found in HIS house. I don't care who they belonged to, they were in HIS house. Remember how everyone slammed Michael Irvin for claiming the junk found in his car belonged to a friend? How is this different?

And there was A LOT more junk found in Reid's home than in Irvin's car. I'm not trying to be an Irvin apologist here, I'm just calling a spade a spade.

Wow....some light at the end of the tunnel.

This is dead on.

This is truly the crux of the matter, and this is where I believe you're dead wrong. He IS responsible for the contents of HIS home. If illegal drugs (and in this case, TONS of them) are found in HIS home, he IS responsible. This is not about whether he's a good father. I couldn't care less what type of father he is. But he IS responsible for the contents of his home, just as I am responsible for the contents of my home.

Wow....you are clueless.

I guess the judge didn't have the FACTS in front of him.... :rolleyes:
The judge lambasted the Reid's home as a drug emporium.
The judge wonders aloud when the kids said the parents knew nothing.

The judge released Andy's kids to him and his wife under house arrest. NOW
you are responsible....and what happens illegal drugs were found again..the
judge states that the Reid's home is unfit for drug addicts.

Oh and by the way....Whitlock is dead on.

Who you should be supporting is the victims....like everyone these kids have victimized.

Oh, that's right their adults...still living under Mommy and Daddy's roof where they have the security that they can still participate in the drug dealing and
drug using habits they have had for 5+years.

The guns/drugs were found in ANDY REID's VEHICLES AND HOUSE...NUMEROUS
TIMES.

That's ok the TAXPAYERS WILL FOOT THE BILL NOW.

You need to STFU.

Whitlocks point is clear and he is dead on.....The judge stated they are drugs and guns all over the house, the judge lambasted the kids and the family. The judge who deals with this crap daily wondered aloud about the family not knowing.....it sounds as if the Reid's were protecting the kids....they were running a "drug emporium."

Whether you want to believe it or not....there is a double standard, it's reality.

If this is on t.v., with a family in Southeast D.C....... :rolleyes:

What else could he do? Kick them out of his house.

They will only get help, if they want it. Exactly. Addicts will likely only get help when there is no other option. Enabling these two men to stay in your home w/o their person and belongings being searched was only enabling them to continue their illicit ways.

Sounds like this has been an ongoing issue that Reid has tried to address with his adult children. However, he has 3 other children <18yrs at home. He has an obligation to keep the "lifestyle" of the older children away from the younger kids. I don't know the particulars of the situation but it sounds like a little "tougher love" is needed to save his older sons and prevent the younger kids from following the same path.



Get that green **** outta here.

Anyway, considering he's coaching in a city full of bigots doesn't leave me surprised that he isn't feeling more heat.

Reid does need to take leave from the team and straight out that family situation somewhat.

Reid has proven to be one pompous, arrogant SOB recently.

Why do we have to feel sorry for him? Why are we making excuses for him?

Sorry-but he dug his own hole.

QUOTE]
Wow did you just say that? "Get AIDS" wooow!!!!!!! That is totaly uncalled for. I understand that Reid can not control what goes on in his own house, but that was Michael Vicks defense as well, and they threw the book at him. I hope the people that say it is not about race wake up. I don't know what goes on in a person's head, but I know what I see. And what I see is a bunch of rules applying to one that does not apply to another. Dog fighting is criminal, but so is getting busted with drugs and guns, threats, and getting busted again. If Vick was held accountable for what went on in his home, why not Reid, at least from a league stand point. And talk about karma, thew Eagles never won a chip, and now I see why.[/QUOTE]

Whitlock is dead on. I wonder what everyone, including the media, would say if this was a player who had two nephews living with them and were drug users/dealers and had guns in the house. Would they get the Andy Reid treatment? NO WAY! And for those who think that the judge was out of line in describing Reid's household, there's judges telling people the samething everyday in drug courts across America.

Commish Godell's own words: "You are responsible for what goes on in your house."

I'm with Whitlock. This would have been covered differently if not for Reid's status and race. The only people who would disagree are blindly loyal Eagles fans or those who shy from admitting race to ever be an issue in any situation.

Awesome reference to the Barksdales from The Wire by Whitlock as well. Allow me to shamefully plug my favorite show for a second: if you don't watch The Wire yet, you've deprived yourself of America's greatest cultural product in 25 years. Do absolutely whatever is necessary to watch the first four seasons so you can watch the fifth season when it begins in January.

You truly are an idiot and have no common sense. I've been on the Eagle board for some time and I can assure you that if we posted your comments on the Eagle board the would condemn you just like everyone here is.

Take your worthless stupid comments back to your filth ridden city and leave here.

#1 Whitlock is an idiot.

#2 Even idiots get something right every now and then.

He was right in this case.

KARMA

[jpgirth]

Wow...

You are really pathetic....

Self Respect :doh:

[dockeryfan]

QUOTE]I'm an idiot
shoot yourself in the femoral artery